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Price drop helps Sony to move more PS3 consoles -- but not enough to unseat Microsoft's Xbox 360

Research firm NPD group has released its console hardware sales numbers for the month of July. Unsurprisingly, Nintendo continued its domination at the top of the charts, capturing both the first and second spots.

The Wii reclaimed the top spot by selling 425,000 units – up considerably from the 381,800 sold during June. The DS fell back to second place, moving 405,000 units – down from June’s amazing 561,900 units.

Sony took third and fourth spots – but not with the PlayStation 3. Rather, it was the old PS2 at third with 222,000 units and the PSP at fourth with 214,000.

Microsoft placed fifth with its Xbox 360 selling 170,000 units. Contrary to some analyst predictions, the PlayStation 3 could not out-sell the Xbox 360 even with the recent $100 price drop from Sony. It will be interesting to see what effect the Xbox 360 price drop has on sales.

The PlayStation 3 did see strong gains, however, going from selling under 100,000 units a month to 159,000 sold in July.

In addition to occupying the upper echelon of the sales list, Nintendo also had a system at the very bottom. In seventh place was the Game Boy Advance, which managed to sell another 87,000 units. For the very casual gamer, the single-screed Nintendo handheld still has its place.





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Same Old
By mdogs444 on 8/28/2007 9:50:44 AM , Rating: 2
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Microsoft placed fifth with its Xbox 360 selling 170,000 units. Contrary to some analyst predictions, the PlayStation 3 could not out-sell the Xbox 360 even with the recent $100 price drop from Sony. It will be interesting to see what effect the Xbox 360 price drop has on sales.


Same story, different day. I dont own any of the consoles anymore, used to have 360 but now solely PC gamer. I, for one, think that Microsofts sales are going to increase about 25-30% following their price drop, and the PS3 will probably drop back to about 110,000 units now that the initial $500 rush is gone.




RE: Same Old
By mdogs444 on 8/28/2007 9:51:26 AM , Rating: 1
And just for the record, im referring to next months sales figures - not beyond that.


RE: Same Old
By therealnickdanger on 8/28/2007 10:13:31 AM , Rating: 2
By "next month", I assume you mean numbers revealed next month, which will be for August? In which case I agree. Price-drop plus Bioshock and Madden '08 will more than likely propel Microsoft into the top spot for a short time (not including the DS, that is).


RE: Same Old
By mdogs444 on 8/28/2007 10:37:55 AM , Rating: 2
Yes, i am referring to August's numbers released in September.


RE: Same Old
By Samus on 8/28/07, Rating: 0
RE: Same Old
By Murst on 8/28/2007 10:34:36 AM , Rating: 4
Or maybe they were excited about today's Metroid release?


RE: Same Old
By Flunk on 8/28/2007 10:55:56 AM , Rating: 4
In that case, I'll offer you $150 for it.


RE: Same Old
By acer905 on 8/28/2007 11:25:56 AM , Rating: 5
I gotta ask... have you ever played an 8-bit game before? seriously, look at the original Super Mario Bros, which by the way is the greatest selling game of all time, the game that made nintendo... the game that saved the world from the video game crash of 83. Graphics are almost non existant... And the gameplay is probably repeatative in your opinion... but it would seem that people weren't bothered by it


RE: Same Old
By GreenyMP on 8/28/2007 12:08:16 PM , Rating: 2
Samus may be exaggerating, but he makes a valid point. Of the consoles, the Wii may be outselling the rest, but it also sees the least use. According to Nielsen Media Research the Wii is played for the shortest interval AND less frequently than any other modern console (the GameCube is worse).

http://www.nielsenmedia.com/nc/portal/site/Public/...

It may be the perfect console for you if you find yourself spending too much time gaming and are looking to kick the habit.


RE: Same Old
By Murst on 8/28/2007 12:22:36 PM , Rating: 4
quote:
It may be the perfect console for you if you find yourself spending too much time gaming and are looking to kick the habit.


Another point of view would be that people don't want to spend a lot of time gaming, but they want something that can satisfy them for 10-30 minutes.


RE: Same Old
By zinfamous on 8/28/2007 12:39:25 PM , Rating: 5
The way I see it is that the Wii is not being supported by gamers so much, as it is by everyone else--which is a significant achievment. gamers will tatter on about how this game sucks or that console is inferior, yet fail to realize the much larger, and far more significant market that nintendo has successfully tapped into.

Gamers will find it boring b/c they define games in different ways than the rest of the population. the reason people don't play it as much is because many of these owners aren't gamers. "Gaming" isn't their hobby--they go outside, socialize etc. they buy a Wii b/c it's a fun thing to have in the background at a party or to kick back for an hour or so. It is not something they devote income towards or consider their primary hobby.

I'm sure there are plenty of gamers that own and enjoy the Wii as well, but Nintendo succeeded in going out of this market. There is no way that a 360 or PS3 will appeal to casual gamers.

you can complain about their success, but Nintendo will keep smirking their way to the bank.


RE: Same Old
By herrdoktor330 on 8/28/2007 11:25:43 PM , Rating: 2
I concur to a certain extent with what your saying, but the main limitation the Wii has to conquer in the hard core audience is having killer software titles.

The interesting thing that I think may shake things up a bit is Manhunt 2 for Wii. I've played the first one, and aside from the video sequences you couldn't skip, it was an interesting romp as a survival horror / stealth game. The reason I bring it up is if this game ends up being good with compelling gameplay and makes use of the Wii's functionality, it could really drive more 3rd party developers to make titles for Wii. I think the fact that Take 2 / Rockstar is even making a game for Nintendo should be taken seriously. If more companies start taking Wii seriously, play time invested in the system will go up. All it will take is that one game that really sucks the hard core gamers in. Once someone develops a good RPG (or, dare I say an MMORPG), people will really start to flock to Wii.

And god forbid if Rockstar makes a GTA Universe game for Wii.

As far as the power of the console goes, it is irrelevant when compared to what you play on it. Case in point: NES vs SMS. The Sega Master System was capable of more colors and had a faster processor, but didn't have the titles to compete with Nintendo's corral of developers. Another case in point: Intellivision vs Atari 2600. Intellivision had more RAM (albeit a slower processor) and better graphics capabilities, but didn't have access to hot arcade titles like "Missle Command", "Asteroids", "Space Invaders" and... "Pac Man". (And please... no E.T. jokes here.)

The point I'm getting at here is that Nintendo is building a strong installed base. Once (or if) they start releasing blockbuster titles, those games are going to sell like crazy making Nintendo and the developers lots of money. If those titles never come, then the Wii will be the coolest WiFi paperweight money can buy.


RE: Same Old
By Verran on 8/28/2007 1:23:34 PM , Rating: 4
Actually, I find that people who are interested in the Wii are generally the type that occupy vast portions of their waking time with things like "jobs" and "social lives". Your studies show less usage because these are not the type of people to sit in front of a console for 6 hours at a time.

If you live in your parents' basement, are unemployed, and lack any other way of filling your free time, the Wii is not a good choice.


RE: Same Old
By SilthDraeth on 8/28/2007 4:36:02 PM , Rating: 2
This old man who lived behind where I grew up, he bought an original Nintendo, during the SNES days, a little before N64, because he got tired, and could no longer go out fishing, shooting etc, so he got a Nintendo, just for Duck Hunt.


RE: Same Old
By Aerius on 8/28/2007 8:15:25 PM , Rating: 3
Yeah, because Nintendo has never catered to KIDS, and all kids have jobs and a hopping social life when they go cruising in their cars.

I don't know why everybody jumps on anybody that has a negative opinion at all. You like your Wii, great, other people have the right to not like theirs, it's their right. Using personal attacks is not necessary; try using facts.


RE: Same Old
By herrdoktor330 on 8/28/2007 11:28:52 PM , Rating: 2
One more interesting personal fact about my Wii experience. There's a bar in my neighborhood that has one of these things hooked up to a projector so the patrons can play Wii Sports on a very huge screen. It's the coolest thing ever. It makes me want to get my own controller and drink there more.

... anyway... continue.


RE: Same Old
By psyph3r on 8/28/2007 7:12:03 PM , Rating: 2
have you thought about buying a game? man you must not be trying too hard. I have 12 games for my wii. I play them all the time. not to mention my 25 gamecube games that also work...not to mention the endless old console games. Granted, I have to play a bloody mindless fps on the on a real PC(not 360), but the wii is fun and relaxing. Makes you smile at the end of a hard days work, and girls loOove to play. I guess I see why your's doesn't get turned on.

What's amazing is they are just now getting major developer support. Let the games flow!:)


RE: Same Old
By Micronite on 8/28/2007 10:17:04 AM , Rating: 2
Also consider that Halo3 will be released soon.
My colleagues and I have a setup of 3 360's and 2 XBox1's for Halo2 right now. When Halo3 is released, we're buying 2 more 360's to replace the old XBox1's. I assume several Halo faithfuls are in the same boat.


surprising PS3 numbers
By irev210 on 8/28/2007 9:59:46 AM , Rating: 2
Rather suprising to say the least.

At 499, the PS3 is an excellent value... esp once you pile in all the bluray movies, etc that they are offering for free.

The free online gameplay is worth 60 bucks a year compared to microsoft. I own both, and am very happy with the PS3. Only advantage x360 has is the media center extender support.




RE: surprising PS3 numbers
By Micronite on 8/28/2007 10:12:20 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Only advantage x360 has is the media center extender support.

While your comment about this being the only advantage is certainly disputable, I'd say the Media Center Extender is a huge benefit to the XBox360. Both my parents and my in-laws have approached me recently about getting all their DVDs, music, etc... on a PC and easily accessible to their multiple TV's. Since the XBox360 is relatively cheap, requires very little maintainance, is difficult to mess up, and is simple to setup, it will be hard to do anything else.


RE: surprising PS3 numbers
By Spivonious on 8/28/2007 10:15:47 AM , Rating: 4
Hence the reason why the new Windows Home Server is going to be wildly successful. I'd love to have the "extending" capabilities but I can't bring myself to buy a 360 because I'd almost never play the games.


RE: surprising PS3 numbers
By encryptkeeper on 8/28/2007 11:54:51 AM , Rating: 3
Window's Home Server is a great idea, but I just don't see MS being able to market it effectively to consumers. Dell and Compaq are really going to have to believe in it and market it like crazy for the public to even bat an eye at HS.


RE: surprising PS3 numbers
By TomZ on 8/28/2007 5:35:42 PM , Rating: 2
Huh? WHS is a no-brainer to market, because the benefits are immediately obvious to anybody who has done anything with digital media at home. These benefits would be easy to explain in a 30-second TV ad, for example. I think people will "get it."


RE: surprising PS3 numbers
By encryptkeeper on 8/29/2007 9:45:18 AM , Rating: 2
Sure, the idea behind it is wonderful, but essentially WHS is Media Center with a few new features here and there. The biggest addition is that you can access your files remotely (which you can already do with a little know how) and securely. I just don't see a very good market of people that are sitting around that WANT to do this that haven't already figured out how to do it.


RE: surprising PS3 numbers
By FITCamaro on 8/28/2007 12:34:01 PM , Rating: 3
13 months of play on Xbox Live is $45.

And the 360s online offerings vs. the PS3s isn't even close. Sony's might be free, but its that way for a reason. The biggest advantage Microsoft has is its tightly integrated, well designed online system.


RE: surprising PS3 numbers
By Kefner on 8/28/2007 1:27:08 PM , Rating: 2
And it is not hard to get it for even less. I bought a Xbox Live Card,(new in package) off Ebay for 30 bucks. It was a 12 month + 1. Then I got a 2 one month free cards with my Halo 2 and Shadowrun (for the PC), which I added, and now have 15 months for 30. Now I know not everyone is going to have the free month cards, but you can pick up the 13 month cards on ebay in that 30 dollar range.


Old news
By DingieM on 8/28/2007 11:09:10 AM , Rating: 2
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RE: Old news
By walk2k on 8/28/07, Rating: 0
RE: Old news
By rlandess on 8/28/2007 12:06:01 PM , Rating: 2
You should go out and see how many stores actually have Wiis in stock, or at least compare the numbers to PS3/360s. In my area most stores are still sold out.


RE: Old news
By saiga6360 on 8/28/2007 12:21:20 PM , Rating: 5
Do you happen to live in the big gaping hole in the Universe?


RE: Old news
By Murst on 8/28/2007 12:24:15 PM , Rating: 3
rofl... man, sometimes I really wish I could rate up once I've posted!


RE: Old news
By mars777 on 8/28/2007 5:29:02 PM , Rating: 2
Maybe he lives in Croatia.
But Croatia can at most be a small gaping hole in the world :P
Here nobody has the Wii, i guess casual gaming is dead here.


Some Thoughts
By JasonMick (blog) on 8/28/2007 10:12:42 AM , Rating: 2
The Wii should continue to see some strong sales, as a couple good games are finally getting released, with the release of Mario Strikers and Metroid Prime corruption. I own a Wii and it is a ton of fun, but I agree with the critics that more good games need to come out. I always am disappointed when I read game mags and see "console: Xbox 360 and PS3"! How can game developers neglect this huge market?

As to the others, PSP sales have really shown a pleasant increase. Just a casual observation, but I noticed in season 3 of House, House switched from playing Gameboy Advance to playing a PSP. I guess it is a pop culture sign that while Gameboy remains king, the PSP is now a serious mainstream contender. Sony can be happy about that at least.




RE: Some Thoughts
By Spivonious on 8/28/07, Rating: 0
RE: Some Thoughts
By therealnickdanger on 8/28/2007 12:41:21 PM , Rating: 3
Isn't the definition of pop-culture being paid for in advance by corporations? :O


RE: Some Thoughts
By Samus on 8/28/2007 10:18:40 AM , Rating: 1
Because almost nothing will port to the Wii that's developed for XBOX360 or PS3. Even many PS2 games don't port. There are performance issues, control issues, and Nintendo is charging more than anyone else for licensing at $8 bucks, although their devkits are cheapest (they are basically Gamecube devkits)


RE: Some Thoughts
By wallijonn on 8/28/2007 3:36:14 PM , Rating: 2
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Even many PS2 games don't port. There are performance issues, control issues


Is the reason why they don't port because of the programming? Even the PS3 has a OpenGL layer, just as the 360 probably plays both OpenGL and DX. Sony probably has their own language.

I've played Tomb Raider: Legends on both the PS2 and the GC, the major differences: GC has a tighter camera view angle, cannot do progressive scan, missing many cinematics, the lighting effects are many times muted, the music is more relaxed & better suited to exploration. On the other hand the GC version has Lara having smoother lines while the PS2, even while in wide screen progressive has the 'jigglies'.

We all know that the last Resident Evil game looked better on the GC than on the PS2. Did the Wii version have cinematics, better sound, wide screen progressive?

I think many companies could port their games over. What I'd like to see is many of their older games updated for the Wii (like Tomb Raider: Anniversary did). Then their costs would be minimal.

No, I would not like 360's Bomberman or PS2's Tetris ported over. But Tetris will soon be on the 360, PS3 and the Wii. I'd like to see the better games from both systems (XBox, PS2) updated for the Wii. Just like they did with Resident Evil 4.


RE: Some Thoughts
By encryptkeeper on 8/28/2007 11:51:15 AM , Rating: 2
They're not ignoring it, we just haven't heard about the games yet. The Wii is almost a year old, and devs are seeing it's not some piss in the wind the MS and Sony fanboys wanted it to be. It's a serious console, and devs will take some time because that's where the money is. They may not be hardcore games like Bioshock (which isn't to say anything bad about Bioshock) or something like that but they'll be something brand new. Wii Fit? Would you even CONSIDER the idea of some kind of 360 Fit? Hell no...


RE: Some Thoughts
By CZroe on 8/28/2007 9:45:41 PM , Rating: 2
You must not watch House M.D. much (yes, I know the name was officially changed to just "House"). ;)

In previous seasons, he had Metroid Zero Mission on a GBA SP, Metroid Prime Hunters First Hunt on a DS ("phat"), and one of the ATV Offroad games on a PSP. That's why it was totally weird for that autistic kid to give him a PSP in season 3's "Lines in the Sand." I know it was a behavioral break-through, but he should have discouraged it because he already owned one! Oh, and the parents are just going to have to buy another; it's well known that video games are an excellent tool to help autistic children concentrate and his parents will need that tool.

It reflects nothing. House has a menagerie of distractions when he needs to think differently. GBA SP, DS, PSP, etc, are just a few of many.


Is this trend still news?
By soulbabel on 8/28/2007 10:15:32 AM , Rating: 4
They should just write a story when Wii finally isn't selling well. That would prevent the weekly lame console-war comments that always seem to follow these types of articles.




RE: Is this trend still news?
By Bioniccrackmonk on 8/28/2007 10:41:36 AM , Rating: 2
Thank, if I could rate you up I would. Every month we see just about teh same sales figures and then the fan boyism begins about librarys and which console is better and blah blah blah. Nive to see everyone still has their own opinion every month.


RE: Is this trend still news?
By michal1980 on 8/28/07, Rating: 0
RE: Is this trend still news?
By Murst on 8/28/2007 12:09:16 PM , Rating: 2
Its no secret that the PS3 is selling better in europe and japan (when compared to the 360), but where are you finding world-wide numbers? Also, are you referring to June? July? Total?


RE: Is this trend still news?
By michal1980 on 8/28/07, Rating: 0
Not bad
By Murst on 8/28/2007 10:08:46 AM , Rating: 3
Although Sony didn't outsell the 360, they're still probably pretty happy considering they have a more expensive console, with a lot less good games, selling almost as much as the 360.

MS is still in very good position, and they must be excited that they're still outselling Sony before the 360 price drop.




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By neothe0ne on 8/28/2007 4:12:30 PM , Rating: 3
I hate to be first to point out a typo:

the single- screed Nintendo handheld still has its place.

In other news, I'm eagerly awaiting my own Wii this holiday season... I haven't looked it up yet, but Metroid Prime 3 is one of the system sellers for me.




Always fun to read the comments
By ET on 8/29/2007 9:04:48 AM , Rating: 2
I just read this news item because I figured there'd be some bashing, which of course there was. :)

And on another subject, I'd like to complain about Metroid 3 release date being late October for the PAL version. Why do we have to wait 2 months more than NTSC people for the most exciting game on the Wii?




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