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Nissan Leaf  (Source: Nissan Motors)
But Nissan makes it clear that "emissions-free" is their ultimate goal

Nissan is in the midst of working on expanding the environmental benefits of some of its vehicles by using pure electric batteries with no direct emissions – its efforts appear to be paying off. Of approximately 19,000 pre-orders and rising, 14,000 are from the United States, and 90 percent are conquest sales, meaning that Nissan has "stolen" potential sales or swayed loyal buyers from other auto brands. The automaker's conquest is "almost without comparison" and "few vehicles can capably convert loyal buyers over with this level of authority."

Even though the first year production of the Leaf is already sold out, not everyone is on the pure electric bandwagon, which is leading Nissan to consider developing extended range vehicles in the future. 

EV skeptics have stressed concerns about electric vehicles' range and ability to be driven on long road trips. While there is a growing infrastructure in certain cities around the world, and EV's like the Nissan Leaf can travel up to 100 miles with a full charge (under optimum conditions), Nissan's Senior Vice President for Sales and Marketing, Brian Carolin, mentioned that "extended range vehicles could eventually join the pure battery electric Leaf in the marque's stable." 

The Chevrolet Volt, another one of the featured EV's of 2011, runs 40 miles on an emission-free electric charge, but then travels hundreds of additional miles on a range-extending gas generator via a single tank of gas. At the Automotive News Green Car Conference last week, General Motors' Director of Hybrid and Electric Vehicle Development Micky Bly noted that his company's approach to EV's was "to make sure they could be primary vehicles" and that "the Volt is intended to be a vehicle that can operate emissions-free most of the time yet still be able to handle road trips when needed." Nissan may develop a similar range-extending model like this in order to supply vehicles that the masses will be able to feel comfortable with. 

Those who have submitted pre-orders for the Leaf have paid a refundable $99 at this point, but some believe as more money and risk is involved closer to purchase/lease time, the numbers of these pre-orders may change. 



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so what?
By mdogs444 on 6/24/2010 8:47:49 AM , Rating: 3
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meaning that Nissan has "stolen" potential sales or swayed loyal buyers from other auto brands

So people in California are getting rid of their Prius for a Nissan EV. Big whoop.




RE: so what?
By quiksilvr on 6/24/2010 8:58:15 AM , Rating: 3
Hey, at least the LEAF looks better (and that's not saying much)...


RE: so what?
By mdogs444 on 6/24/2010 9:37:29 AM , Rating: 3
I don't think I could bring myself to even look at either of them long enough to make a distinction of what looks "better". They both look stupid, and just "how" stupid makes no difference to me.

:)


RE: so what?
By Hiawa23 on 6/24/2010 9:22:26 AM , Rating: 3
Not that I plan on buying one of these, & maybe I am looking at this the wrong way but if I was interested in these vehicles, seems like the Volt would be it, as it goes 40 on a charge then goes hundreds more via the gas recharge, price maybe very high upon release but I expect that to come down. That to me seems better than a pure electric vehicle as the infrastructure doesn't seem to be in place for pure electric vehicles yet.


RE: so what?
By monkeyman1140 on 6/24/10, Rating: 0
RE: so what?
By lelias2k on 6/24/2010 2:41:47 PM , Rating: 2
lol... is that a real answer or just a joke?


What is the most economical
By SoulBlighter on 6/24/2010 9:56:04 AM , Rating: 2
Here is what I have been thinking since past few weeks. Which is the most economical of all.
1. Hybrid
2. Pure EV
3. Pure EV with on board generator (Volt)

We all aware Hybrid is proven technology around and is cheap enough for many to go for it. But any future investments in this technology can bring better fruit for our current Hybrid vehicles?
Pure EV are always lagged with innovative technology to boost their range. Despite of major population doesn't need more than 100 miles on daily commute, but people like me who are trips once a while (2-3 times a year) to other cities would rather like Hybrid.
Now the EV with on board generator. I believe this can be made better by making more efficient generators, we will not require expensive and heavy transmission like regular Hybrid cars. To me Volt is the future and answer to many problems we currently facing till we have better technology to store energy but the price is big issue for people like me who can not afford to buy a car worth over 25k.




RE: What is the most economical
By mdogs444 on 6/24/10, Rating: 0
RE: What is the most economical
By namechamps on 6/24/10, Rating: 0
RE: What is the most economical
By mdogs444 on 6/24/2010 11:32:48 AM , Rating: 2
Yes, with with a 1 person household, 2 vehicles would be a waste of money. If you already own a car, truck, or suv...then spending $20,000-$30,000 on a car to charge by electricity instead of spending $4-5 on gas doesn't make any sense.


RE: What is the most economical
By Hiawa23 on 6/24/2010 12:58:48 PM , Rating: 2
I don't "need" 2 vehicles capable of going 300+ miles on a tank

I agree, I have 2 cars, the 97Civic gets 300mi per tank @ 223,000 miles, & the 06 Lancer Ralliart gets 270mi per tank @ 58,000, my gas bill is about $150/month, I drive 54miles a day. With the cost of these vehicles compared to what a gasoline vehicle cost & given the bad economy do these car companies really expect these vehicles to fly off the show floors, as it seems that the prices are out of most consumers range? Am I wrong?


By monkeyman1140 on 6/24/2010 12:26:06 PM , Rating: 2
Well every consumer is different. Even though I'm a commuter I only commute about 56 miles a day total, well within the 100 mile range limit of an EV. Others may need more.

The leaf is taking advantage of a "want", not a need. People WANT an electric car, some want it to show how eco-friendly they are, others think its "cool", others like the technology, and some are just curious and want to spend cash on something new.

You NEED toilet paper, you WANT a new car.


RE: What is the most economical
By lelias2k on 6/24/10, Rating: 0
Thank you for this public service, Nissan
By klstay on 6/24/2010 9:03:28 AM , Rating: 2
It appears they have managed to sell this thing to all of those people who were the ones born in their minute.

Also, I find the "emission free" goal amusing. Unless Scotty is up there beaming down all that electricity from the Enterprise "for free" then it is coming from somewhere!

And unless he is also beaming down the batteries magically transformed from "human emissions" in the replicator they have to be manufactured somewhere from something using (you guessed it) electricity which is again NOT appearing out of thin air.

Finally, unless our dear Mr. Scott is also willing to beam all the used batteries into the sun for us (again for FREE) what do folks plan on doing with all those things?

I switched to CNG almost 4 years ago and chuckle to myself every time I see some chowderhead in an EV Hybrid. Lotteries aside, these things and their pure electric brethren are the biggest scam ever to have been foisted on the mathematically challenged sector of the public.




By Nutzo on 6/24/2010 10:45:43 AM , Rating: 1
The Battery tech STILL has a long way to go. We need about 10x the range (350-400 miles per charge) and 1/2 the cost to become competative with gas powered cars.

With current Tech, the volt is a better solution, but I think they could get away with a lower power generator. The current design generates enough power to drive 80+ mph, with a fully loaded car, until the gas tank is empty.

What they need is a extended range switch that when enabled will keep the battery at a full charge, instead of only charging when the battery is almost depleated. This would extend the range when driving at freeway speeds, even if the lower powered generator could not keep up at freeway speeds. You might eventually have to pull over and take a break (like stop for lunch) when the generator finishes charging the battery, but at least you wouldn't be looking for a plug.



By monkeyman1140 on 6/24/2010 12:22:46 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah we should have all switched to CNG decades ago, but the power of the oil industry precluded that from happening.


I'm so glad
By bill4 on 6/24/2010 12:14:33 PM , Rating: 2
Mick wasn't enough so now we have "Tiffany Kaiser" posting about whatever liberal crap was thrust on us by law in the name of environmentalism and jack booted force.

If there was anything resembling a free market, electric cars would never exist. They exist because liberals like Tiffany Kaiser took out their guns (in essence, aka laws, aka the threat of force), and told us we have to buy them.




RE: I'm so glad
By monkeyman1140 on 6/24/2010 12:28:08 PM , Rating: 2
Electric cars have been around nearly as long as gasoline engine cars, long before this environmentalist liberal conspiracy was cooked up as you claim.

Doofus.


Looks better
By Mattia on 6/24/2010 5:42:35 PM , Rating: 2
Folks,

Looks better? Volt? Hybrid? Conspiracy?

How does it look to you an oil spill the size of an "ocean"?
How does it look to you an endless war in the middle east?
How does it look to you a soldier incapable of speaking because of trauma?
How does it look to you a child with no father or mother because of an invasion?
How does it look to you a corporation that will treat your country as a latrine?
How does it look to you to leave a plagued earth to future generations?
How does it look to you the dementia of some political man dirty in oil, in speech, in soul, in thinking?
How does it look to you to pay for something that the sun CAN give you for free?
How does it look to you this stale diatribe about energy when energy is right in the sky to be harvested?

Plug in? Plug in your brain. Most of all plug in your heart!

RELeaf! Now!

Mattia.




Electric Cars
By monkeyman1140 on 6/24/2010 12:17:11 PM , Rating: 1
Now we know why Chevrolet is bankrupt, and Nissan isn't.

Nissan had the vision to actually produce a real electric car, not just make a car to pretend to the government that they were a "green" company. (EV-1)




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