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Samsung smaller tablet finally gets a referesh

Over the course of this year Samsung Electronics Comp., Ltd. (SEO 005930) has rounded out its tablet lineup with the 5.3-inch Galaxy Note slab (Sept.), the 7.7-inch Galaxy Tab 7.7 tablet (Sept.), the 8.9-inch Galaxy Tab 8.9 tablet (Aug.), and the 10.1-inch Galaxy Tab 10.1 tablet (Feb.).  But the original 7-inch Galaxy Tab (Sept. 2010) remained untouched.  And it was starting to look a bit long in the tooth, compared to its other Galaxy family members.

But Samsung just dropped some happy news for prospective Android tablet buyers.  It's refreshing the original Galaxy Tab, rebranding it the "Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus".  

Pretty much everything about the new 7-inch tablet is better than its predecessor.  It's thinner: 9.96 mm vs. 11.98 mm in the previous gen.; it's light: 345 g vs. 380 g; it's faster: 1.2 GHz dual-core Exynos ARM Cortex A9, 1 GB of DRAM vs. 1.0 GHz unicore Hummingbird Cortex A8, 512 MB of DRAM.

And it's been upgraded from Android 2.2 "Froyo"/Android 2.3 "Gingerbread" -- distributions better suited for smart phones -- to Android 3.2 "Honeycomb".  It also bumps the resolution on the front-facing camera slightly from 1.3 MP to 2 MP, for better video chat image quality.

Galaxy Tab 7 Plus, seen from different views

Strangely the tablet will first be available in Indonesia and Austria in mid-October.  We're guessing that decision has something to do with the legal mess [1][2][3][4][5] Samsung finds itself in, in its war of lawsuits with Apple, Inc. (AAPL).  Samsung says that in coming months the tablet will "gradually rolled to (sic) globally including Southeast and Southwest Asia, US, Europe, CIS, Latin America, Middle East, Africa, Japan and China."

Hopefully it rolls into the U.S. before the end of holiday shopping, as we're guessing more than a few prospective buyers might be interested in snagging this petite, yet powerful Honeycomb tablet.

Here's a quick reminder of what the Samsung Galaxy product family now looks like, for prospective buyers:
Galaxy Product family

Source: Samsung



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BUT... how much?
By therealnickdanger on 9/30/2011 9:12:47 AM , Rating: 2
The tablet to beat now is the Kindle Fire. I don't expect this new Galaxy to be $199 since it will likely be more powerful, but $249? Maybe $299? I'd be hard pressed to pay much more than that for any tablet. If they follow suit with their past releases and try to price this at $469 or $449, I don't think it will work. Samsung is a strong brand, but not that strong.




RE: BUT... how much?
By Boze on 9/30/2011 11:43:24 AM , Rating: 2
Yeah, as I read the article I came to the same conclusion.

With the Kindle Fire announcement, I've finally found a tablet that does what I want, for a price I can live with. Already pre-ordered 4 of them for myself and family.

And I'm really looking forward to Amazon's real iPad competitor, the 10 inch tablet they'll be releasing "soon" according to that Amazon exec that was interviewed at the launch event.

If Amazon can match iPad 2 or 3 specs and do it for $350 to $399, then we're going to see a really interesting time for tablets.

As I said on Wednesday in the Kindle Fire article posted that day, I think we're seeing the beginning of the end of the iPad's market share dominance. Very exciting time for investors and consumers.


RE: BUT... how much?
By Aikouka on 9/30/2011 11:53:20 AM , Rating: 2
I'm not sure how being priced at $399 will necessarily help. The reason for my uncertainty is because ASUS's Transformer released at $399 as well, and while it sold very well in the beginning, you don't see it being touted as an "iPad killer."

I think the market wants to see innovation and/or a low price. I'll admit that I own an iPad and a TouchPad, and what would get me to buy an Android tablet is most likely the Transformer 2. That's of course if the SoC doesn't have some of the media issues that the Transformer 1 has. I absolutely love the idea of the keyboard dock, and if we had the "Aikouka Awards", I'd probably give it Best Tech Accessory of 2011.


RE: BUT... how much?
By priusone on 10/2/2011 12:57:52 AM , Rating: 2
Amazon is going to plaster the Fire all over their website. With that much marketting, and it's lower price, the Fire will be awesome to watch.


RE: BUT... how much?
By sigmatau on 9/30/2011 1:46:21 PM , Rating: 1
Sorry, but $399 is way too much for a tablet. You can get an i5 Sandybridge Laptop for that much or $50 more.


RE: BUT... how much?
By SilthDraeth on 9/30/2011 1:58:14 PM , Rating: 2
I may be getting four, however I am waiting until around Christmas, or early next year. If this new Galaxy tab is $249, or $299 I might bite for one, and get 3 of the other.

My wife actually liked what she saw of the Kindle Fire and she was bleh about most tablets. But she wants one for each kid, for loading kid stories on, and we can pretty much mount them in the kids room to play movies at night.


RE: BUT... how much?
By bug77 on 9/30/2011 3:06:15 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Already pre-ordered 4 of them for myself and family.


Has anyone confirmed you can actually download your purchases from the Amazon Cloud? I have only seen it mentioned that your purchases will go directly to the cloud, but nothing about being able to actually download it.


RE: BUT... how much?
By omnicronx on 9/30/2011 12:19:51 PM , Rating: 2
Unfortunately that tablet cannot be beat as it currently stands. While it may look like a great price now, the Fire could very well stiffle the progress of Android in the tablet marketspace.

You can't sell a decent tablet at 200-250 dollars as a normal hardware manufacturer and turn a reasonable profit. Whether you believe the price of a tablet is justified or not, Amazon is either making razor thin margins on these tablets or are taking a loss, knowing full well that the bread and butter of the entire project is the content that users will pay for afterwards. (similar to a console maker selling a console at a loss).

Believe it or not, even the iPad is very strategically priced at its 500 dollar entry price point. Even if it only costs ~350 dollars to create one, that does not account for all the R&D, marketing etc that they have spent. Just looking at the specs of the Fire, one can easily see these are merely tried and tested components, so I have my doubts that there was anywhere close to the money put into R&D as would occur with an Apple device. (the A4/A5 is a perfect example).

Personally I feel that for a normal hardware manufacturer to turn a decent profit with current component pricing, its going to need to be in the 400 dollar range. Anything lower is being subsidized, and most likely with shortcuts made (no camera or 3g etc etc) in one way or another.

Now of course you can't fault the consumer for buying a well priced product, but if people start to expect and think this is actually how much tablet hardware costs, there may be trouble on the horizon for certain manufacturers.


really
By sprockkets on 9/30/2011 10:57:02 AM , Rating: 3
A 7.7 inch tablet and 7"? I guess they have different screens and specs but, I'm trying to ask myself, why both?

I want the 5.3 if it is a phone as well.




RE: really
By aliasfox on 9/30/2011 1:22:51 PM , Rating: 2
That's kind of my thought as well - two phone sizes (3.5" and 4.5") and two tablet sizes (7" and 10") should adequately cover the market - having six or seven different devices that are differentiated by about an inch on the diagonal is just weird.

I doubt there's a huge R&D impact considering they all basically have the same internals, but it just doesn't seem like the 4.27" and the 4.5" and the 5.3" are really catering to different markets - or that the 7 and 7.7" can add any incremental sales. I'd even make an argument that 8.9" and 10.1" are close enough to not be a meaningful difference, either.


Screen Size
By ShaolinSoccer on 9/30/2011 10:51:03 AM , Rating: 3
I think the 7" size of tablets is a good idea. Especially for women who want to carry these in their purse. But I believe the 10" size of tablets is where it's really at. Nothing like coming home to mess around on the larger sized tablets. Having 3G or 4G in it is not too important to me because I don't travel much and the tablet would stay in the house where I have wifi internet and always will. It would be nice to be able to plug in a USB 3G/4G device when you do decided to take it on the road. Also, having a physical keyboard dock would be very important. I can never get used to typing on a flat screen. Being able to stream what I can hear and see on the tablet to my HDTV and stereo is also important. These companies are slowly getting there and prices are finally coming down. The future is looking bright!




spelling
By adiposity on 9/30/2011 12:15:55 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Samsung smaller tablet finally gets a referesh




resolution?
By michaelklachko on 9/30/2011 12:21:28 PM , Rating: 2
5.3'' one has 1280x720 resolution, but 7'' has 1024x600?

Does not make sense to me.




This could be good..
By teng029 on 9/30/2011 12:33:14 PM , Rating: 2
Here's hoping that this will be priced competitively. I am however starting to lose track of how many tablets Samsung is planning on releasing...




Fire Vs. Galaxy
By drewsup on 10/2/2011 9:32:36 AM , Rating: 2
The Fire looked nice until I saw no option for expandable memory, no HDMI out this equals FAIL in my book.
If I go to the trouble of spending a few C notes on a tablet, It DAMN sure better hold a good chunk of my media.
Google is using the Fire to sell cloud storage, pure and simple, and what if you're in a shitty reception reception area for Whispernet or whatever they call it now?
No thanks, the Galaxy is worth the extra $$.




By eldakka on 10/3/2011 8:25:28 PM , Rating: 2
but is it more useful?

The big failings I see with most tabs are their inability to simultaneously be:
1) plugged into a TV using a standard HDMI/mini-HDMI (i.e. no special adapter/breakout cables), and
2) have a USB mass storage device (thumbdrive or external HDD) plugged in using a standard USB/mini/micro cable (i.e. no special adapter/breakout cables), and
3) have the charger plugged in.

Unless I can do the above, I find the tablet lacking in utility.




Shill much?
By snakeInTheGrass on 9/30/11, Rating: -1
RE: Shill much?
By JasonMick (blog) on 9/30/2011 9:20:49 AM , Rating: 5
quote:
"Here's a quick reminder of what the Samsung Galaxy product family now looks like, for prospective buyers:"

Shill?

a) I don't own Samsung products.
b) I don't own Samsung stock.
c) I've received no compensation from Samsung.
d) I've criticized Samsung's TV lineup (much to some's chagrin) in past pieces:
http://www.dailytech.com/Samsungs+TV+App+Store+Pic...

I fail to see how providing a helpful infographic to readers/shoppers is being a "shill".

Oh right, you're trolling that's why.


RE: Shill much?
By quiksilvr on 9/30/2011 9:45:00 AM , Rating: 2
RE: Shill much?
By Boze on 9/30/2011 11:39:39 AM , Rating: 2
You shouldn't even acknowledge this with a response, Jason.

I'm glad you posted this image though, I had no idea Samsung had so many entries into the tablet market.

As I look through it, I really can't figure out what they're trying to do there. Looks like entirely too much overlap.


RE: Shill much?
By amanojaku on 9/30/2011 11:55:23 AM , Rating: 2
Looks like Samsung is trying to make a tablet that fits everyone's hands comfortably. Not everyone wants a 10", or a 4.5". I'm not sure why the 7.7" isn't an 8.2" or something, though.


RE: Shill much?
By drycrust3 on 9/30/2011 5:20:00 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I had no idea Samsung had so many entries into the tablet market.

I think they have had to do that because one of it's competitors has claimed they stole their "exclusive and original rectangular shape". Well, its hard to say they stole an exclusive and original rectancular shape when they produce a whole lot of rectangular shapes.
My guess is that the one shape you won't find in there is one that is exactly the same proportions as the iPad. Now we just have to wait for the law suit from Apple because Samsung discriminates against their "commonly used and very obvious rectangular shape".


RE: Shill much?
By snakeInTheGrass on 9/30/2011 12:37:59 PM , Rating: 2
Wow, you've criticized the TVs but not the IP theft and I must have just missed the iOS device buying guide you typically hang on the end of your articles. Lol.

Anyway, just pointing out some really stupid bias to this post, but I guess that's why it's 'blog', right.


RE: Shill much?
By omnicronx on 9/30/2011 2:40:37 PM , Rating: 2
You mean, an article about Samsung tablets has a picture of... SAMSUNG TABLETS!!

Do you even know what a shill means (shill != bias)? Or are you attempting to slide that comment under the rug to make it look as though you had a point and actually thought about what you wrote.


RE: Shill much?
By snakeInTheGrass on 9/30/2011 4:05:25 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
You mean, an article about Samsung tablets has a picture of... SAMSUNG TABLETS!!


No, as a matter of fact that's not what I mean, not sure how you read that into my comments. To clarify for you, I mean that an article about a 7 inch Samsung tablet concludes with a quick reminder to prospective buyers on the Galaxy S II (4.27" and 4.5") PHONES, 5.3" Galaxy Note, 7" Galaxy Tab Plus 7, 7.7" Galaxy Tab, 8.9" Galaxy Tab 8.9, and the 10.1" Galaxy Tab 10.1.

I really haven't seen quite such complete product line presented for other product announcements (complete with photos of the whole lineup).

For example, the "New MacBook Airs" piece ended with: "All of the new MacBook Airs will be getting backlit keyboards and a single Thunderbolt port.", not a complete product roundup of the 11" Air, 13" Air, 13" MacBook Pro, 15" MacBook Pro, and 17" MacBook Pro complete with pictures, just for us prospective buyers. Who in the hell wants to get what looks like a marketing press release with every piece of news?

I'll happily concede that shill isn't technically accurate if there's no Samsung influence on the site, and am pleased to that bias doesn't equal shilling. See, we can all get along.


RE: Shill much?
By bug77 on 9/30/2011 5:41:08 PM , Rating: 2
I see.
He includes pictures of Samsung products and not for Apple. Why not call Jason by his real name: Antichrist! His actual real name is Antijobs, but less technically inclined people won't understand that so let's just settle for the former.


RE: Shill much?
By nocturne_81 on 9/30/2011 8:59:08 PM , Rating: 2
Wow... you are such a tool..

I'm not even close to being in the market for a tablet, but by the time I read the first few lines I was already thinking: how many tablet sizes are there?!?! I was planning on googling it before I made it to bottom, so I'm glad Jason posted the comparison.

Compared to many of Jason's articles covering Apple and RIM, this one didn't seem to have much of an editorial air to it at all... Stop trying to find excuses to pick on the poor guy.


RE: Shill much?
By DeluxeTea on 10/1/2011 3:51:43 PM , Rating: 1
Why the fuck would Jason need to post an iOS buying guide when there are only four devices that use iOS (iPhone, iPad, iPod Touch and Apple TV) and just three of those are mobile devices?


RE: Shill much?
By amanojaku on 9/30/2011 9:21:36 AM , Rating: 2
You're, right, it should have said:
quote:
"Here's a quick reminder of what the Samsung Galaxy product family now looks like, for prospective prosecutors:"
Who else but a prospective buyer would be interested in this? Troll much?


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