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He also wants to ban styrofoam

New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg is expected to bring some new ideas to the table at his State of the City address, including a push for more electric vehicle (EV) parking.

At the State of the City address, which will take place today at the Barclays Center in Brooklyn, Mayor Bloomberg will propose the addition of parking spaces specifically for EVs. In fact, he wants 20 percent of any new parking added to the city to be EV-only, where the appropriate charging cables will be available for an easy hook-up. The city makes about 10,000 new spots annually.

Residents have already started speaking out about the idea, either saying that there aren't enough EVs in the city to justify the proposal or that it will likely increase adoption.


Mayor Bloomberg has been a major EV advocate in NYC. In 2007, he set a goal to make 13,000 of NYC's taxi's hybrids by 2012 in a project called the "Taxi of Tomorrow." In 2011, Mayor Bloomberg and Nissan Americas Chairman Carlos Tavares announced that the Nissan NV200 had been selected as the "Taxi of Tomorrow."

By the end of 2011, it was announced that the city would receive six Nissan Leaf EV taxis in 2012.

In addition to his EV push, Mayor Bloomberg will also propose the banning of styrofoam and the increase of recycling by 30 percent by 2017 at today's State of the City address.

The proposals will have to be approved by City Council, which could take a couple of months.

Source: CBS New York



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Bloomberg The number one reason I wont go
By christojojo on 2/14/2013 4:01:46 PM , Rating: 4
to New York City. I don't like being told how to think, eat, drive, or park. These leaders really need to remember the thing called freedom. The freedom to make our own decisions no matter how stupid they think we are. Five says he gets re-elected.




RE: Bloomberg The number one reason I wont go
By Dorkyman on 2/14/2013 5:45:16 PM , Rating: 3
New Yorkers deserve him. But he's becoming almost as big a fool as Messiah.


RE: Bloomberg The number one reason I wont go
By Motoman on 2/14/2013 8:52:43 PM , Rating: 2
Democracy: a system by which the people receive a government no better than they deserve.


RE: Bloomberg The number one reason I wont go
By tng on 2/15/2013 10:15:59 PM , Rating: 2
Or they get exactly what they ask for... and suddenly those great ideas aren't so good when they have to live with them.


RE: Bloomberg The number one reason I wont go
By Reclaimer77 on 2/16/2013 12:26:48 PM , Rating: 1
That's okay because Liberals have a game plan for that. When things start to turn to pure shit because of their stupid ideology, just resort to the old standby: blaming the rich.

It sure worked for Obama. Think about it. A President with the absolute worst domestic track record in 80 years gets reelected. Riding the class warfare bandwagon like it's a donkey on crack.


RE: Bloomberg The number one reason I wont go
By tng on 2/16/2013 2:50:54 PM , Rating: 2
What I don't understand is that when the Bush Admin pushed for warrant less wiretaps, there was huge public backlash, yet the Obama Admin pushes through a law that will allow our military to arrest and indefinitely detain American Citizens here in the US without trial or legal defense and there is not one word in the press. You also see people here on this forum that will actively deny that it actually happened, even though a NY Federal Judge put a permanent order to have it struck as Unconstitutional and the ACLU calls it an atrocity for freedom.

To many people get caught up in the Left-vs-Right or Red-vs-Blue thing and aren't paying attention to the fact that there could come a time where you or your neighbor might just disappear for publicly disagreeing with some government decision.


By Reclaimer77 on 2/16/2013 6:27:06 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
What I don't understand is that when the Bush Admin pushed for warrant less wiretaps, there was huge public backlash, yet the Obama Admin pushes through a law that will allow our military to arrest and indefinitely detain American Citizens here in the US without trial or legal defense and there is not one word in the press.


Well that's the definition of "Liberal media bias" isn't it. If the people don't KNOW what Obama is up to, and believe me they mostly don't, they can't be against it can they?


By StormyKnight on 2/15/2013 8:07:04 AM , Rating: 1
He's a socialist douchebag. He'll be remembered as such.


RE: Bloomberg The number one reason I wont go
By wordsworm on 2/15/2013 11:46:44 AM , Rating: 4
Avoid cities. They will all tell you what to do: They have lights (called traffic lights) that tell you when to go and when to stop. They don't like it when you park in the middle of the street and have special places alongside curbs with meters which require coins to be inserted, or else they tow your car away.

A good mother would tell you to eat your vegetables.


RE: Bloomberg The number one reason I wont go
By Moishe on 2/15/2013 1:33:36 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
A good mother would tell you to eat your vegetables.


Since when is Bloomberg or any mayor a city's mother? The idea that they can tax parking or making stopping light to direct traffic is far different than regulating styrofoam.

This kind of detailed micromanagement is absurd. This kind of garbage comes up when people in charge (elected and otherwise) fail to recognize and appreciate individual freedoms. If they recognized and appreciated individual freedom, they would make an effort to stop their infringement at a reasonable place.

In other words, they would say "this far is reasonable, but That far is not." Ideally in a Republic like ours, the people would determine just how far.

Unfortunately as others have stated, New Yorkers deserve what they vote for. One day, when Bloomberg is sending his goons around to wipe their butt for them, maybe they'll wake up and kick these upstarts to the curb where they belong.

As far as the rest of us... we are intelligent and independent enough to figure out how to eat, what to drink from, etc. The fools who wish to bring that prison mentality elsewhere need to back off.


By wordsworm on 2/19/2013 2:29:52 AM , Rating: 2
Cities have this problem... it's called pollution. It's a serious problem. It's not just bad for buildings and monuments, but also for everyone's health. What he's doing here is more important than anything else he's done. I didn't think much of the guy until I read this article. I guess politicians can't be evil all the time.


By Moishe on 2/15/2013 1:24:54 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
Mayor Bloomberg will also propose the banning of styrofoam and the increase of recycling by 30 percent by 2017 at today's State of the City address.


You are not kidding.

With all the problems NYC has... he is going to micro-manage styrofoam? This is classic Nanny-state garbage.

Bloomberg is a fool. At best.


By Netscorer on 2/17/2013 7:52:56 PM , Rating: 2
When you live in metropolis the size of NYC, you obey the rules. The alternative is very expensive anarchy.
If mayor wants to cut down on air pollution by promoting EVs, it's not because he is a liberal dimwit. If he wants to reduce city health costs by cutting fat and sugar from fast food rations, it is not because he is closeted vegan. And if he wants to promote recycling by fighting back against styrofoam, it's not because he prefers Starbucks over Dunkin' Donuts.

If you want to drive your truck with gun rack attachment and chew cheap tobacco, there are plenty of states that would welcome your bronzed-faced redneck free soul.


EVs make sense for City
By Keeir on 2/14/2013 3:09:57 PM , Rating: 2
EVs make the most sense in heavy city traffic, where removing the idling engine will save gas, reduce noise, and reduce pollution (increasing public health). Since EVs aren't as inefficient at ICE at lower speeds, a 100 miles EV/taxi might even make alot of sense for NYC people.




RE: EVs make sense for City
By jimbojimbo on 2/14/2013 3:14:46 PM , Rating: 1
True. When I lived in Chicago I looked at buying a Volt since there was a parking structure less than a block away with dedicated electric charging stations and just for EVs. However, there was never a guarantee that they would be available so therefore no guarantee you'll be able to charge your car. I bought a normal car and over the following year noticed that only one EV car was ever in them or due to the lot becoming full someone would park a normal car there, like I had to. Make 20% of parking for EV only and you'll get a lot of empty parking spots and pissed off drivers.
Does Bloomberg know who's going to be paying for all that electricity?


By Philippine Mango on 2/14/2013 10:45:57 PM , Rating: 2
yeah but it's for NEW parking...


RE: EVs make sense for City
By chick0n on 2/15/13, Rating: 0
RE: EVs make sense for City
By maugrimtr on 2/15/2013 9:27:58 AM , Rating: 1
Second time in as many days that the myth of the power grid being incapable of handling EVs has emerged. Eventually, one of you will release actual data to try and back up that make-believe scenario. One day.


RE: EVs make sense for City
By wordsworm on 2/15/2013 11:53:19 AM , Rating: 2
I'm always surprised to see an intelligent conversation here. I always come here to see what dumb people like to say. Sometimes out of the blue someone says something remarkably intelligent and then I realize I'm not the only intelligent person on DT.


RE: EVs make sense for City
By chick0n on 2/15/2013 8:38:21 PM , Rating: 2
just like how some shows like myth buster said it doesn't matter if the meat is marinated or not it still taste the same?

do u have any idea how many cars are registered in NYC alone?

it's easy math actually, morons like you love to "oh man show me proof that it can't be done", well if you are dead, you are dead. it might be possible that you can come back to life, sorry but I can't proof that.


RE: EVs make sense for City
By WilcoD on 2/17/2013 11:42:09 AM , Rating: 2
There aren't enough petrol stations to fill up all cars at the same time. If every car was driven for 500 miles every day then we would run out of petrol and oil in a few days as refineries and oil tankers would not be able to keep up with the demand.

So do you agree our petrol and oil based infrastructure is totally inadequate? It is for that particular demand curve.

However just like petrol cars, EV's don't all need to recharge at the same time or require a full charge every day. Since electricity consumption is quite low at night, you can recharge millions of EV's without needing any changes to the grid.


RE: EVs make sense for City
By Reclaimer77 on 2/17/2013 2:11:41 PM , Rating: 2
You've missed the point entirely. Gasoline is easily stored potential energy. Currently there is no way to store electricity for the purposes of EV use. All electricity used must be generated on the fly and send through the grid.

quote:
Since electricity consumption is quite low at night, you can recharge millions of EV's without needing any changes to the grid.


No, absolutely false. You cannot.

In this hypothetical what-if where every registered vehicle in New York City were an EV, there is just absolutely no way the grid and power plants could satisfy the demand. There WOULD be rolling brownouts and blackouts.

Speaking of New York, we've all seen the chaos caused there by storms. The lines at the pump, the gas shortages, etc etc. But even then, because gasoline is easily stored potential energy, they ARE able to power their vehicles and keep the city's basic services going. What happens in a world dependent on EV's when a storm wrecks a major city and the power goes down for weeks?

And if you answer with "everyone will just have a gas generator", I'll smack you in the face with a tuna fish. First that's not remotely believable, secondly if the generator is dependent on fuel, you've failed in proving we can exist as a society without it.


RE: EVs make sense for City
By WilcoD on 2/18/2013 7:32:44 AM , Rating: 2
No you missed the point entirely. The point is that it is a myth that the grid cannot handle EV's.

Taking New York as an example, current domestic electricity consumption is about 611 kWh per month. Average mileage in US is 13476, and electic cars like Tesla S achieve 3.8 miles per kWh. That means total domestic electricity consumption increases by less than 50%. In New York, domestic consumption is 35% of the total, so if all cars in NY were EV's overall electricity consumption only increases by 17%. That's trivial.

In the very unlikely scenario of no electricity for weeks you are far far better of with an EV and solar panels. You need electricity to refuel your petrol car, so petrol cars will run out of fuel even if petrol stations had fuel (which they won't). However people with solar panels can run their house and from the solar panels and EV, even at night.

As a society we depend on electricity far more than we do on petrol. We can easily convert all cars to EV's without any changes in our lifestyles. We can even wean ourselves completely off oil. But we cannot exist without electricity. That's why EV's are the future.


F Marry Kill
By Reclaimer77 on 2/14/13, Rating: 0
RE: F Marry Kill
By Shadowself on 2/14/2013 6:38:13 PM , Rating: 2
Reclaimer, you've said some pretty extreme things here, but his one should have been beneath even you! If I could vote your post to a -10 I would.


RE: F Marry Kill
By Reclaimer77 on 2/14/13, Rating: -1
RE: F Marry Kill
By kypd275 on 2/14/2013 10:24:18 PM , Rating: 4
I'm not going to shoot any Reclaimer77 in the head, but far be it for me to judge someone who does. Frankly I'm a bit let down that there hasn't been one.

Even the First Amendment can't save terrible posts.


RE: F Marry Kill
By Reclaimer77 on 2/15/2013 8:05:44 AM , Rating: 2
Well you're welcome to come try.

Now obviously I wasn't setting out to make a "good post". I was expressing my anger at our "leaders". And yes I really do feel that we would be much better off if half the politicians in this country were just....well let's just say gone.

And is there something wrong with that? I don't think so honestly.


RE: F Marry Kill
By kypd275 on 2/15/2013 11:48:07 AM , Rating: 2
Sorry to disappoint, but I reserve my rounds for enemy combatants and criminals only :p

I'd challenge you on a range any day though :)

There's nothing wrong with expressing displeasure with politicians, I'm sure most people have some grievances against one or more, but you crossed the line with the not-so-subtle hint that they should be killed.


RE: F Marry Kill
By Reclaimer77 on 2/15/2013 12:07:34 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
but you crossed the line with the not-so-subtle hint that they should be killed.


How so? Not seeing a line there really. Hell if you want me to, I can actually make a somewhat plausible case for charges of treason.

I guess the War for Independence crossed a bunch of lines too. But I think that worked out pretty good /shrug

quote:
I'd challenge you on a range any day though :)


Sound fun! Been doing IDPA for around a year now. Good times :)


RE: F Marry Kill
By Shadowself on 2/15/2013 8:05:16 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Not seeing a line there really. Hell if you want me to, I can actually make a somewhat plausible case for charges of treason.
Then clearly you don't know the legal requirements for a charge of treason.

Also the issue really is that you don't see a line at all! You don't think there is a line that can't be crossed by reasonable, sane people. (I'm assuming, of course, that you count yourself as a reasonable, sane person.)

quote:
I guess the War for Independence crossed a bunch of lines too. But I think that worked out pretty good /shrug
As you say, it was a *WAR*. It was declared. For the most part non-combatants were left alone. If, for example, Franklin had been captured by the British, he very likely would have been incarcerated for the remainder of the conflict. It is extremely unlikely the British would have shot him.

Unfortunately, it would seem to be that since you don't see any line at all, that anyone who disagrees with your stance on how our political system should be run is up for possible death -- and you'd sell tickets to it.

Again, you've really crossed the line this time. The sad thing is you don't even know it even after it's pointed out to you.


RE: F Marry Kill
By Reclaimer77 on 2/15/13, Rating: 0
Awesome!
By Ammohunt on 2/14/2013 3:41:47 PM , Rating: 2
To be a handicapped EV driver satisfied with a 16oz soda living in New York!




RE: Awesome!
By Moishe on 2/15/2013 1:34:32 PM , Rating: 2
They're loving their prison. Like a monkey born and raised in a zoo, they probably wouldn't know what to do with freedom. It's pathetic.


RE: Awesome!
By M'n'M on 2/15/2013 4:32:04 PM , Rating: 2
20 or so years ago I went to eat with some friends in a city even more socialist than NYC (Cambridge, MA). We waited a good hour for seats. Not unexpected on a Friday night. Once seated I was amazed at the amount of empty tables given the line and waiting time. They remained empty during our meal. I asked the waiter "Why the empty tables ?". The answer dumbfounded me. Per city ordinance 15% (IIRC) of the tables had to be reserved for non-alcoholic patrons. I said "Huh, you mean like AA ???". He said, "No, we're not allowed to serve alcohol to people seated at any of those tables."

I can only hope that in the intervening years the local businesses applied enough pressure to get the rules changed but I've not eaten in Cambridge since then. Not planning to anytime in the future either.

If Bloomberg wasn't such an arse he'd have offered up some help to add charging stations to existing parking structures instead of impeding the growth and adding to the cost of new ones.


RE: Awesome!
By Ammohunt on 2/18/2013 3:18:50 PM , Rating: 2
Its something i wonder about seriously why anyone would choose to live that way? In a big expensive dirty city with people living on top of people. Like you say they don't know any better in the west were i live the cost of living is a quarter of what it is in NYC and in less that 20 minutes of driving i can be in a place free from nearly all signs of humanity.


Mayor Doomberg
By shaidorsai on 2/17/2013 3:41:39 PM , Rating: 2
This guy is a piece of work...nothing worse than a misguided do-gooder tree hugging liberal douche bag. All the hipster asshats in New York love this guy and no doubt will love the cage they've had built for them by their socialist leader...




RE: Mayor Doomberg
By Netscorer on 2/17/2013 8:09:58 PM , Rating: 2
I'll bet you are the same kind of guy who cried fool when lead paint and asbestos were prohibited from being used in construction and smoking was restricted in public areas. For you, it's all about freedom.


Just complete ignorance
By Beenthere on 2/14/2013 11:25:55 PM , Rating: 2
If Bloomberg want's to pay out of his own parking for and additonal 20% fine. Otherwise hit the road Jack.




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