backtop

Print E-mail del.icio.us 66 comment(s) - last by 2munds.. on Jun 7 at 5:32 PM
The Nintendo Wii easily outsold the Microsoft Xbox 360 and Sony PlayStation 3 last month in Japan

Tokyo-based research firm Enterbrain Inc. publicly announced the Nintendo Wii game console and DS handheld portable continued their domination of Sony last month.  April sales figures indicated the Wii outsold the PlayStation 3 4-to-1 in Japan, and the sales gap widened last month, with the Wii outselling the PS3 5-to-1.  Nintendo sold 251,794 Wii game consoles in Japan last month.

Enterbrain, which publishes the Famitsu video game magazine, implies Sony only sold 50,000 PS3 units in Japan, the latest string of disappointments for Sony.  Furthermore, analysts predict Nintendo will continue to see strong sales figures in Japan.

Microsoft quietly sold 11,082 Xbox 360 game units last month.

Although the PlayStation 3 has more powerful gaming hardware, the Wii's lower price and innovative game play continues to attract gamers.

Enterbrain research revealed a similar trend with the DS handheld, with the Nintendo product outselling the PSP -- Nintendo sold 620,670 DS units, compared to only 123,673 PSPs sold.

In a published interview last month, George Harrison, Nintendo of America Senior Vice President of Marketing and Corporate Communication, boldly predicted up to 35 million Wii consoles will be sold on the U.S. market by 2012.  

Comments     Threshold


This article is over a month old, voting and posting comments is disabled
what games are there to play on it?
By bubbacub616 on 6/5/2007 7:23:37 AM , Rating: 4
other than wii sports (which is great fun if you have friends around and have lots of controllers) what is there worth playing?

IMO zelda is pretty naff (to be honest i've only played zelda on the n64 and died of boredom 2/3 through)

what else is there? i'm not being anti-wii I am wondering what other dailytechers actually play on it.

Bubba




RE: what games are there to play on it?
By blueflash2o on 6/5/2007 7:49:53 AM , Rating: 2
In my collection I have to say the best games are either excite truck or red steel other than wii sports. Once you get used to the controls excite truck is awesome and i couldn't stop playing it fortunately i didn't buy red steel and excite truck at the same time because red steel is just as good.


By dome1234 on 6/5/2007 9:41:35 AM , Rating: 2
wii-controller-game-wise, wii sports. Excite truck's decent but redsteel's not good.

zelda and mario. The usual suspects.


RE: what games are there to play on it?
By h0kiez on 6/5/2007 11:41:24 AM , Rating: 2
Interesting you say that...both were pretty much panned in reviews (Red Steel moreso than Excit Truck). I agree with the sentiment...I'm all for the Wii's novelty and I hope it does well, but I'm waiting for a few killer aps before I get one. Maybe Metroid will do it.


RE: what games are there to play on it?
By therealnickdanger on 6/5/2007 1:36:11 PM , Rating: 4
Game reviews are like buttholes: everyone's got one and it smells a bit different than yours. It's so subjective. Reviews are often too harsh on games that aren't trying to be the next Game Of The Year blockbuster. I know some people that won't even RENT a game if their favorite magazine/website gives it less than 8 out of 10.

Reviews are the last place I go to for info on a game. Hands-on is the only way to know. I would have missed a lot of gems over the decades if I paid attention only to reviews.


By encryptkeeper on 6/5/2007 4:14:01 PM , Rating: 2
They're a good reference for the games you may never have heard of though. Take Eternal Darkness for example. There's a definite sleeper hit, and it was received extremely well by critics. Unfortunately, I have to usually agree with places like www.ign.com's reviews. The thing you have to remember is that a game may get a score of 5 or 6 out of ten, but finding it fun to play may still result in your thinking, "wow this game is something that very few people would like". Take Etrian Odyssey for example, or Majora's Mask. Typically the ratings on websites that are obviously not heavily biased towards one manufacturer (like Gamespot being VERY pro-Microsoft) are pretty accurate for how the general gaming population will receive them.


By h0kiez on 6/5/2007 11:41:28 AM , Rating: 1
Interesting you say that...both were pretty much panned in reviews (Red Steel moreso than Excit Truck). I agree with the sentiment...I'm all for the Wii's novelty and I hope it does well, but I'm waiting for a few killer apps before I get one. Maybe Metroid will do it.


RE: what games are there to play on it?
By spwrozek on 6/5/2007 8:32:42 AM , Rating: 2
Super Paper Mario is fantastic. My favorite game so far.

Mario party 8 just came out and I like what I have played so far.

Red steel was pretty decent minus some control issues.

Zelda is really good.

Metal Slug is also a great buy for some sweet arcade/wii action.


By Mitch101 on 6/5/2007 1:32:44 PM , Rating: 3
Ditto on Super Paper Mario, Mario party 8, Wario is good I hear, and Zelda. Havent tried the others yet. EA sports linup is coming and Need for Speed is available.

Lets face it the majority of us had PS2 and some had X-Box. There are also a lot of Gamecube games which were Nintendo exclusive worth playing and they are super cheap to buy. Pikmin anyone?

WII COOL STUFF you dont hear about.
Play Gamecube games and since you probably had a PS2 this is a nice treat.

You can create your own Mii. Sounds silly but its a playschool like representation of yourself which is funny and adds a level of fun to some of the games. Funny when boxing or playing tennis. I have fun making my friends and family in the game. I hope they can add pets.

I hear a copy of your Mii is stored in the remote control so if you go to a friends house with your remote your Mii can go with. (Havent verified it)

SD card slot instead of proprietary overprices memory cards. You can also do some picture stuff and upload them and share with friends through web links.

Lose weight - A lot of people with Wii's have lost weight. I know I have worked up a sweat boxing.

Its $250.00 but I would spend another $50.00 for Wii-Play where you get a second controller. Expect to spend $300.00.

There is sound in the Wii controller.

I think you can game together with friend somehow and share Mii's. Ive only had it for a short time so I cant tell you all the features yet as I only have one friend with a Wii so far and he just sent me his Wii console ID. Would be cool to do boxing with him online.

The Wii-Remote is really something that you really have to try to enjoy. I suggest adjusting the sensitivity up and do like they recommend and stand 3-10 ft from the sensor for maximum effectiveness.

There is nothing like watching your girlfriend/wife doing the weird physical things you need to with the Wii. With Baseball I tricked my wife into running around the room after the player hit the ball. Cheap Baywatch but everyone falls for it. Dance Dance revolution is funny but watching others do this stuff is sometimes hillarious.

ITS FREAKIN FUN!!!


By RamarC on 6/5/2007 8:52:34 AM , Rating: 4
Remember that there are LOTS of japanese market only games. Supposedly, there are 4 times more japanese language games than english language games.


RE: what games are there to play on it?
By RandomFool on 6/5/2007 11:08:54 AM , Rating: 3
Warioware and Rayman: Raving Rabbids are great games too.

If I ever get my Wii back I plan on picking up Super Paper, Mario Party 8 and Wii Play too.


By aGreenAgent on 6/5/2007 12:18:15 PM , Rating: 2
Wario Ware and Mario Party are both awesome with friends!

Wario Ware gets me drunk every time, and I just got Mario Party so I haven't found out how drunk that drinking game will get you.


RE: what games are there to play on it?
By AndreasM on 6/5/2007 1:11:53 PM , Rating: 1
Personally, I like Elebits, Kororinpa and to some degree Cooking Mama, which is too easy but reminds me of Harvest Moon for the SNES. I will be getting Super Paper Mario as soon as it is released in Europe.

I have Zelda, but it is far inferior to the previous Zelda game I had which was the SNES version. I played Twilight Princess up to a point where you're supposed to protect a caravan from raiders and birds dropping bombs. I spent 2(!) hours trying to hit the birds with a bow before eventually succeeding in getting past that spot. The inherent randomness in the IR tech used to pinpoint the location you're aiming at made shooting the bow at fast moving targets almost impossible. This incident made me so disgusted that I didn't touch the console for 4 months, and started playing with it again only recently.


RE: what games are there to play on it?
By tedrodai on 6/5/2007 2:33:33 PM , Rating: 2
I got to the snow area in Twilight Princess before finally deciding to just turn off the remote pointer in options. I'm enjoying the game much more using the nunchuck analog stick to aim, sadly. Wii Sports and Wii Play (only other 2 games I have atm) make MUCH better use of the controller.


By AndreasM on 6/5/2007 6:17:45 PM , Rating: 2
That's a good tip, I'll have to try it out.


By encryptkeeper on 6/5/2007 1:24:12 PM , Rating: 2
Nintendo's handheld DS player outsold Sony's PlayStation Portable five to one in May, Enterbrain said. The company sold 620,670 of the touch-screen players, compared with 123,673 PSPs.

Clearly, raw power isn't everything. Sorry fanboys.


By Samus on 6/5/2007 3:20:24 PM , Rating: 2
Mario Soccer and Mario Party 8 are amazingly good games. My dad plays that PGN Tour 07 Golf game (something like that) because he grew out of Tiger Woods.


By Parhelion69 on 6/5/2007 3:26:10 PM , Rating: 2
Well, Zelda Ocarina of Time is widely considered to be the best game ever, so just by saying that, lots of people will disregard your comment.

However, I agree that the Wii lineup is lackluster, Zelda is just an expansion pack to Zelda 64, it doesn't offer anything new (no, the wolf thing isnt that good). And everything else is just meh. Mario party is the same game as ever, with the wiimote.

Wii needs some high quality games, smash bros would be welcome, a mario kart, mario galaxy should help a lot as well.


By animedude on 6/5/2007 5:53:31 PM , Rating: 2
Mario Striker Charged!! Online is damn fun.


By Chocolate Pi on 6/5/2007 6:09:25 PM , Rating: 2
Well, personally I think Zelda: TP is one of the best games I've ever played (so my opinion might need a disclaimer prior to your consumption), but Wario Ware and Metal Slug are VERY good titles worth one's cash. I just started Super Paper Mario, and it is good so far.

Metroid Prime 3, Super Mario Galaxy, and of course Brawl form a pretty good lineup. $29 Resident Evil 4 remake kicks it off, I'll be picking that up for sure since I didn't buy the original.

There are many good Gamecube games, now cheap but still widely available. Metroid Prime (both) are amazing adventure games, there are tons of good multiplayer games, and Tales of Symphonia is possibly my favorite RPG ever.

The Virtual Console alone doesn't make the system, but a few titles are nice additions. Ice Hockey is a must IMO, and you got all the Mario and Zelda around in case you missed them.


X360
By Egglick on 6/5/2007 10:40:47 AM , Rating: 3
Notice how poorly the X360 did, despite the fact that you would expect it to at least beat the PS3 by a small margin (it has a lower price, more games).

This type of logic doesn't always work with Japan though. They will only buy from Japanese companies, especially when it comes to things like electronics and cars.

You would need overwhelming and undeniable superiority in all aspects for a non-Japanese console to do well there.




RE: X360
By kamel5547 on 6/5/2007 11:39:36 AM , Rating: 2
I suspect (I could be very wrong) this has more to do with the types of games available in Japan. Traditionally games that do well here do not do well in Japan and viceversa. Of course there are always exceptions, but as a general rule the X-Box would ahve to have Japanese developers on board to be sucessful there, and I'm unsure how widespread support is on that end.


RE: X360
By jadedeath on 6/5/2007 12:04:10 PM , Rating: 2
That's what I kinda find funny about it.

Wii outsold PS3 5-1, ok cool.

PS3 outsold 360 5-1, and you get blank stares and people going "yeah and?"

Logan


RE: X360
By encryptkeeper on 6/5/2007 1:21:05 PM , Rating: 2
The difference is that the 360's pathetic performance in Japan is largely due to cultural influences, in a place where people in the last generation choose Sony first, and Nintendo second. Now that Nintendo is in the lead, and with such a huge lead after being second for so long, people are happier. To outsell Microsoft in Japan isn't a big deal, the Gameboy advance may be able to reach that mark.


RE: X360
By GoatMonkey on 6/5/2007 1:31:24 PM , Rating: 3
I thought the red ring of death would do well in the land of the rising sun.


RE: X360
By Samus on 6/5/2007 3:22:04 PM , Rating: 2
The XBOX360 still outsells the PS3 in the rest of the world by a healthy margin.


RE: X360
By encryptkeeper on 6/5/2007 4:07:50 PM , Rating: 3
And the Wii outsells the 360 and PS3 by a pretty wide margin too. Give credit where it's due!


RE: X360
By Ravenlore on 6/5/2007 12:51:37 PM , Rating: 2
Maybe like myself they see that the difference between Xbox 360 and Xbox is not a huge leap in the games. There is not a lot of difference in games on both Xbox360 and Xbox. Halo was a great game and looked great but the mechancis of Halo 3 is not that much different. The overall look is a lot sharper and better but not by a huge margin! So many people can think that they could just get an Xbox and be happy if they wanted those kinds of games.

Also the biggest game is Gears of War a shooter and upcoming Halo 3 another shooter. Just like Xbox with its many shooters which does not have a huge intrest in Japan!!! Thus, intrest in Xbox360 is low.


RE: X360
By West on 6/5/2007 11:19:35 PM , Rating: 2
Japanese are no more loyal to Japanese brands than Americans are to American brands. Actually, they care less about the brand nationality than Americans do.

Xbox1 failed because it was too big for the Japanese livingroom, and there were no RPG's and visual novels - games catered for the Japanese market.
Xbox360 is failing because the Xbox1 impression was really bad, and there still aren't enough Japanese-liked games to reverse the trend. Most Japanese don't play FPS and RTS.

Everyone in Japan owns an i-pod - not a Walkman. Starbucks is taking over, and people line up for hours for Krispy Kremes. If you meet the demands, it will sell.


RE: X360
By wallijonn on 6/6/2007 10:49:35 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Notice how poorly the X360 did, despite the fact that you would expect it to at least beat the PS3 by a small margin (it has a lower price, more games).

This type of logic doesn't always work with Japan though. They will only buy from Japanese companies, especially when it comes to things like electronics and cars.


Exactly how many RPGs are on the X360? 3? It'll take more than 3 games for the Japanese to buy the X360. Blue Dragon is an example of how the Japanese will buy the X360. And if MS doesn't come out with more, then chances are that the Japanese will buy the system & game, beat the game, then sell the system & game.


Sony and Microsoft have missed the boat
By JohofNovi on 6/5/2007 9:26:13 AM , Rating: 5
In my opinion Sony and Microsoft have priced themselves out of the core demographic. They created consoles that are trying to compete with the PC. Hard core gamers typically will own several consoles and a PC. Casual gamers will typically own one, maybe two consoles and a low end PC. Casual gamers easily outnumber the hard core. It's basic numbers. A casual gamer or Mom/Dad are going to buy the console with the most bang for the buck. The Wii delivers. It's simple economics.




RE: Sony and Microsoft have missed the boat
By NotAok on 6/5/2007 11:53:57 AM , Rating: 3
I'd rather them price themselves out of the core demographic than to release a slightly enhanced previous gen system with a gimmicky control scheme. I want (and need) my mature, "hardcore" games. Sure Nintendo games are fun given the right conditions, but Xbox 360 and PS3 are going to offer exactly what I want.

Maybe if the Wii gets some games that are worthwhile I'll give in, but right now there really is nothing on the console. People want to shout out Red Steel, or Excite Truck, etc. but really these are just mediocre, last-gen games with a new control scheme. Had these been released on any real next-gen platform (without the motion crap) they would've been bashed to all hell.


By Ravenlore on 6/5/2007 12:45:35 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Text


To me Xbox 360 is a pumped up version of Xbox nothing more at the moment at least. Not even Halo 3 has me all excited as Halo 2 did. There is nothing new its just the same with better graphics. Sure there are a few things that are upgraded but it is not much.

Same with PS3 and I love Sony, but the games are just not there. to me Sony should have waited and that way added more power to their system and let the componets drop in price so they would not have lost soo much money making each console. and given more time for developers to work with the system, and have better tools to make better games.

Well, Sony is not one year old yet but I just let go of my breath and do not see much difference between PS2/Xbox and PS3/Xbox360 well at lest the difference between PS2 and PS3 is a lot bigger than Xbox and Xbox360. I just hope that Sony waits till they can come up with something new like VR, or voice recognition, and voice synthisis along with HUGE updates with Artifical Intelligence .


RE: Sony and Microsoft have missed the boat
By JohofNovi on 6/5/2007 5:56:39 PM , Rating: 2
You illustrate my point exactly. The hard core gamer is in the minority. Nintendo wants to make money so they made a console specifically targeted at the casual crowd that was being completely ignored by Sony and Microsoft.

I have a Wii a PC. The Wii is the one that has my friends begging to come over and play. I've had whole parties centered around the thing. It is in a whole different class.

I have one friend with a Xbox360 and he bought it because he can't afford a good gaming PC, which I tease him about because for a little bit more cash he could have gotten a decent gaming PC.

If I want to play a hi-def shooter I'm headed to the PC to play F.E.A.R. or Farcry. If I want to have a party with all my friends it's the Wii hands down. There isn't a must have title for the Xbox360 or the PS3 that I wouldn't rather play on the PC. If it isn't available for the PC...It probably isn't worth getting.


By Timeless on 6/6/2007 2:06:54 PM , Rating: 2
I think you got it wrong there. You split the the types into casual and hardcore. There is no such thing. Ever heard of black, white and shades of grey? Have you ever thought that some casual gamers and hardcore tend to be one and the same? There is no definition to separate the causal from the hardcore. To say that Sony and Microsoft don't cater to the casual would be a lie. Just curious, but what would be your definition of what you call "casual"?


Good enough
By Zurtex on 6/5/2007 7:52:41 AM , Rating: 4
I'm not going to try and go in to very subjective pros and cons of the Wii. But it appears to me that Nintendo have managed to catch the target audience they wanted to, not the hardcore gamer but rather the people who enjoy a bit of game playing from time to time (not video game playing, just a bit of a laugh in doors) and who think the graphical power is 'good enough'.

Now I'm not going to say HD is not worth it, because I don't agree with that at all. I probabily try and watch almost everything in HD these days, I really appreciate it. However, most people I've shown HD have struggled to tell the difference between HD and high quality DVD running through a 480p CRT. To most people DVD is good enough, just as to most people the Wii's graphical power is good enough.

I own a Wii myself and am looking forward to the games coming out for the rest of the year. But yeah I would agree with some comments that the 1st gen games on the Wii have been a little lackluster. (Though I loved Sonic, but that's me I guess).




RE: Good enough
By corduroygt on 6/5/2007 9:05:31 AM , Rating: 2
What size screen did you show the difference? If you don't have 50+ inches it's not that easy to tell, especially from the distances tv is watched.


RE: Good enough
By Tanclearas on 6/5/2007 10:28:53 AM , Rating: 3
Not sure how many people you know with 50"+ screens. I haven't met too many with screens over 40". As for HD, I'm not sure I could care any less than I do about it. If you are watching a show, and actually notice some tiny visual detail in the show (that you couldn't have also noticed on standard def), then the simple truth is the story just isn't good enough to hold your attention.


RE: Good enough
By bhieb on 6/5/2007 12:16:06 PM , Rating: 2
I personally have mine hooked up to my 100" front projection system. It looks really good, at or just barely below DVD IMHO. I loved Zelda, but I really don't play that much with 2 kids and loads of other things going on.

My only complaint is the IR bar on a screen that size takes some getting used to (it is very touchy).


RE: Good enough
By wallijonn on 6/6/2007 11:02:49 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
the IR bar on a screen that size takes some getting used to (it is very touchy).


When you do the bar width adjustment, that is still about 1/4 the size of the screen. Figure that the TV is 48" wide and the bar is 12" wide. But the closer you are to the set, the worse it feels because you'll be aiming "up" more. I think Nintendo needs to make a 4 bar system, with a bar on each side of the TV. That should pinpoint the cursor.


I FINALLY FOUND ONE! WooHoo!
By Mitch101 on 6/5/2007 11:16:53 AM , Rating: 2
Im happy to say I am finally a Wii owner. Why did I choose a Wii over the competition?

1-I have kids. (Nintendo is very kid friendly)
2-I like games to be fun. (Sony and Microsoft is more for the serious console gamer)
3-No backwards compatibility BS with previous console gamecube games. Which again supports my #1 reason.
4-3rd person shooters I prefer to play on the PC. I just prefer a mouse over console controllers.
5-If I need intensive detail thats what my PC is for.

I wanted something simple and fun for the kids and myself. The Wii isnt for everyone but plain and simple its a great console. They all are good at something. The Wii just fits a simpler crowd and hey I like a little sillyness to a game.

I would probably add a PS3 or 360 to my collection if either of them supported a mouse for first person shooter games. I just cant grasp the thumbsticks well enough. Hey thats me. I will miss high speed driving games though as this to me is where consoles rock over PC's.

Why does one console have to rule and all other consoles suck? Cant anyone appreciate what each of the consoles adds to the equation? Its like a political campaign instead of looking at the positive everyone bashes the other with negatives.




By jadedeath on 6/5/2007 12:02:53 PM , Rating: 2
So far as I know you can put a mouse in a PS3 and it'll work just fine.

Logan


By VooDooAddict on 6/5/2007 1:01:35 PM , Rating: 1
Agree on the thumb sticks.

I know people call me crazy for buying Halo 2 on the PC ... but I've never played it before. I guess I now know how Mac users feel when then finally get a new game 18-24 months after it was first released.

I guess people are right .. Microsoft is copying Apple.


RE: I FINALLY FOUND ONE! WooHoo!
By GoatMonkey on 6/5/2007 2:14:31 PM , Rating: 2
People pick one and bash the rest because they can't afford all 3. It helps prevent buyers remorse if they pick the same one as their friends also.


RE: I FINALLY FOUND ONE! WooHoo!
By badmoodguy on 6/5/2007 3:20:01 PM , Rating: 2
People pick something that the post doesn't even mention (being able to afford it) and bash them. It helps prevent thinking anybody else has a view that is both correct and different from their own.

I agree with the grandpa post. I could easily afford all 3 (heck, the only previous generation system I don't have is a GC) but I only have a Wii for the exact same reasons. Until the PSP3/Xbox360 multimedia exceeds XBMC, why bother with low rez (if you think HD is high resolution, you need to get out more) FPS with a thumb stick vs high rez monitor with keyboard/dx1/mouse? At the end of the day, the Wii is much better for its market than the PS3 is for its market. The PS3 ends up competing w/ game computers and just can't compare. So when price is no object, the PS3 doesn't cut it, when price is an object, the PS3 doesn't cut it. The Xbox360 is just an XBox+ with Live thrown in.


By GoatMonkey on 6/5/2007 3:57:32 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Why does one console have to rule and all other consoles suck?

That question is what I am responding to. My answer doesn't apply to you, since you are not bashing other consoles. We need a reply from an extreme fanboy of one of the consoles to know if my response holds any merit. It has some in my opinion, but obviously there are other reasons.


Sony Responds to Wii --- The Pii
By knitecrow on 6/5/2007 12:02:12 PM , Rating: 2
Introducing the Pii. A Sony PS2 in a cute mini shell with motion control wand and gimmicky games.

---

Seriously, the Wii may have been a good move by Nintendo but if it is #1 this gen it is a bad news for gamers. Is Japan full of casuals who don't care for graphics?




By jadedeath on 6/5/2007 12:06:08 PM , Rating: 2
You must have missed all the articles that state that the Wii is holding the #1 sales position the world over, not just in Japan.

Does that mean that everywhere is full of casual gamers who don't care for graphics? Oh Noes!

Logan


By pyrosity on 6/5/2007 1:54:13 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
the Wii may have been a good move by Nintendo but if it is #1 this gen it is a bad news for gamers. Is Japan full of casuals who don't care for graphics?

(emphasis added)

I consider it a tragedy when I see people influenced by a graphics-driven approach to games. Personally, I consider this a flawed understanding of the basic concept of video games.

Graphics are an essential aspect of the aesthetic appeal of a video game (and I do look forward to seeing how the visuals of games like Bioshock and Crysis turn out), but they are hardly something to turn so quickly to when looking for either entertainment or artistic, deep experience in a game.

In addition, I do feel that the Wii is in need of some games to really convince developers that they can and should really "have at" the Wii and its unsurpassed potential. Prime 3 may do it for FPS control setups, and it may not.

Just remember that the DS took a while to do exactly what the Wii is going through right now. Now companies like Square-Enix are throwing big budget games at the system (DQIX, FFXII RW, FFIII & FFIV remakes, FF:CC, etc.).


By Hakuryu on 6/5/2007 1:57:07 PM , Rating: 3
I'm a long time hardcore gamer that started with the TRS-80 Color Computer 2 way back before the first Atari 2600. I've owned every console until the XBox, and many PC's. The Wii is the only console I'm looking at buying now.

Graphics are nice, but gameplay is king. If a game is mediocre like Resistance for the PS3; it doesn't matter how good it looks or how many poly's it pushes around. I still play Heroes of Might and Magic 2 and Enemy Territory on the PC which are by no means state of the art graphics wise, but still incredibly fun to play.

quote:
Seriously, the Wii may have been a good move by Nintendo but if it is #1 this gen it is a bad news for gamers. Is Japan full of casuals who don't care for graphics?


Maybe Japan is full of gamers that choose gameplay over graphics. I'd say that is good news for gamers.


By bigredk001 on 6/5/2007 5:36:57 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Seriously, the Wii may have been a good move by Nintendo but if it is #1 this gen it is a bad news for gamers. Is Japan full of casuals who don't care for graphics?


And Starcraft is still an immensely popular game, notably in Korea. You don't need great graphics if you have great gameplay.


Fan boys war...
By Le Québécois on 6/5/2007 7:56:48 AM , Rating: 2
It won't be long befor this news get full of people for or against the Wii. I don't get it honestly.

You don't like it, fine, we get it, don't come in every Nintendo news related story to say the same things again and again, it's getting old.

Why do you do it anyways, do you well threaten by the Wii, fear that you won't get super FPS with killing edge graphics? Sure you'll get them just from someone else, not Nintendo.

The Wii sells, numbers don't lie, peoples like it and it's there to stay, get use to it.




RE: Fan boys war...
By Timeless on 6/6/2007 2:15:38 PM , Rating: 2
It's funny how you're the one that's starting by making this post.


RE: Fan boys war...
By Timeless on 6/6/2007 2:20:08 PM , Rating: 2
Meant to say "starting it by making that post".


I grew up!
By feelingshorter on 6/5/2007 12:44:38 PM , Rating: 4
Funny thing is that Sony was saying how the Wii was an impulsive buy and that when a kid turns 13 he will want something "better."

I find the opposite is true. As a kid, I had so much free time, I played games hardcore, such as CS and starcraft. By the time I reached my sophomore year in high school, I moved away from playing games to socializing a lot more. By my junior year, I got a job for obvious reasons. By my senior year, playing CS:S (the only game i played) didn't make much sense to me. Then comes college and I have even less time as I did during high school since I have to study a lot more (and have even less money lol).

The excitement you see on people's face when they play is unlike any other console. (make note of the huge difference between excitement and people just smiling) My friends would laugh and get so freaking loud at night that I have to kick them out of my house because my parents are sleeping! I see the same people playing PS3/360 and they just don't get the same excitement. Thats why its hard for Sony to make commercials showing how "fun" the PS3 is, and the advertisements look very bland as someone on these forums have already mentioned.

Thats how my friends and I "grew up." Just my story, not saying its everyone else's.




Xbox 360 Sales figure
By knightspawn1138 on 6/5/2007 7:54:29 PM , Rating: 2
Something that they didn't point out in the article is that the Xbox 360 has been out for over a year. They've already had months where they sold at high volumes. To put it in true perspective, you'd have to compare all of the sales numbers for these consoles to the current figures for the PS2 and other last-gen consoles. If the Xbox 360 is selling below the PS2's level, then it really is being ignored in Japan (like it was at launch). If it's selling above the PS2, then it's just hit it's stride, and shouldn't be counted out.

Personally, I think Microsoft need to get more Japanese developers using their hardware. They need to get more of the core RPG gamers interested in getting an Xbox 360.

Of course, I'd also like to see how the numbers say Blu-Ray and HD-DVD are doing. I'd like to see if Sony's leveraging of the PS3 as a Blu-ray DVD player is paying off, or if they're just leading the industry down the Betamax path again.

Finally, I took advantage of a CompUSA closing nearby to pick up a set-top blu-ray player for $280, sell it to Best Buy for $580, and pick up a PS3. In effect, I bought my PS3 for only $330. At that price, it's worth it as both a Blu-ray player and optional game player. That's why I want to know that Blu-ray is doing well, and that the PS3 is going to have a future.




RE: Xbox 360 Sales figure
By Timeless on 6/6/2007 2:25:11 PM , Rating: 2
All consoles have a future, even if that future sucks. Blu ay is another story. It's a toss up right now about who's gonna win.


By Ravenlore on 6/5/2007 12:29:52 PM , Rating: 2
I got my Wii on launch and played Wii sports for a while but only made me DREAM of future baseball games, Fight Night 3/4, Virtual Tennice, Tiger woods golf, and Mario versions of each game. AND here I still wait for these games.

Though, as I waited I got Smooth moves, and Wii play and for the first time since.... I can't remember it's been years since I paid $50.00 for videogame but I have now got 2 and may get 2 more before the year is over.

Will this last??? I think so, as there are plenty of games and fun to have with this control scheem. I heard that Summer games is comming out for the Wii next year. I remember back to the day of C64 and the fun we had with summer games. And now thinking back, my dreams of close approxamation to the real games and not just pressing keybord buttons is HERE!!!




Wii is fun
By gus6464 on 6/5/2007 12:38:11 PM , Rating: 2
My wife is addicted to Mario Party 8, and she hates video games.




Wiimote
By Sureshot324 on 6/6/2007 12:01:37 AM , Rating: 2
Other than Wii Sports, I don't think any Wii game has really made very good use of the Wii controller, except maybe first person shooters. Most games just use Wiimote guestures in place of button presses, which doesn't really add anything IMO. Using the Wiimote as a steering wheel isn't really any better than just using the analog stick to steer.




Ok ...
By chick0n on 6/5/07, Rating: -1
RE: Ok ...
By chick0n on 6/5/07, Rating: -1
RE: Ok ...
By knowyourenemy on 6/5/2007 9:23:53 AM , Rating: 2
Who paid you?


RE: Ok ...
By xti on 6/5/2007 10:46:54 AM , Rating: 2
even if there are people of this mentality, that everything must be in 1080 at 60+ fps, they still represent a part of the demographic similar to overclockers, for example...< a couple % of the whole consumer bases.

simple economics, as it has been said time and time again. unless they clone you a billion times, its not gonna change.


RE: Ok ...
By 2munds on 6/7/2007 5:32:10 PM , Rating: 2
Just a quick note. From what I've read there are no 1080i games running at 60fps, the current PS3 games are 720p. Even the next Ninja Gaiden is going to be a 720p game. Maybe next wave of PS3 games will be 1080i.

Also, while not a Wii point this is on point, I think the Nintendo DS shows the ultimate argument it's game play over graphics power (my wife has logged more time on Animal Crossing the I have on any game by far).


RE: Ok ...
By Mitch101 on 6/5/2007 1:33:37 PM , Rating: 2
If the graphic suck so bad why is the PS2 still selling so well?


"I f***ing cannot play Halo 2 multiplayer. I cannot do it." -- Bungie Technical Lead Chris Butcher

DailyTech Poll
Which web browser do you use on your primary personal machine? 






44 Comments









botimage
Copyright 2009 DailyTech LLC. - RSS Feed | Advertise | About Us | Ethics | FAQ | Terms, Conditions & Privacy Information | Kristopher Kubicki