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Netflix disc must remain in PS3 to access Netflix service

Yesterday Netflix announced that its streaming service would be available for the PS3. Netflix is offering a reservation program that will send the required disc to PS3 users when the software is available next month. Joystiq went directly to Netflix for more details on the service.

Joystiq reports that the special disc does in fact have to remain in the PS3 for the streaming service to work. The reason is that Netflix doesn't have a XMB solution in place at the moment and won't have one until sometime in 2010.

Netflix reports that the application was developed with help from the Sony team. The reason Netflix went with a disc based solution rather than waiting for integrated capability was the issue of timing. Netflix told Joystiq, "Netflix members and PS3 owners have really wanted a way to instantly watch movies and TV episodes streamed from Netflix via the PS3 system. The instant streaming disc represented the fastest and easiest way to let them do this."

Netflix reports that late next year next year, “We expect to have an embedded solution available for PS3s via a system software update slated for release through the PlayStation Network."

With the exclusive claims that Microsoft was making many are wondering if the disc-based solution was a way to get around the "exclusive streaming" claims Microsoft touted. Netflix says that the agreement with Sony does not conflict with its agreements with Microsoft. That "exclusive streaming" claim is likely the reason PS3 owners won’t see an embedded solution from Netflix until late in 2010.

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It's a bit of a downer...
By Brandon Hill on 10/27/2009 10:13:03 AM , Rating: 3
It's a bit of a downer that it isn't fully integrated into the XMB yet, but it's no different than having to take a disc you get in the mail from Netflix and sticking it in your PS3 to watch. So instead of waiting a few days and going to the mailbox to retrieve a DVD, you go to the DVD shelf, pop in the disc, and have your streaming content.

The Xbox 360 still has the upper hand with full integration, but this should by no means be a dealbreaker IMHO.

RE: It's a bit of a downer...
By Morphine06 on 10/27/2009 10:29:40 AM , Rating: 2
They'll integrate it eventually, I'm sure.

I already reserved my disc from netflix.

Now... if we could only get a decent web browser...

RE: It's a bit of a downer...
By peritusONE on 10/27/2009 12:34:04 PM , Rating: 1
They'll integrate it eventually, I'm sure.

What gave you that idea? The fact that Netflix said they would, as noted in the article?

RE: It's a bit of a downer...
By Hiawa23 on 10/27/09, Rating: 0
RE: It's a bit of a downer...
By therealnickdanger on 10/27/2009 2:31:44 PM , Rating: 4
Well, that sucks, If I have to put a disc in I might as well rent the physical copy.

Yes, you're right, you may as well just wait a day or two for the post office to deliver a disc from your queue or get in your car and drive to the rental to pick a title from what they have in stock rather than get up off the couch and put a disc in to get access to thousands of TV shows and movies on demand. Totally logical.

RE: It's a bit of a downer...
By tlampen on 10/28/2009 12:28:00 PM , Rating: 2
give him a break he just wanted to let everyone know that he is awesome because he has BOTH consoles! :~)

RE: It's a bit of a downer...
By killerroach on 10/27/2009 10:42:09 AM , Rating: 2
A few of us were debating about why this solution is being done, and about the only thing we could come up with is that it has something to do with Microsoft's "exclusivity" agreement on Netflix streaming to consoles. Apparently having discrete software may have been the workaround until the agreement expires, at which point the service will go in-console...

RE: It's a bit of a downer...
By Reclaimer77 on 10/27/09, Rating: -1
RE: It's a bit of a downer...
By Morphine06 on 10/27/2009 12:35:57 PM , Rating: 3
I bet your harmony controls your pretend bluray drive you have for your xbox just fine.

PSN has virtually identical online content as xbox live, and it's free. Even if you didn't have an xbox live account before, you'd need one to stream netflix.

You will continue to pump money into that xbox just to keep it relevant, all the while claiming superiority.

PS3 has wifi, bluetooth, free network, netflix, bluray...out of the box. By the time you get all of that you will have spent twice as much as us, or had to buy an entirely new console.

The PS3 was overpriced at launch, but there's no arguing the value now. Give me a break.

RE: It's a bit of a downer...
By etherreal777 on 10/27/2009 1:18:56 PM , Rating: 4
PS3? Xbox360? Who needs any of these when you can build an HTPC?

Harmony remotes? Check.
802.11n? Check.
Netflix? Check.
Blu-Ray? Check.
Bluetooth? Check.

On top of that, I get to play real games, watch hulu, youtube, all the videos on my network, and everything else you cant do with a console :)

RE: It's a bit of a downer...
By Zoomer on 10/28/2009 8:39:59 AM , Rating: 2
Issue = no FF games. Enough said.

RE: It's a bit of a downer...
By Reclaimer77 on 10/27/2009 4:42:27 PM , Rating: 1
PSN has virtually identical online content as xbox live

This is a blatant lie. The rest of your post is just as fanboi'ish.

I don't own an Xbox or PS3, yet because I can be subjective, you assume I'm "pumping money into an X-box". I don't care how much cool crap a PS3 can do. Consoles are for playing games. And you probably couldn't even list me 10 awesome exclusives that I would even want to play on it. Oh and by the way, Metal Gear sucked.

I would buy a console to play games, not watch movies or browse the web. I have something that's better at the two than any console, a bad ass self built PC.

RE: It's a bit of a downer...
By Morphine06 on 10/28/2009 12:49:51 PM , Rating: 2
I agree 100%. You are completely subjective. I'm glad you were able to recognize the difference between us.

Most objective people will come to the conclusion that taste in games is relative, and the PS3 has more value out of the box. Those are facts, but I know how you "feel" is far more important to you.

Comparing a PC to console for gaming is also a matter of taste. There are games I can only play (and enjoy) on a console, but the depth at which I enjoy my PC games far exceeds anything a console can give me.

RE: It's a bit of a downer...
By peritusONE on 10/27/2009 12:38:12 PM , Rating: 2
Not to mention so few exclusive titles that anyone even cares about it's a wonder they bothered with all the "revolutionary" hardware.

Looking at that statement from a completely neutral point of view, the 360 and PS3 have an equal amount of exclusives. To say one system or another has exclusives that no one "even cares about" is a completely stupid statement made up in your head.

If we want to look at the PS3 specifically, though, I have mine for games like MGS4, Uncharted, and God of War. To say people do not care about those games is idiotic and naive. With that said, I still prefer my 360 overall.

By therealnickdanger on 10/27/2009 3:06:59 PM , Rating: 3
I've been primarily an Xbox guy and I've been one since I first played Halo. However, all things being equal, if the 360 vs PS3 console race started today and I had to choose only one, the PS3 would be the better value by FAR at the $300 price-point!

Pros of PS3:
Blu-Ray (at least $100 for a BD-Live Blu-Ray player)
Built-in Wi-Fi (360 dongle is $80)
Free online play (Live is $50/yr)
120GB HDD (can be replaced with any cheap 2.5" drive)
Built-in web browser (360 doesn't have it)
Greater cross-platform (PS3/PC) online play
Sony doesn't care if you hack/homebrew Linux games/apps

Pros of 360:
Live is superior in nearly every way to PSN in terms of integration

That's honestly about all I can come up with. Games are obviously so subjective to the user that it is necessary to arrive at your own conclusion, but when you do beyond the features that make them identical, the PS3 really shines. Since I already have 3 360s, my next console will be a PS3. Then I can have the best of everything.

RE: It's a bit of a downer...
By walk2k on 10/27/2009 1:00:21 PM , Rating: 2
late next year next year??

So wait, does that mean next year (2010) or next-next year (2011)??

PS3 has the browser
By Xavier434 on 10/27/2009 11:09:03 AM , Rating: 2
I own both a 360 and a PS3. I currently only use my PS3 as a blu-ray player and PS3 exclusive games though. The only reason why I will stick with using my 360 as my Netflix enabled media center is due to being able to browse through some of the watch instantly content directly from the 360 as well as the fact that we need to use a disk for the PS3 which is annoying.

However, once the disk part goes away for the PS3 I will probably switch over to the PS3 as being my device of choice for Netflix. The only reason why is because while the 360 does provide about 100 watch instantly content selections within each of their subcategories that is still nothing compared to all of the watch instantly content which Netflix provides. I personally do not want to access a computer to add watch instantly content to my queue if I do not have to, but I still need to do that since the 360 doesn't show me a lot of Netflix's available content.

Since the PS3 comes with an integrated web browser which can access the Netflix website and allow me to both browse and add every single bit of content to my queue that will be the deal breaker for me once the disk goes away.

The 360 can still triumph though and I hope that they do since I do prefer it over the PS3. They could either add a browser or update their current integrated Netflix solution to allow the user to browse all of Netflix's watch instantly content as well as adding in convenient search options to located more specific content. If they do that then I will stick with the 360 for Netflix. It's up to them.

RE: PS3 has the browser
By Hiawa23 on 10/27/2009 11:39:44 AM , Rating: 3
The PS3's web browser I think isn't very good & since My consoles sit right next to my computer I have no issue just adding the movies to my Q that are not available on the instant selection on the 360.

RE: PS3 has the browser
By Xavier434 on 10/27/2009 11:57:53 AM , Rating: 2
Yeah, I am not a huge fan of the PS3 browser either to be honest, but it does allow me to add all of the watch instantly content to my queue from just the console which is what I want.

Myself and many others out there do not have out computers next to our TVs plus an integrated solution like what I want is both desired and convenient as proven by the partial solution that MS rolled out for the 360 in August.

The bottom line here is quality and competition. If MS wants to be the big winner when it comes to Netflix then they should consider my feature requests for 2010.

bias / truth
By ScotterQX6700 on 10/27/2009 10:46:07 AM , Rating: 4
"It was only weeks ago that Microsoft was touting the fact that its Xbox 360 was the exclusive streaming game console for Netflix's on demand movie and TV service. That exclusivity didn’t last long and yesterday Netflix announced that its streaming service would be available for the PS3."

This is misleading about how long NetFlix instant streaming has been available on the Xbox 360. I wonder if you meant for it to be or you just don't think much about facts or how your readers might interpret what you say? I have been seeing more "anti-microsoft" bias in your articles recently. I'm disappointed. I also lose respect for someone when they twist the facts to support their potentially hidden point of view.

Fact: In November of 2008 (about a year ago) Microsoft turned on Netflix instant streaming for the Xbox 360. It was August 11, 2009 when they UPDATED it to include browsing of movies from your 360 so you didn't have to go to to manage your instant movie que.

RE: bias / truth
By Brandon Hill on 10/27/2009 10:50:07 AM , Rating: 2
This part of the article has been corrected. Thanks for pointing it out.

BD-J or native executable?
By CZroe on 10/27/2009 11:09:31 AM , Rating: 2
I was speculating the exact same thing as the last paragraph of this article but I also speculated that it might be extremely similar to the code included in BD players that support Netflix. IOW, a BD-J player. I guess we'll know when we see if it's accessed from the game-disc/program part of the XMB of the video-disc/video part.

RE: BD-J or native executable?
By bespoke on 10/27/2009 12:32:52 PM , Rating: 2
RE: BD-J or native executable?
By CZroe on 10/28/2009 4:34:33 AM , Rating: 2
Why, thank you. I'd uprate you if I could. :)

I welcome it
By PrazVT on 10/27/2009 4:38:37 PM , Rating: 1
we have 2 PS3s on our gigabit LAN at home (house is pre-wired) and I have one pc running TVersity Pro and PlayOn so both PS3s have access to tons of media. Music, 1080p/720p/AC3 blu-ray rips, divx movies, etc using TVersity. Netflix instance queue, hulu, etc using PlayOn and it's been great so far. We have a 16MBit connection so generally everything looks good and both PS3s play everything thrown at them. In fact, my replacement 120gb slim PS3 outputs HD audio via bitstream to the Yamaha receiver, which is nice update. Honestly, I haven't regretted buying both of 'em at all. Nor have I ever longed for a 360 ... I did get a controller though, to play the PC Version of the Last Remnant on my GTX 295 equipped machine :)

I welcome the Netflix disc as a "right now" solution. Right now, my parents can only watch whatever I've queued up on instant play, so this'll give them more control.

RE: I welcome it
By tlampen on 10/28/2009 12:48:31 PM , Rating: 1
you are so fricken cool man! you have 2 PS3's AND a gigabit LAN that is in a house that is PRE-WIRED!!!!!!! I bet you get all the chicks! OH WAIT... YOU LIVE WITH YOUR EFFING PARENTS MAN!!! Which means 1 of 2 things, you are still in high school or yonger which means it isn't your crap it is your parents OR you are a complete dork who thinks you need to impress people on DT. I am glad you are proud of what you have but no one else cares.

RE: I welcome it
By BAFrayd on 11/6/2009 2:30:38 PM , Rating: 2
WOW! You really showed him...

By honestIT on 10/27/2009 1:11:37 PM , Rating: 2
IS you can sign into the PS network from any PS3 whereas you are stuck moving your profile on the 360. So I my case having two PS3's would be better for me to be able to see content in multiple rooms without the need for live services.

"I'm an Internet expert too. It's all right to wire the industrial zone only, but there are many problems if other regions of the North are wired." -- North Korean Supreme Commander Kim Jong-il
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