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  (Source: Unreality Magazine)

The Space Shuttles Atlantis and Discovery are on sale for a mere $28.8M USD. Their engines and other parts are free, if you can transport them away.  (Source: Kim Shiflett, NASA)
There's lots of news concerning NASA's Shuttle fleet, even if they are fading into the twilight

For nearly three decades (since 1981), the Space Shuttle was an iconic symbol of the American space program and the country's primary way of reaching space.  Now as the National Aeronautics and Space Administration is working on its replacement, it's putting the famous spacecraft up for sale.

NASA in December 2008 first offered the Shuttles for sale, hoping to find buyers among museums, schools and elsewhere.  In total, NASA reportedly was offering two of its current fleet of three shuttles for sale for $42M USD a piece (as well as potentially offering the Enterprise, a shuttle prototype).

Over its history NASA has built five operational shuttles.  The first shuttle, OV-102 Columbia flew 27 times before tragically disintegrating (killing all crew aboard) upon reentry in 2003.  NASA also lost its second Shuttle, OV-099 Challenger to a tragic disaster back in 1986.  Currently, there are three Shuttles that have survived their service -- OV-103 Discovery, OV-104 Atlantis, and OV-105 Endeavour, which last flew in September, November, and July of 2009, respectively.

The Discovery has already been promised to the Smithsonian National Air and Space Museum, but the remaining shuttles have gone unsold (Now NASA is reportedly slashing the prices on the shuttles for lack of interested buyers, offering them at the clearance rate of $28.8M USD. 

NASA is confident the price cut will motivate potential buyers to act.  States agency spokesperson Mike Curie, "We’re confident that we’ll get other takers."

NASA also promises to deliver the Shuttles sooner -- late 2011, rather than the previously promised 2012.  Bids must be submitted by February 19.

Amazingly, NASA is giving away the Shuttle engines for free, along with other parts.  It received virtually no interest from buyers, according to agency spokespeople, so it is now offering them at no cost, assuming someone can shoulder the burden of hauling them away.

NASA's situation is similar to that of the former Soviet space program, which sold its own shuttle prototype, Buran, to a Moscow fair after initially offering it online for $3M USD.

In completely unrelated news, NASA is investigating a small amount of cocaine found in the processing hangar for a space shuttle at Kennedy Space Center in Florida.  The agency has drug tested employees who work in the restricted building and is trying to figure out what happened. 

Kennedy Space Center Director Bob Cabana released a statement on the incident, stating,  "This is a rare and isolated incident, and I'm disappointed that it happened, but it should not detract from the outstanding work that is being done by a dedicated team on a daily basis.  There were about 200 NASA and contractor personnel who were around the facility at the time the drug was found.  There is no reason whatsoever to believe this incident will have any impact on Discovery's upcoming launch."

According to NASA, someone lost a bag of the illegal substance next to the hangar's restroom.



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Why scrap these?
By Ohmniscient1 on 1/18/2010 11:59:00 AM , Rating: 5
Ok I understand they are getting old but why scrap these shuttles? what a waste! Utilize them in space where the mechanical stresses are lower than launch. Can't these be loaded up an flown to the space station and deliver some more supplies or experiments or even for some production and then utilized there as extra room and used as an escape pod later if needed? How about using them to ferry astronauts to the moon on the next stage of the new mission? or as an orbital base around the moon. Or load in an orbital telescope of some kind? How about keeping them up there with extra fuel tank in the bay to nudge a deadly asteroid on a different course? There has got to be some better practical use than as a museum piece or crazy billionare collection piece in their back yard! $28.8 mil, how much did these cost to build?! Appearantly its just to easy for our government to get more tax money from its people and just throw away billion dollar systems.
Crazy how we are going back to an apollo type system after that was sent to scrap and we will now be without a system for at least 5 yrs!




RE: Why scrap these?
By cruzer on 1/18/2010 12:22:42 PM , Rating: 2
You actually have some good ideas!
I think though these would require specialized and expensive maintenance even if parked in space?
How about filling the cargo bay with our very worst toxic or radioactive garbage and shooting it into the sun, haha..


RE: Why scrap these?
By MozeeToby on 1/18/2010 12:45:11 PM , Rating: 2
The moon ideas can't work, the shuttle doesn't have the Delta-V to get to the moon. Let alone insert itself into Lunar orbit (don't forget, that takes fuel too).

As for docking the Shuttle to the ISS, that could work; though not as a lifeboat since the heat shield is probably to fragile to count on after it's been in orbit for a few years. If you think that's a waste, you should read up on the idea of boosting the Shuttle's external fuel tanks into orbit and using them as what's called a 'Wet workshop'.

Basically, the tanks are about 2% away from orbital velocity when they are released. Keep it attached into orbit and bleed off any remaining fuel and you'd have a huge space in orbit. Link up a dozen of them (keep in mind there's been more than a hundred shuttle flights) and you'd have a large space station structurally strong enough that you could spin it for artificial gravity. It's been a huge waste of fuel not to boost them into orbit and take advantage of them, probably a higher total waste then scraping the shuttles will be.


RE: Why scrap these?
By Lifted on 1/18/2010 2:09:36 PM , Rating: 2
I'm not expert, but having toxic empty fuel tanks in orbit around the Earth doesn't sound like it would be very useful to anyone, other than for target practice I guess.


RE: Why scrap these?
By mkruer on 1/18/2010 2:34:33 PM , Rating: 2
The Space Shuttle external tank hold liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen. That being said, http://www.permanent.com/p-extank.htm I support this idea. Its a little too late for the shuttle, but its not for Ares V, which in effect uses the Space Shuttle external tank http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ares_V


RE: Why scrap these?
By MozeeToby on 1/18/2010 3:04:43 PM , Rating: 2
Nothing toxic that a few days exposed to hard vacuum wouldn't dissipate, keep in mind the fuel is Hydrogen and Oxygen in two seperate tanks; if they only used the liquid oxygen sub-tank they would still have 560 cubic meters of space, more than the entire ISS. The Hydrogen tank measures in at an insane 1500 cubic meters, 5 times the volume of the ISS.

NASA had test flights planned but they were cancelled after the Challenger accident; this isn't some sci-fi hack's idea, this came from the engineers themselves. Granted, you'd have to bring up the equipment and supplies to make it a livable space, but the structure itself is essentially free.


RE: Why scrap these?
By tygrus on 1/19/2010 12:45:16 AM , Rating: 2
Virgin Galactic could soon have a launch vehicle! 2nd hand with several million miles on the clock with a few risks but we can afford to loose a few billionaires.


RE: Why scrap these?
By EJ257 on 1/19/2010 9:39:05 AM , Rating: 2
I don't think the $28.8 million or even $42 million asking price for buying them is the problem for VG. The problem is the cost of maintaining these guys to space worthiness specs in the long run if they are going to use them for commercial flights. That is why NASA is trying to rid of the things. That and the several billion miles on the odometer ;)


RE: Why scrap these?
By TSS on 1/18/2010 1:52:12 PM , Rating: 2
I'm all for saving tax money and everything but come on. These things are what? 3 decades old? What the hell lasts 3 decades of blasting into space?

The best use for these shuttles is to give it to the private sector (or sell it for a low amount of money like their doing) for reverse engineering and getting some real space age going.

Otherwise they'll just end up as scrap anyway. No offense to a great machine, but it's been enough. Now it's time for the next generation to serve 30 years (while beeing built for 10).


RE: Why scrap these?
By ClownPuncher on 1/18/2010 6:16:01 PM , Rating: 2
Wasn't Endeavor built in the mid '90s?


RE: Why scrap these?
By Seemonkeyscanfly on 1/20/2010 9:07:25 AM , Rating: 2
Well they did say they hope they could sell to several place including a school. A space shuttle would make an excellent jungle gym. The kids would love playing with a shuttle.


RE: Why scrap these?
By Souka on 1/18/2010 5:24:17 PM , Rating: 5
They should just put these up on eBay.... no min bid.

:)


RE: Why scrap these?
By monomer on 1/18/2010 6:30:43 PM , Rating: 5
But you know they're gonna hose you on the shipping costs.


RE: Why scrap these?
By DominionSeraph on 1/18/2010 7:30:29 PM , Rating: 2
The shuttle isn't designed for extended space missions. If you refit it, you're still looking at a 151,205 lb shell that there's no point lugging to space.


It worked for John De Lorean
By Lord 666 on 1/18/2010 10:38:48 AM , Rating: 5
NASA could greatly increase its revenue by getting involved in some distribution.

Perfect location in Florida, enough planes to transport, and their own security system would make Narcotics and Substances Agency very profitable leading to a real program again.




By Gul Westfale on 1/18/2010 11:10:08 AM , Rating: 3
but what would competition do to the CIA?


For Sale...
By ashegam on 1/18/2010 10:42:20 AM , Rating: 5
Any coupon codes out there?




RE: For Sale...
By Mitch101 on 1/18/2010 12:37:51 PM , Rating: 3
$25.00 off using bill me later is the best I can find.

I say go for it then we can all watch Operation Repo try and repo it.


Cocaine and a vehicle for sale?
By mydogfarted on 1/18/2010 2:13:18 PM , Rating: 2
When did John DeLorean start running NASA?




By waffle911 on 1/20/2010 12:43:08 PM , Rating: 2
...from the grave?


Buy one and launch it!
By thorr2 on 1/19/2010 1:07:27 AM , Rating: 2
Hey, I just had a great idea. Why not buy one of these and actually use it? They are giving you the engine and everything. It's like the movie "The Astronaut Farmer" come true! You just need to get the fuel, the rockets, etc. Shouldn't be too difficult. It seems like they are itching to get rid of these things. Maybe they will throw in the supplies for free...




RE: Buy one and launch it!
By AstroGuardian on 1/20/2010 5:28:58 AM , Rating: 2
Yea, you just need the fuel and the rockets and you have a nuke ready aiming for Washington DC or New York.


Tony lives!
By Woobagong on 1/18/2010 10:40:07 AM , Rating: 2
He always wanted to fly at higher game. There we have it.




Space junk
By SavagePotato on 1/18/2010 4:31:26 PM , Rating: 2
They will probably end up on craigslist.




hmm
By ScarfaceFX on 1/18/2010 11:50:35 PM , Rating: 2
I find it a bit strange they are doing this a few years before 2012, and "plan" on building new shuttles sometime around 2014. I just seems like a coincidense.




Coke
By coparofl on 1/21/2010 12:14:25 AM , Rating: 2
Is NASA going to sell the coke they found as well?

lol.




Completely unrelated? I think not!
By nafhan on 1/18/10, Rating: 0
Cocaine
By Gul Westfale on 1/18/10, Rating: -1
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