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Attempt to infringe carry same penalties as successful infringement

H.R. 3155, also known as the “Intellectual Property Enhanced Criminal Enforcement Act of 2007” was introduced on July 24 by Representative Steven Chabot (R-Ohio). The bill aims to expand the penalties and scope of copyright infringement, and “strengthen the protection of intellectual property.”

In an objection posted to the Electronic Frontier Foundation’s Deep Links, the EFF finds that if this new bill becomes law, copyright holders can set statutory damages anywhere from $750 to $30,000 per work infringed -- and the copyright holder doesn’t even have to prove the infringement. “Such disproportionate penalties can be especially dangerous when it comes to lawsuits against mass-market products like the iPod or TiVo that enable the making of thousands of copies,” it says. Further, damages can be handed out for each track of a CD where, under normal circumstances, the CD counts as one work: “This is particularly unfair because record labels register entire albums as single works principally to strip their artists of reversion rights they would otherwise enjoy if the songs were registered individually.”

Expansive in its scope, H.R. 3155 covers a wide range of topics. Section 12 takes the penalties for criminal copyright infringement and doubles them, turning 5-year prison terms into 10, and 10-year prison terms into 20 years. In an Orwellian twist, another clause in section 5 attempts to criminalize the attempted commission of criminal IP infringement, prescribing the same penalties for attempts as the those for successful completion.

The idea of “attempted” IP infringement is a recurring theme that has shown up in several bills in the past few years, none of which have become law. In May, Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez and the Department of Justice proposed the Intellectual Property Protection Act of 2007, and according to the EFF, proposals as far back as 2005 have included provisions for “attempted” IP infringement. None of these proposals have become law.

Regular file-sharing activity is exempt from criminal infringement, and the bill seems aimed more at people who profit from piracy. However, critics worry that worry that if the courts take an expansive view to “purposes of commercial advantage or private financial gain,” then P2P users could find themselves behind bars in addition to the current pattern of civil settlements.

H.R. 3155 has not yet been scheduled for debate.



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Wow
By Vokus on 8/1/2007 6:53:07 AM , Rating: 4
We live in a scary time, corporations are taking over the legal system and making their own laws... At the rate we are giving up our rights today is amazing. We will all be criminals and slaves in no time, and their will always be an endless supply of stupid people that will be willing to give up their rights and freedoms... I would really like to see how much of money the artist make for signing with these companies in the first place, and how much money they make from pirates that have been cough and convicted...




RE: Wow
By FITCamaro on 8/1/07, Rating: -1
RE: Wow
By BladeVenom on 8/1/2007 8:32:27 AM , Rating: 5
It's not stealing; it's infringement. Now its going to be attempted infringement.

We are slowly losing rights. We've been losing fair use, public domain, and the right against cruel and unusual punishment. It's certainly cruel and unusual that the punishments for infringement are so far out of proportion to the crime. Killers get less time now than they want to give copyright infringers.


RE: Wow
By Regs on 8/1/2007 8:52:52 AM , Rating: 1
I think your view is skewed. America always had strict laws protecting peoples property. It's the free market and it's the government's job to protect the free market. Laws like these are always getting passed, though sometimes not directed to the consumer but a business vs.. business basis. Without protection from the government or laws such as these, we're creating an environment that does not provide or nourish a healthy economy.

The truth is our country is turning to the high-tech industry to support the economy. It has been so for many years. Without these laws, businesses will choose other countries or locations that will be more lucrative for them. Which implies...lesser higher paying jobs.

So I wouldn't be surprised to see a whole lot more laws being passed in the next decade to protect these businesses.

And we never had the freedom to steal from anyone. Though it was never properly enforced.


RE: Wow
By FITCamaro on 8/1/2007 9:16:08 AM , Rating: 2
Exactly. Thats one of the main reasons corporations do business in America. We work harder to protect the IP of a corporation more than any other country.


RE: Wow
By FITCamaro on 8/1/2007 9:08:29 AM , Rating: 3
I'll agree with you that the punishments this bill calls for are too harsh compared to other crimes.


RE: Wow
By FITCamaro on 8/1/07, Rating: -1
RE: Wow
By wordsworm on 8/1/2007 10:33:20 AM , Rating: 3
It's not at all the same. It would be closer to having your car copied by someone. Not paying for something isn't quite the same as taking something that belongs to someone else. Does anyone remember the replicators from Star Trek TNG? Can you imagine if we lived in a world where a car, or even something as simple as a cup, could be copied and duplicated at will. The pizza that you love from Pizza Hut could be copied and replicated whenever you had the urge. You like that Ferrari? Well... just get the supersized replicator version of it. If I walked by, say, Magnum PI's car and duplicated it, would he no longer have that car? Yes, of course he'd still have it. He probably wouldn't even notice it was gone, let alone copied. And the infringer would now have a Ferrari too.

Well, that would be just great. But where would we be morally and legally? The people who designed that Ferrari would get nothing for their creative efforts, based on the reactions of most (it roughly being that making copies should be legal). However, I have mixed feelings about it. On the one hand, people put a lot of effort into the machine (I'm still talking Ferrari). If we could copy that machine, most of the streets would be covered in Ferrari red rather than Toyotas, Fords, and Chryslers in drab. On the other hand, I've spent a lot of money on music over the years. First the 8 track, then the record, next the tape, then the CD, and now the MP3? I figure if I bought the record, then I've got a right to make a copy of it, or if the record's got a scratch, I figure I should have the right to a new MP3 without charge. Most of the music I listen to I've paid for 1-2 times already. Having to pay for it a 3rd, and possibly 4th time for the same music gets my goat more than anything.

I wonder this though: how much are all the lawyers making on this battle?


RE: Wow
By Oregonian2 on 8/1/2007 2:43:31 PM , Rating: 2
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Well, that would be just great. But where would we be morally and legally? The people who designed that Ferrari would get nothing for their creative efforts, based on the reactions of most (it roughly being that making copies should be legal).


You kind of miss the point of the STTNG environment. The designers of that Ferrari would have done it for the fun of it, because they thought it was a cool thing to do. Not for money because there really isn't "money" in that environment. When one can have ANYTHING instantly through a replicator (presumably including the making of replicators) what is the point of money? You can have whatever you want whenever you want it. And however much you want (why I'm surprised more on the crew weren't overweight).


RE: Wow
By lumbergeek on 8/1/2007 3:52:03 PM , Rating: 2
Quite right. That's why the Ferengi never understood Starfleet. Money is irrelevant in the society that Gene envisioned.


RE: Wow
By smitty3268 on 8/1/2007 10:38:03 AM , Rating: 3
There is a difference between stealing and infringement, although the lines are sometimes blurry. I also think the punishments involved here are a little extreme if they're given to the average consumer, but if they only go after the major pirate distributors online then maybe they'd be all right. Wouldn't count on that sticking, though.

This attempted infringement clause reminds me of conspiracy charges, which were created to get criminals we couldn't otherwise prove had done anything wrong.


RE: Wow
By euclidean on 8/1/2007 12:38:33 PM , Rating: 3
Ya....the days that our rapists and sexual devients can get less jail time than the common college student downloading music from home are going to be sweet :D :\...

Seriously though, is this going to effect anyone who isn't redistributing it for a profit? (ie selling movies on the corner, etc) But then at the same time, what are they calling profit? You not spending money on a movie or cd because you downloaded it could be looked at as making a profit....so is this really going to only effect the businesses and mass distributers? I don't know and i'm kinda scarred to find out. I have thousands of downloaded songs and movies...I didn't pay for them, but I tell you what, the movies that I liked, I bought, if I didn't like it, I filed it away into a binder that I haven't touched in forever. And music, I have so many CDs that the only reason i downloaded it was for 1 song....because I didn't care for any of the other ones.

Everything else in this world has a return policy, if you didn't like it, or it didn't work for you, then you return it....I don't see any retailers letting me do that with movies or cd's....so of course i'm going to download them first.


RE: Wow
By Shadowmaster625 on 8/1/2007 3:52:51 PM , Rating: 2
It's more like taking a picture of your car.


RE: Wow
By redbone75 on 8/1/2007 1:22:31 PM , Rating: 4
quote:
Last I checked the constitution in no way gives you the right to steal something that someone else made and make a profit off it.

Isn't that what the record labels are doing to their own artists? Anyway, I think it's total BS that record labels register whole albums as single works but online music stores don't have the rights to the entire album, only those songs that the publisher gives them rights to. The very concept smacks of illegality. Oh, yeah, that's right. I tend to forget that our paid-for and bought politicians have money blinders on.


RE: Wow
By Regs on 8/1/2007 3:51:40 PM , Rating: 2
They own it.
They own it.
They own it.

What's so hard to understand here? You'd be raising hell if some 10 billion dollar a-year corporation decided to buy out your land from underneith you and decide to use it as a parking lot.


RE: Wow
By Shadowmaster625 on 8/1/2007 3:54:35 PM , Rating: 2
erm they do that all the time... through the government and environmental front groups.


RE: Wow
By Polynikes on 8/1/2007 12:44:48 PM , Rating: 2
Don't worry, we can always fight back if things get too ugly, just like we did the first time against England.


RE: Wow
By Seymourbbuts on 8/1/2007 1:44:04 PM , Rating: 2
And who is going to fight this battle, the average American is either too stupid or too lazy to care. As long as they get what they want there is no problem for them. Besides, even if an average American does give money in exchange for the product or service, they aren't the one who's paying for it; it's either the bank that they're getting loans from, or the credit cards that they have no means or intentions to pay for, because everyone in America deserves whatever they're buying with someone else's money, regardless of if they have made the effort to earn it.

I'm an American so don't think this is foreign hatred.


RE: Wow
By CascadingDarkness on 8/1/2007 3:00:10 PM , Rating: 2
I second idiots with credit cards.

No matter what Sparks tells you. It is not a magic goodies creator.


RE: Wow
By RW on 8/1/2007 8:09:29 PM , Rating: 2
Someone is missing the point here.
If there would be less content to download from internet there would be less demand for high speed internet connections, less demand for big hard drives, less demand for DVD, Blue R