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NASA now looking for someone to create and maintain MMO game for free

At the beginning of 2008, the NASA Learning Technologies Project Office issued a request for information (RFI) on the development of a NASA-based massively multi-player online (MMO) learning game.

The goal of such a NASA MMO would be a training tool similar to what the U.S. Army intended to accomplish with the game. “Virtual worlds with scientifically accurate simulations could permit learners to tinker with chemical reactions in living cells, practice operating and repairing expensive equipment, and experience microgravity – making it easier to grasp complex concepts and quickly transfer this understanding to practical problems,” NASA wrote in its original request.

After supposed hundred-plus responses to NASA’s inquiry, the next step that the administration is taking proposals for partner after its release of an RFP (PDF). The interesting development is that NASA is looking for someone to complete this project for free, as written in the RFP: “It is intended that this request will result in the establishment of a non-reimbursable Space Act Agreement (defined as one with no exchange of funds) that will define the full roles and responsibilities of NASA and the proposing organization.” (Bolded parts from original source.)

NASA described its proposed project as something comparable to World of Warcraft and Second Life, and noted that it should “Present real NASA engineering and science missions in a medium that is comfortable and familiar to the majority of students in the United States today.”

The development and upkeep of an MMO, especially one that would be comparable to the titles NASA used as examples, is not an affordable affair, making NASA’s request for a deal that’s not monetary in nature seem rather unrealistic in today’s game development landscape.

Such a developer partner won’t be completely empty handed, however, as NASA noted in its RFP, “In exchange for a collaborator's investment to create and manage a NASA-based MMO game for fun and to enhance STEM, NASA will consider negotiating brand placement, limited exclusivity and other opportunities”

As pointed out in the Second Life Herald, it was originally expected that NASA would devote $3 million towards an MMO project, which has seemingly evaporated.

Nothing in the RFP prohibits the potential partner company from including in-game advertisements, or charging users a subscription fee. However it's now clear that NASA does not intend to fund an upcoming MMO in the same spirit of America's Army at all.

That is, assuming there are any takers at all.



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Product placement with taco bell
By geddarkstorm on 4/22/2008 12:26:38 PM , Rating: 2
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“In exchange for a collaborator's investment to create and manage a NASA-based MMO game for fun and to enhance STEM, NASA will consider negotiating brand placement, limited exclusivity and other opportunities”


Great, I can see it now, Pepsi logos all over the space shuttle with a bright neon sign towed behind.




RE: Product placement with taco bell
By Hexus on 4/22/2008 12:40:00 PM , Rating: 2
Horray for commercialization. I can see it now... A beatiful night, a warm wind blowing, the twinkling starts, you look up and you see..... EA's logo carved into the moon.


RE: Product placement with taco bell
By Hexus on 4/22/2008 12:41:36 PM , Rating: 2
Wow... Maybe I should examine my own posts. I meant stars not starts.


By phxfreddy on 4/28/2008 5:33:25 PM , Rating: 2
Betelguese is my favorite start.


RE: Product placement with taco bell
By Ringold on 4/22/2008 7:24:41 PM , Rating: 1
This sort of thing gets trotted out a lot of times when business and space end up in the same breath.

Sure, lets keep evil capitalists hands off, and keep space pure from our vile influence. I bet roads in North Korea have no huge "McDonalds - Next Exit" signs defiling the natural scenery.

Assuming you can find a paved highway in North Korea, anyway.

If NASA can get some cash for putting a logo on the sides of the Shuttle, then good for NASA. I don't see liberal politicians, nor many conservative ones, campaigning for more money for NASA. Obama wants to can manned spaceflight entirely, and I don't think Clinton has mentioned it since Texas, though she at least talked a big game. NASA has next to zero public support interest. Where ever NASA can get some coin these days, good for them!

Oddly enough, former-communist Russian's are way ahead of us on this.


RE: Product placement with taco bell
By AlexWade on 4/22/2008 9:44:28 PM , Rating: 2
Seriously! Obama wants to cancel a lot of NASA stuff? The space program has made a ton of advancements that we use today.

Plus, I watch every single shuttle launch on HDNet or in person if I can. I will miss that very much if they cancel manned flights.


By FITCamaro on 4/23/2008 7:31:12 AM , Rating: 1
People take the advancements the space program has developed for us for granted. They don't even know what things came from the space program. Plastics, synthetic fibers, packaged foods, etc. People don't appreciate where things came from. They only demand more of them at cheap prices.


By FITCamaro on 4/23/2008 7:31:45 AM , Rating: 3
I hate Obama even more now.


RE: Product placement with taco bell
By onwisconsin on 4/23/2008 11:19:12 AM , Rating: 4
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Obama wants to can manned spaceflight entirely


Interesting...got a link? This doesn't sound like the (republican-crafted) "tax and spend" stereotype I've heard growing up


RE: Product placement with taco bell
By Ringold on 4/23/2008 11:45:20 AM , Rating: 2
Got a link? Google is your friend. It's been plastered all over most of the space news/advocacy websites I visit, and he's repeated it multiple times all this year.

As for the tax and spend thing, he's not doing it simply to save money, his excuse is that he wants to shift pork from NASA to education spending. Nevermind the studies that show NASA spending can have a good return on investment, and data suggesting our "lets throw money at it" solution to education has failed, he wants to whack NASA down a notch. Excellent investment choices, Obama.


RE: Product placement with taco bell
By odessit740 on 4/23/2008 6:56:43 PM , Rating: 1
He's a closet socialist who's not that well hidden in his closet.

Obama talks about how hard it is to be black, ****** please! He went to Harvard and paid tuition, so did his wife, and he's still complaining how hard it was for him to be black. The school system is so screwed up because education is undervalued, nowadays everyone is getting 'educated', but not learning anything from it. I say that the US should have a system like Britain where learning is rewarded, not forced upon.

It don't matter if you're black, white, yellow, jew, christian, muslim, hindi, w/e the **** you are, if you don't want to learn, if you show poor results, then you should not be admitted to the next step of the academical ladder. Kids are graduating from college and they don't know anything, because they're grades were just good enough to get by. And its not because they're stupid or lack talent, they're lazy and don't have ambition. These kids get out of college with their 'education' and can't apply it, what good are they? A bachelor's degree isn't as valuable anymore because there's so many people with bachelor's degrees out in the working world, and the problem isn't that they have a bachelor's, its that they don't know jack shit about their field. The degree is getting diluted. Now everyone needs a Masters to be a step up.

People like Obama want to feed the masses from a government spoon thats paid for by taxpayer dollars, which is not the role of government as it was implemented by the forefathers who wrote the Constitution.

In this day and age everyone has forgotten how hard life is, it isn't about playing video games or watching tv, its about survival. Our society atrophies because we sit on our asses, watch tv, play video games, and watch porn. I'm not saying that relaxing isn't important, it is, its very important to unwind but we have to acknowledge that when your playing WOW, your not learning a new programming language, or learning quantum physics, or studying the evolution of the genome. Life isn't about fun, its about work, survival, and progenation. We make it fun, but in doing so we lose some work ethic and productivity.

Sorry for the rant, but had to get it out of me.


By StormEffect on 4/29/2008 6:05:52 PM , Rating: 2
"Our society atrophies because we sit on our asses, watch tv, play video games, and watch porn . I'm not saying that relaxing isn't important..."

+1
You make me laugh. Forget pepsi logos plastered on the side of the space shuttle, lets turn the space station into a brothel and the Mars rovers into kinky prostitutes!


By Polynikes on 4/24/2008 12:38:01 PM , Rating: 2
Luckily, the president alone cannot have a such a serious impact on what NASA does. Congress controls the purse.


By Belard on 4/23/2008 6:51:58 PM , Rating: 2
Nope... nope! You got it wrong.

It will be BLUE SUN Logos all over the place.

Pepsi & Coke have no future in outer space... everyone knows that.


I'm not sure which is worse...
By tspinning on 4/22/2008 7:27:17 PM , Rating: 2
NASA actually mentions they want it to be a WoW x SecondLife cross-

~What about EVEonline?! It seems to be the closest thing out there IMO.

or the fact that....

They can't come up with a few million dollars to inspire, educate, and finance tomorrows astronauts, engineers, and scientists!




RE: I'm not sure which is worse...
By Fenixgoon on 4/22/2008 8:02:58 PM , Rating: 2
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They can't come up with a few million dollars to inspire, educate, and finance tomorrows astronauts, engineers, and scientists!


and given the billions funded into public education, do you think a few million from NASA is going to improve the ROI as far as engineers and scientists are concerned?

where's the IBM commercial where they throw a giant sack of money at the problem?


RE: I'm not sure which is worse...
By Ringold on 4/22/2008 8:29:13 PM , Rating: 2
What amuses me is that NASA feigns concern over engineers when they're going to be forced to soon lay off vast numbers of them.


RE: I'm not sure which is worse...
By FITCamaro on 4/23/2008 7:39:31 AM , Rating: 3
NASA has no desire to lay off engineers. Unfortunately, thanks to Clinton's massive cuts and a general lack of interest by the American people in the space program, NASA has no space shuttle replacement (sorry the new "Crew Exploration Vehicle" is a joke) for before the shuttle is retired and funding isn't likely to go up so they will have to.

Personally I am disgusted at how most Americans don't give a damn about the space program. If it doesn't give them something for "free", they don't care about the government funding it.


RE: I'm not sure which is worse...
By Ringold on 4/23/2008 11:49:08 AM , Rating: 2
I think the CBO recently tore the CEV and Ares I a new one as well over safety, reliability and feasibility concerns. That thing has been a sad joke from day 1, and has all the early signs of becoming another ISS-style boondoggle.

Perhaps if we take a knee before Beijing and ask nicely though, they'll help us out.


RE: I'm not sure which is worse...
By geddarkstorm on 4/23/2008 4:43:24 PM , Rating: 3
Considering the importance of space for the future of our race, it is frighteningly sad. The sense of adventure and exploration has kinda evaporated from the American culture from what I see. I wish you weren't right.