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The visionary new installation is relatively affordable and could bring life to the most arid regions of desert. It could also serve as a template for colonizing other planets.  (Source: Exploration Architecture)

Lettuce is among the crops that can grow in the new seawater and solar-fueled greenhouse.
Project combines cutting edge agriculture, using greenhouses, with solar power to produce a variety of essentials

Many people look to space and wonder if we might one day colonize other planets or heavenly bodies such as Mars or the Moon.  Before such exotic steps can be taken, we must conquer hostile environments here on Earth, hopefully learning applicable knowledge along the way. 

Among the harshest environments in the world is the Sahara desert.  With intense sunlight heating the sand to fiery temperatures and with little water, few animals and even fewer humans are able to live in this region.  However, the same resources that make the Sahara so inhospitable have benefits as well.

The European Union has already proposed massive Saharan solar installations and infrastructure, including a €45B supergrid, which could take advantage of the intense sunlight to power the entire EU.  Now a new organization, the Sahara Forest Project, is aiming to create a sustainable infrastructure for human life in the desert.  The project provides perhaps an ideal proving ground for technologies that could someday be applied to space colonization efforts.

The project, run by British scientists, aims to use a combination of high-tech greenhouses and solar power to create food, water, and power -- all the essentials for human colonization -- in the harshest regions of the Sahara.

The plan is to use concentrated solar power (CSP), a high yield type of solar power, to power seawater evaporators to obtain freshwater.  The installation also powers pumps which pipe cool, damp air into the greenhouses lowering the temperature up to 15 degrees Celsius.  This allows sun-loving plants such as lettuces, peppers, cucumbers and tomatoes.

Charlie Paton, a member of the team who invented the seawater greenhouse concept, describes, "Plants need light for growth but they don't like heat beyond a certain point.  So we've got conditions in the greenhouse of high humidity and lower temperature.  The crops sitting in this slightly steamy, humid condition can grow fantastically well."

The greenhouse would produce demineralized water, which could be used to keep the CSP panels in top working order.  The waste heat from the CSP could be recaptured to evaporate even more seawater.

The project already has two working demo plants in Tenerife, Oman and the United Arab Emirates.  It says that for £65m it can build 20 hectares of greenhouse and a 10 MW CSP installation to power it.  At these relatively low costs, many Middle Eastern countries are expressing interest in the self-sustaining system.

Many say similar gains could be attained using permaculture farming practices.  However, the Sahara Forest Project has the added perk that it provides an ideal model for space colonization efforts.

The installation also sinks a great deal of carbon, and additionally it helps restore the desert ecosystem, which has been damaged by over-access of the limited underground water resources.



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Doesn't pass the smell test
By porkpie on 9/3/2008 9:10:23 PM , Rating: 1
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The visionary new installation is relatively affordable...
If it uses solar power, I doubt that. Even here in America its too expensive to use without massive government subsidies. A self-contained solar station that uses a bunch of power to desalinate water and cool greenhouses? With everything tightly sealed to maintain temperature and humidity? Sounds about as pricey as a base on mars, minus the lifting costs.

Also the desert is usually very alkaline soil, which plants don't like much. So there's another cost to rectify that problem.




RE: Doesn't pass the smell test
By therealnickdanger on 9/3/2008 9:36:31 PM , Rating: 3
Sandstorms and rolling dunes would bury solar panels in a heartbeat. I hear that sunlight doesn't shine very well through sand.

*For the record, I am indeed making a sweeping generalization about the location of this installation. I have no idea if this area is prone to either sandstorms or rolling dunes.


RE: Doesn't pass the smell test
By Howard on 9/3/2008 10:03:41 PM , Rating: 2
This system would not use solar panels.


RE: Doesn't pass the smell test
By atrabilious on 9/3/2008 11:26:34 PM , Rating: 2
No it'd use mirrors which can get covered by sand just as easily.


RE: Doesn't pass the smell test
By Kiijibari on 9/4/2008 2:47:21 AM , Rating: 2
So what ?
Seems like you do not know nothing about deserts ...

At least consult wikipedia before posting:
quote:
Sand dunes called ergs and stony surfaces called hamada surfaces compose a minority of desert surfaces . Exposures of rocky terrain are typical, and reflect minimal soil development and sparseness of vegetation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desert

cheers

Kiiji


RE: Doesn't pass the smell test
By atrabilious on 9/4/2008 9:43:25 AM , Rating: 3
Consulting Wikipedia doesn't make you an expert. Even rocky areas in the Sahara get exposed to enormous dust storms that can cover surfaces. Some of those storms are large enough to even blow dust all the way across the Atlantic.

Next think think before you post.


RE: Doesn't pass the smell test
By JohnnyCNote on 9/4/08, Rating: -1
RE: Doesn't pass the smell test
By Malhavoc on 9/3/2008 10:40:11 PM , Rating: 2
You don't have to grow the vegetables in the soil. I've been to about 30 vegetable greenhouses and not one has. Ones I've encountered use crap like coconut fibre and pump it full of fertilizers that are recirculated through the irrigation water.


RE: Doesn't pass the smell test
By myhipsi on 9/4/2008 7:37:32 AM , Rating: 2
Hydroponics.


RE: Doesn't pass the smell test
By TheDoc9 on 9/4/2008 10:37:55 AM , Rating: 3
Then the argument becomes how healthy is the plant for consumption. They are already using demineralized, distilled water. Who knows how many minerals and nutrients are in sand as it is, it's probably barely enough for the plant or worse.

They have a nice picture there, but unless I was starving I wouldn't eat anything that comes out of one of these places.


RE: Doesn't pass the smell test
By TheDoc9 on 9/4/2008 10:39:53 AM , Rating: 2
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Ones I've encountered use crap like coconut fibre and pump it full of fertilizers that are recirculated through the irrigation water.


didn't read the last part, my mistake.


RE: Doesn't pass the smell test
By Leeman on 9/4/08, Rating: 0
RE: Doesn't pass the smell test
By porkpie on 9/5/2008 12:59:06 AM , Rating: 1
Sure, but you do know how expensive hydroponics is? Add to that solar power (very expensive), water desalination (very expensive), cooling and humidity control for the greenhouses (expensive), the need to pipe water several miles (slightly expensive) and all the maintenance for this, and you get lettuce thats $200 a head and $100 carrots.

Maybe on Mars. But not here.


RE: Doesn't pass the smell test
By RU482 on 9/4/2008 10:44:42 AM , Rating: 2
Also, there is no mention of what they would do with all that salt from the ocean water.


RE: Doesn't pass the smell test
By Murloc on 9/5/2008 6:20:38 AM , Rating: 2
sell it.


By SoCalBoomer on 9/4/2008 3:21:36 PM , Rating: 2
Plants will likely be grown in a water solution - which is already being used elsewhere and quite successfully. Just search "hydroponic gardening lettuce" and you'll find a TON of info on it, from University of Florida to Wiki stuff.


By slashbinslashbash on 9/4/2008 12:22:25 AM , Rating: 5
Walk without rhythm, and it won't attract the worm!




By Spivonious on 9/4/2008 10:41:35 AM , Rating: 2
I'll just use my thumper.


By shin0bi272 on 9/4/2008 12:08:03 PM , Rating: 2
HL2 reference FTW


By HOOfan 1 on 9/4/2008 12:36:59 PM , Rating: 2
Considering the parent to your reply, it is more a Dune reference....where HL2 got the idea for the thumpers.


By Spivonious on 9/4/2008 4:55:30 PM , Rating: 2
Correctamundo.


By SoCalBoomer on 9/4/2008 3:19:51 PM , Rating: 2
Try Dune (referring back through the post to the original, talking about the worms. . .)


£65m can build 20 hectares?
By scmarney on 9/4/2008 1:05:08 AM , Rating: 1
That's over $1,000 per square foot or roughly the price of Manhattan condos. Not a place one could afford to be growing tomatoes.




By onelittleindian on 9/4/2008 1:08:04 AM , Rating: 1
That's just the estimated purchase cost. Wait till you see the maintenance bills!


RE: £65m can build 20 hectares?
By AnnoyedGrunt on 9/4/2008 2:45:57 AM , Rating: 2
I am finding the area of 1 hectare to be ~100,000 square feet. So that makes 20 hectares equal to over 2 million square feet, which puts the price at ~$32 per square foot. How did you get to $1000? Am I missing something?


RE: £65m can build 20 hectares?
By Visual on 9/4/2008 6:45:40 AM , Rating: 2
i'm too lazy to bother with math, but google can do it instead of me. your figure seems closer to the truth than those $1000 :)
http://www.google.com/search?q=%C2%A365million%2F2...
still you got something messed up, probably the currency conversion.

or maybe it depends on how big your feet are, i don't know. personally i prefer it in some more sensible measurement units, like what google defaults to:
http://www.google.com/search?q=%C2%A365million%2F2...
it is quite expensive - i think there are still a lot of places in the world where you can find agricultural land for 100 times cheaper prices. but given the circumstances, it might still be a good deal.


RE: £65m can build 20 hectares?
By shin0bi272 on 9/4/2008 12:23:05 PM , Rating: 2
65,000,000 British Pound = 115,504,350 US Dollar
20 hectare = 2,152,782.083 square foot
sooo...
top divided by the bottom is
53.654 dollars/sqft


By shin0bi272 on 9/4/2008 12:26:18 PM , Rating: 2
Then again scmarney might have also been referring to the up keep cost of having a team of people clean the panels every day so that the sand that will inevitably cover them (ala the picture of the lettuce in the article) wont cause a power shortage.


RE: £65m can build 20 hectares?
By Ammohunt on 9/4/2008 2:59:01 PM , Rating: 2
Not to mention a faclity like this subject to ownership change between tribal lords in the region.


RE: £65m can build 20 hectares?
By scmarney on 9/6/2008 8:05:55 AM , Rating: 2
I retract my horribly incorrect calculation!


Sahara vs Mars
By wet on 9/3/2008 9:39:54 PM , Rating: 3
One thing though, there isn't seawaters in Mars that forms the integral component in this concept. I think it's a concept worth further exploration. - wet




RE: Sahara vs Mars
By Kiijibari on 9/4/2008 2:49:27 AM , Rating: 2
Yes but there's ice. That's not much difference to water ^^


RE: Sahara vs Mars
By ViroMan on 9/4/2008 3:23:13 AM , Rating: 2
except that your gana need more energy to melt that ice...


RE: Sahara vs Mars
By shin0bi272 on 9/4/2008 12:13:24 PM , Rating: 2
Last I heard NASA wasnt even sure if thats water or frozen carbon dioxide yet.


Sandstorms...
By kilkennycat on 9/3/2008 11:30:47 PM , Rating: 3
... are the norm for almost all areas of the Sahara. (Sahara dust actually crosses the Atlantic and when present is a beneficial force in limiting the intensity of Atlantic hurricanes.) Any energy-producing system for the desert that does not have specific details as to how the effects of sandstorms would be counteracted is immediately suspect. For example, if you want to know the damaging effects of sand on machinery, ask any US armed-forces mechanic returning from Iraq. As for the sandblast effect on solar panels and wind-turbine blades.. and the ingress of fine highly-abrasive grit into wind-turbines....




RE: Sandstorms...
By foolsgambit11 on 9/4/2008 2:42:19 PM , Rating: 2
And hurricanes are the norm for almost all areas of the Caribbean. That doesn't mean they're happening all of the time. Yes, there are drawbacks. But with proper manning and preparation, I'm sure the effects could be minimized. I'd imagine Oman and the UAE are pretty familiar with the effects of sandstorms - considering Al-Rub' Al-Khali, "the Empty Quarter" comprises a large portion of both countries. And yet, they are interested. They're not morons.


Correct Implementation
By Radnor on 9/4/2008 5:53:56 AM , Rating: 2
If done wisely is a good test for spacial colonization. As for Mars, well, we DO know how to WARM a planet don't we ? I guess mars can be terraformed. Terra forming the Sahara is a great first step. And getting free power as well.

Those commentaries of sand storms are funny. But stop there. These greenhouses they are planning is the first step to stabilize the sands, like we in Europe, plant trees and bushes in terrains were there is a danger of landslide.

It seems a sound, concise, mid/long term plan. If done correctly i'm all for it.




RE: Correct Implementation
By Ringold on 9/5/2008 1:24:00 AM , Rating: 2
Taming the Sahara is a little different then replanting trees on a continent that not all that long ago historically was, if I'm not mistaken, a giant forest.

The US and China both have used lines of planted trees and whatnot to hold back desertification, but I don't know you ever (on a human scale) turn massive areas of sand in to soil.

And not sure why comments on sand storms are funny and should stop. The Mars rovers face the same problem, and have been saved only because dust devils or whatever you call them have hit the rovers, blowing the collecting sand off their solar panels. There's been times here in Florida where dust from Africa has been news worthy; if it can get all the way over here, it can surely dump on the mirrors at this facility. It's not necessarily a show stopper, but a valid issue.


RE: SKEPTICS
By Raul Duke on 9/4/2008 12:48:34 PM , Rating: 2
I love skeptics but I hate lazy uneducated skeptics. The skeptics who have a knee jerk reactionary stance to any green technologies that might come up. Is this plan perfect and ready to go into effect today no! Are there challenges in constructing such a facility of course! But they are just challenges, if we can keep the ocean waters out of Amsterdam and New Orleans we can probably figure out a way to make this work. If we can build the three gorges damn I think we can put some f'ing glass in the f'ing desert it ain't that complicated. If we can go to the moon and back i think we can keep solar panels clean in death valley or the Sahara. Of course we need skeptics like you to remind society how hard things are but once we hear how hard it is, its usually best to just get to work and stop whining that its to hard! Its not as if we have a choice, I mean if we don't start developing clean power today in fifty years this world will be a smoldering ball of ash and s@#t!.




RE: SKEPTICS
By whiskerwill on 9/4/2008 3:57:49 PM , Rating: 1
You're not getting it. We don't have to "figure out" how to make this work. We could have done it 30 years ago. In fact, this sounds almost identical to some of the 70s "biome" projects I remember.

The problem is that we still have billions of acres of GOOD land not being used, that can grow food a hundred times cheaper than things like this. So other than a tech demo, these ideas are pretty much worthless.


Looks Nice ...
By Supa on 9/4/2008 3:19:14 AM , Rating: 2
But who will guard all these infrastructure?

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Just leave nature do its job!
By zac206 on 9/4/08, Rating: 0
By shin0bi272 on 9/4/2008 12:27:49 PM , Rating: 2
Gotta feed the desert animals some how LOL


The Spice must flow...
By SilthDraeth on 9/4/2008 3:05:23 PM , Rating: 2
If we terraform the Sahara desert the worms will die, and intergalactic travel will cease to exist.




ahem
By kjboughton on 9/3/08, Rating: 0
We don't know how to make a $500 computer that's not a piece of junk." -- Apple CEO Steve Jobs














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