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NVIDIA says it will enter the netbook market when the market matures

Netbooks, sub-notebooks, mini-laptops, whatever you call them they all equate to the same low-cost computing device. The netbook is selling well, though increasing sales are hurting profits at CPU makers and computer makers alike.

Despite falling profits, computer makers are rushing into the market and graphics maker NVIDIA has announced that it has serious interest in the netbook market. Yahoo Tech reports that NVIDIA has again stated its interest in the netbook realm, but says it will wait for the category to grow before jumping in.

NVIDIA and VIA came to an agreement earlier this year for NVIDIA to build graphics chipsets to work with VIA's Nano processor which is expected to be a challenger to Intel's Atom CPU in the netbook market. VIA announced in August that it was leaving the chipset business claiming that there was no room left for third-party chipset makers.

NVIDIA's CFO Marv Burkett said, "We're not saying we're not interested [in netbooks]; it's a matter of how the market will evolve."

If NVIDIA did enter into the netbook market with a product like Tegra that it introduced this year, it would be great for netbook users. Tegra is a system-on-a-chip device that wraps an Arm core, graphics core, HD video decoder and other components onto a single chip and is intended for the smartphone market.

The reason something similar for netbooks would be so great is that the typical netbook running the class leading Intel Atom CPU can't handle HD content. ASUS recently announced a new Eee Box system that uses the Atom N270 common in netbooks that can handle HD video, but to do so required the addition of an ATI HD 3400 series graphics card. That won’t work well in a mobile netbook that needs long battery life and compact dimensions. The lack of even modest graphics capability in most netbooks means that things like video games and high quality video playback are typically lacking.

NVIDIA remained tight lipped on entry into netbooks according to Yahoo Tech only reiterating that it was watching the market.



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VIA Nano
By Suomynona on 12/4/2008 2:06:57 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
NVIDIA and VIA came to an agreement earlier this year for NVIDIA to build graphics chipsets to work with VIA's Nano processor which is expected to be a challenger to Intel's Atom CPU in the netbook market.

Yes, but can it play Duke Nukem Forever?




RE: VIA Nano
By Mitch101 on 12/4/2008 2:09:43 PM , Rating: 3
Currently Duke Nukem Forever will only play on the Phantom game system. ;)


RE: VIA Nano
By Dreifort on 12/4/2008 2:12:32 PM , Rating: 2
"Oooooooooh, that's gotta hurt!"

"It's time to kick a$$ and chew bubble gum. And I'm all out of gum."


RE: VIA Nano
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 12/4/2008 2:12:43 PM , Rating: 5
Does it have graphics card from Bitboys Oy?


RE: VIA Nano
By on 12/4/08, Rating: -1
Raon Everun Note
By SilthDraeth on 12/4/2008 3:14:05 PM , Rating: 2
Uses a turion, and a dedicated graphics, can play games, and is smaller than the EEE. The only problem is it costs double or more than the EEE.

And of course battery life is lower. So size and power isn't the restraining factor, cost is.




Biggest non-news in a while
By ET on 12/4/2008 7:11:46 PM , Rating: 2
I thought it was a news item, but checking again, looks like it's a blog entry. Still, why regurgitate what we know when there's nothing new regarding NVIDIA and netbooks? This is all pretty old news, and I felt I wasted my time when I reached the end of the article.




macbook air
By obiwankenobi on 12/4/2008 9:32:17 PM , Rating: 2
What Pirks failed to mention, is that on top of it having an incredibly light-weight body, it uses dramatic wallet-weight-reduction techniques, to come out weighing less than any netbook.

you said it all dude!!!




um...
By dflynchimp on 12/5/2008 12:00:45 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
running the class leading Intel Atom CPU


What about the Via Nano? *ducks incoming flames*




Good Market Strategy
By ThisSpaceForRent on 12/5/2008 12:15:55 AM , Rating: 2
Waiting to see which way the market goes.

That's how our company gets ahead! By shunning new growth opportunities, and waiting until our competitors are entrenched before we get into a market. That way we're fighting an uphill battle all the way!

I mean only pussies get into an emerging market, and risk having a large market share. Real men make things more difficult than they have to be, and grow up to manage automotive companies. =)




Listen up NVidia
By masher2 (blog) on 12/4/08, Rating: -1
RE: Listen up NVidia
By Dreifort on 12/4/2008 2:13:42 PM , Rating: 2
HP's new netbooks (mininotes) have 92% of full size keyboard. But they are plastic in most part of design...but their design is much more trendy than the rest, lol.


RE: Listen up NVidia
By Pirks on 12/4/08, Rating: -1
RE: Listen up NVidia
By napalmjack on 12/4/2008 2:58:52 PM , Rating: 2
Pay no mind, masher.
The nice thing about netbooks is the small footprint. The Air is still way too big.

Check out the Dell Mini9. Passive cooling, SSD, absolutely no moving parts.


RE: Listen up NVidia
By Pirks on 12/4/08, Rating: -1
RE: Listen up NVidia
By murphyslabrat on 12/4/2008 4:37:44 PM , Rating: 5
What Pirks failed to mention, is that on top of it having an incredibly light-weight body, it uses dramatic wallet-weight-reduction techniques, to come out weighing less than any netbook.


RE: Listen up NVidia
By Pirks on 12/4/08, Rating: -1
RE: Listen up NVidia
By JoshuaBuss on 12/4/2008 5:13:55 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
High quality things never come cheap.

this all-metal casing tablet and many other sub-$600 HP business laptops would disagree with that sentiment:

http://cgi.ebay.com/HP-TC4400-TABLET-BUSINESS-LAPT...


RE: Listen up NVidia
By Pirks on 12/4/08, Rating: 0
RE: Listen up NVidia
By JoshuaBuss on 12/4/2008 9:36:13 PM , Rating: 2
some of those are never-been-used laptops, just last years' models.


RE: Listen up NVidia
By Pirks on 12/4/2008 10:14:14 PM , Rating: 2
Sadly the one you shown me above on eBay is not one of those ;-)


RE: Listen up NVidia
By paydirt on 12/5/2008 8:27:57 AM , Rating: 2
Do you two/three need to whip out your penises so you can impress Masher?

I took Masher's comment to say that, hmmm, something isn't on that list of three things Masher wants in a netbook, oh yeah, graphics performance or HD.


RE: Listen up NVidia
By William Gaatjes on 12/5/2008 12:44:43 PM , Rating: 1
Woeha !

HA !

HA !

What a great remark.

I could here the "indiana jones whip" sound when i read your post :).

HA !


RE: Listen up NVidia
By napalmjack on 12/4/2008 4:42:48 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
decent legible screen good for web browsing & stuff


Step 1: Put on glasses. Alternatively, you could also insert contact lenses.

Step 2: Stop drinking the Kool-Aid.

Step 3: Enjoy.


RE: Listen up NVidia
By Pirks on 12/4/2008 4:49:41 PM , Rating: 2
Why bother with contact lenses and glasses if there is a nice lightweight ultraportable with great screen which requires no glasses to read? I just don't get it.


RE: Listen up NVidia
By MonkeyPaw on 12/4/2008 5:46:19 PM , Rating: 2
If you need corrective lenses to view current netbook's 10" screen, then chances are your eyes already depend on a prescription.

Nearly everything that people say they want in a netbook can be found in these things called "notebooks." The problem is, no one wants to pay notebook prices for notebook features.


RE: Listen up NVidia
By Black69ta on 12/4/2008 8:46:00 PM , Rating: 2
Yes! All this Pirks and we get to enjoy the dictatorship of Jobs. And Masher,in addition to what Pirks touts, overlooking all the other gadgets that fulfill those roles and are not made by Apple, you too can be one of the Diots that Steve jobs loves so much, yes you can be a genuine iDiot


RE: Listen up NVidia
By Pirks on 12/4/2008 9:47:52 PM , Rating: 2
Don't listen to fanatics, masher, choose hardware yourself and for your own needs only. Those braindead Apple bashers can tell you a lot of various lies, so keep your eyes peeled.


RE: Listen up NVidia
By xxsk8er101xx on 12/4/2008 11:45:38 PM , Rating: 3
ID 10 T's annoy me.

Apple is full of lies. First apple says you need an anti-virus. Then they retract and say you don't need it. On top of that Apple says that you would be an idiot to believe their ads.

Think about that one. Apple is calling you an idiot for believing their ads.


RE: Listen up NVidia
By Cheesew1z69 on 12/5/2008 8:27:22 AM , Rating: 2
You are calling other people fanatics? Righttttttttttt <rolls eyes>


RE: Listen up NVidia
By sprockkets on 12/4/2008 4:09:55 PM , Rating: 2
Thinness does not a netbook make.

And netbooks still have stuff like, oh ports on the side.

And don't cost $1800 either.

One of these netbook makers has a graphics chip on it. Kinda a waste to me for $1000, but it's there.


RE: Listen up NVidia
By Pirks on 12/4/2008 4:27:36 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, like you use these "netbook ports" when you're on the run. Sounds funny, but try to tell those fairy tales to someone else.

Cost is necessitated by a high quality build. Masher said he doesn't want cheapo plastic - hence all options except for MacBook Air are out of the picture. Once he changes his mind and accepts compromise in build quality - THEN it's ok to look at other cheapo netbooks too.


RE: Listen up NVidia
By napalmjack on 12/4/2008 4:46:05 PM , Rating: 2
No, in this case, cost is necessitated by the logo on the cover.


RE: Listen up NVidia
By Pirks on 12/4/2008 4:54:05 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, yeah, you faith is strong, I know. I'm not interested in the religious disussion though, so if you excuse me...


RE: Listen up NVidia
By sprockkets on 12/4/2008 5:14:43 PM , Rating: 2
Last time I checked, your loser laptop couldn't even power a DVD drive. But if it had two, maybe it just could.
And what? I could by 4 netbooks for your stupid MBA. I'm not worried about plastic vs. metal. Masher might as well get something made out of carbon fiber, which is stronger yet lighter anyhow.

"Oh look at how thin my MBA is!"

"What does it do your you?"

"Oh, uh, nothing. It does mean though can't replace my battery, so when I'm out, I'm screwed. Otherwise, it looks great."


RE: Listen up NVidia
By Pirks on 12/4/08, Rating: -1
RE: Listen up NVidia
By MonkeyPaw on 12/4/2008 6:09:10 PM , Rating: 2
quote:

Yeah, like you use these "netbook ports" when you're on the run. Sounds funny, but try to tell those fairy tales to someone else.


Yes, I use those ports all the time on my Eee 701. I often have a USB thumb drive and a USB mouse plugged in, as well as an SD Card in the slot, and occasionally a plug in the ethernet port and one in the headphones jack. Extra ports are always better than not enough.

quote:

Cost is necessitated by a high quality build. Masher said he doesn't want cheapo plastic - hence all options except for MacBook Air are out of the picture. Once he changes his mind and accepts compromise in build quality - THEN it's ok to look at other cheapo netbooks too.


I don't know if you've actually seen the netbooks for sale these days. The Dell Mini 9 has been praised for its build quality, and HP's mininote is also a solid build. The Acer One and MSI Wind aren't too bad either. The Eee is solid, just not nearly as stylish. Personally, I want something functional, yet not so expensive that I lose my shirt if the thing gets stolen or broken (my Eee lives in my work vehicle).

However, if envy is all you want in a notebook, I've found that whenever I'm in a public place on my Eee, I nearly always get comments about how "cool" it is. All things considered, impressing strangers is not all that valuable a feature.

Oh, and here's your Apple build quality:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/mobile/display/200812...
I guess they should test their products as much as they decorate them.


RE: Listen up NVidia
By Pirks on 12/4/2008 6:39:00 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
here's your Apple build quality
Doh. Some freezes and waves? That's nothing compared to my brand new Gateway P-173X FX gamebook overheating and freakin' SHUTTING ITSELF DOWN after 10 minutes of gaming!

Apple has a loooong way ahead to reach THIS RECORD LOW level of PC build quality, my friend. I just happen to have live example of this "PC industry" quality on my hands. Thanks Gateway, I'll seriously consider MacBook next time I need a decent machine. I got burned with PC build quality and no words of yours can change my _practical_ life experience, sorry :)


RE: Listen up NVidia
By sprockkets on 12/4/2008 9:11:19 PM , Rating: 2
Don't worry monkeypaw, Pirks just doesn't realize that apple doesn't know how to make a laptop work with any REAL graphics chip because it doesn't expect anyone to run any REAL games on it, or they haven't figured out how to properly cool all that waste heat generated by their overinflated price and ego.


RE: Listen up NVidia
By Pirks on 12/4/2008 9:54:01 PM , Rating: 2
nVidia 9600M GT is not a real graphics chip? What is a real graphics chip then?


RE: Listen up NVidia
By JarvisTheGray on 12/10/2008 7:52:10 AM , Rating: 2
Wondering the same thing myself. So "real" chips have to run all games at max settings with 8x AF and 4x AA??


RE: Listen up NVidia
By Pirks on 12/10/2008 6:28:45 PM , Rating: 2
Who are you talking to? sprockkets? He/she is too dumb to answer your question :-)


RE: Listen up NVidia
By Black69ta on 12/10/2008 12:15:49 PM , Rating: 2
Pirks of course your Macbook doesn't overheat during heavy intense gaming...It can't play them! As for your Gateway... Well I've preached against them forever They are like the apple of the PC world. Yes its pretty, but it Sucks. But just out of curiosity what surface are you gaming on?


RE: Listen up NVidia
By Pirks on 12/10/2008 6:51:47 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
It can't play them
Who can't play them? Your sorry dumb a$$? That's possible. But the 9600M GT in MacBook? Of course it can. You better learn the facts before posting your fanboyish remarks, moron.


RE: Listen up NVidia
By murphyslabrat on 12/4/2008 6:33:21 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
One of these netbook makers has a graphics chip on it. Kinda a waste to me for $1000, but it's there.

The Asus f10 has a 9300, but that's only $680. Completely not a waste.


RE: Listen up NVidia
By MikeMurphy on 12/4/2008 4:15:30 PM , Rating: 3
What I want in a Netbook:

- A high resolution screen!
- 4+ hours of battery life on a worn-in battery
- Reasonable GPU (eg. no i945 chipset, nvidia or ati pls)
- HDMI


RE: Listen up NVidia
By Pirks on 12/4/08, Rating: -1
RE: Listen up NVidia
By TheSpaniard on 12/4/2008 4:47:03 PM , Rating: 2
if the air was 2 inches smaller maybe

it is too big for this class of laptop


RE: Listen up NVidia
By Pirks on 12/4/08, Rating: 0
RE: Listen up NVidia
By TheSpaniard on 12/4/2008 8:57:39 PM , Rating: 2
so the 12" HPs wouldnt count?

they are small metal and around the same price...


RE: Listen up NVidia
By Pirks on 12/4/2008 10:17:48 PM , Rating: 2
No, because they don't have full size keyboard


RE: Listen up NVidia
By TheSpaniard on 12/5/2008 8:09:26 AM , Rating: 2
uhhh... maybe Mac 12" dont have full sized keyboards but HP ones do 2530p and for tablet functions 2730p


RE: Listen up NVidia
By Pirks on 12/5/2008 1:46:37 PM , Rating: 2
Mac 13" does have a full size keyboard, PC 12" does not because 12" is too small for a full size one.


RE: Listen up NVidia
By TheSpaniard on 12/5/2008 6:10:27 PM , Rating: 2
someone call HP and tell them to stop false advertising then...


RE: Listen up NVidia
By Pirks on 12/5/2008 6:24:48 PM , Rating: 2
Are there any ads claiming that 12" HP has a full size keyboard? Show me one please.


RE: Listen up NVidia
By TheSpaniard on 12/7/2008 1:19:51 AM , Rating: 2
http://gizmodo.com/5038117/hp-elitebook-2530p-12-i...

enjoy the specs... keyboard size is there somewhere

"Input devices Full-sized keyboard, enhanced dual pointing devices (touchpad and pointstick) with scroll zone, optional 2 MP Webcam with Business Card Reader Software"


RE: Listen up NVidia
By Pirks on 12/8/2008 4:16:17 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, this HP seems to be as decent hardware wise as MBA.

While MacBook Air stomps on HP's puny Intel GMA P.O.S. graphics chip with its nVidia 9300 one, HP book returns the favor with its EV-DO/etc wireless options which Macs always lacked. So it's a tie hardware wise.

Software wise? This is a totally different topic, fortunately ;)


RE: Listen up NVidia
By napalmjack on 12/4/2008 4:47:36 PM , Rating: 2
What are you, married to them?


RE: Listen up NVidia
By Pirks on 12/4/2008 4:57:30 PM , Rating: 2
To whom?


RE: Listen up NVidia
By sprockkets on 12/4/2008 5:17:14 PM , Rating: 2
He's Steve Job's b!tch. Everytime he gets a MBA sold he gets laid.


RE: Listen up NVidia
By Pirks on 12/4/2008 5:42:20 PM , Rating: 2
I wasn't asking you little jerk, so please STFU and let adult people talk in peace. Thank you :)


RE: Listen up NVidia
By sprockkets on 12/4/2008 9:03:54 PM , Rating: 2
"Waaaa! I can't stand you making fun of my apple ego! I'm going to put my ipod up my ears and close my eyes."


RE: Listen up NVidia
By Pirks on 12/4/2008 10:04:48 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I'm going to put my ipod up my ears and close my eyes
How about "I'm going to stick my brand new Alienware M17 in your ugly mug" instead? ;-)

I must admit that PC industry can do some decent gamebooks like this M17, which unfortunately does not fix the problem with piece-o-feces PC junk like this Gateway P-173 I mentioned above.


RE: Listen up NVidia
By TheSpaniard on 12/5/2008 8:17:21 AM , Rating: 2
see thats the problem....

you are looking at cheap/low end consumer items...

which obviously Mac does not count as...

you have to be comparing it to either the buisness level Dell and HP or Sony... which would have a more comprable price


RE: Listen up NVidia
By Pirks on 12/5/2008 1:50:04 PM , Rating: 2
Are you REALLY sure PC gamebooks priced at $1400 US are CHEAP/LOW END items? Time to wake up from your hallucinating dreams, buddy! :-P


RE: Listen up NVidia
By TheSpaniard on 12/9/2008 8:22:08 AM , Rating: 2
oh no I wasnt refering to the 12 or 13 we were discussing...

I was refering to the $200-$600 netbooks they are selling...


RE: Listen up NVidia
By Pirks on 12/9/2008 5:05:21 PM , Rating: 2
Those $200 netbooks are not the answer to the masher's original question because they don't have full size keyboard. Currently only the MacBook Air or this $1500 HP 12" Elite-blah-blah business notebook seem to be the closest match to what masher was looking for.


RE: Listen up NVidia
By TheSpaniard on 12/10/2008 8:16:11 PM , Rating: 2
right but even they dont qualify for the target market...

neither of these is going in my gfs purse. I dont masher necessarily wants one for his man-bag but I was under the impression that 7-10 was the target size

like that outragously crappy 11(I think) Sony laptops that cost $2 000 and did absolutely nothing?


RE: Listen up NVidia
By Pirks on 12/10/2008 9:16:00 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I was under the impression that 7-10 was the target size
If masher really wanted full size keyboard then he definitely meant some sort of 12" or 13" ultraportable 'cause you can't get full size keyboard in a notebook smaller than that.


RE: Listen up NVidia
By TheSpaniard on 12/10/2008 9:41:57 PM , Rating: 2
I think someone mentioned a flip out keyboard design?

folded into 3 parts I guess...

the whole idea of his netbook is improbable...

LONG battery life + performance + small?

choose 2


RE: Listen up NVidia
By Pirks on 12/10/2008 10:35:35 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
the whole idea of his netbook is improbable
That's why I suggested MacBook Air (or your HP Elite) as the closest replacement for that fantastic ubernetbook that masher wants.


RE: Listen up NVidia
By TheSpaniard on 12/11/2008 9:43:44 AM , Rating: 2
right,

but I think he was hoping that someone would design something new that fulfilled all of his requirements...

but you are right our choices represent the best the market can offer at this point


RE: Listen up NVidia
By Black69ta on 12/10/2008 12:52:29 PM , Rating: 2
yes a $1400 "Game Book" is cheap. a "game book" name usually calls to mind a certain amount of performance. And that much performance has a price tag, so if it cost $1400 and still has the Graphics, CPU, Chipset, HD and RAM then they had to go cheap somewhere. Gateway is for brain dead uneducated PC buyers who buy on name recognition alone. I don't mean uneducated as in elementary drop-out but as in someone who doesn't read online and magazine reviews to aid in buying decision. That is the main problem with PC v. Apple discussions you compare one company with slow but quality hardware and suspicious at minimum business practices, to many companies with various hardware and business practices

I bought my wife a Toshiba 17" Qosmio from BEST BUY for about $11255 ($1549 MSRP). I wanted her to have discrete graphics and this was about the cheapest one I could find. it is Centrino 2 and 4GB DDR3 but the HDD is only 200GB. but overall it is a pretty good laptop. it is only a 9700GT but still not a bad setup for under $1200 BTW in store ad right now is $1249 BUT ONLINE ONLY OUTLET SHOP was $999 so I talked them into giving me 10% off the $1249

Anyway point is that "true" gaming notebooks are still up there around $4k like the X305-Q708 but it specs much better


RE: Listen up NVidia
By JoshuaBuss on 12/4/2008 5:17:43 PM , Rating: 2
you just don't get it pirks, the air is not a netbook because it's too large and way too expensive. (and by large I'm talking about "does it fit in a large pocket?", not "ooo thin! pretty!")

get over it and grow up already.

if HP put a larger battery and the nano in their mininote and continued the metal chassis to the underside it'd be a great machine.


RE: Listen up NVidia
By Pirks on 12/4/2008 5:45:47 PM , Rating: 2
Well, then you should probably notice that masher wasn't talking about your kind of netbook from the very beginning.

He meant a notebook which is netbook-like, i.e. light, small and portable, BUT with a full size keyboard. Nothing besides MBA can provide this for $1800 (or less). So yeah, grow up and get over it. There's nothing to discuss here - masher said everything in his first post. Go read it again.


RE: Listen up NVidia
By JoshuaBuss on 12/4/2008 9:50:12 PM , Rating: 2
uh.. he said "what he wanted in a netbook", not "a laptop he wants that's only netbook-like"

i think it's you who needs to read his post again. the MBA isn't a netbook, no one has ever said it is, because by convention, netbooks are very compact (which the MBA is not), and very inexpensive (which the MBA definitely is not).


RE: Listen up NVidia
By Pirks on 12/4/2008 10:25:30 PM , Rating: 2
He said he wanted netbook with full size keyboard. Such a thing does not exist, but the closest approximation from EXISTING machines is called MacBook Air. Got it?


RE: Listen up NVidia
By pattycake0147 on 12/4/2008 11:51:27 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Full laptop-size keyboard (yeah, I know the case is too small, so use a butterfly or fold-out design).


Note that he stated the case was too small on a net book. He would simply like a company to come out with a foldout keyboard. Just because you think the MBA is the closest thing to what he wants doesn't mean he wants that. It seems quite obvious to me that what he wants isn't on the market. Go ahead and keep your MBA. It might be a great machine, but just because you like something doesn't mean everybody else wants one too. Also other people have already said this he wants a netbook not a notebook and the MBA is definitely a notebook


RE: Listen up NVidia
By Pirks on 12/5/2008 1:56:32 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Go ahead and keep your MBA
Who said I own MBA? :-) I'm going to keep my Alienware M17 around, it's much better for my needs than any Mac or MacBook or anything else from Cupertino. Keep your dreams to yourself, buddy.


RE: Listen up NVidia
By MonkeyPaw on 12/4/2008 5:53:13 PM , Rating: 2

quote:
What I want in a Netbook:

- A high resolution screen!
- 4+ hours of battery life on a worn-in battery
- Reasonable GPU (eg. no i945 chipset, nvidia or ati pls)
- HDMI


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8...

Resolution isn't exactly "high," but it meets your other requirements.


RE: Listen up NVidia
By riku0116 on 12/5/2008 2:56:46 AM , Rating: 2
Try the Vaio Z.

-1600x900 13.1 inch LED-Backlit screen with 400:1 contrast ratio.
-Promises 6 hours on standard battery, so I'm guessing around 7-9 hours with extended.
-Intel integrated graphics + 9300M GS with on-the-fly switching.
-HDMI port

Seems like a perfect match.

Other features in case you're interested:
-Carbon fiber chassis, weighs in at 3.42 pounds (standard battery I'm assuming)
-Up to P9500 for CPU
-Up to 2x 64GB SSD in RAID or HDD
-DDR3
-DVD-RW or Blu-ray RW
-Integrated 3G
-Starting price is $1.6k, definitely not in netbook range, but considering the performance and build quality you're getting in such a small package, it's a no-brainer if you have the money.

The new Macbook Pro (NOT Air) is also a comparable machine if you're into OSX and don't mind a slightly lower res screen and one less touch pad button.


RE: Listen up NVidia
By Cheesew1z69 on 12/5/2008 8:29:12 AM , Rating: 2
Ugh, I would never in my life recommend a Sony, not after what I have seen with them.


RE: Listen up NVidia
By Penti on 12/6/2008 12:27:13 PM , Rating: 2
10-11" High resolution screen.
A64 X2 in some low power variant.
780G
DVI-D out.

That is what I would want at a low price (sub $500).

Problem though is that there is simply no good or cheap ~10" screens. It's not like they can make it materialize out of thin air. OEMs just order stuff from the ODMs which just put thoughether stuff from the suppliers.


RE: Listen up NVidia
By Omega215D on 12/5/2008 2:41:54 AM , Rating: 2
Does the Sony 11" model count despite being at $1600+ USD? It has a high quality build, and a full size keyboard with nice key response but battery life is 3 - 4 hours.

My MacBook is plastic but pretty tough, has a full size keyboard and so far it lasts around 4 -5 hours per charge or 3 with other factors as Wi-Fi strength and screen brightness. Sadly it costs $900 - 1000 and has a poor graphics chip.

Macs don't have the garbage software installed to bring the cost down like HP and co. do. To get a laptop that is small and lightweight without sacrificing certain things and being free of c rapware you pretty much have to pay quite a bit.

I'm no Mac fanboy but I did like the feel of the new MacBook when I played around with it, more so than my brother's 11" Sony and friend's Gateway FX notebook.


RE: Listen up NVidia
By nah on 12/5/2008 7:17:29 AM , Rating: 2
what you really need are one of these---

http://www.tuvie.com/napkin-pc-concept-by-avery-ho...


RE: Listen up NVidia
By HelToupee on 12/5/2008 10:45:38 AM , Rating: 2
The problem is that these aren't your only requirements for a netbook. Just being a netbook requires small dimensions, light weight, and low cost.

High quality build costs money. 6 hours of battery life costs money, performance, and weight. Butterfly or foldout keyboard costs money, adds size, adds weight.

The whole idea behind a netbook is to get something that is cheap, but workable for what you want to do with it. You sound like you are looking for an ultraportable, which differs from a netbook in price. I believe Fujitsu and Sony both make ultraportables that will fit all your requirements, but are going to cost you quite a bit of cash.


RE: Listen up NVidia
By noirsoft on 12/5/2008 8:32:25 PM , Rating: 2
2 is certainly achieveable on current netbooks with 6-cell batteries instead of the usual 3-cells, but don't 1 and 3 end up compromising the inexpensive nature of the netbook market?

For $350, I don't care if the case quality is cheap. I wouldn't buy a $600 netbook even if the case was markedly stringer. I have an older 12" dell notebook (cost $2500 when I bought it) that I always worried about whenever I took it on a plane to visit family, but with my $350 Acer, I don't really care. So long as I back up my data, replacing the hardware, should something horrible happen to it, is not much of a big deal.


RE: Listen up NVidia
By Penti on 12/6/2008 12:15:51 PM , Rating: 2
Why don't you just buy a ultra-portable instead? With a extra large battery.


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