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The weapon system fires a non-explosive projectile

Flash Xray composite image of in-flight projectile
Eat your heart out Quake fans

The Naval Surface Warfare Center played the stage for a demonstration of a new naval weapon.  The 8-megajoule railgun was the center of attention on Wednesday, as the navy demonstrated its power and low cost use.  The railgun was designed by General Atomics, a fission and fusion research company based out of San Diego.

Instead of using gunpowder, the railgun uses electricity by sending a current along parallel rails which creates an electromagnetic pulse.  The pulse is so powerful it can file projectiles roughly 200 to 250 nautical miles in about 6 minutes, using the nonexplosive slug weighing about 3.2 kilograms.  After leaving the barrel of the railgun the slug has an estimated launch altitude of about 500,000 feet or roughly 95 miles at possible Mach 7 speeds.  Current conventional guns on Navy vessels have a maximum range of about 15 miles.

Compared to a Tomahawk missile, which costs upwards of $1 million per missile, the railgun only has an estimated sub-$1,000-per-shot cost.  With the absence of gunpowder, the railgun is said to be safer to use, eliminating the possibility of explosions.

According to the Free Lance Star, General Atomic has obtained the $10 million contract for the production of the railgun.

The field deployment of the weapon is not expected for another 13 years.  In the meantime, General Atomic can start work on higher joule railguns for farther and quicker targeting and firing.  The company claims it will develop 16 and 32 megajoule variants of the weapon next.  Fully deployed railguns will be rated at approximately 64 megajoules.


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this is why i love america
By otispunkmeyer on 1/22/2007 3:51:05 AM , Rating: 5
although im not american (im british) i love america for the fact that you guys are willing to spend the green on seriously cool military hardware

you have the best planes, tanks, ships, missiles, radar everything. you just need some good british troops to help you use it all :P

seriously all the stuff you guys make would make me hella proud of america....SR-71 alone would make me proud, that is the most beautiful machine on the planet.

good show guys




RE: this is why i love america
By Fibbly on 1/22/2007 5:20:09 AM , Rating: 1
Best Tanks? No. Best planes? For some purposes, yes, no for others. Same for ships. What makes our military so strong is the combination of it and also quantity of the quality hardware. And last but not least, the practice.


RE: this is why i love america
By TheDoc9 on 1/22/2007 10:08:35 AM , Rating: 3
so, who does have the best of these things 'fibb' ly?


RE: this is why i love america
By hubajube on 1/22/2007 11:41:14 AM , Rating: 4
quote:
so, who does have the best of these things 'fibb' ly?
I think what he means is that our hardware could be better. Much better. He's on point on the practice. That's really what makes the difference.


RE: this is why i love america
By BladeVenom on 1/22/2007 11:47:19 AM , Rating: 3
The Challenger 2 tank is just as good as ours. The Chobham armor that the M1s use was invented by the British.

The Starstreak antiaircraft missile looks good.


RE: this is why i love america
By stromgald on 1/22/2007 11:48:30 AM , Rating: 5
U.S. Tank: M1A1 Abrams
- best tank for tank on tank or tank on stationary target warfare
- Not good in close quarters or against infantry (most tanks aren't, I think a handful of Israeli tanks are considered better in close quarters)

U.S. Planes: F-22, JSF.
- Best fighters, most advanced technologically
- Has competition from Russian prototype aircraft

Ships: Ohio class submarines, aircraft carriers, AEGIS cruisers . . .
- No other country has aircraft carriers near the size/power of the US aircraft carriers
- Only Russian Typhoon class has the nuclear projection power of the Ohio class.
- No competition except maybe a few Russian prototype subs
- AEGIS cruisers have been sold to allies such as Japan.

Quit bull****ing. The US has the #1 military in terms of technology. The US also has the best military because its training of soldiers is very high but the training is not #1 (behind to Israel and maybe a few other countries).


RE: this is why i love america
By Smurfer2 on 1/22/2007 11:57:07 AM , Rating: 2
Stromgald, I think in principle you are right.

The U.S. M1A2 is arguably second best to the Challenger 2. Though that depends on who you ask. It definently has a better gun though.

U.S. planes have some competition for sure. I wouldn't say we have the best. (Iran has F-14s, which I believe are a better air superiority fighter then the JSF)Some of the no longer prototype Russian aircraft can be seen as better. Though crew quality and numbers makes them a moot point

Just expanding, hope ya don't mind.


RE: this is why i love america
By masher2 (blog) on 1/22/2007 12:00:40 PM , Rating: 3
> "U.S. planes have some competition for sure. I wouldn't say we have the best. (Iran has F-14s..."

Those F-14's ARE US planes...and Iran can't even field them, due to lack of parts and maintenance.


RE: this is why i love america
By hubajube on 1/22/2007 12:04:20 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Those F-14's ARE US planes...and Iran can't even field them, due to lack of parts and maintenance.
Not to mention those F-14's don't have all the goodies that the US versions have.


RE: this is why i love america
By Martin Blank on 1/22/2007 2:47:04 PM , Rating: 3
Iranian F-14s were shipped with AWG-9 radars and Phoenix missiles. The viability of the Phoenix missiles may be in doubt, but Iranian Tomcats do fly, and they have been photographed relatively recently with Phoenix missiles slung underneath. They're not as up-to-date as the US Tomcats were before their retirement, but they're certainly still a viable threat at range. In a war situation, they're probably the biggest threat to AWACS aircraft, since even the earliest Phoenix missiles had home-on-jam capabilities, and demonstrated strikes on targets out to 75 miles or more.


RE: this is why i love america
By mezman on 1/22/2007 3:22:33 PM , Rating: 2
Correct. The Iranian F-14s were 1970's versions and were stripped down at the time. The F-14 was continually upgraded for the next 25 years here in the United States while the Iranian F-14's gathered dust. Their F-14's don't offer a threat to modern US warplanes.


RE: this is why i love america
By stromgald on 1/22/2007 3:03:38 PM , Rating: 2
Acutally, the F-14 and JSF aren't in the same class. The F-14 is air superiority and is being replaced by the F/A-18 E/F Super Hornet. The JSF is in the "light-weight fighter" class and replaces the F/A-18 A/B/C/D Hornet and various other small attack/utility aircraft the Navy has. With the new avionics and better manuverability of the F/A-18 E/F and JSF, I'd pick that over an F-14 any day (even US versions). The F-14 just has a higher top speed.

The Challenger 2 is very similar to the M1A2, but the Abrams has a higher top speed and a longer range gun, and with the insane accuracy of modern tanks, that speed + range = kill about 80% of the time.

The main weakness of both tanks is that they were designed mostly for tank on tank long range warfare. Close quarters like around buildings causes serious problems for both tanks. I think the Israeli Merkava is considered the best in guerrilla warfare, which is becoming more and more common.



By rippleyaliens on 1/26/2007 11:21:57 AM , Rating: 2
Actually, alot of people here are wrong. The weapon system, is only a small percentage of what the weapon is capabile of doing. Take the F14 Tomcat. the thing is over 30 years old, YET, 1- Upgrades to avionics, Newer weapon platforms. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY. The training around it. American pilots are some of the best trained out there. REASON= Easy, the United states can afford to send pilots up, and up, and up.. Isreal pilots are excellent, be that country cannot afford to put them in the air, like we can.

M1-Tank. Is by all means, the very BEST on teh planet. 1 on 1, versus a leopard, or isreali tank, well, i would say, the latter. BUT a M1- Platoon, with their support gear=unstoppable, within its weapons envelope.

The Russian t-80 and latter, are actually supperior TANKS, look up Fort ORD, the aggressor teams. Those guys hardly ever lost, BUT in Iraq, desert storm, it was a totally different story. Reason= Again, Training.Training, Training.

I personally can out shoot alot of Police officers, and i regulary do, at the range. Why, easy, when i was in Marines, i shot thousands upon thousands or rounds of pistol / SMG (hk mp5) rounds. YET, i will get spanked by some Seal guys. Because HE shot 10's of thousands of rounds. Training always makes the difference in War.
Helicopters, same thing. US can afford, to have their pilots in the air, training 3x4 times, the next best military, honing their skills, learning the hardware..

Training


RE: this is why i love america
By ralith on 1/22/2007 6:05:42 PM , Rating: 2
Ummm, the F-22 seems to have been forgotten here. It was designed as a air superiority fighter, and I'm pretty sure it'd kick the sh*t out of anything out there including 30+ year old F-14s.


RE: this is why i love america
By stromgald on 1/22/2007 8:07:46 PM , Rating: 2
Well, the F-14 is navy. The F-22 can't take off an aircraft carrier like the JSF can. There is one aircraft that might challenge the F/A-22 and that's the Russian Su-47, but that's an experimental aircraft and hasn't entered production.


RE: this is why i love america
By Locutus465 on 1/22/2007 8:30:13 PM , Rating: 2
As big a fan as I am of the F-14 (a U.S. plan as others have already pointed out) I have a high degree of confidence that the F-22 would *always* come out superior, and that it would have a tough time against the JSF as it is also stealthy which is problematic for the tom cat's greatest strength, it's radar.


RE: this is why i love america
By Mclendo06 on 1/29/2007 12:26:38 AM , Rating: 2
I sure would like to see those F-14's trying to get their fancy 1970's radars to lock onto an incoming flight of stealthy Joint Strike Fighters. If they got in behind them then maybe they would have a chance. The stealth characteristics of US aircraft are rather closely guarded but I see the tail end of a JSF being its most vulnerable point. The F-14 is designed to be an interceptor, though, and in the head-to-head type situation it was originally designed for, I doubt it would fare well at all against any stealth aircraft.

As far as aircraft go in general, the US is a full generation ahead of any other country with regards to production aircraft. The US is the only country with 5th generation fighter aircraft in production, those being the F-22 and the F-35. Also, if Iran is able to fly their limited F-14 fleet, their pilots, who have likely gotten flying time in F-14s totaling in the tens of hours at best, would pretty much just be flying to their deaths against American Pilots who have multiple thousands of hours of training time in jet fighter aircraft, many of those hours in the very aircraft they are going to combat in. If there are any Iranian pilots reading this post, I suggest that in case of war with the USA, you learn the word "Asylum", jettison your weapons, and fly your 1st/2nd/3rd generation fighter to the nearest America-friendly airbase you can find before some F-22 your radar can't even pick up ruins your day by sticking an AMRAAM up your tailpipe.


RE: this is why i love america
By alcalde on 1/23/2007 1:03:35 AM , Rating: 3
You're discussing platforms but not ordinance. We're behind the Russians in supercavitating torpedoes (shkval - probably 200 knots +) and anti-ship missiles (Sunburn supersonic missile).

And I disagree with the statement about the only submarine competition are Russian prototype subs. The Akula II is not a prototype sub. Also, the Sunburn was designed to deal with AEGIS....

http://www.rense.com/general59/theSunburniransawes...


RE: this is why i love america
By Sahrin on 1/23/2007 11:42:42 AM , Rating: 2
I would put a Sea Wolf against any Sov/Russian sub, including Akula-series subs, Typhoon - anything. Not the sissy watered down Virginias, but a true Sea Wolf.

Understand, that a lot has to do with the quality and ingenuity of the crew (most submarines have the same basic "skillset") - so put "Marko Ramius" against "gilligan" and you've got a red-flag winner every time - but equal crews, I'd rather be in a Sea Wolf. The Russians build great hardware, very durable, with 'different' kinds of ideas - but I think America's strength is that when it gets serious about a piece of hardware (Sea Wolf, SuperNimitz, F-22, SR-71, Ohio, B-2B, M1A1, Aegis, Commanche) that hardware is incredible. People knock the DoD for cost overruns, but to me - it's an R&D investment, it's going to balloon because you're inventing the science.

But to sum up, Sea Wolf > Aging North Sea Fleet and a submarine development program on Welfare. (OR the Russian equivalent. Welfarskiy).