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The EVGA e-GeForce 8800 GTX

The MSI NX8800GTX

The ASUS EN8800GTX

The XFX GeForce 8800GTX
DirectX 10 on a PCI Express card

NVIDIA is set to announce its G80 GeForce 8800 series graphics processors today. The new G80 GeForce 8800 series graphics processors introduce new features such as unified shaders, NVIDIA’s GigaThread technology, Quantum Effects physics processing, 128-bit floating point HDR lighting, 16x anti-aliasing and full support for Microsoft’s upcoming DirectX 10 with shader model 4.0 support.

This time around two models will initially be available—the GeForce 8800 GTX and 8800 GTS. The GeForce 8800 GTX is NVIDIA’s flagship 8800-series graphics processor for this generation. It will have 128 unified shaders that NVIDIA refers to as stream processors. The 128 stream processors will be clocked at 1350 MHz while the rest of the GPU has a 575 MHz GPU clock. Backing the 128 stream processors is 768MB of GDDR3 memory clocked at 900 MHz for an effective 1.8 GHz on a 384-bit memory bus. All GeForce 8800 GTX-based graphics cards will be equipped with a dual-slot cooler. GeForce 8800 GTX cards will be quite long too, with a 10.5” PCB length.

Slotted below the GeForce 8800 GTX is the GeForce 8800 GTS. The GeForce 8800 GTS is slightly cut down and only features 96 stream processors clocked at 1200 MHz. Video memory is also decreased to 640MB as well. Nevertheless, the memory is clocked at 800 MHz for an effective 1.6 GHz on a 320-bit interface. GeForce 8800 GTS based graphics cards will also have a lower 500 MHz core clock as well. While GeForce 8800 GTS based cards will feature a similar dual-slot cooler as the GeForce 8800 GTX, the PCB length is shortened to 9 inches.

EVGA today will release its GeForce 8800 GTX and 8800 GTS based graphics cards as well. As with most NVIDIA graphics card releases, the EVGA e-GeForce 8800 GTX and e-GeForce 8800 GTS match NVIDIA’s reference specifications. Nevertheless, the EVGA e-GeForce 8800 GTX and e-GeForce 8800 GTS feature dual dual-link DVI outputs and TV output capabilities. The TV output capabilities include component, S-Video and composite video outputs.

XFX announced its GeForce 8800 GTX and 8800 GTS based products this morning as well. The XFX GeForce 8800 GTX and 8800 GTS are based on NVIDIA reference designs and have the same memory and clock configurations as other GeForce 8800 GTX and 8800 GTS based cards. Nevertheless, XFX touts a double lifetime warranty which allows the lifetime warranty to be transferred to a second owner.

ASUS announced one GeForce 8800 GTX and another GeForce 8800 GTS card earlier this morning.  Both cards will be bundled with Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter.  ASUS is also one of the few manufacturers that openly claims HDCP support, even though the compliance is present on all 8800-series cards launching today.

MSI will also be releasing GeForce 8800 GTX and GeForce 8800 GTS based products. The MSI NX8800GTX and NX8800GTS follow NVIDIA specifications like EVGA. Nevertheless, the cards support dual dual-link DVI and HDTV outputs. MSI NX8800GTX and NX8800GTS graphics cards feature Dual CoreCell technology and include MSI specific utilities. These utilities include MSI StarOSD for tweaking and MSI Advanced Live Update Online for automated BIOS updating.

The GeForce 8800 GTX and GeForce 8800 GTS will be hard launched with immediate availability, despite minor setbacks with defective graphics cards. NVIDIA suggested pricing for the GeForce 8800 GTX and GeForce 8800 GTS is $599 and $499 respectively.

DailyTech previously explored performance of the GeForce 8800 GTX.


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How about connection?
By clayclws on 11/8/2006 6:28:19 AM , Rating: 2
Ok, so the HDTV support is through DVI (or in some cases, dual DVI) with a built-in HDCP. S-Video for...??? I don't think a lot of people use that anyway...but I could be very wrong. So, where's HDMI? I know it is not required since DVI is good enough, and dual DVI is even better...but in case people want to plug them to their existing HDTV that has no built-in support for DVI? Media Centre comes into mind...

Anyway, NVIDIA is on the right track. Just wondering when would they support GDDR4.




RE: How about connection?
By clayclws on 11/8/2006 6:29:45 AM , Rating: 3
Oh...and AGP versions. GeForce 8600GTS maybe?


RE: How about connection?
By Kougar on 11/8/2006 9:35:29 AM , Rating: 5
If G80 is CPU limited with a X6800 then it is safe to say 90%+ of the CPUs that can be bought for AGP systems today would be very badly bottlenecking the card. It's time to let AGP join the ISA slot.


RE: How about connection?
By GoatMonkey on 11/8/2006 10:19:24 AM , Rating: 2
I'm still betting that they make a stripped down version, probably running at much lower speed for AGP. It probably won't be available for a while though, maybe next summer or fall, if they do it at all. The next derivative will probably be a lower end version of the G80 to give DX10 compatibility to some more recent computers with PCI express first.


RE: How about connection?
By tacoburrito on 11/8/2006 3:26:25 PM , Rating: 3
Even if an AGP version is released, it wouldn't make much sense to buy one. If you are lacking a PCIe slot, chances are you are running the ancient P4 chip.

Methinks it makes more sense to save the $200 or so on the AGP card and just pony up $1000 for a brand new C2D system with PCIe. Also, by the time the AGP version is released, C2D systems should fall well below $1000.


RE: How about connection?
By JeffDM on 11/9/2006 10:57:50 AM , Rating: 2
Quite a lot of Athlon 64 boards offered AGP. I think AGP boards for Athlon 64 were available for about a year.


RE: How about connection?
By theapparition on 11/8/2006 7:33:12 AM , Rating: 4
There are DVI to HDMI cables/adapters.
It would be nice if one was included in the bundle, though.


RE: How about connection?
By ATWindsor on 11/8/2006 7:33:40 AM , Rating: 2
Aren't adapters from DVI to hdmi pretty easy to get by? (and cheap)

AtW


RE: How about connection?
By Spivonious on 11/8/2006 12:34:07 PM , Rating: 2
HDMI is DVI with audio. No audio comes out of your video card hence no HDMI ports.

And for the 85% of the population that doesn't have an HDTV, the s-video connector is nice when I want to connect to the TV.


RE: How about connection?
By dagamer34 on 11/8/2006 1:11:34 PM , Rating: 3
Some HMDI video cards have audio jacks that you plug in from your external sound card.


Error with pricing?
By Chillin1248 on 11/8/2006 5:08:11 AM , Rating: 4
quote:
NVIDIA suggested pricing for the GeForce 8800 GTX and GeForce 8800 GTS is $549 and $499 respectively.


Are you sure it is $549 for the GTX version and not $649? Because all reports up till now have shown a $649 price tag as well as all the pre-order sites.

And if it is correct, then why would someone not spend "only" $50 more to get a much faster (at least spec wise) card when you are already spending $499?

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Chillin




RE: Error with pricing?
By Chillin1248 on 11/8/2006 2:37:49 PM , Rating: 3
I see Dailytech has edited the original list price for the 8800 GTX from $549 to $599, so my previous comment stands void. Good job Dailytech and keep it coming.

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Chillin


RE: Error with pricing?
By Chillin1248 on 11/8/2006 2:46:32 PM , Rating: 3
Anh Huynh, are you sure your pricing on the 8800 GTS is correct? I have seen several other websites who state the MSRP for the 8800 GTS is $449, not $499. Also MSRP for the 8800 GTX stands at $599.

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Chillin


RE: Error with pricing?
By Chillin1248 on 11/8/2006 7:43:54 PM , Rating: 3
Just finished reading the Guru3D and Anandtech reviews, both stated that the 8800 GTS MSRP is $449 , not $499 like you have it listed Anh Huynh. I believe you have a minor error to correct then, otherwise good work.

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Chillin


Hello? AMD/ATI?
By Cygus on 11/8/2006 7:12:31 AM , Rating: 2
whats bugs me is that i have not seen so much as a peep from amd/ati in response to this beast of a card... is it going to be the same scenario as it was with the x1800 series? an underperforming answer months later? I'd hate to see that happen again..




RE: Hello? AMD/ATI?
By Warren21 on 11/8/2006 7:27:13 AM , Rating: 2
ATI will be slashing the prices on its X1k high end cards to compete until they release R600 in January. Until then, Nvidia won't have any competition -- so yes it is another 7800/X1800 scenario.


RE: Hello? AMD/ATI?
By BladeVenom on 11/8/2006 7:46:40 AM , Rating: 2
Not quite the same. The rumors are that the ATI card should out perform the G80.


RE: Hello? AMD/ATI?
By sviola on 11/8/2006 8:14:20 AM , Rating: 2
Yeah, but rumors also said that the G80 wouldn't be a unified shader architecture. So, we better wait and see what they can deliver.


RE: Hello? AMD/ATI?
By RussianSensation on 11/8/2006 11:17:42 AM , Rating: 2
altough X1800XT was late to market, it significantly outperformed 7800GT and was from 10-20% faster than 7800GTX in most shader intensive games.

Still releasing R600 in February is way too late imo considering that it's the holiday season and when gamers are most likely to upgrade because they feel more generous to spoil themselves.


RE: Hello? AMD/ATI?
By Alpha4 on 11/8/2006 8:31:52 PM , Rating: 2
Heh. I see you have your fingers firmly planted on the pulse of gamers.

I personally suspsect that the kind of gamer who is in the market for an enthusiast graphics card would be more inclined to generously shower others with gifts. If anything, february idealy gives that gamer just enough time to count their pennies for a real toy.


so x1900xt no good?
By poohbear on 11/8/2006 6:54:41 AM , Rating: 2
would purchasing a x1900xt be a really bad idea now? they play through everything available like butter even at higher resolutions.




RE: so x1900xt no good?
By parkerlewis on 11/8/2006 9:27:17 AM , Rating: 2
I picked up a 256MB x1900xt a few weeks ago and I'm very pleased with it, great performance in all current-gen games for about $220. I don't see myself ever paying more than $300 for a video card and I figured the x1900xt would be good enough to tide me over until the DX10 cards start hitting that sub-$300 price point. The early benchmarks on this 8800 series are pretty impressive though..


RE: so x1900xt no good?
By akugami on 11/8/2006 3:12:57 PM , Rating: 2
Hugely overpriced. Now, I'm not saying they're not impressive cards though I haven't had the time to truly sift through the reviews. Nor am I saying that these cards didn't take a lot of money to develop. However, the prices put these things way way way out of most people's budget.

However, It doesn't seem like it's much of an upgrade from my X1900XT to the 8800GTS. Especially considering I'd have to sell my X1900XT for between $200-300'ish and then fork over another 300'ish to get an 8800GTS. Upgrading to an 8800GTX would be a good jump in performance but at the same time, Do I really want to pay nearly double what I paid for an X1900XT for a 20-30% jump in performance.

The problem is ATI needs to get off it's rear end and put out the R600 so prices can come down to earth, much like how the 7900 and X1900 prices were high but not astronomical as in the case of the 7800 and now 8800 series.

I'd buy the 8800GTS for $400 retail right now since my friend is upgrading his PC and I can unload my X1900XT on him. However, at $500, it becomes very hard for me to justify the purchase. I'm just going to pick up something like a 7900 or X1900 in the mid $200's range for him and be done with it. Heck, he's still on a Radeon 9500, anything would be a decent bump at this point.


So where are the reviews?
By masher2 (blog) on 11/8/2006 9:54:16 AM , Rating: 2
I thought the NDA expired today; I would have expected the web to be papered with new reviews.




RE: So where are the reviews?
By masher2 (blog) on 11/8/2006 10:13:24 AM , Rating: 2
nm, I guess it expires in a few hours.


Yay nVidia!
By lethalchronic on 11/8/2006 2:02:42 PM , Rating: 2
i like nvidia much better than ati, if your considering dual video card config, all you have to say is "crossfire? WTF!"




RE: Yay nVidia!
By Clauzii on 11/8/2006 8:25:50 PM , Rating: 1
What's wrong with CrossFire?


Hmm...integrated physics
By shamgar03 on 11/8/2006 8:04:37 AM , Rating: 2
This will definately kill physX. Once it is neaerly dead I bet AMD buys it for 10$....OR they will have to partner very closely with havok.




HDCP
By cochy on 11/8/2006 11:24:23 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
ASUS is also one of the few manufacturers that openly claims HDCP support, even though the compliance is present on all 8800-series cards launching today.


Looking at the eVGA box, it seems they state HDCP compliance in pretty big letters there.




So...
By Clienthes on 11/8/2006 3:13:12 PM , Rating: 2
When will we see product for sale?




...
By Josh7289 on 11/8/2006 5:22:05 PM , Rating: 2
599 US dollars...




Great Looks!
By Nightmare225 on 11/8/2006 6:20:31 AM , Rating: 1
Looks like some pretty nicely-designed cards. :O




My card can beat up your card....
By Rollomite on 11/9/2006 1:12:07 PM , Rating: 1
Every deep pocketed tech geek is getting moist panties just looking at this card, I'm sure. I however can't even fathom paying this kind of money for a gpu. I'm sure this will start the flame machine, but I will not pay the same amount for a gpu as a PS3.(And I don't plan on picking one of those up either.) I AM glad, however, that this will drive drive down prices on the high end X1K series cards. I don't think I really need anything more than an X1900XT, and DX10 won't be fully implemented for at least a year after Vista's release, if that soon. So I'll wait for the R600, and the real battle to begin. It should be interesting to see who comes out on top in the single card category.

roLLo




Moderated
By Spar on 11/13/06, Rating: -1
This card is...
By Jesse Taylor on 11/8/06, Rating: -1
"Nowadays you can buy a CPU cheaper than the CPU fan." -- Unnamed AMD executive

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