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Nokia's biggest Windows Phone yet sees its unveil bumped a month, but that shouldn't impact its Nov. sale date

Like many rumors, reports that Microsoft Corp. (MSFT) subsidiary Nokia Oyj. (HEX:NOK1V) would unveil its upcoming Windows Phone 8 GDR3 six-inch phablet at a Sept. 26 press event in New York City proved premature.  Nokia reportedly opted to bump that unveil date till Oct. 22, according to WPCentral and the @evleaks Twitter account.

While fans and those curious will be disappointed at the wait, the later unveil actually makes more sense as the device itself doesn't start shipping (reportedly) until November.

Meanwhile image leaks continue.  A user of Chinese microblogging site Weibo posted an image purportedly of a Lumia 1520.  Mysteriously, though, the device is branded with a Verizon Wireless logo.  AT&T, Inc. (T) previously had been rumored to get the device first.  But it now looks like Verizon Wireless -- now a sole subsidiary of Verizon Communications Inc. (VZ) -- may get a piece of the action as well.

Lumia 1520
A Lumia 1520 leaked shot shows Verizon Wireless branding. [Image Source: Weibo]

A second leak, from a Chinese telecommunications regulatory employee testing the upcoming device (as noted by CtechCN), reveals/confirms the following spec for the device:
  • quad-core Qualcomm Inc. (QCOM) Snapdragon 800 SoC
  • on-die LTE (via Snapdragon chip)
  • 2GB of RAM
  • 32GB of storage
  • 20-megapixel rear-facing camera
  • 6-inch 1080p (1920x1080 pixel) display
Pictures of the device (above) also were leaked by the employee.

Nokia Lumia 1520 Nokia Lumia 1520
More reported Lumia 1520 shots [Image Source: CTechCN]

Sales of the Lumia Windows Phone started slow, but have been picking up steam of late.  Nokia's colorful designs and strong camera hardware, paired with Microsoft's distinctive new UI propelled Windows Phone to be the fastest growing platform in Q2 2013.

That fresh success has rivals taking note.  For example Apple, Inc. (AAPL) moved away from its typical industrial designs, releasing the iPhone 5C, which took design cues from the iPod Nano (painted metal) and the colorful Lumia.  It could be argued that the iPhone 5C borrows most strongly from the Lumia's design cues, given its plastic body (versus the metal in the iPod Nanos).  Analysts were not impressed by that effort from Apple, which some decried as a "me-too" product.

Sources: CtechCN, Weibo, WPCentral, @evleaks on Twitter



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Very Nice
By Shig on 9/16/2013 4:31:04 PM , Rating: 3
The live tiles will look really good on this big screen. This phone beats the Galaxy Note 3 hands down. Samsung needed some competition to beat 'em in the phablet area. The only area where it lacks a tiny bit is 2GB of ram vs. 3GB, but the camera makes up for it.




RE: Very Nice
By retrospooty on 9/16/2013 4:42:00 PM , Rating: 2
"This phone beats the Galaxy Note 3 hands down. "

It depends on your perspective and what you want from a phone, that part is all subjective... One thing that it will not beat it in is sales. Not by a longshot.


RE: Very Nice
By Shig on 9/16/2013 4:47:31 PM , Rating: 2
Well that's probably true, but before this they basically had no competitors. (Unless you count Huwei and the other China guys, and I've never even seen one of those).

Nokia/Microsoft can at least put up a fight.


RE: Very Nice
By retrospooty on 9/16/2013 4:59:48 PM , Rating: 5
No doubt, they are good phones, just like Suraface is a good convertable device... The problem is not many people want either.


RE: Very Nice
By GulWestfale on 9/16/2013 5:39:21 PM , Rating: 2
the specs look nice, and the design is even decent, for a nokia. but i really don't like the interface. i currently use a note 1, and the only thing i'm missing is more RAM, so i think at some point i will simply get a note 2 or 3.


RE: Very Nice
By retrospooty on 9/16/2013 6:07:00 PM , Rating: 3
I hear ya. I just got a new LGG2 Friday and am loving it. In order to go to a different platform it has to be better than where I am now. I hope that comes someday, but its not WP8, not by a longshot.


RE: Very Nice
By Samus on 9/17/2013 1:06:07 PM , Rating: 2
You can't make a pig into a race horse, but with enough money and resources, you can make a mighty fast pig.


RE: Very Nice
By borismkv on 9/16/2013 5:04:20 PM , Rating: 2
I want my phone to be a phone. Windows 8 is a *fantastic* Phone OS for people who want their phone to be *gasp* a phone.


RE: Very Nice
By Reclaimer77 on 9/16/2013 5:21:42 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I want my phone to be a phone.


What does that even mean? Everyone wants their phone to be a phone. And everyone makes calls with their phone. Pretty sure smartphones are pretty good at being a *gasp* phone these days.

Unless you still have an iPhone 4 and 'hold it wrong' heh.


RE: Very Nice
By CaedenV on 9/16/2013 9:05:00 PM , Rating: 3
You would be surprised. While a lot of the flagship smartphones make phenomenal phone calls, there are still a ton of low and mid-range devices that are jacks of all trades, and masters of none. This is in fact one of the many reasons HTC has so many issues. As a phone, they just sucked, even if they were mildly competent in other areas. Now they have fixed many of their issues (including the phone call issues by 'accidentally' stealing tech from Nokia), but it seems to be too little too late even though the HTC One may be one of the best devices of the year.


RE: Very Nice
By retrospooty on 9/16/2013 5:23:59 PM , Rating: 2
"Windows 8 is a *fantastic* Phone OS for people who want their phone to be *gasp* a phone."

That is the simplest most basic functionality that exists in any smartphone. They all do that and have since the 1st Treo and Blackberry. Most people want alot more, thus the birth of the smartphone.


RE: Very Nice
By Reclaimer77 on 9/16/2013 5:29:23 PM , Rating: 2
Not sure why anyone would buy a phablet JUST to make phone calls. Which is why I asked him to clarify his statement.


RE: Very Nice
By retrospooty on 9/16/2013 5:37:18 PM , Rating: 2
Now that I re-look at it, I think he is trying to say WP8 has better phone functionality than the others? Maybe?

I dont know. Like I said, the phone part is simple. Dial and send + a few bells and whistles.


RE: Very Nice
By seamonkey79 on 9/16/2013 6:16:28 PM , Rating: 3
I looked at my friend's WP8 phone and it knew who I wanted to call, even though they're not known by my friend, so it added them and dialed.

Could be that's what he means, because my Android never did that for me.


RE: Very Nice
By retrospooty on 9/16/2013 6:19:34 PM , Rating: 2
I don't see what you mean. Where did it get the #'s from if you didn't enter them, and they weren't already on that phone?


RE: Very Nice
By ClownPuncher on 9/16/2013 6:27:11 PM , Rating: 2
NSA app.


RE: Very Nice
By retrospooty on 9/16/2013 6:34:23 PM , Rating: 2
I thought that, but NSA takey, no givey LOL.


RE: Very Nice
By BSMonitor on 9/16/2013 5:09:10 PM , Rating: 3
And in this case, subjectivity being "it's not a Google device"... Thereby retro must object.


RE: Very Nice
By retrospooty on 9/16/2013 5:26:01 PM , Rating: 2
Once again, you are way off the mark. I didn't say it wasn't a good phone, in fact I said it was good. What I am saying is WP phones aren't selling well. IOS and Android are. Try to stay on topic dood. It just makes you look nutz when you cant follow a simple topic.


RE: Very Nice
By Mint on 9/16/2013 4:48:25 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
This phone beats the Galaxy Note 3 hands down

Except, AFAIK, there's no stylus. The Note 2 will remain king of phablets until someone else adds an inductive stylus.


RE: Very Nice
By Shig on 9/16/2013 4:51:11 PM , Rating: 2
The stylus is cool but I think the camera is a better selling point than the pen. That's just my opinion, we shall see.


RE: Very Nice
By Reclaimer77 on 9/16/2013 5:12:00 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
The stylus is cool but I think the camera is a better selling point than the pen. That's just my opinion, we shall see.


And just because it's Nokia it automatically has a better camera?

The Note 3 has a great camera by all accounts. It also can record 4k resolution videos! Which is stupidly crazily awesome that they bothered to even include a camera that good in a phone.

By all accounts this looks to be just a bigger phone. They didn't go the extra mile like Samsung has in giving you a REASON to own a "phablet".

Samsung even customized the Android UI to display two apps at once, making better use of the big screen. Microsoft should bring that feature from the Surface to Windows Phone at least, if not just for this phone.


RE: Very Nice
By Shig on 9/16/2013 5:39:25 PM , Rating: 2
I thought this phone had the 'super-pixels', that tech that lets you zoom in and crop live pictures. Samsung doesn't have that yet.


RE: Very Nice
By Mint on 9/16/2013 11:24:45 PM , Rating: 3
It's very likely that the 1520 has a better camera, but it's not the 1020 camera, so the difference isn't going to be huge.

But you're right. Things like multi-window and the stylus are examples of the extra mile that Samsung went to with the Note 3.

I hope one day Nokia does indeed make a real Note competitor.


RE: Very Nice
By zero2dash on 9/16/2013 4:50:41 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
This phone beats the Galaxy Note 3 hands down.


Unless the S-Pen (or a derivative thereof) is invisible - no, it doesn't.

There's more to the Note line than a big screen.


RE: Very Nice
By corduroygt on 9/16/13, Rating: 0
RE: Very Nice
By Shig on 9/16/2013 5:08:20 PM , Rating: 2
Good point, Microsoft is going to have to open that cash vault to entice developers.


RE: Very Nice
By borismkv on 9/16/2013 5:08:28 PM , Rating: 2
That's because it has its own built in system for file sharing. It's called Skydrive.


RE: Very Nice
By corduroygt on 10/8/2013 12:59:09 PM , Rating: 2
And Apple has iCloud and Google has Google Drive. They still have a Dropbox app.


RE: Very Nice
By jimbojimbo on 9/16/2013 5:49:31 PM , Rating: 2
One of the Note line's strongest feature is the SPen. Something this big could make good use of one.


RE: Very Nice
By Argon18 on 9/16/13, Rating: -1
RE: Very Nice
By PorreKaj on 9/17/2013 7:24:42 AM , Rating: 1
There are people out there, like me, where i don't care about the amount of apps available.

My next Lumia will be bought only because of Messages hub (all protocols in on thread, and still showing history when switching protocol, and Peoples hub (Rooms in particular)


RE: Very Nice
By ritualm on 9/17/2013 8:28:12 PM , Rating: 1
That's like saying how many WWII sonar systems were good enough in that they can detect torpedoes fired from ships 5.5 nautical miles away - because the effective range of most torpedoes of the time was ~5.5 nmi. Their designers didn't think someone could create torpedoes that go double or triple that distance and still fatally hit their targets.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_93_torpedo

Numbers don't mean anything in war when you can't use them. Same thing with mobile OS ecosystems.


RE: Very Nice
By KentState on 9/16/2013 7:33:51 PM , Rating: 2
What about the lack of a built-in stylus and supporting software? There is a difference between just being a large phone and a note taking phone.


RE: Very Nice
By CaedenV on 9/16/2013 9:00:42 PM , Rating: 2
I would not say that it would beat the Note 3 "hands down". The thing that makes a Phablet useful is the software suite attached to it which makes it as useful as a light netbook or other small form factor computer. As much as I love WP8 (and I really do love it!), this device will not have any such software enhancements. There may be updates down the road, and there may be apps to be released to help fill the void, but at the end of the day it is an akwardly large Windows Phone, rather than a phone with tablet features.

All that said, I really think that I want one. A nice Ram and camera upgrade, amoled screen, expandable memory... this is going to be a great device to be sure, and if my contract was up then I would jump all over it simply because I need something just a bit bigger than my Lumia 920 for taking notes at work and such. All the same I would still rather it have a slightly smaller screen (5-5.5"), and I would really like to see some mods or improvements to programs like OneNote and other office apps so that they act more like their desktop counterparts rather than the sad mobile knock-offs that they are. So maybe a refresh device next year will be the one that I will jump on.

I just hope that others in my 2 year contract boat do not give them reason to discontinue the line before then.


RE: Very Nice
By W00dmann on 9/17/2013 3:13:40 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
This phone beats the Galaxy Note 3 hands down.


How do you figure that? Apart from screen size, the specs don't even match the GN 3.


One bad thing
By Mitch101 on 9/16/2013 3:55:17 PM , Rating: 2
I love Nokia and Windows Phone but they are going to have to recall their commercial making fun of the enormous phone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1gUZWiVLLQ




RE: One bad thing
By ClownPuncher on 9/16/2013 4:01:40 PM , Rating: 2
I was really hoping this would be between 4-5". Too big for me, but nice specs nonetheless.


RE: One bad thing
By Belard on 9/16/2013 4:29:32 PM , Rating: 2
They do... its called the Nokia Lumia 1020. Its a 4.5" screen with 1280 x 768.


RE: One bad thing
By ClownPuncher on 9/16/2013 6:04:24 PM , Rating: 2
That's not what I'm asking for. I'm asking for the specs on the 1520 to be in the same size phone as the 1020.


RE: One bad thing
By CaedenV on 9/16/2013 9:34:12 PM , Rating: 2
Just wait for the 940 or whatever the refresh will be of the 900 series. I am sure we will see similar quad core + 2GB of ram on it. It will probably not have the expandable storage though... but maybe a 64GB variant will be available to make expanded storage unnecessary? Also unlikely to have a 20MP shooter, but 8MP is plenty of pixels so long as we continue to get better pixels and optics with the refresh.


RE: One bad thing
By Mint on 9/16/2013 4:44:53 PM , Rating: 2
Nokia isn't mocking large displays in that ad. They're mocking how iSheep hate (and are maybe jealous of) larger phones. It's a observational humor of iOS and Android fans arguing with each other online, and you don't have to look any further than DT to see it in action.

The Lumia 920 isn't a small phone. It's as heavy as a Note and as large as 5" phones.


What stupidity?!
By Belard on 9/16/13, Rating: 0
RE: What stupidity?!
By jimbojimbo on 9/16/2013 5:53:56 PM , Rating: 2
All sorts of things have come in different colors before. It's purely smartphones we're talking about right now. Even then though some have been released in different colors as well so it's not like it's new.


RE: What stupidity?!
By StevoLincolnite on 9/17/2013 8:16:19 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
How about Nokia has borrowed design cues from Apple who made multi-colored iMacs (Blue, Red, orange, green, gray, white) or the iPods from almost 10 years ago....


Who also copied Nintendo's coloured cases for the Nintendo 64 years prior.


hi
By aamori on 9/17/2013 2:34:59 PM , Rating: 2
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Looks nice, but for how much?
By stm1185 on 9/16/2013 6:05:02 PM , Rating: 1
Are they going to get the insane prices down on these phones?

I am not buying a 6 inch phablet for $700 when I could probably buy a Nexus 7 and the Nexus 5 when it's released for the same cost.

Thats dumb. Really really dumb.

Microsoft, release it at tablet pricing!




hi
By dsosce on 9/16/13, Rating: -1
Anything with Metro UI will fail
By MrBungle123 on 9/16/13, Rating: -1
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