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Brandon Hill (Blog) - July 27, 2006 1:48 AM
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Nikon Europe slips up and leaks images of the upcoming D80

Last week, DailyTech brought you news that Nikon was releasing a new 10.2MP digital SLR that was set to presumably replace the D70/D70s. Well true to form with just about any soon to be released product, images have been leaked onto the web of the new Nikon D80. This time, however, the leak came from Nikon themselves -- Nikon Europe to be exact.

There are no other new details to bring to your attention as of yet, but we're sure that more leaks will come through before the official launch date.

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K-10D
By proamerica on 7/28/2006 2:00:50 AM , Rating: 2
Pentax is releasing a new DSLR. Its a much more interesting camera than Nikon or Canon equivalents IMHO. For one thing it has anti-shake built into the body which means you don't have to spend as much cash on lenses. Pentax has some of the best lenses in the world based on sheer optical performance but they lack modern features such as silent AF and stabilization... This new body will fix the stabilization needs.

Whether you have a D80 or a D200 you will still have to pay the same money for the quality glass with VR (vibration reduction for Nikon). Nice thing about the new Pentax DSLR is that you can use the same lenses as before and still get the updated performance features.

One misconception from people new to DSLR's is that the camera body is assigned more value. In reality the gems of any camera system are the lenses. The lenses are where the biggest dollars get spent. So there are a lot of advantages to putting features in the Camera body as opposed to a lens. Because its easy to go out and buy a new body to get the latest features but new lenses put a considerably larger dent in the wallet.

Plus if you care about sheer optical quality Pentax makes a small Limited series of lenses.

Just a little alternative information for a world largely dominated by talk of Canon and Nikon. Yes, there is still a little camera company called Pentax who was once the Canon of the world and still makes superb lenses equal to Canon with regard to optical quality.




RE: K-10D
By some1whoknows on 7/28/2006 2:28:18 AM , Rating: 2
Having VR on the camera is a really good idea because it saves you money. If the new Nikon doesn't have it it'll be a shame because quite a few others are doing it now (Sony Alpha). I didn't see a button for VR on the Nikon but it could be under the connection ports on the left side of the camera... Maybe.

Pentax used to make some really good SLR's. Until I went to digital I only ever bought Pentax and they were great but once digital came along I had to reconsider because at first Pentax had no DSLR. Over the past couple of years Pentax have attempted to make some but with very little success. I really hope the new ones are better build quality as the old ones could not comapre to Nikon but then neither could Canon in the low end.

You point about Optics being important is fair but not unique to Pentax.

Alternative info is great but this is a post about Nikon, not cameras in general. Oh and there are 2 new Pentax cameras coming out: K100D and K110D


By Cunthor01 on 7/29/2006 2:26:33 AM , Rating: 2
Rumor has it that Nikon will come up with VR kit lenses D80 (if its D80 indeed) and D50's sucessor. So 18-70 VR, 18-55 VR and most likely the cheapy 70-300 VR. Of course those are rumors, but we can only wait until Photokina next month and find out.

Oh, and see if you can go to a wedding or a portrait session with a Sony camera, and see if your clients laugh at you.


RE: K-10D
By ronster on 7/28/2006 2:46:58 AM , Rating: 2
I'm another ex-Pentax SLR user who now uses Canon DSLR kit.

Your point about anti-shake mechanisms negating the need to spend the cash on lenses is nonsense. Yes technology like Canon's Image Stabilisation adds to the cost of the lens. However, its not on all their lenses, is arguably largely unnecessary on < 200mm and is pretty much irrelevant in good light conditions. A cheap crap lens is still a cheap crap lens with or without IS. A good quality lens with good optics is going to cost you decent money with or without IS.

And seriously I wish Pentax well, I still have my ME Super 35mm in a drawer somewhere at home.


RE: K-10D
By some1whoknows on 7/28/2006 3:18:29 AM , Rating: 2
Did I say that you wouldn't need to spend cash on expensive lenses?.. No, I simply said it would save you money. I also never stated that IS (VR) is needed all the time and on every lens.

For example there are 2 versions of the CANON 70-200mm F2.8 L lens. One with IS and one without it that is cheaper, thus it would save you money. The Nikon version of the 70-200mm Without VR and AF-S is less than half the price, thus it would be loads of money. In fact I could buy a D70 with the difference so please read things properly.


RE: K-10D
By proamerica on 7/28/2006 5:37:27 AM , Rating: 2
My original comment regarding money spent on lenses had to do with features being packed into modern lenses. For me personally I think a lense should focus light and features should be constrained to the body as much as possible. This makes it MUCH easier to upgrade those features as they become available.

My Sister and Dad both have Rebel XT 350's and they both have IS lenses, they work fantastically and even the fast 50mm benefits hugely from IS when shooting indoors.

But you have to admit there is room for improvement with the various forms of IS. I know Nikon is on VR 2.0 already. If you have a bunch of thousand dollar lenses that are VR 1.0, you are SOL.

Where as with Pentax your ten thousand dollar lens is upgraded by an 800 dollar body...

Thats how I was thinking that would work in favor of Pentax.

Since Nikon and Canon both have a large range of Lenses with some form IS or VR as the case may be I doubt we will see a body from them that has the feature built into it.


RE: K-10D
By ronster on 7/28/2006 7:15:18 AM , Rating: 2
Will be interesting to see the IS implementation then. The lens based IS common now is obivously optically based. I presume to move it into the camera body would mean its software based correction like you currently get in some high-end camcorders.


RE: K-10D
By some1whoknows on 7/28/2006 3:00:56 PM , Rating: 2
I can tell you that the system Sony will use on the Alpha DSLR (which is probably taken from the Minolta 7D moves the sensor itself to cope with the camera shake. I'm not sure a software solution would work for a DLSR. Anyone know the answer to that? sounds interesting to me.


Wow
By rrsurfer1 on 7/27/2006 8:08:35 AM , Rating: 1
That CCD is GIANT.




RE: Wow
By TomZ on 7/27/2006 8:18:24 AM , Rating: 3
I don't think you can see the CCD in photo #2. Normally you would be seeing into the viewfinder because of the mirror, unless the mirror is locked up. I would also be really surprised if the CCD was anything different than the one used in the D200.

...or did you mean the LCD? The LCD sure is huge on that model, which is nice.


RE: Wow
By danidentity on 7/27/2006 12:25:04 PM , Rating: 2
In picture 2 you're definitely looking at the mirror.


RE: Wow
By chucky2 on 7/27/2006 1:00:48 PM , Rating: 2
It'll be regular Nikon DX...no way is Nikon going to go full size CCD with the intro of a N80...they'd do it with one of their pro bodies first...

Hmmm...I wonder if I should trade in my D70 now and bid my time for the D80...

...then again, if they bumped MP at the expense of noise, no thanks...

One thing I hope this had: Lower ISO settings than 200. I wish my D70 could do ISO 100 or even 50... :(

Chuck


RE: Wow
By some1whoknows on 7/27/2006 2:35:30 PM , Rating: 2
I just bought the D200, which is fantastic, and that goes down to ISO 100. The sensor is almost deffinitely the same as the D200 so it should be the same ISO... maybe. You are right, ISo 50 would be great for shots where you want a low shutter speed, like water pictures.

I personally would say the upgrade is never worth while for mp counts alone, expecially 6-10, it sounds a lot more than it actually is. Since the sensor is no bigger you wont get any more light and that's the biggest factor, that and the glass you put on it. If you have some money just go and buy a decent lens.


RE: Wow
By bhigh on 7/27/2006 1:48:32 PM , Rating: 2
Nikon uses the DX format CCD in all their D-SLR cameras. The size would be the same as the D70, D100, D200, etc.


RE: Wow
By crazydrummer4562 on 7/31/2006 1:05:24 AM , Rating: 2
uh no, it's just APS-C, same as most other non full-frame SLRs.


Another DSLR
By jodhas on 7/27/2006 5:15:52 AM , Rating: 3
Another high end DSLR means that the current "entry" level SLR are more within my grasp.

I remember when I paid $499 for my 2.1 MP Sony.... uhh...




RE: Another DSLR
By ksherman on 7/27/2006 7:15:04 AM , Rating: 2
I agree!

My heart still sings for a Canon Digital Rebel XT...



RE: Another DSLR
By Vertigo101 on 7/27/2006 10:34:44 AM , Rating: 2
Seconded. The XT and some L-series lenses would make me a happy camper.


RE: Another DSLR
By TomZ on 7/27/06, Rating: 0
RE: Another DSLR
By creathir on 7/27/2006 11:15:03 AM , Rating: 2
I believe they were just commenting on how they would like a Digital Rebel. The camera offerings from Nikon/Canon are just about the same, the key difference being which lense system the other uses. Both camera systems offer SUPERB picture quality, so it really comes down to preference (or if you already have one brand of lenses for a film SLR)

I personally would take either a Nikon or a Canon Digital SLR...

- Creathir


RE: Another DSLR
By beemercer on 7/28/2006 2:34:47 PM , Rating: 2
I second that, I would be quite happy with either.


RE: Another DSLR
By ohnnyj on 7/27/2006 2:37:30 PM , Rating: 2
You won't be disappointed.


Click to enlarge
By SimonB on 7/27/2006 7:48:19 AM , Rating: 2
Hmmm, that's really worth doing....




RE: Click to enlarge
By AppaYipYip on 7/27/2006 8:26:35 AM , Rating: 2
Yeah, don't you love it? DailyTech does that often. They enjoy toying with us.


RE: Click to enlarge
By TomZ on 7/27/2006 8:32:24 AM , Rating: 2
To be fair, the images are different sizes. For photo #1, the original is 300x227 and the enlarged is 350x260.

Remember, DT didn't produce the enlarged images - they just posted them as they got them, and then they scaled them down to a standard size (probably 300 pixels) for display on the news page.


RE: Click to enlarge
By SilthDraeth on 7/27/2006 9:35:23 AM , Rating: 2
I would have to agree with the original poster. Sometimes I see a click to enlarge, and it gives me a smaller picture.

I am not sure if I have encountered that specifically at DailyTech, but I have experienced it.

It always makes me chuckle.


Interesting Features
By some1whoknows on 7/27/2006 4:30:57 PM , Rating: 3
If these images are real, which they problably are, Nikon will be happy that their 13 days and counting marketing has been slightly spoiled. From what I can see in these pics the differences from the D70 seems to be:

Smaller size (closer to the D50)
A function button (D2/D200)
A 2.5" screen (D2/D200)
SD memory card slot (D50)
Rubber seals on the connector covers (D2/D200)
Bracketing button removed (? to the menu maybe)
Delete button moved to opposite corner (D2/D200)
Diopter dial instead of slide (D2/D200)
Power switch with light (D2/D200)
AF button near power switch (New)
Strange hole to the left of the lens mount (? no idea)

Hopefully the battery will be compatible with some of the others in the range unlike the D200.

The 10.2mp sensor is probably the same as the D200, a sensor made by Sony and what is that other 10mp DSLR coming out soon that the D80 seems to competing with?.. Oh yes it's the Sony Alpha... Ooo Sony WILL be pleased ;P. Dont worry Sony, you still have VR on the camera body, I can't see it on the Nikon =)




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