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Wii U console

Wii U controller

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Wii U controller used in 5-player gaming
The Wii U features an innovative controller with a built-in 6.2" screen

Nintendo's Wii was a smash hit when it launched in 2006 and was sold out for months as buyers scrambled to get their hands on one. The Wii's sales streak continued for years until the downturn in the economy and competing motion-controlled accessories started making their way to more powerful consoles (Kinect on Xbox 360 and Move for the PlayStation 3).

I. The Wii U controller

Keeping this in mind, Nintendo is looking stay relevant in the home gaming console market and today announced its Wii successor: the Wii U. While the name isn't very imaginative at all, the Wii takes an intriguing new direction in controller design with a large, integrated 6.2" color LCD. The screen is flanked by two analog pads, a "cross" control pad, A/B/X/Y buttons, L/R buttons, and ZL/ZR buttons.

In addition, the controller features an accelerometer, gyroscope, rumble support, microphone, speakers, stylus, sensor strip, and a front-facing camera. Nintendo also says that in single-player mode, what is displayed on the controller's screen can change based on its orientation with the TV screen. Likewise, the controller can also display information that isn't readily available on the TV screen. 

For single-player games, it sounds like unnecessary complexity for gamers who will now have to divide their attention between a 6.2" display and a 42"+ HDTV, but we'll give Nintendo the benefit of the doubt with this one. After all, not many expected gamers to be receptive to Wii Remote + Nunchuk.

However, with multiplayer games, things get a bit more interesting. Nintendo showed a demo of a multiplayer game with four players using traditional Wii Remotes (4-player, split-screen). A fifth player was able to join in on the action with the new Wii U controller using the 6.2" display to keep up with the other players. Check out this video demonstration to see how the screen can be used in multiplayer.

While the new Wii U controller is the attention grabber today, the old Wii Remote/Remote Plus, Nunchuk, Classic Controller, and Balance Board are all supported by the new console.

II. The Wii U console

As for the console itself, it looks like a Wii that has bulked up a bit and gained a few more curves. The Wii U measures 10.5" in length, 6.8" in width, and 1.8" in height.
An IBM Power-based multi-core processor will power the console. We don't know how powerful this processor is, but the graphics don't really seem to impress at the moment and don't look much different from the current Wii (see game screenshots on the right).

Like the original Wii, it will debut in white (although there are sure to be other colors introduced down the road). The Wii U will output 1080p over HDMI (component, S-video, and composite connections will be available to those still stuck in the dark ages). 

When it comes to storage, the Wii U has an unspecified amount of onboard flash memory, a built-in Secure Digital slot (like the original Wii), and four USB 2.0 ports. USB thumb drives and external USB hard drives will be supported. It's unknown if the Wii U's optical drive will support DVD playback, but Nintendo would be pretty boneheaded to disable that feature like they did with North American Wii consoles.

Also, for those of you that have a stash of Wii games collecting dust on the shelf, they will also be playable on the Wii U.

“Wii U redefines the structure of home entertainment by fundamentally changing how the TV, the game console and the Internet function and interact together,” said Nintendo President Satoru Iwata. “The experience enabled by Wii U and the new controller takes players deeper into their games, while reaching out wider than ever before to be inviting to all kinds of gamers.” 

Since the Wii U won't be released until 2012, the company isn't quite ready to reveal pricing at this time.



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WTF controller...
By ClownPuncher on 6/7/2011 3:44:30 PM , Rating: 2
Seriously, that controller looks uncomfortable and expensive. Are we really expected to hold it in front of our face to see both screens, too?

Bad design Nintendo, bad design. Didn't anyone learn from the Early Dreamcast and Xbox hamburger controllers? I think they just wanted something that looked like an iPad.




RE: WTF controller...
By Hiawa23 on 6/7/2011 3:50:20 PM , Rating: 1
Wow, I am shocked. I absolutely did not like the Wii, as i much preferred the games on the PS3/360, but looks like Nintendo will welcome me back to the fold in 2012. That looks fantastic to me, & seems like nothing we have seen before. Nintendo, easily took this years E3.


RE: WTF controller...
By Motoman on 6/7/2011 4:56:39 PM , Rating: 5
Really? We have loved our Wii - and would never even consider a 360/PS3...

...but this new controller just looks totally unwieldy, and I do not want to have to change focus back and forth from my controller to the TV.

Obviously we'll wait and see - I'm happy to see HD audio/video...but that controller thing just seems totally WTF.


RE: WTF controller...
By chick0n on 6/7/2011 9:37:29 PM , Rating: 3
that's because you can't play real games.

99% of the Wii games are tailored for retards. the 1% is ok but still not worth 50-60 bux price tag.

b4 u bash me, yes I have a Wii, but I collect all consoles. and for Wii games, I rent them , never buy. not even worth 20 bux. garbage.


RE: WTF controller...
By icanhascpu on 6/7/2011 9:54:54 PM , Rating: 1
The Wii is tailored as a family/friends console.

Usually I find that people that think of the Wii the way you do are forever alone .


RE: WTF controller...
By Motoman on 6/10/2011 11:11:41 AM , Rating: 2
You're the one that doesn't play "real" games. You just totter on with your COD4356, which is the exact same game as every FPS that ever came before, and which is prized by 12 year-olds world wide. There's nothing more boring than playing such things, or the people who prattle on about how great they are.

I play MMORPGs and RTSs for the most part...on my PC. Real games - games you have to *think* about...not just bounce around and mash buttons like a moron.

The Wii absolutely CLOBBERED the 360 and PS3 precisely for the reason that the VAST MAJORITY of potential video game consumers DON'T want to play your gay little FPSs all day long.

You're in the minority. And that is an unassailable fact, signed, sealed & delivered courtesy of the Wii.


RE: WTF controller...
By Hiawa23 on 6/8/2011 10:23:03 AM , Rating: 2
I may be in the minority here, but I am not looking at the WII U to compare to the 360 or PS3. The 360 has been out for 7 years when it comes, PS3 6, so the Wii U to me starts the next gen. It's early on, but so far seems like Nintendo is playing up the tablet controller moreso than the console itself which may not be good. I think it should be on par or slightly better than the PS3 in terms of power, but from what I have seen, & it is early on, it doesn't look like it's more powerful by much, & we know MS & Sony both have already started working on their next gen consoles which will probably be way ahead of the Wii U in terms of performance. I have always liked Nintendo consoles, I own everyone since the Nes, but they lost me with the Wii. I am not a fanboy, I preferred the more action oriented Xbox 360/Ps3, cause that's what I like to play now, action, shooters, sports games, & I don't like motion controls for anyone as I am a traditional gamer who is fine with a controller, but Nintendo could release the U at a good time depending on the price, cause by that time a 360 250gb will be $199 or less & the PS3 will be $249 or less & if the U is priced too high many will opt for the cheaper brands especially if the console proves not to be equal to or better than them performance wise, so price is going to be factor in 2012. I buy all the consoles, so I really don't care what the U cost. One last thought, the casual market proved that they will buy hardware like the Wii, but as we have seen, other than the Nintendo games, they don't buy much of anything else, so Nintendo needs to try to balance the hardcore crowd also as these are the gamer who buy 4 5 6 7 games at a time or lineup waiting for every other game to come out. Seems like the Wii is just sitting out there collecting dust for many gamers.


RE: WTF controller...
By aharris02 on 6/8/2011 12:26:30 PM , Rating: 4
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RE: WTF controller...
By amanojaku on 6/7/2011 3:51:08 PM , Rating: 2
Did you see the game play videos? Did you read the part about the Wii U supporting the existing controllers? It looks better than it sounds. Finally, the graphics look better. Not quite a PS3 or 360, but definitely better!

http://www.buzzfeed.com/gavon/nintendo-announces-s...
http://e3.nintendo.com/hw/#/gallery/device
http://e3.nintendo.com/hw/#/video/HW_sizzle
http://e3.nintendo.com/hw/#/video/HW_demo


RE: WTF controller...
By ClownPuncher on 6/7/2011 3:55:42 PM , Rating: 2
I did, I made no comment on the console or the games. That controller looks like an abomination. I get you don't have to use it, but it looks like an abomination.


RE: WTF controller...
By someguy123 on 6/7/2011 4:03:30 PM , Rating: 2
How does it look like an abomination?

This is what people have been asking for in touch screens ever since they became popular: a gamepad not part of the screen itself.


RE: WTF controller...
By stm1185 on 6/7/2011 4:38:04 PM , Rating: 5
A 6 inch HD screen on each controller, how will that not cost over $100 per controller.

And what is the real benefit of it, I get to look at my controller while I am playing a game on a TV?

They should have an option to have a picture in picture window on screen with what the controller would show and a nice standard game controller like the Xbox and PS3 has that would retail for under $40. Or hell even let me use my mouse and keyboard since it has usb ports, or even a wired xbox 360 controller.

The focus on gimmicky peripherals instead of solid gameplay these last few years of console gaming has gotten to just retarded levels. And they still havent gotten a better setup then mouse and keyboard for shooters and rpgs!


RE: WTF controller...
By someguy123 on 6/7/2011 5:53:22 PM , Rating: 3
well, I can't really argue that nintendo loves gimmicky peripherals, but they've been doing this since the NES era.

The screen is meant to be an extension, or, like in the video, as a method of targeting by placing the controller over the screen (from a distance). Think of it like the DS's touch screen. You could use it as inventory management, or use it to issue gesture commands like with zelda for the DS.


RE: WTF controller...
By tastyratz on 6/8/2011 7:52:52 AM , Rating: 2
I am sure it will be proficient in allowing me to look down at my hands for some arbitrary statistic long enough to look up and find my character died.

Seriously I *DO* see where this could come in handy for a specific type of game. In reality what it will do is DISCOURAGE family play by incredibly expensive controllers that will either be heavy from a big battery or have very poor battery life.

I can see how an extension screen add on could be useful for those times you want to shield information from other players (think plays in a football game). But for the majority this gimmick will become tiresome and annoying. By being in the default controller I am sure game developers will go wild with using it making support for legacy controllers spotty at best, or just for legacy games.

I guess we will have to see how many old people want to shake a tablet at their tv.

Clearly nobody learned from the atari jaguar controller:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thum...


RE: WTF controller...
By MrBlastman on 6/8/2011 12:16:52 PM , Rating: 2
It looks bulky to say the least.

As for inventory management? Okay, the screenshot looks cool. But then, after looking at it, I was reminded of my Atari 2600 back in... 1983.

Yeah, I said 1983. See, in 1983 there was this game called Star Raiders--great game, by the way. In it, you used a keypad that hooked up to the Atari with a plastic overlay for what each button did. With the keypad, you could access starmaps and other ship functions while using the joystick and fire button to fly the craft.

Yeah, this was back in 1983... on a console.

Okay, I'll be fair--in 1983 we didn't have a digital touch screen as the pad. This new iteration looks far cooler. But, it is just that, a new iteration. It's been done before, in a different and far more low-tech way.


RE: WTF controller...
By Synastar on 6/8/2011 5:59:43 PM , Rating: 2
Wow, you just took me back. I remember picking that game up post 1984 crash for like $3 with the keypad. Good times when you're 10. Three bucks wasn't a hard sell to mom and dad.

The Wii U controller looks slick but yeah, if it's even heavy as an iPad, I foresee some arm fatigue.


RE: WTF controller...
By superstition on 6/9/2011 6:12:26 AM , Rating: 2
Star Raiders actually came out in 1979, the same year that the Mattel Intellivision console came out. That console came with controllers that had keypads and overlays. The Intellivision, by the way, could do speech synthesis with an add-on.

Coleco's Colecovision, which came out a few years later, also had keypad controllers with overlays.


RE: WTF controller...
By superstition on 6/9/2011 6:14:18 AM , Rating: 2
Ok.. The 2600 console version of Star Raiders came out in 1982, so it looks like the Intellivision was the first to market with keypad + overlay controllers. And they were standard.


RE: WTF controller...
By ClownPuncher on 6/7/2011 5:16:12 PM , Rating: 5
Because it throws ergonomics out the window. It simply doesn't look comfortable to hold.

I'm glad everyone is hyped about Nintendo entering the more serious game market once again, but how many hours of gaming do you think you can take while holding this thing?


RE: WTF controller...
By someguy123 on 6/7/2011 5:51:01 PM , Rating: 2
On the back there are pieces of plastic curved out for your hand. If you looked at the "controller" separate from the screen, it's very similar to the wii-mote, except not as ergonomic as the nunchuck.

At any rate, it depends a lot on how heavy this thing is. if it's heavy, I can see a real problem, but if it's light it should be fine.


RE: WTF controller...
By Manch on 6/8/2011 11:18:59 AM , Rating: 2
hopefully you wont have to keep it plugged in on a marathon gaming session. I'd be piss if I had to constantly recharge the damn thing or play with it plugged in.


RE: WTF controller...
By phantom505 on 6/7/2011 6:09:50 PM , Rating: 2
How about you hold one and find out rather than speculate wildly?


RE: WTF controller...
By ClownPuncher on 6/7/2011 6:27:24 PM , Rating: 2
You're doing the same amount of speculation. Are you the Tony Swash of Nintendo or something?


RE: WTF controller...
By phantom505 on 6/7/11, Rating: -1
RE: WTF controller...
By torpor on 6/8/2011 12:43:31 PM , Rating: 1
I can see it now...

wiiu is hueg lol


RE: WTF controller...
By M4gery on 6/9/2011 10:09:48 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
How does it look like an abomination?


Did you even look at the damned thing? How does it NOT look like an abomination? It is huge, unweildly, non-ergonomic, and that touchscreen is a joke. It may look cool, but shifting focus constantly like that = migraine in no time flat.


RE: WTF controller...
By tlbj6142 on 6/7/2011 4:09:36 PM , Rating: 5
I agree. I get hand cramps holding my tablet upright on my lap for an extended period of time. While the controller might be a bit lighter, I can't imagine holding it away from my body (like most game controllers) for an extended period of time.

One thing I noticed that was lacking from the Nintendo presentation was an online community/downloads, etc. (like Xbox live) Sure they have that today, but it is really, clunky and slow. I wonder if they will make any improvements?


RE: WTF controller...
By phantom505 on 6/7/2011 4:43:57 PM , Rating: 1
Did you even bother to see how it fits in the hand? Did you look at the finger catch that it rests on? I thought not.


RE: WTF controller...
By ClownPuncher on 6/7/11, Rating: -1
RE: WTF controller...
By phantom505 on 6/7/2011 6:11:39 PM , Rating: 1
Wow. Did you just make a Mom joke? Are you old enough to be using the internet without your parents permission?


RE: WTF controller...
By ClownPuncher on 6/7/2011 6:30:53 PM , Rating: 1
It was a good one, too. I know you liked it, even if only a little bit.

If only I had the chance to use this giant, uncomfortable looking controller, maybe I would be more high-brow.


RE: WTF controller...
By icanhascpu on 6/7/2011 9:57:43 PM , Rating: 1
Dude. Excessive. It cant be much more than a few hundred grams. Typically in single player games you wont be holding it at arms length for more than a few seconds. In family/party games you will be having too much fun to give a fuck.


RE: WTF controller...
By Spuke on 6/7/11, Rating: 0
RE: WTF controller...
By Mortando on 6/7/2011 4:27:45 PM , Rating: 3
I just can't read the name without hearing Ling from Kung Pow.


RE: WTF controller...
By Captain Orgazmo on 6/7/2011 6:40:25 PM , Rating: 2
Damn you beat me to it... wii uuuu wii uuuu wii uuuu


RE: WTF controller...
By nafhan on 6/7/2011 4:41:17 PM , Rating: 2
People at Ars Technica (who have actually held it) said it's comfortable to hold for extended periods of time. I refrain from expressing playability concerns until I've actually tried it.

Price, though is another issue. I can't imagine those things being less than $100 a piece. I just don't see a controller that's essentially a tablet costing a whole lot less than... a tablet. Also, worried about durability.


RE: WTF controller...
By Cr0nJ0b on 6/7/2011 6:28:18 PM , Rating: 2
I'm not all too sure about the controller, but the first thing i tought of was Pokemon. My kids are all into the DS pokemon games, and I can just imagine them using the new controller as their poke radar (or whatever they call it) and hunting all over the house for a new pokemon to find. or doing a treasure hunt in some games and searching the floor for clues...or playing jeopardy and actually getting to type in your answer without the other players seeing what you are doing....it's interesting..


RE: WTF controller...
By someguy123 on 6/7/2011 6:59:11 PM , Rating: 2
well, those tablets need full operating systems to support apps, and they need the hardware that can run said OS and apps.

This controller can run on low end hardware because all it needs to do is essentially stream video from this "wii u" box. the screen doesn't look very high quality, and I believe they said it isn't HD resolution, so it's likely relatively cheap, like the DS screen.


RE: WTF controller...
By nafhan on 6/8/2011 9:38:11 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
well, those tablets need full operating systems to support apps, and they need the hardware that can run said OS and apps.
This means they may be able to go cheap on the processor in the controller. Seriously, though it's basically got everything in it that the Wiimote/nunchuck has + a 6 inch touchscreen, related controller chips, a camera, and more. Just the ability to stream video indicates a big jump in capability for a "controller". I will seriously be blown away if they can get these things to $100. Happy blown away, 'cause this looks cool, but still...


RE: WTF controller...
By The Raven on 6/8/2011 11:42:36 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Seriously, that controller looks uncomfortable and expensive .

Spot on analysis. Besides, the cost will seem even worse considering I already have 2 of these controllers... a.k.a 2 DS Lites. But at least the DS is comfy.

And big LOL @ the iPad part!


RE: WTF controller...
By The0ne on 6/9/2011 12:09:04 AM , Rating: 2
Looks horrible? Hahah, I remember not too long ago, really...not that long ago, that many here abhor the Wii in almost every aspect. But hey, some came around to seeing how millions loved it and still do. So much for graphics and standard game stuff.

So now we have Nintendo's new gen console with touch, gyro, portable gamepad/device, backward Wii compatible, etc and everyone here is once again complaining as though they actually now the business or what the future holds HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH

How close minded and short sighted many of you are, haven't you already learned. Hey, we're DT users...it's expected HAHAHAHAHHAHAH

Shortly after the release of the console I'll be here laughing again and again :)


Don't count them out.
By Smilin on 6/7/2011 4:13:41 PM , Rating: 2
I'm looking at that thing and just wondering if it will blend.

You could do some nifty video chat and add some clever touchscreen apps but for gaming I couldn't imagine having to hold that chunk of crap for any length of time.

BUT, I learned long ago not to count Nintendo out. They make some really fun stuff and have a loyal following.

So my opinion: So ugly you should kill it with fire but it will sell like hotcakes. Just watch.




RE: Don't count them out.
By Klober on 6/7/2011 6:27:12 PM , Rating: 2
Exactly. I'm going to keep a close eye on this. Depending on how it looks closer to launch I'll probably end up buying as many as I can get my hands on and selling them on eBay for big time profit! :P


RE: Don't count them out.
By Aloonatic on 6/8/2011 3:33:11 AM , Rating: 2
I'll have to wait and see how much this costs, and how much a replacement tablet controller will cost too. I think my Wii is the only console I've had that I haven't had to replace at least 1 controller, but that's mostly because I hardly play on it than anything else. They often break and are not cheap to replace at the best of times.

One of the big things that made the Wii such a success was it's price. It was clearly the cheapest console out of the 3, and the wiimote was pretty sturdy.

The touch-screen controller looks pretty robust, and I'm sure that they have done plenty of testing, but I would still have reservations about handing it over to small children. There could be a lot of household arguments stemming from broken, and expensive to replace controllers.

Also, how heavy is it? The Wii was a big hit with the elderly, but I'm not sure that they will have the strength or stamina to be able to hold the touch-screen controller up and play with it for too long.

Some of the tablet/Wii integration looks good, but this seems like something that MS could get going on a windows phone with a little giggery-pokery, and Sony could get something going too I'd wager.

On the looks front, I've never really understood why people care all hat much. They are just boxes that sit under or by your TV and they are rarely works of art. The game cube was probably the best looking console I can think of.

Still, we'll have to wait and see, and I certainly wont count them out either as the above are just issues that I have based on the small amount of info there is out there and the videos that I've seen.


By finbarqs on 6/7/2011 5:46:47 PM , Rating: 2
look at the nature demo running on Wii U console!

http://www.gametrailers.com/game/wii-u/14932




By gillt021 on 6/7/2011 10:10:36 PM , Rating: 2
I read an article on IGN that said they had another tech demo that made them wonder why they showed the bird demo in the fist place. I'd link it but I'm at work and my access is limited. Shhh...


By haukionkannel on 6/8/2011 6:22:12 AM , Rating: 2
Not a bad demo, but still just a demo. But it does show that new Wii is guite near PS3 and Xbox360. It is just a good thing. We know from PC perspective that consoles are now the limiting factor when thinking multi platform games. So making new wii any better, would have been a waste of money... pity but true...
This can mean that we will see more games to wii, because it is good enough. The harder part is to say how easy or hard it would be to make multi platform port to new wii console? A time will tell.
But as I said, graphic looked good enough. Not very impressive, but good enough. If wii maintain it's "family" status this can sell well enough, so that there will be at least three big console manufacturers allso in the future.


Curious
By Stuka on 6/7/2011 4:25:08 PM , Rating: 2
My first thought is this would possibly cinch Nintendo for the "party game" crowd. Implemented correctly, you could have distinct views on each controller and a "global" view on the TV. Each player would be able to control his character from his own POV, with his own HUD (HDD?), showing all his weapons/spells/etc. Then, anyone who isn't playing at the moment can watch the action on the global view. Football, baseball, poker, PvP RPGs, Smash Bros., would be great with it. And combat style games with capture the flag, onslaught, or deathmatch modes would be playable in anyone's living room.

That being said, I am sure this will be nothing like that. So, we'll see how it turns out.




RE: Curious
By BansheeX on 6/7/2011 8:31:19 PM , Rating: 2
Smash Bros in widescreen can show you and everyone else on one screen, which is exactly what you need to play that game. You can't survive looking at a smaller POV that obscures other characters.

This "gamepad" will be good for poker games to hide your hand and that's about it. Companies will needlessly offload menus and stuff onto it like the DS and market it as the second coming. And I say needlessly because when you're looking at a menu, you can't be looking at something else, so menus as overlays is efficient, not a limitation of single screen systems.


New name vote
By MadDogMorgan on 6/7/2011 5:22:45 PM , Rating: 2
They need help on the new name.

I vote for NuWii

Pronounced "New" "Wee", of course.

Hmmm, how about WiiTu as a second choice in stupidly spelled names.





RE: New name vote
By Iaiken on 6/7/2011 7:10:31 PM , Rating: 2
I have to say the name is as lawltarded as the reasoning behind it...


Nintendo have figured out their market.
By dananski on 6/8/2011 10:40:09 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
...sounds like unnecessary complexity for gamers who will now have to divide their attention between a 6.2" display and a 42"+ HDTV


No. Wii gamers don't tend to own an HDTV, let alone a good one of that size - the Wii is designed to be a bit of easy-going, cheap fun, in comparison with the XB or PS3 which are more about the graphics and luxury experience (and hence get paired with a good TV / home cinema system).

I think the Wii U will likewise be priced quite cheaply for Nintendo fans. Nowadays everything has a cheap little screen in it and I don't think it'll be too expensive to make this new controller - especially given image quality isn't something their customers demand.

The bulkiness also is not a problem because it's quite lightweight and not many people play on the Wii for more than an hour or two at a time. This wouldn't work for PS3! Presumably in games that require quick actions on a motion sensitive controller, they'll use the wiimote rather than this.

I think Nintendo have had some good ideas with this, and maybe know their market a bit too well.




By AdrianJudd on 6/9/2011 11:14:12 AM , Rating: 2
Every Wii owner I know, including myself has a HDTV, ranging in sizes up to 42"


Nintendos Dreamcast?
By Manch on 6/8/2011 11:16:05 AM , Rating: 2
I remember when Sega came out with the dream cast. It beat the ps2/GC to market by just over a year(I think?) Graphics were better, controller was pretty good, the tiny screen was a nice touch. Then Sony and Nintendo released their consoles and support for it dried up like the desert.

I understand the advantage of being first to market but if that thing isnt beefy enough in terms of performance, then I think it could be Nintendos last console. I hope not.

Nintendos 1st party titles, carried the N64, GC, and now Wii. Other than launch supt that allows game companies to make a quick buck, I dont see Nintendos gravy train keepin on without some serious power in that box. Not to mention, how much are those damn controllers going to be?!

Of course everything right now is speculation and what we saw are all prototypes(remember ps3 boomerang ontroller) so I imagine things will change. Still fun to guess at what's coming.

Nintendo knows they need to not only inovate, but they need to bring the graphics this time around. If Nintendo eventually goes the way of Sega, I hope at leas tthe games will still come.





RE: Nintendos Dreamcast?
By Manch on 6/8/2011 3:41:05 PM , Rating: 2
The other Wii U article says the graphics will be comparable to the 360/PS3. So basically, when MS & Sony release their consoles with controller options to rival Nintendos, the only thing that will keep the system alive is Nintendo itself. I really hope that statement was a simplification and that the graphics will be much better. If not Nintendo will become a software only publisher.


High Motion Games
By RedemptionAD on 6/8/2011 10:28:09 AM , Rating: 3
In a game that requires high motion(Wii Sports), will this controller survive an impact with a TV, another controller, glass bottle? Will it have a strap like the original Wii added later?




By Chaosforce on 6/7/2011 3:48:44 PM , Rating: 2
From what it looks like the controller doesn't have to be used with all games. They even showed pictures of having it being used as a 5th person in a game where its split on the tv with the 4 people with wiimotes and the 5th has there own on the wiiu controller screen.

Its a very....odd approach and im curious as to how it will work out considering i thought the big push was better motion controls.




Backwards compat
By adiposity on 6/7/2011 3:50:45 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Also, for those of you that have a stash of Wii games collecting dust on the shelf, they will also be playable on the Wii U.


And Gamecube games? Just curious, I know the Wii supported Gamecube games.




Shift in Price Focus
By bplewis24 on 6/7/2011 4:22:09 PM , Rating: 2
Typically, the price of the console is one of the most important aspects of the launch. In this case, the price of the controller may be the most important figure. With all of the stuff it's packing (nevermind the debate about the necessity or use of it all), it's not unreasonable to think it could cost well over $100. That, along with console price, may be a determining factor in it's success.




"a 'cross' control pad"
By AstroCreep on 6/7/2011 7:28:30 PM , Rating: 2
Yo Brandon,
Back in the 'hood, we used to call them a "Directional Pad", or a "D-Pad" for short.




Graphics
By gillt021 on 6/7/2011 8:57:00 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
We don't know how powerful this processor is, but the graphics don't really seem to impress at the moment and don't look much different from the current Wii (see game screenshots on the right).


Umm... the HD Zelda screenshot looks pretty impressive to me. Not anything the PS3 or 360 couldn't do but anything at this point is still extremely early anyway.

Also I think most people are missing that the graphics are all created in the console and streamed to the controller. My understanding is that it doesn't have the capabilities of a tablet unless its close to the console. Which is only cool if you consider that when you're playing a game on TV you can switch it to the controller and take it with you to go drop a deuce, might want to cover the camera though.




The controller surprised me
By KoolAidMan1 on 6/7/2011 11:56:27 PM , Rating: 2
I held the controller earlier today. It is surprisingly light and comfortable, not the pig I was expecting. I could totally see being able to play games with it for extended periods of time. Some of the augmented reality stuff that they showed, like a game where you can see the moon in the sky if you pointed the controller up, is something that we've seen with iPads and such but not with a home console yet. Some developer could do something cool with it.

Now the ridiculous name, that's a whole other topic :)




gameboy
By Murloc on 6/8/2011 6:53:46 AM , Rating: 2
they basically give you a gameboy that you can't carry around. Useful.




By Donovan on 6/8/2011 11:28:05 AM , Rating: 2
...unless you've played with a Gameboy Advance link cable on a Gamecube.

I always thought they should have made more games that used this type of feature, so I think it's cool that they're trying to mainstream it on Wii U. It was a niche thing on Gamecube and very few games supported it; one game that did was Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles which used the GBA as a radar map in single player and a character-specific display in multiplayer.




Looks like Wii enhance
By Naviblue on 6/7/11, Rating: -1
RE: Looks like Wii enhance
By phantom505 on 6/7/2011 4:41:32 PM , Rating: 3
Which will be in about 2 weeks when your current one breaks.


RE: Looks like Wii enhance
By jeff834 on 6/7/2011 4:53:38 PM , Rating: 2
Hmmm still using my launch 360, which I have played between 10 and 40 hours a week since I got it on day 1. Never had a problem with the other 360 I have which I use mainly for streaming video. None of my friends have ever had a problem with any of their consoles either, although I do know 1 person who had a RRoD a few years ago and had their console replaced by MS for free. It's silly to say the Wii is better than a 360 because it doesn't have as many technical issues. Each one has their niche. 360s are more for people that enjoy shooters and RPGs and like a good online MP experience, Wiis are more for families, children, and parties.


RE: Looks like Wii enhance
By phantom505 on 6/7/2011 5:01:05 PM , Rating: 2
Someone has to win the lottery. Far too many people I know have a couple to put drinks on and one to play.


By StevoLincolnite on 6/8/2011 12:07:53 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Hmmm still using my launch 360, which I have played between 10 and 40 hours a week since I got it on day 1.


Lucky! I have the 3rd revision Falcon which has failed me 3 times.

But to be honest? It was only really an inconvenience when it failed, the RMA support that Microsoft has is pretty good with the xbox.
Heck they even sent out the box and everything I needed like foam and tape to package it in and send it off.
A couple of weeks later another machine is on my door step.

I'll probably get a Slim console when my current Falcon fails, they are much more reliable and use less power to boot. :)


RE: Looks like Wii enhance
By MrPerez on 6/7/2011 5:09:28 PM , Rating: 2
Thats true 3 years ago, it seems to me your still bitter about something?

Someone give this guy a hug!


RE: Looks like Wii enhance
By phantom505 on 6/7/2011 5:11:29 PM , Rating: 2
I'm bitter about lots of stuff. Just happens I was smart enough to not buy an XBox. The initial marketing of it was enough to make me vomit.


RE: Looks like Wii enhance
By B3an on 6/7/2011 5:49:15 PM , Rating: 2
And the Wii's is any better?? Most annoying TV ads ever.


RE: Looks like Wii enhance
By phantom505 on 6/7/2011 6:07:17 PM , Rating: 1
As I recall there was little need to even have a Wii TV spot. That must have been something that came later that I payed no attention to. Unlike the PS3 or the Xbox they didn't have to convince anyone to buy them.


RE: Looks like Wii enhance
By stm1185 on 6/7/2011 7:38:31 PM , Rating: 2
yeah they only had to convince people to keep playing then and buy 3rd party software, which they failed to do so its on to a new console where 3rd party software might actually be profitable.


RE: Looks like Wii enhance
By TheRequiem on 6/7/2011 4:49:03 PM , Rating: 3
Me too, I'll pass... where's Xbox 3 and PS4? Today already.


RE: Looks like Wii enhance
By phantom505 on 6/7/11, Rating: -1
RE: Looks like Wii enhance
By TheRequiem on 6/7/2011 6:48:13 PM , Rating: 2
Whatever... it'll be sooner then that.


RE: Looks like Wii enhance
By LRonaldHubbs on 6/7/2011 7:37:34 PM , Rating: 2
Maybe you missed the part where Sony said the PS3 is going to last 10 years? I wouldn't get my hopes up about the PS4 just yet.


By StevoLincolnite on 6/8/2011 2:54:37 AM , Rating: 2
When Sony means the PS3 will have a shelf life of 10 years doesn't mean they won't release a new console.
Case in point...
The PS2 launched in the year 2000.
The PS3 launched in the year 2006.

However... Sony still sells PS2 consoles even today after 11 years of being on the shelf.
So it's not hard to believe that next year a new console will launch and the PS3 will continue to be on store shelves along side the PS4.

It doesn't mean Sony goes back on that statement at all.


RE: Looks like Wii enhance
By Manch on 6/8/2011 12:47:45 PM , Rating: 2
Because they've never changed their mind or went back on what they promised? They may have thought that 6 years ago, but if Nintendo, MS are putting out new consoles, bet your @$$ they will have one in the same time frame. But, as the other poster commented,doesnt mean the PS3 will go anywhere.


RE: Looks like Wii enhance
By Naviblue on 6/7/2011 11:14:46 PM , Rating: 3
All my buddies have a Wii, all my buddies stopped paying the Wii, the fad is over.


RE: Looks like Wii enhance
By icanhascpu on 6/7/2011 9:59:10 PM , Rating: 2
You're looking at at least 2 years away.


RE: Looks like Wii enhance
By GuinnessKMF on 6/7/2011 5:11:43 PM , Rating: 2
I too won't be going out of my way to get a new Wii, but Nintendo has pretty much stopped caring about a us, and they're better off for it. Nintendo is after much higher margins, and you can't blame them.

You want games that have blockbuster-esq multi-million dollar budgets that have several year development cycles. You are willing to pay $60 or less for the game (or if you're a real idiot you buy the $100 "collectors" edition with the re-skinned helmet).

Nintendo doesn't want to invest that kind of effort without promise of a hit, they know they can pop out a Metroid, a Zelda, or some other classic and get the gamers to shell out for the system for the one-time play, but they're going to put their efforts into family and party games, games that are simple to develop, have quick pick-up and play mechanics, and encourage purchasing peripherals, and flood the market, and they're going to make obscene profits, just like they did with the Wii.

You and I might bash the Wii for having inferior graphics and game selection, but they're going to the bank as your Mother and your Sister buy the console to play bejeweled.


RE: Looks like Wii enhance
By phantom505 on 6/7/2011 5:39:24 PM , Rating: 2
I don't know, the clip of people using the new controller mounted on top of a Wii gun and being able to look around through the sites to find targets was pretty impressive. Might even require a bit more skill than button mashing and/or camping.


RE: Looks like Wii enhance
By karielash on 6/7/2011 6:53:09 PM , Rating: 2

Yeah they stopped caring about us and decided to come up with a business model that generates income.... funny old world huh!!!


RE: Looks like Wii enhance
By inighthawki on 6/7/2011 6:59:05 PM , Rating: 2
You know, the specs haven't been released, and the one thing that is known (the CPU) is actually looking like a good piece of equipment. Perhaps you should wait till you actually see what nit can do before flailing arms and crying "the graphics suck"


RE: Looks like Wii enhance
By Iaiken on 6/7/2011 7:09:30 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
You have to come out with better graphics than that if you want my money.


Did you even watch the Zelda demo that was done in real time in 1080p? The guys at DICE have already stated it can run the Frostbite 2 engine to their satisfaction so it's got some chew to it.

Next time pay attention to what's actually going on so you don't wind up sounding like a complete jackhole.

Lastly, if you think graphics are all that matter, You are a sad, strange little man, and you have my pity.


RE: Looks like Wii enhance
By cokbun on 6/8/2011 12:34:04 AM , Rating: 2
not everyone wants better graphics, the games are looking great as it is now, some people prefer gameplay,experience,more fun. theres not much variety in games now, theres too much FPSes and RPGs nowadays, and im getting bored no matter how good they look, or cool gimmicks they have.


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