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C'mon get a Mac says NVIDIA's CEO. He brags "[they've] got the best stuff inside" and proclaims his house is "all mac".  (Source: Shuffle Gazine)
Get a Mac, suggests NVIDIA CEO

Intel is suing NVIDIA in an effort to get them dropped from chipset licensing on Nehalem boards.  NVIDIA has filed countersuit against Intel.  NVIDIA has even gone as far as to sponsor cartoons lampooning Intel.

NVIDIA particularly enraged Intel when it convinced Apple to dump Intel's integrated graphics from its product lineup in favor of NVIDIA designs.   Intel vows it will make a return to the Mac graphics platform, stating, "Graphics is a competitive market and we compete for all new business. "

Apple's decision to opt for NVIDIA is certainly being rewarded with loads of love from the graphics giant.  NVIDIA CEO Jen-Hsun Huang, speaking in Dubai at the American University of Dubai (AUD), showed a lot of affection for the Cupertino company, bragging that his household was "all Apple" according to Shuffle Gazine.

He brags, "Apple uses the best technology for their [computers]. Apple says to their customers: if you buy a computer from us you can be sure we have selected the best technology inside for you. That is their promise to consumers. Their promise to consumers isn’t we’ve selected the best technology for you with the exception of what Intel allows us to use. That’s not their promise. And that’s why Apple uses the best technology where they want whenever they want. And that’s why I’m all Apple! At home it’s just Macs everywhere. It’s NVIDIA’s technology in all of them but I use Macs. My son has two Macs, my daughter has a Mac, there’s an extra Mac just in case and my wife has a Mac. It’s just Mac, Mac, Mac! Because I know it’s got the best stuff inside."

He says Intel's model of standardization doesn't work for all OEMs.  He continued, adding that OEMs that thrive on a luxury image, like Apple, need differentiated technology to support their brands.

Aside from its obvious implications in the Mac vs. PC debate, Mr. Huang's comments throw support behind a platform that doesn't typically cater to modern 3D gaming -- OS X.  With its upcoming Fermi GPUs, NVIDIA is primarily targeting the GPU computing market, despite the fact that most of its current dedicated GPU business comes from computer gaming enthusiasts.





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Oh please
By bradmshannon on 11/10/2009 1:43:41 PM , Rating: 5
What an Apple polisher...




RE: Oh please
By amanojaku on 11/10/2009 1:48:12 PM , Rating: 5
No kidding. BOTH of Steve's apples.


RE: Oh please
By 67STANG on 11/10/2009 1:57:14 PM , Rating: 5
Easier to polish them, when you're swinging on them.


RE: Oh please
By monomer on 11/10/2009 2:49:24 PM , Rating: 3
Considering that Apple just kicked Nvidia to he curb with the release of the new iMacs which have switched over to ATI, JHH has to try something to make sure he keeps his chips in the next MacBook Pro update.


RE: Oh please
By jonmcc33 on 11/10/2009 3:28:07 PM , Rating: 4
Those all still use nVIDIA chipsets even though the graphics are provided by ATi.


RE: Oh please
By Barfo on 11/10/2009 3:39:35 PM , Rating: 6
Well since he said "Apple uses the best technology in their computers" then those ATI graphics cards must be better than Nvidia's.


RE: Oh please
By LRonaldHubbs on 11/10/2009 4:50:13 PM , Rating: 3
Touché, salesman.


RE: Oh please
By Drag0nFire on 11/10/2009 7:02:10 PM , Rating: 3
Six please?


RE: Oh please
By Brandon Hill on 11/10/2009 7:18:47 PM , Rating: 2
I think he deserved it :)


RE: Oh please
By riku0116 on 11/10/2009 4:48:14 PM , Rating: 2
Well whatever his intentions, he just sounds like a total douche to me.


RE: Oh please
By teko on 11/10/2009 3:15:49 PM , Rating: 3
"It’s just Mac, Mac, Mac! Because I know it’s got the best stuff inside."

Did anyone tell him yet that there's Intel inside a Mac?


RE: Oh please
By adiposity on 11/10/2009 5:09:46 PM , Rating: 5
I doubt Nvidia would argue that in the CPU business, Intel is king...so it doesn't really hurt his argument.

On the other hand, Intel GPUs suck, and we all know it.

-Dan


RE: Oh please
By StevoLincolnite on 11/10/2009 8:59:52 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
On the other hand, Intel GPUs suck, and we all know it.


Hence why I call them "Intel decelerators" - Fits Intels IGP rather well. :)

I don't think I recall Intel -ever- making a decent graphics chip, there AGP card the Intel i740 was relatively slow at the time, and had buggy drivers, so realistically the situation hasn't changed over the years.


RE: Oh please
By MrPoletski on 11/12/2009 6:31:12 AM , Rating: 1
i740 FTW!!

no, wait...


RE: Oh please
By LRonaldHubbs on 11/10/2009 3:35:37 PM , Rating: 4
Obviously he has a tremendous degree of credibility. I mean, after opening a can of whoop-ass on Intel and delivering an exceptional Fermi demo, what reason is there not to take his word for it?

/sarcasm


RE: Oh please
By SavagePotato on 11/10/2009 6:56:06 PM , Rating: 5
I would go so far as to say this guy's douchebaggery is going to eventually sink nvidia.

Seriously they should replace him as ceo.


RE: Oh please
By smegz on 11/11/2009 2:29:56 PM , Rating: 2
Let's face it; NVIDIA loves Apple because even when NVIDIA was pushing failure ridden GPU's for Apple's notebooks, Apple stuck with them. I'd love a company that stuck with me when I was dishing crap too.

IMO, Apple should have cut NVIDIA loose after the 8000 series problems and considered ATI mobile chips. They already use ATI parts in their desktops and ATI's mobile offerings are quite competitive.


I'd love to ...
By MarcLeFou on 11/10/2009 1:48:28 PM , Rating: 5
I'd love to see how the other big OEM's will react to this when they're bidding on their graphics business.

Maybe a "since you love Apple so much, why don't you stick to selling to them and we'll show ATI some love" ?




RE: I'd love to ...
By 67STANG on 11/10/2009 2:00:19 PM , Rating: 5
I find it funny that the CEO of a company that makes video cards for gamers, can't play most games at home.


RE: I'd love to ...
By ksherman on 11/10/09, Rating: -1
RE: I'd love to ...
By jonmcc33 on 11/10/2009 3:30:23 PM , Rating: 3
Same hardware can be found in all PCs. I don't think he's talking about just the hardware. I think he's talking about the Mac "experience" which includes their non-gaming OS.


RE: I'd love to ...
By kattanna on 11/10/2009 3:38:21 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
Yeah, but he is referring to the hardware


yes, and how many MAC people, LOL can't bring myself to say gamers, snickers.. brag about their multi GPU setup?


RE: I'd love to ...
By OoklaTheMok on 11/10/2009 4:26:13 PM , Rating: 3
OK, moving on to consoles then...

Who's graphics chips are in the top two consoles? That would be AMD/ATI :)

So if he does play games at all, he most likely does so using a console with a graphics chip from his competitor.

Interesting thing is that AMD even said that nVidia was appearing to move away from gaming and gaming enthusiasts... If Macs and server computing are what nVidia is interested in, they are really painting themselves into a niche.


RE: I'd love to ...
By grath on 11/11/2009 5:58:29 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Who's graphics chips are in the top two consoles? That would be AMD/ATI :)


Yes... because the graphics capabilities of Wii are really something to brag about...

quote:
So if he does play games at all, he most likely does so using a console with a graphics chip from his competitor.


Call me crazy, but I think this guy might opt for the console with a nVidia GPU in it?

His same reasoning would apply, sure you can buy the Xbox360 with a bunch of cheap hardware in it, or pay a little more for a PS3 with somewhat better quality hardware in what people derogatorily call the "luxury segment." Just like PC vs Mac.


RE: I'd love to ...
By VaultDweller on 11/10/2009 2:04:34 PM , Rating: 2
I have my doubts. The CEOs might not like him for it, but they will likely continue to use whatever video cards they think will help their bottom line.


RE: I'd love to ...
By MarcLeFou on 11/10/2009 4:02:49 PM , Rating: 2
In my personal experience, buyers from big companies are surprinsigly vindinctive.

No doubt NVIDIA will be included in the bidding process but I wouldn't be surprised if ATI would be told what prices NVIDIA's bid was (and given a second bidding chance) if ATI's bid is higher at some of these OEM's. I've seen it happen more than once in my trade.


Oh really....
By FITCamaro on 11/10/2009 2:12:19 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
He brags, "Apple uses the best technology for their [computers]. Apple says to their customers: if you buy a computer from us you can be sure we have selected the best technology inside for you. That is their promise to consumers. Their promise to consumers isn’t we’ve selected the best technology for you with the exception of what Intel allows us to use. That’s not their promise. And that’s why Apple uses the best technology where they want whenever they want. And that’s why I’m all Apple! At home it’s just Macs everywhere. It’s NVIDIA’s technology in all of them but I use Macs. My son has two Macs, my daughter has a Mac, there’s an extra Mac just in case and my wife has a Mac. It’s just Mac, Mac, Mac! Because I know it’s got the best stuff inside."


So why does the top GPU out right now not work on a Mac?

PS - You insult Scrubs (the original show, not the new NBC crap) by putting it in this article.




RE: Oh really....
By Brandon Hill on 11/10/2009 2:11:45 PM , Rating: 3
New NBC crap? You mean the new ABC crap with JD's scruffy adolescent beard and craptastic story lines?

Considering that the pic is from the ABC running of Scrubs, you can cut us some slack ;)


RE: Oh really....
By FITCamaro on 11/10/2009 5:25:52 PM , Rating: 2
Sorry forgot what channel.

But yeah the new stuff isn't great. They took the hatred and evilness of the characters away and it ruined everything. And they basically castrated The Todd. The show is worthless without The Todd. Same goes for the janitor.


RE: Oh really....
By Brandon Hill on 11/10/2009 6:03:07 PM , Rating: 3
RE: Oh really....
By SavagePotato on 11/10/2009 7:01:07 PM , Rating: 5
Reading that quote I have just realized a terrible truth.

Jen-Hsun is actually pirks! It explains EVERYTHING.

His cocky attitude, his propensity for opening cans of whoop-ass on himself.

This is a revelation folks.


RE: Oh really....
By SavagePotato on 11/12/2009 5:52:18 PM , Rating: 2
Mace Windu : We are on our way to make sure Jen-Hsun returns his emergency powers to the shareholders.

Anakin : He won't give up his power, I've just learned a terrible truth, Jen-Hsun is a forum troll lord.

Mace Windu : A forum troll lord?!

Anakin : Yes, the one we have been looking for.

Mace Windu : How do you know this?

Anakin : He knows the ways of the dumbass. He has been trained to use the douche side.

Mace Windu : Are you sure?

Anakin : Absolutely.

Mace Windu : Then our worst fears have been realized, we must move quickly if nVidia is to survive bankruptcy and non stop lexus rants.


Laptop
By HolyMoses on 11/10/2009 3:13:25 PM , Rating: 2
Does anyone know what tablet is sitting on the table in that picture?




RE: Laptop
By ksherman on 11/10/2009 3:16:53 PM , Rating: 2
looks *almost* like a ModBook Pro

http://www.axiotron.com/index.php?id=modbookpro

But not quite... Maybe its a prototype of something. Heck, if I were a big-shot CEO I would be using the latest, bad-ass prototype I can get my hands on. But, that's why I'm not a millionaire CEO :)


RE: Laptop
By weskurtz0081 on 11/10/2009 3:25:10 PM , Rating: 2
According to this, it's an Nvidia prototype.

http://www.macrumors.com/2009/11/10/nvidia-ceos-ta...


RE: Laptop
By HolyMoses on 11/10/2009 3:26:20 PM , Rating: 2
Cool, thanks.


Apple uses....
By Cheesew1z69 on 11/10/2009 2:18:33 PM , Rating: 1
The SAME components as EVERY OTHER PC....FFS, they are NOTHING SPECIAL....




RE: Apple uses....
By weskurtz0081 on 11/10/2009 3:01:57 PM , Rating: 1
I thought electronics companies binned all the parts into Apple and PC's. Apple gets the absolute best enthusiast equipment possible, and the pc OEM get to squabble over the low end scraps! These are the best video cards available right, since they come in the Mac pro, they must be absolute top of the line!

# NVIDIA GeForce GT 120 512MB
# 2x NVIDIA GeForce GT 120 512MB [Add $150.00]
# 3x NVIDIA GeForce GT 120 512MB [Add $300.00]
# 4x NVIDIA GeForce GT 120 512MB [Add $450.00]
# ATI Radeon HD 4870 512MB [Add $200.00]

I will admit, the 4870 is a good card, but you cannot even get it in X-fire, and there are newer cards available, as well as faster cards.


RE: Apple uses....
By aj28 on 11/10/2009 7:18:21 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
These are the best video cards available right, since they come in the Mac pro, they must be absolute top of the line!


Worst sarcasm fail I've read this week.

Notice how there are two, three, and four of the low-end GeForce card, yes? They took a cheap card with the latest tech and multiplied it for people who don't need performance, but do require multiple monitors and/or support for the latest standards in graphic technology. The 4870 is the high-end, single-card option for those requiring raw performance on single or dual-monitor applications.

Unlike in the PC market, there is no middle ground in the Mac-buying crowd, and thus no other options are provided. Given that the 5XXX series is in short supply and their primary advantage over the 4XXX series is support for a Microsoft proprietary technology... What would you propose they use, eh?

(Or did you just immediately blast Apple without thinking because it's the cool thing to do?)


RE: Apple uses....
By RubberJohnny on 11/10/2009 8:17:16 PM , Rating: 1
So the Geforce has
quote:
support for the latest standards in graphic technology
But the 58XX only has (conveniently forgetting about eyefinity)
quote:
support for a Microsoft proprietary technology
Which one is it then?

Worst apple defending fail i've read this week.

And they are still shit options...


RE: Apple uses....
By weskurtz0081 on 11/10/2009 10:21:21 PM , Rating: 2
I was picking on Apple for the obvious reason, none of them are at the top of the high end cards, I thought that was obvious, sorry.

There are plenty of cards that after faster than the 4870, and obviously the Nvidia option is not high end at all.

Sorry, next time I will be a little more clear to prevent any confusion. When I said "top of the line" I actually meant "top of the line".

You simply cannot buy a Mac with a top of the line video card, there are 4XXX cards that are faster as well as 2XX Nvidia cards that are faster than both offered.


My next gaming GPU...
By lukasbradley on 11/10/2009 4:10:20 PM , Rating: 5
...will now be from ATI.




And another...
By IcePickFreak on 11/10/2009 4:00:35 PM , Rating: 2
This guy belongs in the bin along with the Tesla CEO; they both act like they're still in high school, more so than some kids that actually are in high school.

The PC industry became less of a performance competition and more of a who's playing golf with who satire about 10 years ago. Stuff has been crippled, vaporized, and price-gimped over who's rubbing who's balls this week. I'm glad these jackasses are the ones making the majority of the money in the company and not the people innovating and advancing technology.




RE: And another...
By Justin Time on 11/10/2009 6:00:32 PM , Rating: 2
No, it's all part of an inscrutable cunning plan to boost computer sales.

Every time Huang makes one of his trademark idiot statements, next morning, while reading their daily news, people around the world snort coffee all over their keyboards and are forced to buy a new notebook.

The man is a genius.


Nvidiot
By 2bdetermine on 11/10/2009 2:34:03 PM , Rating: 3
Had anyone remind this idiot what their company did to PhysX driver.




Ah ah
By dasyentist on 11/10/2009 5:38:58 PM , Rating: 1
well if Apple choose the best parts for their shitbox, why does apple started to have troubles with all their notebook that uses nvidia chip ? (GF9300)

the first apple notebook that had an nvidia chip + intel cpu (the geforce 9300) all started to have troubles like 2 weeks after ! Just like HP and Dell had !

anyways, the nvidia CEO is proud, too proud , looks like he thinks he's god , He will causes the nvidia fall down...




RE: Ah ah
By aj28 on 11/10/2009 7:23:03 PM , Rating: 2
Have to agree with this one. I see far more nVidia chipsets and GPUs fail than ATi or Intel, even taking into account the rather massive market share they once had. While the case has already been made for the 6XXX notebook chipset failures, I can't explain their ongoing problems...

Apple would be far better off going with ATi. It's a shame they no longer make Intel chipsets, as they were quite good in their time.


CEO fluffer
By AyashiKaibutsu on 11/10/2009 2:25:07 PM , Rating: 2
I bet apple gave him all the comps in his home too




Off topic but...
By B166ER on 11/10/2009 4:42:49 PM , Rating: 2
Anyone know how well ATI's transcoding app does with the new 5000 series cards? That's my real make or break with ATI, Badaboom was awesome for me with my aging 8800. Its definitely time to get a new card, ATI's screaming for me, but I cant pull trigger without knowing how well it transcodes!




This dirty son of a #@*@!...
By Boze on 11/10/2009 4:43:39 PM , Rating: 2
If it hadn't been for gamers during the 1990s, Nvidia wouldn't even exist today. And gamers use Windows. No serious gamer is using Linux, Mac OS X, or any other operating system. No serious game developer is developing for any other operating system.

After all this time, with gamers pushing Nvidia to new heights by raving over their video cards, thus putting into the public's mind that an Nvidia card is what you needed to do any kind of gaming on, this son of a bitch backstabs the entire gaming community by asking everyone to switch to Macs? For what? So they can pay $2000 for a machine you can build yourself for $1000, or even less? So they can play games seven years after they've been released on the consoles and Windows machines?

Well Mr. Nvidia CEO, you can kindly go to hell and take your graphics cards with you. From here on out, I'll buy AMD & ATI for my gaming rigs. Have fun making shitty integrated graphics for every new iMac, MacBook, iPhone, iPod, and iTablet Apple craps out. Meanwhile, ATI can not alienate any one aspect of their userbase and hopefully get into some new Blackberries, Palms, and Android phones, along with other companies' devices.

Ungrateful asshole.




RE: This dirty son of a #@*@!...
By sebmel on 11/11/09, Rating: 0
blah-blah-blah
By mattclary on 11/10/2009 4:50:42 PM , Rating: 2
All I see is the hot Sarah Chalke!




Well...
By OblivionMage on 11/10/2009 6:27:58 PM , Rating: 2
I've always liked ATI, personally.




You know.
By SavagePotato on 11/10/2009 6:54:11 PM , Rating: 2
That picture of him sitting at the table with his arms out makes me imagine, and wish for a Bobby Lee parody of him opening a can of whoop ass on Intel.




By check on 11/11/2009 12:44:15 PM , Rating: 1
Oh yeah Macs have the best stuff inside, minus that pesky operating system that doesn't allow you to use a video card to play video games.

So let me get this straight...
nVidia makes graphics cards, graphics cards are purchased buy people who want to play video games, the CEO of nVidia advocates a system that is ill equipped to play said video games. What a fucking idiot.

I'll admit that I don't know what percentage of profits nVidia gets from its lower end graphics cards and chipsets that go to OEMs, but I'd have to think that the money they receive from gamers buying graphics cards from retailers is pretty substantial.




Kudos
By TxJeepers on 11/10/09, Rating: -1
RE: Kudos
By jonmcc33 on 11/10/2009 3:32:11 PM , Rating: 2
But still uses their products...


RE: Kudos
By thekdub on 11/10/2009 4:28:37 PM , Rating: 4
Thats like standing up to Stalin when you're best friends with Mussolini.


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