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  (Source: Jarrett Baker/AP)
The NYPD wants citizen-made videos showing criminal acts uploaded directly to them

A recent announcement made by New York Police Department Police Commissioner Ray Kelly will make it easier for citizens of New York to upload photographs or videos of criminal activities directly to the police department and 911.  New Yorkers also will be able to upload evidence of misconduct by NYPD police so it can undergo internal review.

The new service was announced after NYPD Officer Patrick Pogan was filmed forcefully removing Christopher Long, who was participating in a Critical Mass rally, from his bicycle while Long rode along with other Critical Mass members.  A 70-second video was filmed last weekend and the unknown person uploaded it to YouTube, where it was viewed more than 250,000 times in 48 hours -- Long is now facing charges of attempted assault, resisting arrest, and disorderly conduct.

In a different incident involving the NYPD, a police officer was caught bludgeoning a man who was on the ground subdued by another police officer.

In a final incident a NYPD officer was filmed reportedly beating 28-year-old Walter Harvin even though he was already handcuffed.

As eyewitness videos are becoming more common place due to higher availability of camera phones able to record video, police authorities hope citizens will be willing to capture data and anonymously send it along.

The ability to anonymously send footage will allow average patrons to stand up and do something -- both against criminals and police officers behaving badly.  New York City's latest initiative has earned praise from civil rights groups.

"I think that while it's appropriate for the police department to invite video reports of wrong doing both by ordinary people and police officers, the New York Police Department has a long way to go to ensure that police officers who engage in wrongdoing like what was captured in the two video tapes that were recently disclosed are held accountable," said Donna Lieberman, executive director of the New York City Liberties Union.

The new NYPD service is expected to launch soon.



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Don't TAZER me, Bro...
By FaceMaster on 8/5/2008 7:41:44 AM , Rating: 3
...I still don't know why they all got so agro about him talking.




RE: Don't TAZER me, Bro...
By Calin on 8/5/2008 7:46:34 AM , Rating: 5
The pen is mightier than the sword.
As such, a person wielding a book can only be neutralized by a police officer wielding a gun


RE: Don't TAZER me, Bro...
By therealnickdanger on 8/5/08, Rating: -1
RE: Don't TAZER me, Bro...
By eye smite on 8/5/2008 9:29:08 AM , Rating: 2
Read that article from Seattle. Had it been my car they surrounded and were bashing the windshields out of, I'd have mowed them down with the car and painted the street red. lol


RE: Don't TAZER me, Bro...
By PAPutzback on 8/5/2008 9:54:40 AM , Rating: 2
I agree. That was messed up. I don't care if you are on a 10 pound bike and I am in a hummer. If you try to put fear into my family, your ass will be run over.

Critical mass, what a stupid name.

And they say they slit the tires to keep the driver from running. What are they doing with knives in the first place.


RE: Don't TAZER me, Bro...
By HOOfan 1 on 8/5/2008 12:48:43 PM , Rating: 2
Looks like instead of being afraid of a big group of burly guys wearing learther and metal studs and riding on Harley's, I should be on the lookout for groups of skinny guys in spandex riding Schwinns


RE: Don't TAZER me, Bro...
By Nik00117 on 8/5/08, Rating: -1
RE: Don't TAZER me, Bro...
By mindless1 on 8/5/2008 5:53:58 PM , Rating: 3
The problem with hitting the gas is you'd then be using the car as a deadly weapon, before it could be assumed a life or death scenario, and potentially hitting innocent cyclists who were just nearby drawing nearer to watch or even try to end the altercation.

I don't at all buy the story of the cyclists. Even if the guy was impatient with them it is not at all likely he would intentionally run over anyone as the primary act of aggression, especially with all those obviously biased witnesses around. If for no other reason he would not want the hassle and potential expense of damaged car, damaged bike, injured cyclist. What seems most likely to me is he at some point found a break in the cyclist parade but the very cyclists trying to defend their right of way, were trying to prevent his right of way to keep their little parade intact without a car in the middle of it.

All the rest is just nonsense. They were a mob that attacked the car, making it clear they were going to prevent him from leaving and assult him which we know is a very dangerous situation for an individual, let alone an individual with their loved one(s) to be in.

If I were the police I would ban this event. If they just want to get together a few at a time and ride so be it, but if the group can't even police themselves, can't bother to stop certain members from doing harm, they are a menace to society.


RE: Don't TAZER me, Bro...
By stryfe on 8/6/2008 10:04:41 PM , Rating: 2
Sure that's what you would expect a reasonable driver to do in the situation but that doesn't change the fact that people get angry/impatient and act out of aggression rather than reason.

Until this goes through the courts none of us really know what happened.


RE: Don't TAZER me, Bro...
By JonnyDough on 8/5/2008 2:49:54 PM , Rating: 2
Why would you fear motorcyclists? Guys riding Harley's may have black leather and tattoos and skull insignias, but they are some of the nicest, life loving folks you will ever meet. Until you cross em. Don't be stupid and you'll be fine. You shouldn't judge a group of people, it's the individual that makes the choice of how to behave.


RE: Don't TAZER me, Bro...
By mindless1 on 8/5/2008 6:01:24 PM , Rating: 2
Certainly plenty of motorcyclists are great *guys*, but when you get a pack of guys together that are looking out for each other and exercising might-by-numbers, they tend to take liberties they shouldn't have like excessive noise pollution. They think it's cool to have deep loud bikes but it's probably illegal and definitely disrespectful and often offensive to everyone around them. Should you be concerned about a large group that has no regard for you even in choices made before they ever met you, had no way to even form a negative judgement about you yet?

I think so, but of course this is not limited to loud bike mufflers, there are plenty of other noise pollutants and other premeditated offenses like excessively bright and/or misaimed (or lack of responsiblity adjusting their aim) headlights that blind people at night, or driving drunk, or honking a car to scare or startle bicyclists or motorcyclists, etc.


RE: Don't TAZER me, Bro...
By JonnyDough on 8/5/2008 10:42:25 PM , Rating: 1
You want to knock on an entire group of people for a few having loud mufflers? Part of the reason some bikes are loud (and the small majority of motorcycles are NOT loud) is so that they don't get killed by people trying to light cigarettes while they drive, mom's with kid's screaming, truckers bring consumers like you goods that likely pollute in both construction processes and in the packaging it leaves behind...

Yet, you're worried about a bit of noise and safety in numbers. Are you stupid? You're just jealous cuz you don't have a loud Harley and a clique. Go get yourself one and quit hating groups of people, learn to hate ALL people equally.

We all leave a mark on the natural world (someone cleared the land you live on of natural inhabitants you know, not to mention all of the land cleared to sustain you, like the cropland you require). We all make noise, and you want to complain about "misaimed headlights?" Are you stupid? Motorcyclists don't want to blind you man, that could cause you to run them over. They want to SEE you, along with any ANIMALS on the road they might hit. So quit being a pompous ass and start being an aware driver.

/ a MUCH needed rant.


RE: Don't TAZER me, Bro...
By mindless1 on 8/5/2008 11:39:26 PM , Rating: 2
Yes, I want to knock a bunch of people with loud mufflers. It is excessive noise pollution.

If they can't keep from getting hit without a noisey muffler, there is always a horn.

No I am not jealous of not having a loud Harley, this is the kind of shallow mentality I expected though that you must assume it is envious to ignore the basic rules our society has, and show a little courtesy. If they can't do that, no they aren't such great guys at all except in your mind.

I also hate the guy 2 doors down who uses his loud lawn edger very early on the weekend if it makes you feel any better and no I don't secretly desire to edge my lawn early Saturday or Sunday morning.

See how it is? I don't discriminate again bikers, and in fact there are plenty that do not have ridiculously loud bikes.

I don't really care what their excuse is, everybody seems to have an excuse for everything these days don't they? How about personal responsiblity, where did that go?

The funny part is you think you need to tell me to be an aware driver. I've not been in an accident, even one that was someone else's fault in over 10, maybe 15 years now. Then it was somebody rear-ending me. Never came even close to running into a motorcyclist because I seem to be more responsible than you, I look instead of depending on some loud noise to warn me of other motorists' presence.

Way to get confused about reality though.


RE: Don't TAZER me, Bro...
By Bioniccrackmonk on 8/5/2008 9:45:07 AM , Rating: 5
I'll take "The Penis Mightier" for 200 Trebeck.


RE: Don't TAZER me, Bro...
By fibreoptik on 8/11/2008 11:19:10 AM , Rating: 2
I was waiting for this one :) LOL


RE: Don't TAZER me, Bro...
By Cunthor666 on 8/7/2008 3:49:05 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
The pen is mightier than the sword.


But not a tazer.


RE: Don't TAZER me, Bro...
By MrBlastman on 8/5/2008 9:25:23 AM , Rating: 3
The Police State is coming :(

It is only a matter of time...


RE: Don't TAZER me, Bro...
By Polynikes on 8/5/2008 10:21:49 AM , Rating: 2
They're gonna have a hard time enforcing control with millions of guns out there. I know a LOT of gun owners will not give up their weapons freely.