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NVIDIA's GeForce 8800 GT (G92) will feature high-end performance with a smaller thermal envelope and single-slot cooling.  (Source: NVIDIA)

ZOTAC GeForce 8800GT AMP! Edition overclocked to 700 MHz core, 2000 MHz memory and 1700 MHz shader clocks. The ZOTAC GeForce 8800GT AMP! Edition will retail for €249 in Europe and Asia regions  (Source: ZOTAC)

ASUS EN8800GT with Company of Heroes  (Source: ASUS)

GIGABYTE GV-NX88T512H-B with BioWare's Neverwinter Nights  (Source: Gigabyte)

BIOSTAR's GeForce 8800 GT offering, dubbed the V8803GT52   (Source: BIOSTAR)
NVIDIA today launches its newest mainstream part, the GeForce 8800 GT

NVIDIA today is set to launch its newest midrange graphics card part, the GeForce 8800 GT, previously known by its codename G92. NVIDIA guidance states that its newest graphics card will be sold at a retail price in the $199 and $249 price range.

Development around the G92 processor revolved around reducing the thermal and power draw on the GeForce 8800 GTX (G80) processor.  G80 was manufactured on TSMC's 90nm process node while the G92 is manufactured on TSMC's 65nm node.  This shrink allows a single 8800 GT to operate on a 105 Watt draw, almost 80 Watts less than the 8800 GTX during heavy operation.

Top-to-bottom, the GeForce 8800 GT fits snugly between NVIDIA's GeForce 8800 GTS 640 MB, which NVIDIA sets at a retail price of $349, and NVIDIA's GeForce 8600 GTS, which is sold for $149.

The GeForce 8800 GT sports a 100 MHz speed bump over the 8800 GTS, and comes factory clocked at 600 MHz. The 600 MHz clock speed of the 8800 GT is actually 25 MHz higher than the 8800 GTX's default GPU clock, which is set at 575 MHz. The 8800 GT's clock speed also comes within striking distance of the GeForce 8800 Ultra's 612 MHz GPU clock speed.

The NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT features 112 stream processors, 16 fewer than the 128 stream processors found on the ultra high-end 8800 GTX and 16 more than the 96 stream processors found on NVIDIA's 8800 GTS.

The stream processors of the 8800 GT come clocked at 1500 MHz, the same speed as the stream processors of the GeForce 8800 Ultra. Comparatively, the GeForce 8800 GTX comes with its stream processors clocked at 1350 MHz while the 8800 GTS' stream processors are clocked at 1200 MHz.   

The GeForce 8800 GT features up to 1024MB of GDDR3 memory, which is based on a 256-bit memory interface. According to NVIDIA, total memory bandwidth rings in at 57.6 GBps, and the texture fill rate is 33.6 billion/second. Naturally, the two preceding figures are only theoretical values; actual values are bound to be quite different.

The GDDR3 memory of the GeForce 8800 GT comes clocked at 900 MHz -- equal to the memory frequency of the GeForce 8800 GTX. However, the 8800 GT falls short of the 8800 Ultra's memory speed, which is 1080 MHz (2160 MHz effective).

NVIDIA guidance states that the GeForce 8800 GT supports the new PCIe 2.0 bus standard. The PCI-Express Special Interest Group claims that the new bus standard yield improvements in bandwidth.

High-definition video fans will be glad to hear that the GeForce 8800 GT comes integrated with support for NVIDIA's 2nd generation PureVideo HD engine, which allows for H.264 video decoding to be offloaded from the processor and on to the video card.  HDCP support is also present on all reference designs.

NVIDIA guidance promises a hard launch with its GeForce 8800 GT cards, however, so far only Gigabyte, Palit and Zotac have 8800 GT-based offerings.  Newegg independently confirmed with DailyTech that the card will be available online after the 6AM embargo lift.


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What?
By Kurumi on 10/29/2007 2:09:09 AM , Rating: 2
So you mean to tell me that the 8800GT is faster and cheaper than my 8800GTS 640MB? Not that there is anything wrong with that but something tells me that the GT should be slower (and therefore cheaper) than the GTS (as with 7xxx and 8600 GT and GTS).




RE: What?
By JackBeQuick on 10/29/2007 2:10:19 AM , Rating: 5
quote:
So you mean to tell me that the 8800GT is faster and cheaper than my 8800GTS 640MB?

Yep.


RE: What?
By therealnickdanger on 10/29/2007 7:23:34 AM , Rating: 2
The reviews I've seen on Tweaktown and VRzone have shown me a card that continuously beats both the GTS and often even the GTX. It beats the GTX Ultra in a couple synthetics. It also consumes slightly less power than the GTS at load.

Gotta love high-end refreshes. I still think I'll wait for the 8850/8900 before going DX10 though.


RE: What?
By hadifa on 10/29/2007 8:22:32 AM , Rating: 2
There is a catch IMHO. Despite the lower power requirement, and based on tweak town's review, the card runs quite hotter than even 2900XT and is as noisy which makes it obviously much hotter and noisier than 8800gts.

This is a result of its single slot cooling solution. This might not be an issue for many, but many like myself are conscious about noise and heat.

I will wait for some proper/quiet cooling solutions and to see what AMD has to offer in 2 weeks time.

Smells like a promising holiday.

sound and heat:
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/1210/16/page_16_t...


RE: What?
By mWMA on 10/29/2007 12:14:13 PM , Rating: 2
well it seems that the tech report opposite in their review as the sound level is lower than 2900XT. As for the heat I do expect that to go up a little but not much considering the single slot cooler in use.


RE: What?
By hadifa on 10/29/2007 11:06:28 PM , Rating: 2
Tomshardware 'review which they themselves took from someone else finds the 8800 GT to be fairly quiet at the same level of the GTS.

http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/10/29/geforce_880...


RE: What?
By xsilver on 10/29/2007 8:59:26 AM , Rating: 3
quote:
So you mean to tell me that the 8800GT is faster and cheaper than my 8800GTS 640MB?


not only that, its going to be cheaper than a 8800gts 320mb too!

nvidia has been pushing up the price point for the best "value" card but at least this time they exceed expectations unlike the 8600gts when it was released.

(granted, with newer drivers and games, the 8600gts has gained some traction against something from the older generation such as a 7900gt /gtx)


RE: What?
By AOforever1 on 10/29/2007 2:11:27 AM , Rating: 4
I feel sorry for anybody that brought a GTS in the past month. *cough* sorry man lol...


RE: What?
By Hypernova on 10/29/2007 7:56:02 AM , Rating: 1
Indeed, who ever bought a 320MB GTS in the last 2 months just got officially fucked. Not that you don't pay a price for getting what you want right then and there.


RE: What?
By ziggo on 10/29/2007 10:24:34 AM , Rating: 2
That person would be me. Not that I am unhappy about the performance of this card, but I just built the thing 3 weeks ago. I could have easily waited for this. Could have bought two of them for not much more than the GTS320 and put em in SLI without breaking the power supply.

damn.


RE: What?
By mWMA on 10/29/2007 12:18:18 PM , Rating: 2
This is why one should always keep an eye on upcoming developments.
In fact anyone buying the 8800GT right away is also a sucker at this point as we still need to look at the RV670 offering also coming out in week or two.
Nvidia wanting to sell this thing (512MB version) for less than $200 once the market is settled, is making me wonder what the next high end card will perform like.


RE: What?
By TontoGo on 10/30/2007 8:07:08 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, I wonder what's just down the road too. I hope ATI actually knocks out a kick ass product this time. 2900 was lukewarm, so to speak. I can't get really excited about a card if I get double the performance in the latest games compared to my current card, but double means getting ~30 frames per second.


RE: What?
By 3kliksphilip on 11/7/2007 10:13:15 AM , Rating: 2
In England the Geforce 8800 prices have been static all year. I bought an 8800 GTS right at the beginning of the year and am happy with it. I don't quite know why people who have just bought would be really 'officially f**ked' or what ever. It's not exactly a massive performance boost. Slightly faster, slightly cheaper, slightly cooler... I'd be more put out if I bought a high end card just before the next gen cards came out. Nothing destroys my Geforce 8800 GTS at 1680 x 1050, apart from Crysis. Though that is on DirectX 10 with everyhing on full, and it will require more than just a mere update to the Geforce 8800 series to run it significantly better. In the end the Geforce 8800 GTS and GT will become redundant at around the same time as each other any way. So many people have bought Geforce 8's (Or equivilent) that it's good in a way that the next gen cards aren't being released soon. Plus it gives AMD a chance to release something good.


RE: What?
By thejez on 10/29/2007 9:59:27 AM , Rating: 2
I *almost* pulled the trigger on a GTS 640 3 days ago... OMG I am sooooo glad I decided to wait... im now gonna get a faster card AND save $$.... wow..


RE: What?
By jefmes on 10/29/2007 2:16:56 AM , Rating: 2
Wow...that sounds right if everything in that article is correct. That's just about what I've been waiting for before I went DX10, and I like the much lower power draw.


RE: What?
By SirLucius on 10/29/2007 2:21:46 AM , Rating: 2
Agreed, the price is right and the performance is better than what I expected from the price point. I may have to pick one of these up when the next paycheck comes in.


RE: What?
By JackBeQuick on 10/29/2007 2:25:47 AM , Rating: 2
I think the performance is going to be about the same, but its way way less on the power draw. This is exactly what the industry needed.


RE: What?
By tacoburrito on 10/29/2007 2:30:44 AM , Rating: 2
There has got to be some serious typos in the article. If the article is correct, the GT is only a few notches below the GTX but miles better and faster than the GTS.

Is nVidia still producing the GTS and GTX? Because there seem to be little reason to pay for either of those if GT does what the article says.


RE: What?
By KristopherKubicki (blog) on 10/29/2007 2:34:21 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
There has got to be some serious typos in the article. If the article is correct, the GT is only a few notches below the GTX but miles better and faster than the GTS.

Although the GT has more stream processors and a higher core clock, the GTS has a wider memory bus (320 bit vs 256 bit) and a higher memory clock.

While I'm sure theres situations where one card is better than the other, I suspect these two will be pretty close as far as overall performance.


RE: What?
By defter on 10/29/2007 3:32:26 AM , Rating: 2
GTS has a lower memory clock, not higher. Thus the difference in bandwidth is quite small.


RE: What?
By murphyslabrat on 10/29/2007 12:30:08 PM , Rating: 2
But, with the larger bus, overclocking would have more of an effect on bandwidth. I have no idea how much of an effect the extra bandwidth would have on performance, but nevertheless...I am not a VGA overclocker, but it appears as though there would be more performance headroom on the GTS vs the GT, but whether or not the additional $100-$150 is worth it...again, I don't really care ^^j

In any case, the larger BUS width, and the larger memory will probably earn it a place in the hands of the criminally uninformed.

But that GT looks soooooo cheap...


RE: What?
By superbooga on 10/29/2007 2:32:17 AM , Rating: 4
Actually the 7600GT was faster than the 7600GTS


RE: What?
By floffe on 10/29/2007 5:38:24 AM , Rating: 1
That's not hard since there was no 7600GTS, only a GS


RE: What?
By murphyslabrat on 10/29/2007 12:47:54 PM , Rating: 2
No, the 7600GTS was a harbinger of factory overclocked video cards. While not officially sanctioned, someone (BFGtech? I don't remember who the first one was) took a 7600GS and overclocked it, then warrantied the product. The idea was for an intermediate between the 7600GT and 7600GS, but in reality was never cheaper or faster than the low-cost 7600GT's.

So, while there was never an official or practical 7600GTS, they were sold. And, regardless of the effectiveness, you can now get an FOC'ed card as a direct result of the 7600GTS.


RE: What?
By sj420 on 10/29/2007 11:57:33 PM , Rating: 2
None of that information is right.

There are 7600 GTS's, I own two of them.

They are not simply overclocked warrentied cards - at least not the eVga versions.

They literally mixed components from both the GS and GT and called it the GTS. I own two eVga (that are really old, if you couldn't tell) 7600 GTS's that were for sli. Maybe some other company just overclocked it and slapped a warrenty on it but not with eVga.

"The card is a bit of an enigma, as it registers as a 7600GS in the drivers, but its performance was shown to be most akin to that of a 7600GT."
...
"After consultation with EVGA, they say the 7600GTS is a cross between the 7600GS and a 7600GT (GDDR3 memory)."

Source- http://www.nforcershq.com/article6919.html


RE: What?
By bryophytesd on 10/29/2007 4:58:06 AM , Rating: 2
Do you think an 8800gt would be better than two 512MB 7950gt in SLI? Still running XP so DX10 isnt a factor.


RE: What?
By DigitalFreak on 10/29/2007 8:10:13 AM , Rating: 2
I would say yes. My single 8800GTX is faster than my old 7900GTX SLI setup.


RE: What?
By murphyslabrat on 10/29/2007 12:53:27 PM , Rating: 2
The only problem is that you then cannot get a second 8800GT for better sli settup, and with 2x7950 GT's you have over twice the power requirement.


RE: What?
By luigionlsd on 10/29/2007 8:06:54 AM , Rating: 2
I think the only thing confusing people this time is the numbering system. Many times when nVidia (or ATI for that matter) does something like this, the number is one higher. Take the 7-series for example - 7800 GT and GTX to start, and then nVidia released the 7900 GT which outperformed the GTX, at a price competitive to the 7800 GT. The only thing confusing this time is that it's 8800 GT and not 8900 GT/GTS.


RE: What?
By lompocus on 10/29/2007 10:36:03 PM , Rating: 1
actually its better faster and cheaper than a GTX.

I can't wait to SLI 2 of these...nay, THREE of these, considering I have an early 590sli board with 3 slots for that!

more powerful that a GTX, around 1.7x as powerful, for the price of 1!


RE: What?
By walk2k on 11/1/2007 6:42:53 PM , Rating: 2
Installed one yesterday.

My setup
AMD X2 4400+ (dual cores @ 2.2Ghz), Asus A8N-E, 2GB ram.
GF 7800GT = 4000 3dmark06
GF 8800GT = 8500 3dmark06!

Seems quiter than the 7800GT, or about the same. Definitely not louder.

Yes it's faster than the GTS, and at normal 19" panel resolution (1280x1024) it's equal in most cases to the GTX/Ultra. Only with the humongous widescreen monitors would you want the 640/768MB versions really.


8800 GT
By PaladinPup on 10/29/2007 5:20:28 AM , Rating: 2
How do you call this a mid-range card, when it tops out every other card on the market save one...the 8800 ultra?

Better than both GTS, comparable to the GTX and almost a 3rd of the price? I am dreaming...must be.

PP




RE: 8800 GT
By Samus on 10/29/2007 5:42:47 AM , Rating: 1
You guys might not realize what the memory bus impact will have on the GT. I'm guessing the shrunk bus reduced the transistor count by millions, helping them achieve the 65nm power requirements they had intended.

In case you're not thinking economically, nVidia needed to make this card to get OEM vendor support, where ATi is stomping them right now. Exactly how many OEM system PSU's do you know of that can drive even the 8800GTS 320. Yea, thought so.

The goal isn't performance, its a 8800-line card that draws 100-watts instead of 200-watts.

It's performance is lower than any other 8800-based card. I don't need the benchmarks to prove it, because I already know. Why would nVidia out-compete themselves?

Hmmm. Then again, Intel made the E4300 /sarcasm.


RE: 8800 GT
By Diocles on 10/29/2007 6:33:31 AM , Rating: 2
You really don't need the benchmarks because they would prove you wrong.

Let's see what games might show us, which card is better.

UT3
http://www.hoc.hu/upload/news/14733_02.jpg

Crysis
http://images.tweaktown.com/imagebank/crysisspd_g_...

In both games 8800GT clearly outperforms GTS and hardly lags behind the GTX. And they are surely the games that will determine future performance in games.

I'm so glad since this card looks to be a bargain.


RE: 8800 GT
By BitJunkie on 10/29/07, Rating: 0
RE: 8800 GT
By Spyvie on 10/29/2007 10:47:06 AM , Rating: 2
Somebody please do bench comparisons at 1440 x 900, 1680 x 1050, and 1920 x 1200, both DX10 and DX9 please...

I'm running a 5 month old GTS 320 clocked @ 648/15xx/999, and gaming at the native res of my 22" LCD. Crysis demo is running pretty smooth set to medium, but I want all the eye candy I can get.

If I spring for a GTX I'll need to upgrade my power suppy.

So I have to wonder if this new GT will out preform my GTS at 1680x1050, will this do anything to the price of the GTX, and what's my my GTS 320 worth on eBay...


RE: 8800 GT
By seppoK on 10/29/2007 1:06:43 PM , Rating: 2
Fudzilla has all kind of resolutions in their review. Also about temps and overclocking.

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_conte...


RE: 8800 GT
By rogard on 10/29/2007 6:49:38 AM , Rating: 3
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/1210/msi_geforce_...

http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/1211/crysis_demo...

Although you "don't need the benchmarks", you might be surprised by them nonetheless. The GT seems to be an awesome performer, the 512MB version definitely way faster than the GTS 320MB, and even faster than the GTS 640MB in most cases. And I cannot see an impact of the reduced memory bandwidth
either...
In fact, it is so fast that it totally ruins nvidia's naming and pricing scheme. It's the first time a GT is faster than a GTS, or even equal to a GTX sometimes! Cheaper than the whole lot, too.
I like it a lot, but they almost wiped out their old 8800 line at once. There is no point in buying a GTS, GTX or Ultra any more, when all you get are some 10-20% more speed for twice the money.


RE: 8800 GT
By rogard on 10/29/2007 6:54:31 AM , Rating: 3
Damn....double posting.
That happens when you take too long writing a comment...

Even at high res the GT is damn close to the Ultra.
And it even consumes less power and nobody tried to overclock it yet...

I still don't get nvidia. There is not even stiff competition out there from AMD right now, they only compete to their own high end. Who in their right minds will buy a GTX any longer?


RE: 8800 GT
By murphyslabrat on 10/29/2007 12:41:13 PM , Rating: 2
As was suggested already, this is possibly the harbinger of a mind-blowingly high-end 65nm part.

Alternatively, the idea could be to invalidate the entire high-end offerings of AMD. Therefore, not only increasing their product penetration, but also destroying their prime competitor's validity.

So, whether this is a method of ramping production or just a dastardly trick to hurt AMD (Intel's simultaneous release of their initial 45nm offerings was undoubtedly along these lines ^^j), the bottom line is that I can get an awesome card for as little as $150 more than I was planning to spend on an HD2600XT (costs $100 and includes the Black Box, for which I would have to purchase the Orange Box to replace).

Hurray for NVidia, now bringing out a No-Duh solution!


RE: 8800 GT
By Spyvie on 10/29/2007 10:53:09 AM , Rating: 2
I haven't been able to get a Tweaktown page to load at all recently. (Comcast Denver)


RE: 8800 GT
By NARC4457 on 10/29/2007 12:38:41 PM , Rating: 2
Same here...


benchmarks
By tacoburrito on 10/29/2007 2:36:26 AM , Rating: 2
I'm hoping when I wake up in a few hours, some tech site will have the numbers of the GT. Right now, I can't believe what I am reading and I thank God that I haven't throw down $300 to get a GTS because I'm dying to play Bioshock.

Off topic, does anyone know where I can get a free demo/trial for Bioshock? Or is there one out there?




RE: benchmarks
By toyota on 10/29/2007 2:58:25 AM , Rating: 4
are you unfamiliar with how the internet works? this is just a wild guess but you could probably find the demo by typing Bioshock demo in one of them there fancy search engines like Google.


RE: benchmarks
By rogard on 10/29/2007 6:59:30 AM , Rating: 2
google "bioshock demo" = 318.000 hits :-)
google bioshock demo = 2.500.000 hits :D

I found something! I found something!


RE: benchmarks
By ninjit on 10/29/2007 4:47:45 AM , Rating: 2
Steam has had a demo since 10/23.


RE: benchmarks
By toyota on 10/29/2007 7:24:54 AM , Rating: 1
now he will ask... what is Steam?


RE: benchmarks
By toyota on 10/29/2007 8:28:22 AM , Rating: 1
no its actually been there since 8/20 which was the day before the games's release


RE: benchmarks
By Etsp on 10/29/2007 7:37:56 AM , Rating: 3
Running on a 7800GTX bioshock runs quite well with most setting up all the way. There is a noticable loss in framerates at 1600x1200 so i can't play at that level... but, all in all it seems to run it just fine. However, that is only DX9 performance, so I can't really tell you what the DX10 performance is going to be like in comparison with those cards...


1 + 1 = 4
By cheetah2k on 10/29/2007 4:59:45 AM , Rating: 3
quote:
The NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT features 112 stream processors, 6 less than the 128 stream processors found on the ultra high-end 8800 GTX and 16 more than the 96 stream processors found on NVIDIA's 8800 GTS.


Um..... hang on.. 128 stream processors less 6 = 122? not 112..

Er.... Did anyone have a BSOD working that one out?




RE: 1 + 1 = 4
By PepperIsBetter on 10/29/2007 12:36:14 PM , Rating: 2
Typo: it's supposed to be 16 less


RE: 1 + 1 = 4
By mWMA on 10/29/2007 12:44:00 PM , Rating: 2
Considering if nvidia is disabling 16 ROP to get better yields there might be a possibility like in the old days of enabling these through hack unless they have literally done hardware cuts to kill them.


EVGA Superclocked Version on Newegg.com
By chrish89 on 10/29/2007 2:27:57 PM , Rating: 2
RE: EVGA Superclocked Version on Newegg.com
By BillyBatson on 10/29/2007 2:56:27 PM , Rating: 2
and the prices start going up.
I want an evga version but don't want to pay more than $230


By BillyBatson on 10/29/2007 3:00:39 PM , Rating: 2
PCI-E 2.0
By Dabruuzer on 10/29/2007 2:50:02 PM , Rating: 2
I have read the linked article about the PCI-E 2.0 specs. However, I have 2 questions that I am hoping one of you more tech-savvy people can answer for me:

1. Since I am building my new rig in December (and the 8800GT seems like a no-brainer for my budget), is it worth looking for a motherboard that uses the new PCI-E 2.0 spec? Does it offer any advantage at all?

2. Are there any mobos that are using PCI-E 2.0? I looked around on newegg.com for a bit, and haven't found any. It isn't a parameter that I can search with. Or are there none out yet?

Thanks in advance for any advice/comments.




RE: PCI-E 2.0
By chrish89 on 10/29/2007 2:55:14 PM , Rating: 2
According to this article there will be little difference in performance.

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3140...


RE: PCI-E 2.0
By Dabruuzer on 10/29/2007 3:00:36 PM , Rating: 2
Ah, okay thanks! I see the X38 is the only chipset around right now (and scarcely at that) that supports PCI-E 2.0. And from that article, it seems we have a while to go until we overwhelm 1.1, let alone 2.0.


Typos...
By TechLuster on 10/29/2007 2:54:25 AM , Rating: 3
"15 MHz higher" should be "25 MHz higher," and "6 less than" should read "16 fewer than."




RE: Typos...
By lplatypus on 10/29/2007 5:39:53 AM , Rating: 2
... and it's the GeForce 8800 GT which comes integrated with support for NVIDIA's 2nd generation PureVideo HD engine, not the GTS


When is launch?
By FITCamaro on 10/29/2007 9:29:07 AM , Rating: 2
When will these be available? Don't see them on newegg yet.




RE: When is launch?
By pattycake0147 on 10/29/2007 6:44:12 PM , Rating: 2
There up now, but they're in the $250-$300 range rather than $200-$250 like the article said.


That was close...
By hadron on 10/29/2007 10:51:26 AM , Rating: 2
Man, I was just contacting the store today for the XFX 8800GTS, and then I came home I saw this. Was planing to go buy it tommorow, phew, too close...

The only issue I have with this new card is the apparent noise level that they will operate at, as I would very much prefer a quiter one. I expect that someone, probably Gigabyte will put out a passive-ish GT. I wouldn't mind if they even take two slots for that manner. Hope I won't need to wait long to see.




RE: That was close...
By seppoK on 10/29/2007 1:16:38 PM , Rating: 2
Sparkle has passive 8800GT. No idea when it will be in stores though.

http://www.sparkle.com.tw/News/SP8800GTpassive/new...


No listing of card on negg / zpp
By totallycool on 10/29/2007 12:09:07 PM , Rating: 2
I cant find the card listed on newegg , zipzoomfly or any of the other retailers. Can anyone verify if its actually available anywhere.

Also
quote:
however, so far only Gigabyte, Palit and Zotac
EVGA is showing off four versions of the card from stock 600/1800 to overclocked 700/2000




RE: No listing of card on negg / zpp
By mWMA on 10/29/2007 12:28:21 PM , Rating: 2
Yes only very few online stores have them at the moment. You should find more listing in a just a few days if not by the end of the day.
I rather recommend waiting another week to get the price settled a bit as there will be ample stock by then.


Practical SLi At Last?
By Jasio on 10/29/2007 2:26:49 PM , Rating: 2
Strictly looking at price point at the moment, and only at the nVidia Line-Up:

- DailyTech claims: $200-$250 Price Range for an 8800GT.
- Average Price of an 8800GTX is $500 (give or take, pricing from NewEgg).
- Average Price of an 8800GTS 640MB is $360 (NewEgg).

If you have an SLi enabled motherboard, you could pickup two 8800 GT's for around $500. This would give you 1024MB of memory versus the GTX's 768MB. Now the GTX does have faster clocked memory, true, but if you purchase a PCI-e 2.0 board would you not be getting a bandwidth advantage to help offset this difference in memory clock speed?

The article claims that a 1024MB version of the GT may also appear which lends even more support to a "practical" SLi setup. When I mean practical, I mean price point. I would rather pickup two GT's for $500 than two GTX's or 640MB GTS's which would break the $1000 mark. In my opinion $500 is a fairly acceptable sum for an SLi setup and I am really hoping to do just that when these cards become more readily available, the ZOTAC 8800 GT really looks like a beast and the benchmarks that users have posted speak for themselves: It's not the most powerful card out there, it's not meant to be, but it will definitely give you an awesome gaming experience without breaking the bank. I am very curious to see the kind of pressure this card will put on ATI and the OEM market.




RE: Practical SLi At Last?
By rogard on 10/29/2007 5:55:19 PM , Rating: 2
With SLI you cannot simply add the amount of RAM, it's still 512MB on each card that counts. Therefore at ultra-high resolutions you will probably run out of memory sooner than with a GTS 640 or a GTX (both solo or SLI).

I am not so sure about 1024MB versions of the GT. It would not make sense to do that with a "bargain" card, unless soon the older models GTS, GTX and Ultra become completely obsolete. Even then it would be smarter to slap 1 Gig on the top model, but right now there does not seem to be the need for that (look at the AMD 1GB: virtually no difference)

From the looks of the benchmarks the 512MB are not holding the GT back, but you can see that 256bit instead of 320 bit interface takes its toll, albeit not too badly. 1 Gig GTs would be like those 6600GS or 7600GS with 512MB - superfluous or even idiotic because the RAM is probably cheaper and slower.


Hmmm
By sj420 on 10/29/2007 6:38:31 PM , Rating: 2
Does anyone think this has anything remotely to do with the mobile Gt series? It is slimer and they are so hush hush about drivers and support for the laptops mobile series. I have a custom built with the only thing I could get 8600m GT and the first sad thing I came upon after actually getting into the crysis beta was that I could not even play due to texture corruption (invisible, white/yellow shapes/artifacts).

Nvidia will not release drivers for the series and tells you to go to some website (from reading the forums at the suggested website I wouldn't waste my time with those drivers), has a small description page about it, but other than that nothing. They have the 8600m GT and 8700m GT so maybe this is some kind of desktop variant still using the slimmer design or chip.

Anyway, I am also building a desktop soon and I need the best I can get. This is the first time I have been in the hardware race and it is an odd feeling. New hardware coming out all the time and not knowing when or if something "good enough" will come out, or when the next best thing comes.

The wait is the most painful.




RE: Hmmm
By sj420 on 10/29/2007 7:05:04 PM , Rating: 2
Sorry about the double post.

I purchased an eVga in july for $279.99 from newegg. I just used the step-up program (With One day left mind you) to steup to to the $259.99 8800 GT. This is an amazing step-up and with next day air shipping I only pay 15.90 ($35 shipping). This is a GREAT deal. I can't wait to slip this into my desktop when I make it in the near future.

We will really see what it is like. What an amazing step-up.


Inno3D announce 8800GT week ago
By Copystars on 11/4/2007 3:43:02 AM , Rating: 2
Inno3D- one of the nvidia board partner located at Hong Kong announce Geforce 8800gt week ago. Please check http://www.inno3d.com




By Copystars on 11/4/2007 3:45:35 AM , Rating: 2
SO it will available in Inno3D USA distributor http://www.copystars.com very soon.


Purevideo HD 2 on GTS?
By AggressorPrime on 10/29/2007 8:13:45 AM , Rating: 3
quote:
High-definition video fans will be glad to hear that the GeForce 8800 GTS comes integrated with support for NVIDIA's 2nd generation PureVideo HD engine, which allows for H.264 video decoding to be offloaded from the processor and on to the video card. HDCP support is also present on all reference designs.


Pretty sure that should be GT and not GTS.




I wasn't expecting this
By just4U on 10/30/2007 12:20:19 PM , Rating: 3
Being one of the so called "informed" I was still taken by surprise with this card. I've built two systems this past month using the 8800GTS (which is fine) but seeing the reviews .. wow.

I expected the GT to come very close to the 320Meg card but not beat up on the 640 one ah well. From what the reviews have said it's not any louder then your average gts card and temps are similiar... (for those that keep asking)

It looks like it will be a bit before these hit that magic price point Nvidia is striving for... ($200... or 195 in canada <grin>) so I am thinking it's going to be a great christmas buy for many. Nvidia did much better with this card since the ultra was really disapointing.




third party player support?
By MGSsancho on 10/29/2007 5:15:54 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
High-definition video fans will be glad to hear that the GeForce 8800 GTS comes integrated with support for NVIDIA's 2nd generation PureVideo HD engine, which allows for H.264 video decoding to be offloaded from the processor and on to the video card. HDCP support is also present on all reference designs.
It would be awesome if the acceleration could be used by windows media player. i would ask for fddshow and what not, but im making a little more realistic request.

<rant>
having it work with fddshow would require nvidia opening some of the stuff for the purevideo. i know lots of it is open to like video game companies in the form of licenses and what not. but still i would like to use 1 player to play all my video. instead of having powerDVD for HD vids, then mpc or vlc for everything else. Also i want to minimize bloat ware on my system. i dont want to have powerDVD just for 1 task. its slow to start ad has a lame GUI.
</rant>




noise
By adam92682 on 10/29/2007 12:04:44 PM , Rating: 2
Is the new fan design loud?




BFG 8800GT
By Dabruuzer on 10/29/2007 12:22:23 PM , Rating: 2
BFG has info up on their 8800GT offering:

http://www.bfgtech.com/bfgr88512gtoce.aspx




8800GT
By spritle on 10/29/2007 1:17:47 PM , Rating: 2
GeForce 8800 GT
By DDG on 10/30/2007 8:39:30 AM , Rating: 2
NVIDIA is planning on releasing an updated version of the 8800 GTS with 112 stream processors. This updated version will probably outperform the 8800 GT though not by a large margin. The 320MB card will be discontinued since the 8800 GT is faster and cheaper.

I ordered a card from Newegg yesterday and checked back this morning to find it sold out and the page taken down. I don't know what that's about but this GPU is definitely gonna be "The One" to have this holiday season.




I got suckered
By Nik00117 on 10/31/2007 5:29:58 AM , Rating: 2
I guess I jumped on the bandwagon a bit too soon. I paid about 380 USD for my 8800GTS 640, granted at the time it was one of the best cards at the time. I just hope stock last of the 8800GTS 640s, and they fall in price so I go SLI for cheap. Not going to get ride of a perfectly video card to upgrade to a granted cheaper and faster verison. Just going wait for the price of the 8800GTS 640 to fall.




8800GT beats HD2900XT
By maroon1 on 10/31/2007 6:54:55 AM , Rating: 2
Surprised
By SavagePotato on 10/31/2007 9:57:09 AM , Rating: 2
This seems like such an unprecidented and non-nvidia move to me. To bring out a card that performs like a gtx for such a low price.

It's realy great to see hardware that powerful for that price. That is exactly the kind of thing the PC needs as a gaming platform. The ability for joe blow to go out and spend $250 dollars and make the family PC viable for gaming. Hope it is a trend that continues, rather than the previous "nvidia wants a $1000 price point video card" way of things.

Maybe the 8800 ultra taught them a lesson?




NeverWinter Nights 2
By Schadenfroh on 10/31/2007 4:29:47 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
GIGABYTE GV-NX88T512H-B with BioWare's Neverwinter Nights


Obsidian Entertainment made NeverWinter Nights 2 (what is on the box).




8800 GT performance
By javapookers on 11/1/2007 1:49:02 PM , Rating: 2
Having noticed that as ausual there are several manufactures of the same card (ie BFG, Asus etc) and me not being a super techy here, are there any differing performance and quality issues between the brand names?

Also I noticed on the Amazon site, there are two versions of the card for sale. One $10.00 higher than the other. The more expensive version ( I think $280 opposes to $270)is called the KO Version. Anyone tell me the difference between the two?




Wownessss! So much potential!
By gochichi on 11/1/2007 11:52:06 PM , Rating: 1
I was so ready to drop $200 to $250.00 on one of these but the market is messing things up. I hope they don't mess around and strive to reach the target price.

I have an 8600GT that I paid $99 for... and I have to say, the bad reviews had an awesome effect on that product. B/c yeah, at $200.00 it sucked, but it immediately plummeted... after horrible reviews.

Now the exact opposite is happening here, and it really does kind of hurl chunks... again, if it goes away in a couple of weeks, that's fine, but I'm not paying $300.00... I've been waiting too long for it.

The potential for this card is unbelievable. IF Apple decides to build a small tower that takes this card they could actually deliver on their gaming promises. And because it's relatively cool running for this much speed. It's a thought... it's an amazing opportunity for them, and if they don't take it... WOW.

Of course PCs with this are gonna be great, but for Apple, it could be something that really changes the outcome of their current surge. Is the surge going to be permanent? Or are they just kidding around?

My Mac laptop runs Quake 4 like a beast... I was SO surprised... I wasn't expecting that at all. They could be on to something huge, b/c whether you buy a new Vista PC or a new Apple PC you're going to be excited about the upgrade.

People tend to compare their new PC to their old PC, and if their new PC is a Mac, and it's awesome and has technology like this... and their old PC is well... old... they're going to think Apple = Good for a very long time.

I know that's beside the point.




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