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Block Diagram for Intel EP80579 Integrated Processor  (Source: HotHardware)
New System on a Chip will lead to smaller Internet connected devices that need less power

Intel held a conference call this week to talk about its line of new System on a Chip (SoC) designs. The branding for the new SoC’s will be Intel EP90579 according to HotHardware. The product line is based on the Intel Pentium M processor core and integrates a Memory Controller Hub (MCH), I/O Hub (ICH) and some chips in the line will also get specialized security, data path acceleration and TDM. The optional services are called Intel Quick Assist Technology.

Development began on the Intel EP80579 line to get ready for all of the internet-connected devices that are hitting the market and will be hitting market in the months and years to come. Intel’s Gadi Singer said, “We’re now able to deliver more highly integrated products ranging from industrial robotics and in-car infotainment systems to set-top boxes, MIDs and other devices.  By designing more complex systems onto smaller chips, Intel will scale the performance, functionality and software compatibility of IA while controlling the overall power, cost and size requirements to better meet respective market need.”

The big benefits of the new Intel EP80579 SoC line are small size and low power needs. Intel says that the SoC will lead to platforms using up to 45% smaller board footprints and platforms that feature up to 34% lower power dissipation. One of the biggest benefits is that the new SoC’s run standard x86 architecture which will make software and applications easier to port to devices using the EP80579.

The different components of the SoC will communicate over an internal front side bus on the chip that connects the processor core, MCH and ICH. Intel also says it has developed a high performance bus to connect the security, TDM, and data path engines to the I/O complex.

Future products in the Intel EP80579 Integrated Processor family will be based on the Atom processor.



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Another money maker
By crystal clear on 7/25/2008 10:10:08 AM , Rating: 2

Prefer to refer to the Intel press release-

Intel Outlines Plans for New Category of Smarter, Purpose-Built 'System on Chip' Designs, Products
First Eight Products Target Applications for Security, Storage and Communications

Intel has more than 15 SoC projects planned internally, including the company's first Consumer Electronics (CE) chip codenamed "Canmore" scheduled for introduction later this year and the second-generation "Sodaville" next year. In addition, Intel's second-generation embedded product line is scheduled to arrive in 2009, with Intel's next-generation platform for Mobile Internet Devices code-named "Moorestown" and featuring "Lincroft," scheduled for release in 2009/2010. Many of these new products will be based on the Intel® Atom™ processor core. All of these chips will provide increased performance and energy efficiency, along with the ability for customization, leading to faster development schedules and time-to-market delivery for customers while bringing more innovation, choice and lower costs to consumers.

"We're now able to deliver more highly integrated products ranging from industrial robotics and in-car infotainment systems to set-top boxes, MIDs and other devices. By designing more complex systems onto smaller chips, Intel will scale the performance, functionality and software compatibility of IA while controlling the overall power, cost and size


http://www.intel.com/pressroom/archive/releases/20...




RE: Another money maker
By TennesseeTony on 7/25/2008 11:05:03 AM , Rating: 2
"... The branding for the new SoC’s will be Intel EP90579..."

I'm confused, is it EP-NINE0579 or EP-Eight0579 as the title and the picture suggests?

If it is EP80579, why bother with this entry, as Anandtech ran a full article on it the day before this blog entry?


RE: Another money maker
By crystal clear on 7/25/2008 11:13:33 AM , Rating: 2
Product Brief
Intel® EP80579 Integrated Processor

Intel® EP80579 Integrated Processor
for Embedded Computing
Complete System-on-a-Chip for Communications,
Storage and Embedded Designs

http://download.intel.com/design/intarch/ep80579/3...


RE: Another money maker
By Master Kenobi (blog) on 7/25/2008 11:06:48 AM , Rating: 3
Intel's rolling with all hands on board right now. Between solid revenue, the pushed up Nehalem launch into September, the demand for Atom, and now this, they seem to have all their ducks in a row. Only question left is the entry into discrete graphics, if that turns out to be halfway decent this should be an outstanding year for Intel.


RE: Another money maker
By Mojo the Monkey on 7/25/2008 11:47:36 AM , Rating: 2
regarding the move into discrete; do you have any info on this? I've heard nothing but rumors/speculation. Are there any projected specs?


RE: Another money maker
By Master Kenobi (blog) on 7/25/2008 11:59:03 AM , Rating: 2
Your guess is as good as mine. Intel seems to be very hush hush about it all.


RE: Another money maker
By crystal clear on 7/25/2008 12:44:48 PM , Rating: 2

Intel's recent fourth quarter earnings conference call contained more surprises than just slightly lower-than-expected earnings. In response to an analyst's question about a timeframe for company's forthcoming discrete graphics product, codenamed Larrabee, Intel CEO Paul Otellini spilled the beans. "Larabee first silicon should be late this year in terms of samples and we'll start playing with it and sampling it to developers," said Otellini. "I still think we are on track for a product in late 2009, 2010 timeframe."



http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080117-larr...

Intel will have to persuade game developers to build their engines around the new part, and that will take time.


RE: Another money maker
By erikejw on 7/25/2008 12:22:29 PM , Rating: 2
2 Giga flop computing power late 2009 or 2010 with Larrabee. That equates to a chip that is faster than the GTX 280 or HD 4700.

ATi and Nvidia will have faster solutions by then but the Intel chip will be a very good mainstream chip.


RE: Another money maker
By Clauzii on 7/25/2008 8:14:48 PM , Rating: 2
Oh, You mean "2 TERA flop"!


RE: Another money maker
By crystal clear on 7/26/2008 8:26:42 AM , Rating: 1
quote:
ATi and Nvidia will have faster solutions by then


I can tell this -

Be sure the Intel solution will knock out both AMD & Nvidia.

After integrating HAVOK technologies & years of R&D for what a mainstream chip ?

No way, be sure to get a rock solid product & a performance winner.

This is NOT fanboyism but based on access to hardcore information .



RE: Another money maker
By JustTom on 7/27/2008 1:27:58 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
This is NOT fanboyism but based on access to hardcore information .


So you are claiming to have specific insider information for Intel, NVidia, AND AMD?


RE: Another money maker
By dare2savefreedom on 7/27/2008 2:06:27 PM , Rating: 2
Itanium it is unstoppable!!!! FTW

you are right intel has never been wrong,

cpu with math problems, pentium4, itanium, the glorious list goes on


RE: Another money maker
By Mojo the Monkey on 7/30/2008 1:07:33 PM , Rating: 2
yeah, just like their smashing x3100 dx10 compatible integrated video chip. I have one, what a god damned joke. That was supposed to steal the _300 market from Nvidia and ATI/AMD right?

I simply do not believe you


RE: Another money maker
By crystal clear on 7/25/2008 12:13:29 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Only question left is the entry into discrete graphics, if that turns out to be halfway decent this should be an outstanding year for Intel.


That could be the K.O. punch for AMD...

As for the Nehalems launch -the first clue sent out by Intel was the price cuts recently announced.

Most notably, the price of the top-of-line Core 2 Duo - the 3.1GHZ E8500 - dropped from $266 to $183, a 31 per cent plunge. The slightly slower E8400 also received a cut, an 11 per cent drop from $183 to $163. And at the lower end of the Core 2 Duo line, Intel lopped 15 per cent from the price of the E7200, a 2.53GHz chip with a 3M L2 cache and a 1066MHz front side bus.

Over on the server side, the company slashed away on three low-end Xeon chips: the 2.40GHz X3220 (12 per cent), 2.13GHz X3210 (also 12 per cent), and the 3GHZ E3110 (11 per cent).

Meanwhile, the Core 2 Quad Q6600 - a 65nm desktop chip - is now 14 per cent cheaper. The prices of all other chips are unchanged.


http://files.shareholder.com/downloads/INTC/364725...

They have already started their inventory clearance...

Only wish I could have given you that link from Intel - INDIA page (now access restricted or page pull down).

They gave a detailed product roadmap with just everything you did not know & would like to read.

Have a nice day........


...
By voodooboy on 7/25/2008 11:06:58 AM , Rating: 2
Not to sound like a member from the Rambus legal department, but it's QuickAssist without the space in between.

Also, I'm not sure if you're referring to those individual units in the "Acceleration and I/O complex" as QuckAssist...it's actually the framework for allowing programmability of those FPGA-like units that's referred to as QuickAssist.




RE: ...
By Master Kenobi (blog) on 7/25/2008 11:09:48 AM , Rating: 2
Given that Intel and Rambus were in bed together at one point, it would not surprise me if Intel has a deal to get way with using this sort of thing.


RE: ...
By voodooboy on 7/25/2008 11:45:58 AM , Rating: 2
That's not what I meant. I didn't mean to imply that QuickAssist is a Rambus patented technology.
What I meant to say was, the term coined by Intel is "QuickAssist" without the space in between. And RAMBUS has a whole page dedicated to how different "parties" should spell their product/brand names.

So by pointing that out...I didn't want to make myself sound like I am/was working for the Rambus legal department.

You can have a look at it here...funny sh!t..

http://www.rambus.com/us/news/trademark_guidelines...


RE: ...
By Master Kenobi (blog) on 7/25/2008 12:01:03 PM , Rating: 2
They seem to be pretty uptight about it all.


RE: ...
By voodooboy on 7/25/2008 12:16:27 PM , Rating: 3
Uptight? :D Seriously? Nothing else came to your mind when you read all that non-sense? I'm sure the webmaster for Rambus must've broken some of his bones while rolling down the stairs laughing...


RE: ...
By KC7SWH on 7/25/2008 5:01:24 PM , Rating: 2
Good thing I don't work in a PR department as english was never a very good subject for me in school. Most of it was greek to me :-)


WELCOME
By JonnyDough on 7/25/2008 4:14:01 PM , Rating: 2
to the future of the PC.

With consoles pushing out PC gaming (along with pirating) we'll be having single chip consoles AND PC's before long taking over the market.

Why?

Because Intel and AMD (and maybe NVidia?) can create a mere 5 chips that each hit a different market segment. These chips will be non-replaceable as they will be embedded onto a board. However, the board will be small and cheaper to replace with the chip than an entire motherboard (socket and other component matching parts)/ram/processor would be.

Think of it this way. Computer too slow? Replace it for a 1-200 hundred bucks. It's tiny, taking up a space the size of pocket dictionary on your desktop at most. Wireless integration means you plug in maybe just a few things. Monitor to power, speakers to power, computer box to power. Everything else is wireless communication.

Who needs games on the PC when you've got a console that can do it? Monitors and tv's both use HDMI, so if you want to you can plug your console into your monitor for gaming.

It's just one step towards having an entire house with a single PC that controls everything. For now, PCs and consoles are going their own way. Once PCs become so powerful and energy efficient though, you will see a re-convergence as the PC moves into home integration. Why do we need our microwaves and washing machines to have their own clocking hardware and their own software? I imagine a day when a main home PC will have the hardware and software on it that appliances throughout the house will need.

Some of you don't get what I'm trying to say yet. So let me put it another way. You buy a new washing machine. You're not just paying for the bucket and the electric motor to spin it. You're also paying for the embedded computer chip that regulates the time each load takes, and that tells it when to begin filling up with water, and to stop filling up with water. It's another part that can go need replacement, and another part you pay for every time you purchase an appliance. If you moved all of the processing from all of your appliances into a single system in your house, the appliances would become a lot cheaper. This includes virtually anything that keeps a clock for timing of cycles, etc. Furthermore, a home PC can call a repairman should something go awry. Not to mention, a powerful PC can have self-checking systems.

Open to comment.




RE: WELCOME
By crystal clear on 7/26/2008 6:12:27 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Who needs games on the PC when you've got a console that can do it? Monitors and tv's both use HDMI, so if you want to you can plug your console into your monitor for gaming.


Why should the users/consumers buy a console ?

The mainstream buyers who provide 90% of the revvenues are infact casual gamers.
They prefer to use the money saved for other purposes.

AMD did this market research & as result they sell you the AMD GAME package-cheap & of good quality & even better than a game console.

AMD made gaming affordable as they recognized the mainstream buyer as a source of huge revenues.

They the mainstream buyers are NOT interested in a game console rather want it on their PCs-

All packaged in one unit-regular computer usage plus gaming plus other entertainment usage like watching movies etc via their HDTV or monitors etc.

Game developers know that the mainstream buyers are casual gamers ! & use their PCs & do buy a game console.

quote:
If you moved all of the processing from all of your appliances into a single system in your house, the appliances would become a lot cheaper. This includes virtually anything that keeps a clock for timing of cycles, etc. Furthermore, a home PC can call a repairman should something go awry. Not to mention, a powerful PC can have self-checking systems.


Indeed very futurist ! but in practice NOT feaseble.

Maybe good for IT pros but certainly NOT for the ordinary mainstream buyers.

Example- Windows Home Server !

The mainstream buyers are not ready to buy it yet-consumer adoptions is slow-it will take another 8 to 10 years till the consumers come to accept it.

Remember Consumer adoption is very slow & time consuming & they are very price consicious.

Even something simple as the switch over DVD to Blu Ray is a very very slow process.

No mainstream buyers - No revenues - No product.


RE: WELCOME
By crystal clear on 7/26/2008 6:26:38 AM , Rating: 2
Sorry for those typing errors-
Should read
"Game developers know that the mainstream buyers are casual gamers ! & use their PCs & DONT buy a game console."


RE: WELCOME
By JonnyDough on 7/26/2008 1:19:54 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
The mainstream buyers who provide 90% of the revvenues are infact casual gamers. They prefer to use the money saved for other purposes.


Tell that to the millions that own a console.

Mainstream buyers of what? Computing devices? A large portion of that ARE consoles.

There's two major reasons that consoles sell. All the gaming, none of the extra cost of a PC. Ease of use. Without these it would make more sense to buy a PC.

quote:
They the mainstream buyers are NOT interested in a game console rather want it on their PCs- All packaged in one unit-regular computer usage plus gaming plus other entertainment usage like watching movies etc via their HDTV or monitors etc. Game developers know that the mainstream buyers are casual gamers ! & use their PCs & do buy a game console.


I'm not entirely sure what you're saying there. People put media on an XBox, and at the same time others would rather have NAS (network attached storage). They, the mainstream buyers ARE interested in a game console - otherwise they would not be buying consoles.

I mentioned that eventually consoles and PCs would re-converge.

A networked PC for your entire home is NOT an IT-only idea. Why do you have to have IT experience to plug something in? It will be automated. You don't have to have an IT degree to plug something into the wall, or to use your alarm system. I think plug and play appliances would be just fine.

Your dryer and microwave would be WIRELESSLY connected to your basement PC. Enter your home server code and walla. Your PC downloads the software automatically from the internet and your microwave now works. The only internal electronics it requires are the microwave emitter and an LCD display. No more internal chip to purchase, thus saving you cash and future landfill space/toxins.

quote:
The mainstream buyers are not ready to buy it yet-consumer adoptions is slow-it will take another 8 to 10 years till the consumers come to accept it


8-10? How did you come up with those numbers? Maybe 20. Maybe 5. Maybe 50 years. The whole idea here is that it's in the future.

quote:
Remember Consumer adoption is very slow & time consuming & they are very price consicious.


Yes. But if you can convince early adopters that there a technology will be viable in the future AND save them money in the long run they will be willing to part with their cash. I for one look forward to a greener, cheaper, more centralized way of doing things in my home.


RE: WELCOME
By crystal clear on 7/27/2008 6:50:04 AM , Rating: 2
Hi there,

I will try to make my response as short as possible-

1) Note in my earlier response to you, I added on a coorection due to a typing error.

2) I provide you a link here to show you how slow consumer adoption can be.

Home servers may render CD racks obsolete

http://www.reuters.com/article/technologyNews/idUS...

3) Yes I like your idea of a centralized system to control home appliances.

Maybe M.S. "Windows Home Server" is the first step in that direction.

4) When I refer to mainstream buyers - I refer to buyers of computers for HOME use.

Not everybody own a console but they certainly have one or more P.C.s in their homes & those who own a Console also have P.C.s in their homes.

There is no research report/paper that claims consoles outsell regular P.C.s

Anyway to cut it short- As an idea.....

Hardware + software manufacturere + OEMs together can make your idea feaseble.

The likes of H.P. Dell etc can make it a success.

4)


RE: WELCOME
By JonnyDough on 7/28/2008 5:39:46 PM , Rating: 1
HP and Dell will likely not be the ones to design and sell central PC's. It will take a GROUP of companies to implement such a thing.

quote:
Not everybody own a console but they certainly have one or more P.C.s in their homes & those who own a Console also have P.C.s in their homes.


I doubt this. Many homes (try inner-city America) do not own a PC or even have internet. They may however have an old tv and a new XBox or PS3. If you can show me some stastical data showing that people that own a console also own a PC I will change my stance.


Just a thought
By ineedaname on 7/25/2008 2:39:01 PM , Rating: 2
IMO SoC design is a good and bad thing. Yes its great for use in some portable units for now but where is Intel going to take this?

They may very well become the next MS by forcing people to buy their "complete packaged computers". You would be forced to buy whatever Intel forces down your throat since everything's on chip. That really reduces consumer choice and ultimately limits competition. Not 2 mention it would b near impossible 2 fix broken parts anymore. You'd have to just throw it out and buy a new one if one part dies on u.

I'm not calling the "world is falling" cuz it depends on what direction Intel takes this but as like any money grubbing company, there's a good chance of this happening.




RE: Just a thought
By crystal clear on 7/26/2008 4:39:05 AM , Rating: 2
Just to remind you these chips (if you read the press release carefully) I quote below again , have usage from-

We're now able to deliver more highly integrated products ranging from industrial robotics and in-car infotainment systems to set-top boxes, MIDs and other devices.

These chips are not sold to you directly rather to OEMs for use in their products.

All your complaints are to be directed towards OEMs !

They (OEMs) are the companies that you deal with directly through your dealers/sellers/resellers etc.

Intel only provides certain (crucial) parts that need to go into the final product that the OEMs design/manufacture.

If your OEM/dealers/sellers/resellers/retailers act or behave etc to as you say-

That really reduces consumer choice and ultimately limits competition. Not 2 mention it would b near impossible 2 fix broken parts anymore. You'd have to just throw it out and buy a new one if one part dies on u.


Then blame them the OEMs & NOT INTEL !

You say -

They may very well become the next MS by forcing people to buy their "complete packaged computers".

M.S. doe not do that rather APPLE computers does just that !!!!

They (APPPLE) force you to buy their "complete packaged computers".

The real money grabbing comapnies are the OEMs /dealers /retailers /resellers etc

They are the ones you should be attacking/accusing of-

That really reduces consumer choice and ultimately limits competition


RE: Just a thought
By JonnyDough on 7/26/2008 1:32:49 PM , Rating: 1
Intel has been designing complete systems for years. AMD is now marketing a platform, and NVidia is nearing the same. VIA also is in this picture.

With four large companies (Intel and NV obviously the largest two here) being able to compete with entire platforms and not just parts one would soon be ousted for sure. However, what we would have is a simpler computing solution, no more need to match parts. Choose a motherboard a case, and a power supply. There would still be a HUGE selection of features. The difference is you wouldn't have to install as many parts, as they would be embedded.

This lowers manufacturing costs, time spent matching parts, energy usage, ignorant customer returns, etc. All of which benefit both them and us (the consumer). Intel, AMD, and NVidia are all aware of this little fact - and they're all trying to get there first. It's why NVidia is looking at making processors (they already make chipsets, GPUs, drivers, software, etc). It's why AMD bought ATi, and is now marketing the Spider platform. It's why Intel is trying to build a system on a chip.

It does "reduce choice." But it doesn't mean we get gyped. We get better tech at lower prices that is guaranteed to work as advertised. The industry is just changing, and it's for the better. Besides, you still get to choose from several companies (until one falls under - this is the problem with monopolization, but monopolization also puts all resources into one bank so that bank can do great things) and you still get a choice of which all-in-one chip to buy from that vendor. Part of the reason these companies are doing this too is to cut out their middle men (the manufacturers like Sapphire, HIS, Powercolor, EVGA, etc). It's a way for the big tech designers to move manufacturing inhouse so they make more bucks, and to obtain more control over final product. Read about the recent stink with NVidia notebook graphics problems and you'll know what I mean.


By xrkn on 7/27/2008 8:26:02 PM , Rating: 2
I would be interested to see if Intel could provide SoC boards in a regular, socketed form factor. When the machine is doing office-type tasks it could power down the main CPU and run on the (presumably more power efficient) SoC processor only, then fire up the main CPU for more processor-intensive tasks.

If Intel and nVidia were able to get over their rivalry for the moment and provide a SoC+HybridSLI solution it would be a pretty nice step toward a more power-efficient computer that still has performance when you need it.




By JonnyDough on 7/28/2008 5:42:34 PM , Rating: 1
Why bother with two processors when you can turn parts of a single die off?


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By wonwhole on 7/27/2008 4:02:04 AM , Rating: 2
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