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Sandisk unveils the Sansa e280

While everyone has been talking up Microsoft's upcoming Zune portable media player and whatever Apple has up its sleeve on the 6G iPod, Sandisk has slipped in a new MP3 player under radar. Although it has been rumored for quite some time, the company has finally officially announced its 8GB Sansa e280.

With flash prices on the steady decline, Sandisk is able to offer the player at a relatively reasonable $249. With 8GB of storage space at its disposal, the e280 can accommodate up to 2,000 songs. Thanks to an integrated microSD slot, that capacity can be bumped up to 10GB (or 2,500 songs) with one of Sandisk's 2GB microSD cards.

"SanDisk is once again making it incredibly affordable for consumers to purchase the most feature-rich, high-capacity players on the market at the best possible price. The most costly ingredient in a flash-based MP3 player is the flash memory. Since we make the flash memory, we essentially remove the middleman and pass that savings directly to the consumer," said Eric Bone, director of audio/video product marketing at SanDisk.

The 1.7" x 3.5" x 0.5" player features a 1.8" screen, an open non-proprietary DRM system, photo and video playback capability, FM radio tuning and recording, built-in microphone, USB 2.0 interface and up to 20 hours of battery life. It should also be noted that Sandisk has cut prices on existing members of the Sansa e200 family. The Sansa e250, e260 and e270 are now priced at $139.99, $179.99 and $219.99 respectively.

Sandisk has been shakin' and bakin' in the flash industry in recent months. Sandisk has announced that it was working with Toshiba to expand its flash memory capacity and it has also purchased M-Systems which gives the company a vast portfolio of products including Flash-SSD drives and embedded modules.

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Didnt' know....
By Souka on 8/21/2006 10:39:54 AM , Rating: 2
Thanks to an integrated microSD slot, that capacity can be bumped up to 10GB

Didn't know they made 2GB micro-SD cards... maybe they will by the time you actually can get one of these?

RE: Didnt' know....
By mb on 8/21/2006 11:14:14 AM , Rating: 2
They do. I have had one for a week already :)
Right now, as far as I can tell, Verizon Wireless is the only one selling them.

RE: Didnt' know....
By Matno on 8/21/2006 11:17:16 AM , Rating: 2
I just got an ad from selling them for $39. (Kingston brand). Not too shabby.

RE: Didnt' know....
By Souka on 8/21/2006 5:46:19 PM , Rating: 2
Nope...u got an AD for 2x1GB SD
"Kingston 2 X 1GB Secure Digital Card (SD) Kit"

Micro SD is much much smaller.....hence "micro"

RE: Didnt' know....
By sdsdv10 on 8/21/2006 5:04:00 PM , Rating: 2
Here are two sites from a quick froogle search.
Not sure if they are actually in stock, the websites don't say and I wasn't going to call to check. Nonetheless, they listed at some etailers.

RE: Didnt' know....
By Souka on 8/21/2006 5:42:20 PM , Rating: 2
Sweet.... :)

By Shadowself on 8/21/2006 10:05:36 AM , Rating: 2
"an open DRM system" now there's the definition of oxymoron if there ever were one.

RE: Oxymoron
By shadowzz on 8/21/2006 10:12:33 AM , Rating: 2
Doesn't unix have a dozen or so DRM methods that are open sourced?

RE: Oxymoron
By Shadowself on 8/21/2006 1:22:52 PM , Rating: 2
I didn't refer to the source code for the software being open source. I was referring to the concept of DRM being "open".

RE: Oxymoron
By JNo on 8/22/2006 11:55:25 AM , Rating: 2
now there's *an* oxymoron if there ever were one. doesn't look like a definition to me.

RE: Oxymoron
By oTAL on 8/23/2006 3:07:18 PM , Rating: 2
chill out dude....

By jimmy43 on 8/21/2006 1:34:53 PM , Rating: 2
These things look really nice and all, I would love to upgrade to 8gb (from my 4gb mini) but the problem with all these players is the interface sucks. I listen to mostly livesets meaning songs of 90+ min of lenght. I love being able to skip forward into the set 40-50 minutes at a time, but so far only the ipod has been able to let me do that in under 5 seconds. How is the interface on these things does anyone know?

RE: Question
By rrsurfer1 on 8/21/2006 2:26:04 PM , Rating: 2
Good question... I was wondering this as well. Can you skip around like with the iPod? Any other real differences from the iPod's navigation structure? Anyone?

RE: Question
By jmunjr on 8/21/2006 3:33:55 PM , Rating: 2
Lol, even worse is none of these, including the iPod, allow searching? My 1999 mp3 player(Empeg) can do a search by artist, title, album, genre, year, and more. Hello? That was 7 years ago! I can SEARCH and PLAY any one of my 20,000 songs in my player(120GB) in 4-8 seconds... Try that with even an iPod..

RE: Question
By Phynaz on 8/21/2006 3:37:30 PM , Rating: 2
Try putting your player in your shirt pocket.

RE: Question
By jmunjr on 8/22/2006 5:41:29 AM , Rating: 2
My empeg is still portable, but geez it is 7 years old. There is nothing technical preventing any of these portable units from offering a search. Until I can search for a song easily I won't get one. Browsing alphabetically doesn't cut it on a 5GB+ unit..

Ok, I guess some of the older ipods would have needed a remote with a 10 key to search easily, but now most of these have touch screens, so now they can do it easily.

Anybody know of any firmware hacks for a portable music player that adds searching?

the price of portability
By R Nilla on 8/21/2006 10:15:59 AM , Rating: 2
a quick froogle search seems to suggest that one could have a 20GB Creative Zen Touch for more or less the price of the e280 (or even e270) - I guess that is the price of portability. Although it's still a much better deal than the iPod nano in terms of price per GB, but I'm not sure how they compare in physical size...

RE: the price of portability
By masher2 on 8/21/2006 10:19:23 AM , Rating: 2
It's a little smaller than the photo makes it appear...I just purchased the 4GB version for my son.

RE: the price of portability
By mykelu on 8/21/2006 10:47:05 AM , Rating: 2
also consider the price of durability, ie flash vs hard drive, meaning you can worry less about a flash based mp3 player while listening to it during a morning run for example

How is the UI on the samsung players?
By retrospooty on 8/21/2006 3:19:49 PM , Rating: 2
Does it compare to ipods?

RE: How is the UI on the samsung players?
By sdsdv10 on 8/21/2006 4:26:24 PM , Rating: 2
Uh, where did you come up with Samsung? This news item is about SanDisk Sansa mp3 player. A review of which can be found here.

If you truely are looking for a related Samsung review. Check here.

By retrospooty on 8/21/2006 11:54:36 PM , Rating: 2
THanks... Obviusly I meant Sandisk.

By mp3lover on 8/21/2006 4:45:39 PM , Rating: 2
I've got the 4GB version and love it. No DRM. Good video. Way to go, Sandisk! Now I'm jonesing for this 8GB version. To the questions I've seen above... 1) No, you can't quickly FF into the middle of a large file (e.g., a concert mix)--at least with the 4GB firmware. That's my only gripe w/player. 2) Yes, you can use it for file tx/back-up like you would an iPod. The player simply shows up as another disk in File Manager.

RE: Answers
Oh great
By GhandiInstinct on 8/21/06, Rating: 0
RE: Oh great
By xsilver on 8/21/2006 11:53:54 AM , Rating: 2
a little while back google shares were under $100...

By rrsurfer1 on 8/21/2006 11:54:42 AM , Rating: 2
Might be time to sell my 2GB Nano... I'm unhappy with the battery life and I could always use more space... not to mention the larger screen.

A very good deal
By BioRebel on 8/21/2006 1:33:52 PM , Rating: 2
I have a 4gb one and I couldn't be happier. Its only slightly thicker than a nano, but the side-effect is tha ability to repleace the battery if needed.

Good price
By labjr on 8/21/2006 1:33:53 PM , Rating: 2
It's about time the other manufacturers realized that you can't compete by offering similar products at the same price. For years it seems companies like creative have been trying to compete with Apple by selling their players with similar capacities for the same price as Apple. That just won't work. There's Apple and then there's everyone else. You have to compete with much lower prices and people will buy.

The Chinese need to start whoring the stuff out for next to nothing to really put a dent in Apple.

My requirements
By antheo on 8/21/2006 4:21:01 PM , Rating: 2
Can it be used a disk for backup like the iPod?
Does it work with a Mac?

My sister just got the e250
By Josh7289 on 8/21/2006 7:05:46 PM , Rating: 2
My sister just won an e250 off of eBay a couple of days ago. It was something around $117.49 shipped, but I wonder how much this retail price cut would have affected her?


microSD bad decision
By mindless1 on 8/21/2006 11:04:14 PM , Rating: 2
IMO, microSD was a stupid choice here. How many people are going to have a 8GB player and only only 2GB more memory? If they had some sense they'd have a full SD slot since SD is already at 4GB, no reason to believe it won't eventually hit 8GB.

I suppose everyone's preference is different but I could care less about a large color screen, more audio formats supported would be better to me. Don't want a user replacable lithium battery either, rather a commonly available AA battery. Result would be a shorter, sligthly fatter player, and that's fine by me, they need not all try to be tall and thin clones.

I wouldn't be surprised if this player drops below $150 after rebate though, which would be a very attractive price-point.

By CoreGamer on 8/23/2006 9:15:42 PM , Rating: 2
I dont know about your area but these "Sansa" MP3 are the new thing over here, If someone is talking about getting a new MP3 its usually this one. Why? Cheaper and MUCH better than an Ipod. If you dont belive me go pick one up :P I Have a 2GB One and I watch FULL MOVIES on it all the time, can a Nano do that? No, and there are about 15 other things this thing can do that Ipods cant

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