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New single-chip MCPs confirmed for mid-2007 on Intel platforms

DailyTech had the opportunity to sit down with NVIDIA insiders and discuss upcoming chipset technology.  NVIDIA's nForce 590 Intel chipset might not have grabbed as many headlines as the company would have liked in 2006, but that will not deter the company from giving it another shot in 2007. 

MCP73 is NVIDIA's headline integrated graphics chipset for Intel in 2007. It will come in no less than three flavors.  The main chipset, dubbed MCP73P, is a 1333MHz front-side bus chipset.  A cut down version of the same chipset, dubbed MCP73PV, will only feature a 1066MHz FSB.  Our sources would not reveal the third chipset, although is it likely a derivative that does not feature integrated graphics.

MCP73 will launch with single-channel DDR2-667 support only. No SLI support will be present either, but a single PCIe x16 interface will allow users to upgrade to a more powerful graphics solution.

Intel's Bearlake chipset will initially come in two varieties at launch in Q2 2007, G35 and G33.  G33 is very similar to MCP73P, though NVIDIA's integrated graphics cores have always performed better than Intel's in real world testing and benchmarks.  However, Intel may have the advantage in timing; MCP73 is not expected to launch until June 2007.

NVIDIA CEO Jen-Hsun Huang confirmed to DailyTech MCP73 is on its way. "We believe that Intel based customers will demand the NVIDIA GeForce branded motherboard GPUs and we expect an enthusiastic response to our launch later this year," he commented.

NVIDIA would not disclose to DailyTech which GPU the core utilizes, but a low end G70 core is likely the best candidate.  MCP73 IGP will feature integrated HDMI and HDCP support.


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G70 core...... hmm....?
By kilkennycat on 2/13/2007 7:54:18 PM , Rating: 2
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NVIDIA would not disclose to DailyTech which GPU the core utilizes, but a low end G70 core is likely the best candidate.


....and why not a modest version of the G80 core? Seems more in line with where next-gen hardware is headed with Vista/DX10....




RE: G70 core...... hmm....?
By Goty on 2/13/2007 8:01:18 PM , Rating: 3
Transistor budget, thermal envelope, and power consumption are all concerns that would make a G80 derived core infeasible.


RE: G70 core...... hmm....?
By politicalslug on 2/13/2007 8:01:21 PM , Rating: 3
good call. intel's new chipset features a direct x 10 integrated gpu. albeit a rediculously low end one, but nevertheless it'll look better on paper (sales sticker) and that'll boost sales more than the name 'nvidia' will.


RE: G70 core...... hmm....?
By cheetah2k on 2/13/07, Rating: 0
RE: G70 core...... hmm....?
By Goty on 2/13/2007 8:34:13 PM , Rating: 2
You can't use a high-end GPU of ANY kind for the same reasons I stated above.

"Compact" still isn't small enough (considering it must fit into the die space of a north/southbridge), the power draw is only low in comparison to the desktop parts (still wayyy too much for a chipset), and to reach decent performance for the price, you'd have to integrate the graphics memory onto the mainboard (seeing as accessing main system memory would kill your performance). Every single one of those reasons stops them from integrating a high-end GPU into a chipset.

There's a reason that you don't see and never have seen a high-end GPU integrated into a motherboard: it's just not feasible.


RE: G70 core...... hmm....?
By KristopherKubicki (blog) on 2/13/2007 9:05:30 PM , Rating: 3
NVIDIA has confirmed with me its a 7-series GPU.


By therealnickdanger on 2/14/2007 9:17:58 AM , Rating: 2
Lame. If Intel can do DX10 integrated, NVIDIA should be right there as well. I wonder if this idea of a 7-series GPU is just the 6100 rebranded as the 7050?


What about...
By PrezWeezy on 2/13/2007 6:57:55 PM , Rating: 2
I think all the new chipsets being released from NVidia are all well and good, but I'd love to see an Intel 975x mobo that features SLI instead of Crossfire. So if you're reading NVidia that's what we want...er...what I want. And from the Intel people I've talked to, it's what they want too.




RE: What about...
By tigen on 2/13/2007 7:53:30 PM , Rating: 2
It's the same damn thing. The only thing preventing one or the other are the drivers involved.


RE: What about...
By Symbyant on 2/13/2007 8:18:21 PM , Rating: 1
Well since they're the same thing, ATi sure must be kicking themselves in the butt hard right now if they could have gotten rid of the crossfire dongle and master card with a simple driver tweak. Likewise nVidia must be really upset about the fact that a driver update would allow them to run cards based on different graphics cores in SLI mode. Oh yeah, and lets not forget that with a simple driver tweak I could use Radeons in an SLI setup and GeForce's in a crossfire setup. The two technologies ARE different, way more so than just a driver issue and there are benefits and detriments to each of these technologies. Know what you're talking about before you rail on someone for expressing their opinion.


RE: What about...
By Goty on 2/13/2007 8:29:40 PM , Rating: 2
I think what he means is that each could work on any chipset, which still isn't entirely true. Crossfire can work on pretty much any chipset, as seen with the Intel-based 975X and P965 boards, but I do believe that there is a specific architectural requirement built into NVIDIA chipsets that allows for SLI to work (hence why it hasn't been licensed out yet).


RE: What about...
By Symbyant on 2/13/2007 8:35:16 PM , Rating: 2
ah I see what he means now. Makes more sense. Sorry to all for being so jumpy. I've had far too much caffine and far too little sleep. :-/


RE: What about...
By jkresh on 2/14/2007 2:39:27 PM , Rating: 2
actually their are people running sli (with hacked drivers) on 975 boards. They definitely show an improvement over single card but the 8x/16x and possibly some chipset issues keep it behind running sli on a 680i. Its possible the only sli they got working was the 7950 (which while 1 card is to chips and still requires sli to work), but I am not sure.


RE: What about...
By PrezWeezy on 2/14/2007 6:26:48 PM , Rating: 2
If you wouldn't mind providing some sources for that I'd love to see them. Not trying to be snippy but I'm just interested in how that works. From what I understood there were chipset requirements for each technology.


Weak-ass hardware!
By joey2264 on 2/13/2007 8:58:17 PM , Rating: 1
Who the hell does Nvidia think they are?!!? Single-channel DDR2-667 only, and no SLI!!?? The is so far below top of the line its not even funny.




RE: Weak-ass hardware!
By FuzionMonkey on 2/13/2007 9:55:26 PM , Rating: 2
It is their budget model. It has integrated graphics. It is not meant to be "top of the line"


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