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Nearly as many smart phone buyers now want an Android phone as want an iPhone.

Android has posted incredible growth since last year.

Google's OS also rivals the iPhone's iOS in satisfaction these days, as well.  (Source: (All graphs in this article are from Changewave))
Android is winning consumers' hearts, has now pulled neck-and-neck with Apple

When the iPhone 4 went on sale people were wildly enthusiastic after hearing about the stunning new display, inclusion of video chat, and a host of other new features at Steve Jobs' keynote introduction of the device.  As the phone launched with a slew of quality issues including antenna and proximity sensor problems and began to face superior hardware Android competitors, that enthusiasm has been waning.

According to a new study by ChangeWave, the number of smart phone buyers  intending to buy an iPhone dropped from 50 percent in June to 38 percent in September.  Meanwhile Google Android surged from 30 percent to 37 percent, pulling roughly into a tie with the Cupertino gadget maker.

The news is a huge victory for Android, which two years ago was virtually unknown, with only 1 percent of smart phone buyers in June 2008 saying they wanted an Android handset.

Google is also doing well in satisfaction.  While Apple's fans have long been unquestioningly loyal, leading to sky-high satisfaction numbers even when the company's products have problems, Google is seeing increasing enthusiasm among its customers as well.  Apple's smart phone OS ranked first with a 74 percent customer satisfaction rate, while Google's Android was close behind with a 65 percent satisfaction rate. 

Both operating systems are far ahead of Palm OS/webOS (32 percent) and RIM OS (31 percent) (commonly found on BlackBerry handsets).  And Windows Mobile showed a rock-bottom 24 percent satisfaction rate, showcasing how desperate the company needs its new Windows Phone 7 OS.

Overall the ChangeWave study shows no real major surprises.  Rather, it's just one more measure that shows that Android is surging towards surpassing Apple (and competitors RIM and Symbian) as the most popular and best-selling smart phone in the world.


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Development
By cjohnson2136 on 10/1/2010 12:20:52 PM , Rating: 5
This is just my opinion but I like developing apps for Win 7 more then Android. But thats only cause I dont fully know java yet lol. It is fun ahving a class that teahces us how to devleop for these different types of phones though




RE: Development
By Tony Swash on 10/1/10, Rating: -1
RE: Development
By Gio6518 on 10/1/2010 12:43:51 PM , Rating: 5
more purely speculative BS that you keep posting

truth:

http://community.nasdaq.com/News/2010-09/app-devel...


RE: Development
By cjohnson2136 on 10/1/2010 1:08:37 PM , Rating: 2
The issue with this is no matter what your dealing with there will always be someone to pirate. And I am talking as a student not as a developer making a living. I like making phone apps in my free time for no money. So really no one has incentive to pirate my apps cause they are free


RE: Development
By invidious on 10/1/10, Rating: 0
RE: Development
By Gio6518 on 10/1/2010 1:24:12 PM , Rating: 2
because his quote was

quote:
Developers are probably wary of Android


in reality, theyre showing great intrest in the Android platform. But if you want to go into piracy, jailbreak an iPhone and get your apps for free, i know many that do this.
So what is really the difference.


RE: Development
By chrish89 on 10/4/2010 4:07:03 PM , Rating: 2
I'm a developer and the thought of programming in Java makes me cry inside...


RE: Development
By NoSpinHere on 10/10/2010 11:04:26 AM , Rating: 2
Why is interest in the IPhone plunging? IPhone customers and customers of other Apple products (I’ll get to the latter later) get a serious dose of greed and arrogance from Apple, but stay on board UNTIL AN ALTERNATIVE ARISES (think Android here). Apple exploits its customers with “force-buy” tactics because it is a pioneer in developing new products and technology, and enjoys success at the onset because it is typically the only game in town. Customers make a big investment with the initial Apple purchase, then get sucked into incremental purchases it shouldn’t have to make to protect the investment. During this time, Apple demonstrates its blatant and unwavering arrogance toward customers. Brand loyalty is key for Apple, and this is where Apple is extremely vulnerable today evidenced by what’s happening now in the smart phone market: Android phones are currently taking major market share from Apple’s IPhone. Case in Point: I recently switched from an IPhone to a T-Mobile Android driven smart phone; the Android OS and customer service was superior to Apple’s. Using direct mail to Android customers, Google advertised through its phone distributors (e.g. T-Mobile) “We don't forget about you”, apparently taking a stab at Apple, and they proved it with me firsthand. When a new version of Android’s OS was unveiled, Google made available an OS update for all existing Android phone users (despite that fact that newer faster phone models containing the upgraded OS were on the market) and did not force customers to buy a new phone; my smart phone is now even faster than before. Conversely with the IPhone, if you want to take advantage of new IOS technology, you are forced to buy a new phone. I mentioned other Apple products earlier. Well, I have been an Itunes / IPod customer since inception of the IPod Mini (say 8 years ago?) but have no loyalty to Apple or its Itunes music service. Just like the IPhone, I await an alternative (and it’s coming). Apple’s motto clearly must be "Money first and to hell with customer service". If you import any non-Itunes purchased song, the track skips (by Itunes' design of course), forcing you to ditch the song and buy it from Itunes. Even a simple task like changing the battery in an IPod is not allowed, forcing customers to buy yet another IPod to protect their investment in songs purchased over the years. Some Itunes updates wipe out your playlists; my song library was developed over years and I can’t tell you the anger I felt. “Back up your playlists” you say? Itunes' antiquated backup feature (by design) forces you to back up to disks instead of an external hard drive or the likes; this takes days to complete and who has that kind of time? Recent industry news stated that Google will soon unveil a new music service to compete with Itunes. I hope to be Google's first customer when it hits the market, and will gladly trash my IPod and delete Itunes from my hard drive. I switched to my Android phone and now truly feel like a “customer”. Apple brand loyalty? It doesn’t exist. It’s a timing thing for millions of Apple customers who wait on the sidelines until a comparable non-Apple product surfaces - then they take flight. Thanks for the technology Apple, but the customer abuse is inexcusable.


RE: Development
By carniver on 10/1/2010 12:45:54 PM , Rating: 3
Pirated software on a rooted Android, how's that different from pirated software on a jailbroken iPhone? You have double standards


RE: Development
By corduroygt on 10/1/2010 1:33:37 PM , Rating: 5
Android users are more likely to root their phones, since they tend to be more tech savvy people who would tinker with their phones indefinitely, compared to iphone users who probably don't use half the features of their phone, besides the all-important feature of looking trendy at a Starbucks.


RE: Development
By MScrip on 10/1/10, Rating: 0
RE: Development
By StarBlue on 10/1/2010 3:01:45 PM , Rating: 5
While Techies are a vocal group, they do not represent the market by a long long ways. The average consumer does not want to tinker with their phone, computer, TV, VCR/DVD/BR, game console, blender, refrigerator, etc. All they want is something that is new and different and more importantly it must simply WORK! My proof, almost all self proclaimed computer geeks out there all claim Linux is the best OS but you have to tweak it constantly. And let's see how much market share Linux has.... Gee looks like it still is less than 1%


RE: Development
By sprockkets on 10/1/2010 9:53:35 PM , Rating: 2
You don't have to tweak Linux constantly. Geeks choose to do that :). It's their way of scratching that itch.


RE: Development
By robinthakur on 10/4/2010 4:39:15 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
compared to iphone users who probably don't use half the features of their phone, besides the all-important feature of looking trendy at a Starbucks.


Wow did you take a class in patronising condescension at College? I diusagree with Tony, as Apple need to do something to alleviate this trend. It doesn't detract from their huge share of income in the mobile industry, but it is giving Google far more power to influence developers to develop for Android over the iPhone and that isnc't good for their future prospects.


RE: Development
By Targon on 10/4/2010 7:29:24 AM , Rating: 2
It is a given that many people have purchased an iPhone, not because they wanted a phone that has more functionality, but because they are the "me too" type of customer. They buy into the HYPE and perceived popularity of the iPhone, so they ran out and bought one. That isn't saying that every iPhone user out there didn't buy it because they prefer the iPhone over other devices, but there are a LOT of people who buy whatever is the most popular or most hyped item out there.

This is why Apple and AT&T encourage people to buy devices right at launch, when the Apple hype machine is at its strongest. If people do not buy the iPhone right at launch, there will be a slow loss of interest since the hype fades after a few weeks of a new iPhone launch.

Android on the other hand has been drawing those who are not as caught up in the hype, but rather, are looking for a new phone/device and pick the one that fits the needs of the buyer. There is a fair amount of Android hype as well, but it tends to be more of a steady demand rather than a rush because a new product just came on the market.

What many people did not see is that there was a fair amount of hype when the Blackberry Torch was launched, from people just as clueless as many of the iPhone crowd. Those who buy based on TV advertisements rather than because they have done some research all fall into the same category of customer, who believe in hype and advertising, rather than looking at the devices out there and picking the best one.

The real issue is the TYPE of consumer who ends up buying each of these devices. The Pet Rock sold well too, all because of advertising. If a ROCK can sell well because of advertising, what does that say about the intelligence of the American consumer? Yes, there are intelligent iPhone owners, but the perception is that there are a LOT of clueless iPhone users who ONLY bought an iPhone because of the hype, and the Apple name. These are the people who get looked down on by the more technical.

Android is breaking away from being the "anti-iPhone" platform and is getting more interest from those who really do just look for a device that does what THEY want, in the way they want it to work. Palm would also fall into this category, but due to no really new devices in over a year just hasn't gotten the hype needed to draw attention to WebOS.


RE: Development
By bfellow on 10/5/2010 3:27:17 PM , Rating: 2
You're holding the coffee wrong!


RE: Development
By FITCamaro on 10/1/2010 1:41:04 PM , Rating: 2
I'm currently working on an Android app. Development isn't too bad. I'll say Microsoft definitely has the best development tools out there. But that's what they excel at.

Hence why 360 development is far easier than PS3 development.


RE: Development
By Chaser on 10/1/2010 6:55:06 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Hence why 360 development is far easier than PS3 development.
Maybe to some, which has done nothing to inhibit PS3 development. Come on Camaro. Let's leave 2007 behind us. That horse died a long time ago.


RE: Development
By Reclaimer77 on 10/2/10, Rating: -1
RE: Development
By Alexstarfire on 10/2/2010 8:24:31 AM , Rating: 2
Dude, the Wii sold more consoles this year so far. Seems the 360 is passing it in weekly sales ATM though. 360 could overtake it by the holidays, but who knows. Wouldn't be a huge surprise since Wii has sold so much more over its lifetime.


RE: Development
By Reclaimer77 on 10/2/2010 11:18:35 AM , Rating: 2
Well my point was that the 360 far outsells the PS3. I guess I could have just stated that without bringing the Wii into it. But several articles like this one claim that since the Xbox redesign, it's been the top selling console on a monthly basis.

http://www.computerworlduk.com/news/it-business/32...


RE: Development
By robinthakur on 10/4/2010 4:43:02 AM , Rating: 2
No...your point was deliberately vague as to imply that the 360 has outsold the Wii in total. It is in reality nowhere close and the current bump in sales is due to Halo Reach, Kinnect about to flop...ahemm...I mean launch...and the availability of the slim. I own all three consoles so this is not an issue of bias, but give Nintendo their due as winning this generation when purely talking sales.


RE: Development
By mcnabney on 10/4/2010 9:57:19 AM , Rating: 2
The Wii did not win this generation. It is not part of the same generation as PS3 and Xbox360. It is a prime example of something new from the previous generation beating out something new. The novel controller and the appeal to consumers outside of the typical market was key to this.
I am a good example of this. My household got a Wii and the wife and kids like to play on it. FYI, this is the first console I have owned since the Atari 2600. PC all the way, baby. But the non-gaming members of the household wanted it because it was a)trendy and b)not typical gamey.


RE: Development
By Reclaimer77 on 10/4/2010 7:38:53 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
No...your point was deliberately vague as to imply that the 360 has outsold the Wii in total.


That's clearly not the case because I specifically wrote "THIS YEAR". What part of "this year" implies "total" to you?


RE: Development
By nikon133 on 10/3/2010 6:29:30 PM , Rating: 5
quote:
Are you sure about that? Aside from the Blu-Ray capability, the PS3 went about 3 years before releasing a game title that was worth a damn.


I tend to disagree here - MGS4, Killzone 2, Uncharted 1, R&C: Tools of Destruction etc. were all released within the first 3 years of console life. And much more.

quote:
To this day when it actually comes to exclusive game titles, you HAVE to say the XBox simply trounces the PS3 on that front.


Jeez, you are making your personal opinion a fact. When I was looking at consoles end of last year, I actually liked PS3 exclusives more than Xbox 360. While I wouldn't mind having Halo, Forza and GOW on PS3, I realised I don't want to miss on Killzone 2, Uncharted 1 and 2, God of War 3, MAG, Gran Turismo... even more than 360 exclusives. All matter of taste, would you not agree?

quote:
Microsoft dethroned the Wii this year, placing as the top selling console. And we already knew that the Xbox has ALWAYS had more game sales than the PS3. So I really don't see where you are basing your opinion.


You do realise there is console market outside of US, right? Last numbers I have seen were 41 million of Xbox 360 and 38 million of PS3 sold worldwide. Considering 1 year head start for 360, that is not much of advantage to brag about. In fact, all predictions I could see on the web were expecting that PS3 will overtake 360 during 2011 in worldwide sales.


RE: Development
By cjohnson2136 on 10/4/2010 3:47:21 PM , Rating: 1
Hey all of you a**holes I was just trying to state what I do development wise with these products if you dont have anything to say about the actual development of android, iphone, or win 7 then shut up nikon133 this is not directed at you but everyone who posted comments not relevant to what i said


RE: Development
By nikon133 on 10/4/2010 5:52:56 PM , Rating: 2
Point taken - we did stray a bit.

You could told us that in a bit more civilised way, though.

Peace, bro.


RE: Development
By cjohnson2136 on 10/5/2010 9:07:27 AM , Rating: 2
yeah i know i was having a bad day yesterday


Shocking News!
By KeithP on 10/1/2010 12:51:29 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
...the number of smart phone buyers intending to buy an iPhone dropped from 50 percent in June to 38 percent in September.


Wow, this is ground breaking news! So they are saying, right before the initial release of the iPhone 4, there were a lot more people intending to buy it then there were are 3 months after it came out.

As DT points out, I am sure the cause of this was all those iPhone 4 problems and not that a bunch of people went out and actually bought the phone and therefore no longer had any intentions of buying one.

But the bigger picture is Apple's tiny share of the personal computer market. Combine this with the iPhone market share shrinking Apple is certainly headed for financial ruin.

-KeithP




RE: Shocking News!
By sviola on 10/1/2010 1:40:28 PM , Rating: 2
The study was done with people that intend on buying a smartphone. Not people that already bought one.

So, yes, the interest on the iPhone is diminishing. But you can feel happy and know that most of the current owners of iphones will probably get a new one when their plans are over.


RE: Shocking News!
By farquaid on 10/4/2010 10:02:57 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
The study was done with people that intend on buying a smartphone. Not people that already bought one.


Yes but the market for people who intend to buy an iphone off course has declined drastictly since a big percentage of the ones who buy an iphone does so at release date.

quote:

So, yes, the interest on the iPhone is diminishing


It doesnt prove the interest for iphone is diminishing. It might have diminished, this study just doesnt prove it. This is an apple to orange comparison. Android phones gets released all the time during the year by multiple companies. Iphone is made by one company and is released at one time every year.

When it comes to iphone you have compare it to something else, like a release of a huge anticipated pc game. Just an example:
blizzard is releasing an expansion for WOW called cataclysm. I believe there are 11million peoples playing WOW atm. Lets say at release 80 percent of those people buy the expansion. 3 months later there are ~8 million people less who has any reason to buy the expansion. People will still buy it but clearly not as many. Does this mean the interest for the expansion has diminished?


RE: Shocking News!
By Tony Swash on 10/1/10, Rating: -1
RE: Shocking News!
By Tony Swash on 10/1/10, Rating: -1
RE: Shocking News!
By AssBall on 10/1/2010 3:53:56 PM , Rating: 5
Wow. I think you left a little bit on there on your chin...


RE: Shocking News!
By amanojaku on 10/1/2010 7:35:54 PM , Rating: 5
As a person who once owned a PowerBook G4 I have this to say to Tony Swash:

Six years ago, they assimilated me into their collective. I had their iDevices implanted throughout my house. I was linked to the AppleTalk. Every trace of Flash erased. I was one of them. So you can imagine, my friend, I have a unique perspective on the Appleites and I know how to fight them. Now if you'll excuse me I have work to do. (Installs an unscreened 3rd party application)

I will not sacrifice the Open Source. We've lost too many bars; too many dropped calls. They invade our offices and we fall back. They assimilate entire coffee shops and we fall back. Not again. The line must be drawn here! This far, no further! And I will make them pay for what they've done. (Makes a perfectly normal phone call)


RE: Shocking News!
By acer905 on 10/1/2010 8:35:10 PM , Rating: 2
... Yup... reference understood... And now i have to go watch... something <.< ... >.>


RE: Shocking News!
By themaster08 on 10/2/2010 2:32:23 AM , Rating: 2
If you can really invest that much time, effort, love and affection to support a company that does nothing more than provide you with consumerable goods and a few shares, it's time to start re-evaluating your life.

I feel sorry for you, sincerely.


RE: Shocking News!
By wushuktl on 10/4/2010 6:47:39 AM , Rating: 1
O_O


RE: Shocking News!
By hiscross on 10/1/2010 10:39:10 PM , Rating: 2
Keith P,

Spoken like a true socialist. I'm Apple, whos market cap is the second largest in the world is going to shutdown anyday now. Of course Barry and his smart advisors have gotten the economy back on track because he uses a blackberry (think about that for a moment). Next is Afgan because afgan sounds so much like andriod.


RE: Shocking News!
By mindless1 on 10/2/2010 4:21:38 AM , Rating: 2
Do you realize you look like a douchbag when you sign your posts?

Really. Your thoughts ARE NOT THAT SMART OR WORTHY of bothering to type more.


RE: Shocking News!
By retrospooty on 10/3/2010 9:18:30 AM , Rating: 2
hmm... I could tell he was a giant douche long before I got the end. That was just the douche icing on the douche cake.


RE: Shocking News!
By robinthakur on 10/4/2010 4:57:12 AM , Rating: 2
Please stop signing your posts, it makes you look retarded. The iPhone4 sales figures paint it as a massive success, and this product will likely be on the market for close to a year, so your post shows a lack of insight into the way Apple's product cycles work. Yes they dropped the ball at a very bad time in the way they dealt with the issue, but I think the issue is dealt with now and were somewhat blown out of all proportion by media hysteria.

Apple's share of the PC market is actually growing, as an aside, but the number you need to focus on are Apple's relative profits which as a percentage are far higher than Dell's.

Apple operates in a highly profitable niche market even in the phones sector pocketing 39% (I think) of the profits in the entire mobile industry due to being rather more savvy with their business negotiations with carriers than their competitors. Until Android starts to impact on that figure meaningfully, expect little to change in the status quo. Apple are not big volume box shifters by nature, they are high profit low volume, and that strategy is working for now. When it becomes high profit/high volume that's just the icing on the cake for them, though they do not need it to survive.


RE: Shocking News!
By chrish89 on 10/4/2010 5:23:10 PM , Rating: 2
I triple guarantee you, there are no iPhones being sold."

Apple is achieving nothing; they are suffering from casualties. Those casualties are increasing, not decreasing.

Let the Apple infidels bask in their illusion.

Android is winning!


Android vs iOS
By DailyDavid on 10/2/2010 10:25:10 AM , Rating: 2
Android

1. Customizable home screens - widgets, contact direct dial, navigation one-touch, etc.
2. Built in turn-by-turn navigation - best I have ever used period
3. Voice commands for just about everything, including everywhere you can input text.
4. Highly customizable in general
5. Notifications - easily switch between running apps and see email, calendar, and other app alerts.
6. Auto-install of app updates - very convenient
7. Great browser - faster than iOS and supports flash 10.1
8. Gmail compatibility is first-rate (if you use gmail)
9. Lot's free apps by Google - places, sky map, goggles, tracks, etc.
10. Better maps than iOS - even though they're both Google Maps, Android version is far superior.
11. Better contacts - faster scrolling and don't have to go return to the top of contact list to search
12. Back button - this alone makes Android superior to iOS. Very convenient, especially when you've jumped from app to app (e.g., clicked a link in an email which took you to the browser).
13. Google's breakneck pace of development - Google is working harder and faster than Apple to bring new features quickly
14. Customizable keyboard - Swype, SwiftKey, Better Keyboard, etc.
15. More hardware options - physical keyboard, OLED screen, 4.3" display, etc.
16. Interface is not cluttered with buttons - back, menu, and search are physical buttons which leaves a lot more room for the actual content of an app

iOS

1. App store
2. Retina display
3. Very smooth interface
4. App store (worth repeating :))




RE: Android vs iOS
By JeffDenver on 10/3/2010 3:12:23 PM , Rating: 1
That comparison is spot on. Sorry Apple people....no it isnt just about look and feel. Android brings actual functionality to customers and actual choices. Of the items in this list, widgets are the most obvious difference between the iPhone and Android phones...they add a LOT of functionality.

"OMG its not a fair comparison because iOS is only on one carrier". So what? The main limitation of iOS is Apple itself. Apple CHOSE to limit the iPhone to one carrier. And that is something you need to get used to if you decide to go apple: Limits on choice. As an iOS user, you need to get used to being told "no" by Apple. On Android, that is rarely going to happen, and this will be appealing to most people IMO. The current sale numbers certainly seem to reflect that.


RE: Android vs iOS
By chrish89 on 10/4/2010 12:54:01 PM , Rating: 2
17. Excellent Dildo


RE: Android vs iOS
By chrish89 on 10/4/2010 4:29:40 PM , Rating: 2
18. Looks, smells, and tastes like a pop-tart.


RE: Android vs iOS
By chrish89 on 10/4/2010 4:25:37 PM , Rating: 2
19. You check your email and it shocks your nuts.


RE: Android vs iOS
By themaster08 on 10/4/2010 5:21:46 PM , Rating: 2
20. STFU.


RE: Android vs iOS
By chrish89 on 10/4/2010 5:39:01 PM , Rating: 2
21. Only accepts calls from themaster08


RE: Android vs iOS
By lecanard on 10/4/2010 7:17:28 PM , Rating: 2
All true, but it's not as one-sided as you make it sound. The quantity and quality of apps in the apple app store are worth more than many of the points you made about android combined. Remember why Windows won the computer OS market: developer support. As for look and feel, Android's look is ugly but OK, while the feel is very clunky. Seriously, why does scrolling through icons still feel like it's 10 frames per second on a 1 GHz phone running 2.2? The first iPhone was better than that. And it took ages for the Kindle app to finally show up on android. Games are inferior on android as well. No jaw-dropping Unreal 3 engine demos for Android (yet).

Also, before Android users become as too smug (that's Apple fans' job), remember that the original Android interface looked a lot like old Symbian (i.e. yuck) until Apple showed what a decent phone UI looked like and they made it look more like that. I've been developing on Android since the first SDK, so I've seen how much Android has learned from iPhone OS.

At this point, while I still prefer the iPhone despite hating Apple in principle (insufferable smugness and overpriced computers I'll never buy) and because they messed up e-book pricing, the two platforms are close enough now that it comes down to personal preference and wireless carrier. Neither is obviously superior anymore.


Its the market share
By ThreatcoreNews on 10/1/2010 1:12:45 PM , Rating: 1
Android is surging - no one can doubt that. iPhone has lost market share to Android and from watching the trends, the future is trending bright for Android.




RE: Its the market share
By frobizzle on 10/1/2010 2:12:41 PM , Rating: 5
Someone needs to put the Apple Zombies (Pirks, Tony Swash, reader1, et al) on suicide watch. If this trend continues, they will likely open a vein and we won't have their fine additions to these discussions!

Wait! In second thought, cancel the watch!


RE: Its the market share
By Pirks on 10/1/10, Rating: -1
RE: Its the market share
By Helbore on 10/5/2010 11:36:06 AM , Rating: 1
Pirks, you ought to keep Steve off your computer whilst you service him.


RE: Its the market share
By cyberserf on 10/2/2010 2:49:13 AM , Rating: 1
the only reason Android is surging (lol) is because all the Apple competitors supporting it. Before android these clowns had nothing to compete.
and adding insult they are practically cloning the looks of the Iphone too.


RE: Its the market share
By Alexstarfire on 10/2/2010 8:26:48 AM , Rating: 3
I think people need to give up on talking about the looks. Seriously, there isn't going to be a lot of variation when the phone is mostly a screen. Some certainly look closer than others, but it's a very tired subject already.


RE: Its the market share
By Gio6518 on 10/2/2010 11:19:20 AM , Rating: 2
Apple propaganda site

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/09/16/ipho...

still more from Apple propaganda site

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/08/12/andr...

Where Android-based smartphone shipments leapfrog Apple's iPhone


RE: Its the market share
By chrish89 on 10/4/2010 5:24:40 PM , Rating: 2
I triple guarantee you, there are no iPhones being sold."

Apple is achieving nothing; they are suffering from casualties. Those casualties are increasing, not decreasing.

Let the Apple infidels bask in their illusion.

Android is winning!


lol
By mindless1 on 10/2/10, Rating: 0
RE: lol
By Donkey2008 on 10/2/10, Rating: 0
RE: lol
By kyith on 10/2/2010 10:55:30 PM , Rating: 2
these data will only show about US concentration. Around the world, where all telcos are equally competitive, iPhone wins easily because it is easy to use and not as hard to manage as an Android phone.

HTC Desire user and iPod touch user.


RE: lol
By retrospooty on 10/3/2010 9:21:58 AM , Rating: 2
Well that one example out of many millions.

The truth is iphones have their share of technical issues too. I am sure you must be aware of that fact.


RE: lol
By robinthakur on 10/4/2010 5:08:17 AM , Rating: 2
The actual (and slightly disturbing) truth is that even with the minor antennae issues, the iPhone4 somehow manages to be the best smartphone out there...Having said that, his anecdotal evidence would reflect that nobody checks Android apps in the same way that iOS apps are checked before they go on the market, so its not exactly surprising. I have yet to find a reputable iOS app which crashes in the Appstore.

The quality and quantity of apps, the Retina display, overall usability, the speed of the OS and iTunes are what keep me with the iPhone4. If any of these things starts to fall behind, I would simply buy something else instead. Speaking from anecdotal experience though, other than Googles own apps which are fab, there is nothing which seems that interesting on the Android app store.


RE: lol
By retrospooty on 10/4/2010 8:20:01 AM , Rating: 2
"I have yet to find a reputable iOS app which crashes in the Appstore."

um...Apples own OS updates might just brick you or make your phone slower than dirt...


RE: lol
By Pirks on 10/4/2010 9:11:07 AM , Rating: 1
quote:
Apples own OS updates might just brick you
If you jailbroke

Such a pathetic attempt from a PC fanboy, har har


RE: lol
By kyith on 10/5/2010 7:53:27 PM , Rating: 2
the thing is that even with those issues, their upside is much appealing to the magic that android can do. i have used both device and simplicity is a really powerful feature lol.

around our neck of the woods, we have so much android devices out already and are on cheaper plans compare to iPhone 4 yet all everyone wants is iPhone iPhone.

it has created a cult following. those that have iPhone 3G or 3GS will still go back to them.


It's the network, not the phone
By JoeOnRoute66 on 10/1/2010 12:29:51 PM , Rating: 3
If Apple was available on Verizon, I would certainly contemplate an iPhone. After years of horrible service with the Southwestern Bell facade called AT&T, I have little desire to deal with the company. It will take a lot of improved customer service and additional coverage area (let alone reliability) to get me to switch.




RE: It's the network, not the phone
By cjohnson2136 on 10/1/2010 1:01:53 PM , Rating: 1
I would agree with this. Everyone I know that has an iPhone love it but hate AT&T. I think there are two many things that factor in to these stats that are not addressed. Also would you talk about iPhone vs. Android you are talking about one phone vs Android(which is software) that is on multiple phones. I do not udnerstand how people can so easily compare an iPhone to an Android phone. Plus you do have to take into account the network. If both phones were on the same network then comparing interest could be fairly simply. But since they are not interest could fall not because of a crappy phone but because of a crappy network


RE: It's the network, not the phone
By Gio6518 on 10/1/2010 1:17:16 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Android you are talking about one phone vs Android(which is software) that is on multiple phones.


iPhone is an os iOS, if you look at the parts list, its not like Apple manufactures or even assembles anything. The majority of its components come from Samsung, the only thing Apple does is pick which components get slapped together, then sent to another place for assembly.


By dark matter on 10/1/2010 1:24:09 PM , Rating: 2
I think you hit the nail on the head. It's just one phone. Now other people are making comparable phones then people flock to diversity.

After all, you wouldn't like being in a room where everyone is wearing the same suit as yours, no matter how well tailored.


Arrogance will be the downfall of Apple
By masamasa on 10/4/2010 10:54:10 AM , Rating: 1
It helps to listen to your customers, charge reasonable prices, and not run around bragging how great you are while slinging mud at the competition.




By chrish89 on 10/4/2010 4:38:36 PM , Rating: 3
Powerful they have become, the dark side I sense in them.


Slew of Slews
By mckirkus on 10/1/2010 12:33:52 PM , Rating: 3
"slew of other new features at Steve Jobs' keynote introduction of the device. As the phone launched with a slew"

Ahhhhrg, make it stop!




Got Bias?
By lawrance on 10/1/10, Rating: 0
RE: Got Bias?
By cyberserf on 10/2/2010 2:56:59 AM , Rating: 2
my bro has the iphone and an Android g2 phone.
he still prefers the iphone because of the clean interface.
Apple only needs to open up to the other carriers.
I just love how the Iphone competitors are practically copying everything just to compete.


RE: Got Bias?
By W00dmann on 10/2/2010 7:31:07 PM , Rating: 2
This, of course, is Jason's entire purpose. He has a flaming bias against several companies, largest of which appears to be Apple. He admitted as much to me once before when I challenged his obvious prejudice in the comments section. He delights in writing juvenile pap and passing it off as "journalism", clapping his hands and drooling all the while. Poor guy, he truly does not realize just how pathetic he really is... Must be tough to be live his life.


RE: Got Bias?
By Pirks on 10/4/10, Rating: -1
Android will suffer the same...
By TEAMSWITCHER on 10/3/2010 1:45:05 PM , Rating: 2
The only thing keeping the iPhone down right now is the lack of additional carriers. If Verizon offered an iPhone, I'm sure that Android sales would be much lower. I do not like the Android, all the phones are ugly.

I'm stuck on Verizon until February when my family's contract is up. If the iPhone hasn't come to Verizon by then, we're jumping ship to AT&T.




By JeffDenver on 10/3/2010 3:22:48 PM , Rating: 1
"The only thing keeping the iPhone down right now is the lack of additional carriers."

Um, no. Choice is what is keeping them down. Limitations on carrier are just one more example of how Apple limits choices. Even non-techie people are going to get tired of being told "no" by Apple. It is not just looks; I can do things with my Droid that you simply cannot do on any iPhone. Going to Verizon is not going to be the magic pill that all the iPhone fanbois seem to think it will be. iOS's problems run a lot deeper than AT&T. Their biggest problem is not the hardware and is not AT&T and is not even the OS itself. Their biggest problem is Apple.

Jumping ship to AT&T? Good luck. Everyone I know on AT&T is headed in the other direction, so there should be a lot of room on their ship by the time you get there.


"Plunging"??
By W00dmann on 10/1/10, Rating: 0
RE: "Plunging"??
By cyberserf on 10/2/2010 2:52:19 AM , Rating: 2
its more hate for Apple by Dailytech.
maybe Apple didn't give them a free Iphone.
Apple needs partner with other carriers now. They have been with At&T for too long.


heh
By sprockkets on 10/1/2010 9:55:57 PM , Rating: 2
Palm results misleading
By Targon on 10/4/2010 7:56:40 AM , Rating: 2
One thing about these results that jumps out at anyone who has looked at the Palm Pre or Pixi is the low percentage compared to iOS or Android. There are three reasons for the numbers here.

First up, you have the people who have an original Palm Pre on Sprint. This was the first release of the Pre, and it had(and has) some quality issues with the construction. It has gotten a little better, but has not gotten a significant upgrade on Sprint.

The Verizon build quality is quite a bit better, and the AT&T build quality better yet. With the "Plus" versions on Verizon and AT&T, the RAM was doubled from 256MB to 512MB, which helps things a bit.

The second reason for the numbers is that there has been no refresh part. So while there are new Android phones that seem to come out weekly, the Palm phones have a stock speed of 500MHz, even though it can be overclocked to 1GHz fairly easily, with over a 95 percent success rate. From that perspective, those who would want to upgrade every year just have NO reason to with the lack of new devices. People who currently have a Palm Pre or Pre Plus want a phone with a bigger screen and a stock 1GHz or faster processor, plus larger battery, yet there is no new replacement.

And finally, there is the lack of hype to drive sales and make people feel like they are on a PLATFORM that is still alive and thriving. Even with the release of WebOS 1.4.5, all we get from HP are rumors about WebOS 2.0, with no word on when new devices will be released. This isn't how you keep people interested in a platform. If there is nothing to look forward to, people lose interest, and that is how many people are feeling about the WebOS platform right now.




iPad & jason mick
By dcarlton1 on 10/5/2010 12:26:02 AM , Rating: 2
All the other articles I have read this week say the iPad is way ahead of the competition and will not be equaled any time soon if ever! Why is jason mick's opinion so different from all the others?




Oooh, bad Jason
By Dorkyman on 10/1/10, Rating: 0
No big surprise
By BZDTemp on 10/1/10, Rating: 0
DailyHate
By chrish89 on 10/4/10, Rating: 0
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