quote: This bill is a good thing
quote: This bill is a good thing because right now it is generally understood that the government can order the shutdown of servers and networks for National Security reasons. This bill protects the finacial impacts if any steps needed to be taken and also protects the data contained within, which will still require a warrant as before. It sounds like a good bill that clearly identifies how these actions can be done and the rights and renumerations for those impacted.
quote: I am against the Patriot Act...
quote: However anything done on a fixed line is private.
quote: Republicans argue that its OK to revoke a US citizins right to a trial if government declares them a terrorist!
quote: Fact is, this is what you get when you have a deacade of fear mongering: Republicans want it, and Democrats are too scared of being seen as weak on defense to vote against it.
quote: They both f'ked up the country
quote: the REASON given was that Iraq was aiding the terrorists that were behind the attacks on 9/11.
quote: Considering Bush took us to war in Iraq under false pretenses, you could say that it seriously reduced the trust by citizens of the federal government.
quote: Do you honestly think that the US government would have signed off on war in Iraq without the FALSE connection between Iraq and Afghanistan being given by the White House at that time?
quote: The economy also tanked toward the end of George W's term in office, and it could be said that a combination of the situation in the middle east(made worse by Iraq), gas prices(related to Iraq), and policies put in place over the 6-7 years by the George W. administration were at fault.
quote: I am not defending what Obama is doing, since I am disgusted with health care taking top priority while several million people were out of work(and still are) due to the economy.
quote: Basically, we are in trouble as a nation because the federal and many state governments don't have ANY people with basic common(or uncommon) sense when it comes to economics.
quote: It is clear that Obama has never read the Constitution.
quote: Can you point out why I am an idiot? Perhaps highlight why you think the Constitution isn't fundamentally flawed?
quote: the government has managed to skirt just about every restriction placed on it.
quote: When it feels like it, the government just ignores the document outright.
quote: Congress was granted the power to issue debt backed by the full faith and credit of the U.S. Look where we are now economically. Look at what happened to our money system with the creation of the Federal Reserve and the arrival of Bretton Woods, which ultimately led to us defaulting on our debt when Nixon closed the gold window in 1971.
quote: Our military is spread so thin any country with the desire to do so could waltz right onto our shores.
quote: They even stated the case that on the president's say so they can assassinate U.S. citizens.
quote: There is much more but I think you might get the picture. Study history and learning from it. Look at where we are today and learn from that. So much is wrong here, so much justified by that document you hold so dear.
quote: Besides the Patriot Act, which only parts of it are arguably Unconstitutional, how exactly did Bush "dump on the Constitution" ??
quote: Why does the Patriot Act not count?
quote: You can't* expect privacy in public places.
quote: Stimulus- Were you asleep when Bush gave his Stimulus? I guess it was ok then.
quote: Bailout - The process was began by the BUSH ADMINISTRATION. It was only when Obama took office that Repubs spoke out.
quote: Health Care - Arguable here, but I would say that this was the same as some states mandating you have car insurance.
quote: Oddly this sounds more like the Bush Cheney group than Obama.
quote: ...we need the pirate party...
quote: I'm glad we have it. It becomes very convenient in times like these.
quote: That is why some of us are sitting on the carpet between the aisles .
quote: They can't vote in the primaries (in most cases) and they act suprised when there are two extremists running in the general election.
quote: I guess maybe the black people should have voted republican and stayed in the fields.
quote: I'm not sure what the American politicians are on, or who is paying them,...
quote: ...or perhaps they are egging each other on to do the most stupidest and daring things right in the face of the American public, but one is certain this isn't about 'protecting' America from the evil enemies. It's about controlling free speech.
quote: Can anyone show an example of a large centralized government that has survived without collapsing?
quote: What the hell does cyber 9/11 mean?
quote: Bill proposed by Republican/Democrat Joe Lieberman would have virtually no limitations
quote: Sen. Susan Collins (R-MA)...