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I talk with Newegg's Bernard Luthi about its Black Friday/Cyber Monday sales and its efforts to expands its customer base

Most of DailyTech's readers are familiar with Newegg. At some point since the company's inception in 2001, you've most likely bought a stick of memory, a USB flash drive, an LCD monitor, or maybe a wireless router from the online retailer. The company grew fast and furiously thanks to its competitive prices, fast shipping, and customer service and managed to rack up $1.9 billion USD in sales last year.

Given the financial times that we find ourselves in today, I wanted to talk with a representative from Newegg to get an idea of how the company fared during this year's Black Friday and Cyber Monday sales periods. Luckily, Newegg Vice President of Merchandising and marketing Bernard Luthi was able to shed some light on the company’s holiday sales.

First of all, Newegg runs a very lean business. According to Luthi, Newegg has just 2,000 employees to cover its operations in the United States, Canada, and China. The low overhead allows Newegg to offer lower prices -- even when taking into account shipping cost -- than traditional retailers.

While many other traditional brick and mortar retailers are having trouble increasing or even maintaining last year's pace with sales growth, Newegg experienced a 193% increase in orders placed during Black Friday year-over-year and a 169% increase in sales year-over-year. While not as impressive as the gains during Black Friday, Newegg's Cyber Monday orders placed and sales numbers were also up in the double digits.

When asked what allowed Newegg to witness such growth, Luthi responded that "customers are more comfortable shopping online" in today's economic climate. Truth be told, not many tech-oriented people want to be bothered with battling soccer moms and long lines at the mall and this group has long sought refuge in online sales during the holidays. However, according to Luthi, more and more “regular” consumers are being drawn to online sites like Newegg to fulfill their shopping needs.

Speaking to those regular consumers, Newegg has over the past three years branched out to include more consumer electronics offerings into is online portfolio with everything ranging from game consoles to settop Blu-ray players to large flat-panel TVs. That business has been big for Newegg and Luthi says that his company will continue to expand its small and large appliances categories to cater to “regular” customers and not just its “hardcore” enthusiast base.

Luthi points out that some of its more non-traditional offerings – that is, compared to what regular Newegg shoppers are used to seeing -- as refrigerators, washers and dryers, and other large appliance play up on this effort to market to a broader audience.

But in the end, Luthi wanted to emphasize that Newegg counts on three pillars to ensure it success and continue its growth into the foreseeable future, 1) Offer a depth and breadth of product which are priced right, 2) Offer fast and reliable shipping to customers, and 3) Provide great customer service along with customer-generated product reviews to make the buying experience a pleasant one.

Newegg will also look to its operations in China and Canada to grow its base and add to its bottom line.

I’d like to thank Bernard Luthi for this time to chat with DailyTech and if you readers have any questions/concerns that you’d like to address to Newegg, feel free to add them to the comments section.



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User "reviews"
By therealnickdanger on 12/22/2008 12:36:00 PM , Rating: 5
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3) Provide great customer service along with customer-generated product reviews to make the buying experience a pleasant one.

I like that the reviews state whether the reviewer had actually purchased the item or not, and I especially love the "manufacturer response", but what I hate is when people who didn't buy the item comment on it in order to just give it a negative or positive rating.

I think that, by default, your reviews (and subsequent product ratings) should be limited to only users that purchased the item from Newegg. Distinguish between reviews and comments based solely on whether they purchased the item from you or not.




RE: User "reviews"
By UNHchabo on 12/22/2008 3:10:18 PM , Rating: 4
On the reviews page of a product, you can check a box to filter out any non-purchaser reviews. That doesn't change the overall ratings, but going through that page you can get a general idea of what owners think.


RE: User "reviews"
By therealnickdanger on 12/22/2008 5:25:17 PM , Rating: 2
Right, but in the end the non-purchaser's rating of the product still affects its ranking overall. I'm saying that only customers who bought the product on the site should be able to write a review and only their rankings should count toward the overall rating of the product. Other comments should be off by default and be optional to view.

Here are some examples of non-purchaser "reviews" from just the first page of this OCZ memory I selected at random:

quote:
2/5 Eggs - Do not buy
Pros: Looks cool
Cons: Will not get up to 1066 on EP43-DS3L
Friend bought same product with me and his were DOA.

quote:
1/5 Eggs - OCZ rebates lie
Pros: it works
Cons: never trust OCZ rebates they lie to you. i bought this and sent it in with the UPC and the form a month later they said i never sent in the UPC. They just want to steal you money never buy if u think the rebate looks good.


RE: User "reviews"
By neothe0ne on 12/22/2008 10:02:19 PM , Rating: 3
I don't see what the problem with those two reviews are. Any educated customer is not going to just look at a rating out of 5 stars and say, "I want this because it has a 4 star average." They're going to read reviews to know if they're going to get what's promised... and in those two cases, the customers are letting others know they did NOT get what was advertised.


RE: User "reviews"
By mindless1 on 12/29/2008 3:12:42 PM , Rating: 2
You're overlooking three things.

1) Regardless of where someone bought the product, if it is indeed the same product then the review should be held as equally valid.

2) I, and I expect others as well, have bought things from newegg and left reviews that did not have the "This user purchased this item from Newegg" text put on the review, so some of those reviews you discount are in fact from purchases made at Newegg.

3) People who are technically or otherwise incompetent, and as a result can't use the product or didn't buy the right thing to meet their expectations, also buy from Newegg and may leave inappropriate reviews as a result.

The best way to weed through reviews is to reject any that don't cover specific details most relevant to the type of product it is and how it contrasts with typical alternatives products, since that shows better understanding of the product regardless of what the person self-proclaimed themselves to be (let's face it, the majority of people claiming "Tech Level: High" are not accurately representing themselves).


RE: User "reviews"
By Shmak on 1/16/2009 4:35:41 PM , Rating: 2
Most people who review a product fall into the obvious categories of "love it" or "hate it" because these are the situations where people are most likely motivated to actually review something they bought. However, its a fact that people are prone to rationalize their purchase unless they've had a terrible experience with the product. Therefore, most products with average performance receive better than average reviews.

People who have not purchased may still offer good advice. Those that fall into the obvious marketing scams of Intel's "Extreme" line or Monster's ridiculous cable prices are stupid enough to buy them to begin with; how are they fit to tell others what to buy?


NewEgg is not price-competitive in Canada
By BernardP on 12/22/2008 10:58:17 AM , Rating: 2
A a Canadian, I was glad to see NewEgg finally get into this market. Unfortunately, they have adopted a model similar to TigerDirect.com/TigerDirect.ca

They are shipping from the US, thus delivery costs are higher than their canadian competitors (eg: NCIX.com, DirectCanada.com)

They also subject all sales to provincial sales taxes, while the above canadian e-tailers charge no provincial sales taxes for deliveries outside British Columbia.

In addition, for unexplainable reason, NewEgg.ca is often unable to offer Canadian mail-in rebates that are offered by their competitors.

What remains is NewEgg's wider product availability.

To remedy this, NewEgg has to set up a virtual canadian warehouse through Canada Post, as Amazon.com/Amazon.ca has done.




By DASQ on 12/22/2008 12:02:54 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah the prices of .ca are pretty awful actually, can't even beat some smaller Canadian retailers.


RE: NewEgg is not price-competitive in Canada
By cochy on 12/22/2008 12:52:13 PM , Rating: 2
Yes they do need a warehouse here. How exactly does a "virtual" warehouse work?


RE: NewEgg is not price-competitive in Canada
By BernardP on 12/22/2008 3:00:48 PM , Rating: 2
I don't know all the details but I know that Canada Post acts as an agent. They set up a canadian point-of-entry to receive merchandise from the US parent company. No retail sales tax is payable at this point. After this step, provincial sales tax apply only when the item is shipped outside the province where the point-of-entry is located.

Canada Post also take care of all duties. They thus increase their delivery business, along with Purolator which they also own.


By cochy on 12/22/2008 3:32:09 PM , Rating: 2
Sounds like a good idea. At least for us. Wonder how much extra overhead Newegg would incur. I"m sure they have a pretty sweet deal set up with UPS.


Online is where it's at
By bighairycamel on 12/22/2008 11:22:15 AM , Rating: 4
quote:
When asked what allowed Newegg to witness such growth, Luthi responded that "customers are more comfortable shopping online" in today's economic climate.

Aside from the obvious price benefit, here is a list of other reason I think shopping online at e-tailers like Newegg is better...

- More merchandise: How many different brands of say, routers, can you find online as opposed to going into Best Buy? There is no such thing as a hard-to-find item if you know what you're looking for.

- Better product research: You can see all the detailed specs on a TV or PC for example, as opposed to the limited specs you get to see on the price tag at a store. Also you can read product reviews from other shoppers who more than likely have more product knowledge than the piss-poor sales reps who just want to sell you a marked up pile of crap.

- No crowds: Like Brandon mentioned in the article, you don't have to worry about get trampled to death by soccer moms and stepford wives, or worry about fighting for parking spaces.

- Security: With all the security checks in place at online retailers, you have a lot less to worry about when you use your credit card. You don't have to worry about leaving it behind by accident, dropping it or having it stolen.

- Comfort: I can shop in the comfort of my easy chair intead of walking around in the bitter-arse cold all day.




RE: Online is where it's at
By G2cool on 12/22/2008 12:50:22 PM , Rating: 5
And a couple more...

-No Nagging Help: You're not asked if you need help every 2 minutes/feet.

-One Price: You don't risk reading one price and getting another at checkout.

-No More Christmas Music: You have complete control over the radio while you shop.

-Shop In Your Underwear: And you won't risk going to jail!


While I still shop at the Egg...
By Noya on 12/23/2008 8:49:41 AM , Rating: 3
...I don't think their prices are the best anymore and the shipping has slipped to the bottom of the hill since they switched from FedEx to UPS. If I select the default shipping, I have to place an order Sunday night or very early Monday to receive the items that week. I'm only one state away and within 40 miles of an international airport.

I know their customer service is supposed to be better than the rest, but I've RMA'd once to Newegg and to a speaker store on eBay and the process was identical.

I don't know if other sites use the automatic price adjuster thing, but I find it appalling. When I decide to buy some hardware, I like to spend 10 or 20 minutes Googling legitimate reviews and other specs that Newegg lacks. And in that time frame, it's possible for the price of an item to fluctuate wildly depending on consumer interest/sales (does it change on views or actual sales?). Good for newegg, bad for you and me.

And then of course the user reviews. Do you remember in grade school when the teacher would call on students to read out loud and there was always some kid who could barely read and write...yes, that's how annoying most of the user reviews are. Not to mention when someone claims a high tech level and they have less knowledge than the typical Best Buy employee.

The only thing that really stands out about Newegg is the website interface, which is still the best.

As for Black Friday: Microsoft Live Cashback. It was 30% off on eBay, plus several stores (mwave, buy, zzf, etc) sell on eBay and offered invoices from their websites, validating mail in rebates. There were some great deals- 4870 1gb @ $165-170, gtx260 core 216 @ $175, gtx280 @ $250, e8400 @ $119 and tons more.




By brightstar on 12/25/2008 11:27:20 AM , Rating: 2
Thanks. Mine, and others thoughts exactly. The only people that don't recognize this are young kids (like my co-worker) who state they have shopped at the Egg since time began, (I've never understood this thought pattern) and attach that.. odd mystical reverence to whatever they deem as "theirs. I too have noted that the CS is nothing special, and in one case quite rude, but, price adjusting is as old as time and won't go away any time soon. I'm also glad to see people are still giving the Egg heck over that horrid shipping deal with UPS.. and there forums could use a good cleansing also, do they sell Troll Spray?


sales tax
By tigen on 12/22/2008 5:39:06 PM , Rating: 2
Newegg is pretty good but in CA they charge sales tax. Therefore, usually I find better deals at places like amazon. Their free shipping also helps. Newegg is fast though.

Random rant: I hate mail-in rebates and so many tech "deals" are based on those stupid things. They should just be banned by the government since they're basically designed to defraud people who forget or incorrectly jump through the hoops, and you are forced to cut holes in your packaging.




Sadly not International orders
By Nehemoth on 12/22/2008 9:17:15 PM , Rating: 2
3 years or more and still we don't have international orders allowed, I just want to use my Non-inside USA issue credit card, the shipping would be inside USA and for me that should be amazing but newegg don't know what they're execting to go for it.




Quality company
By knowom on 12/24/2008 10:40:28 AM , Rating: 2
Good prices, customer service, and the user reviews on products are what keep me coming back to newegg on a regular basis.




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