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It's a G thing -- NASA snapped these exciting photos of the newly discovered moonlet in Saturn's G ring.  (Source: NASA/JPL/Space Science Institute )
Moonlet is third found by Cassini probe

What's hiding in Saturn's G ring?  The answer, NASA recently discovered, is a new moonlet.  NASA's Cassini probe, currently in orbit around Saturn, snapped pictures of the small Saturnian satellite. Scientists think that debris from the moonlet may be creating Saturn's outer G ring and its ring arc.

The new moonlet is a mere half a kilometer (~0.333 mi) across and was discovered only by comparing images from 600 days of orbit.  Saturn's rings starting from the innermost are the D, C, B, A, F, G and E rings.  The G ring, the second to outermost, is a rather diffuse ring.  However, it contains a bright arc, 250 km (~150 mi) wide.  The noticeable arc only extends a sixth of the way around Saturn, or approximately 150,000 km (~90,000 mi).

Cassini has measured plasma and dust in the arc, and scientists believe it is the product of large, icy particles, coming from small moonlets.  With the new discovery, they believe that the new moonlet is the primary source of this bright ice.

The new moonlet is small enough that its size is impossible to determine exactly.  However, approximates were made using the moon's brightness in comparison to another small Saturnian moon, Pallene.  The researchers also discovered that Mimas, a larger moon that shepherds the G ring's arc and keeps it from floating away is disrupting the moonlet's orbit.

Cassini has now found 3 moonlets within Saturn's ring arcs.  Scientists believe that numerous bodies from 1 to 100 meters (~3 to 300 ft) exist within Saturn's rings.  However, moonlets are still something rather unusual.  Both types of satellites are predicted to give rise to the moon. 

States Matthew Hedman, "Before Cassini, the G ring was the only dusty ring that was not clearly associated with a known moon, which made it odd.  The discovery of this moonlet, together with other Cassini data, should help us make sense of this previously mysterious ring.  Meteoroid impacts into, and collisions among, these bodies and the moonlet could liberate dust to form the arc."

Carl Murray, a researcher on the project and professor at the Queen Mary, University of London adds, "The moon's discovery and the disturbance of its trajectory by the neighboring moon Mimas highlight the close association between moons and rings that we see throughout the Saturn system. Hopefully, we will learn in the future more about how such arcs form and interact with their parent bodies."

Saturn has 61 known moons.  In addition it has hundreds of moonlets in orbit as well.  While some of these moonlets seem inconsequential, some are thought to be very important in the formation and maintenance of Saturn's rings.

Cassini is a joint project between NASA and European Space Agency and the Italian Space Agency.  It's has two onboard cameras, which were designed by the Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL), a division of the California Institute of Technology, and controlled by the Space Science Institute, Boulder, CO.

It is currently in its Cassini Equinox mission, an extension of its original four year mission.  The new mission will end in the fall of 2010.  Scientists are still deciding whether at that point to retire the probe or to keep it active.  Either way, the probe has been a shining success for NASA



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Pimpin Saturn...
By B166ER on 3/5/2009 8:58:59 AM , Rating: 2
Saturn all hard like dat, mad skrilla off in his rangssss...




RE: Pimpin Saturn...
By inperfectdarkness on 3/5/2009 9:08:35 AM , Rating: 5
ain't nuthing but a g-ring


RE: Pimpin Saturn...
By tastyratz on 3/5/2009 9:11:15 AM , Rating: 2
Playa saturn be hustlin dem moons yo!


RE: Pimpin Saturn...
By MrHanson on 3/5/2009 9:20:16 AM , Rating: 4
Dis about exitin as finen dem rangs round yo anus!


RE: Pimpin Saturn...
By Sir Picto on 3/5/2009 11:30:37 AM , Rating: 2
Dust row is the label that pays me.


RE: Pimpin Saturn...
By bankerdude on 3/5/2009 11:37:08 AM , Rating: 2
G's up, rows down


RE: Pimpin Saturn...
By Bender 123 on 3/5/2009 9:31:57 AM , Rating: 2
Word yo, Saturn got so much junk in da trunk she keep a moon in her G-String...


RE: Pimpin Saturn...
By PorreKaj on 3/5/2009 9:44:00 AM , Rating: 2
Yo Dawg, i heard yo like to moon
So i put a moon in your G-string so you can moon while you moon.

-.-


RE: Pimpin Saturn...
By therealnickdanger on 3/5/2009 10:08:37 AM , Rating: 5
<Comic Book Guy>
Worst. Thread. EVER.
</Comic Book Guy>


RE: Pimpin Saturn...
By Bender 123 on 3/5/2009 11:50:39 AM , Rating: 2
Dont hate the playa, hate the game...Unless this is the planet Poochie is from, then you can go right ahead and hate the playa too.


That's no moon....
By Oxonium on 3/5/2009 9:50:48 AM , Rating: 5
it's a space station!




RE: That's no moon....
By scrapsma54 on 3/6/2009 7:24:12 AM , Rating: 1
Thats yo mama!!


g-spot
By SnakeBlitzken on 3/5/2009 9:42:41 AM , Rating: 3
That little g-thing is so hard to find sometimes.




A small moon!
By MrPoletski on 3/6/2009 9:06:13 AM , Rating: 2
That's no moon...




SEGA knew all along
By CZroe on 3/5/2009 4:04:47 PM , Rating: 1
I'm just waiting for this remnant to prove the existance of the odd "S" spiral that SEGA reportedly discovered in 1995.

"SEGA: THERE! Right there! Did you see it?
SONY/NINTENDO: Where?! I don't see anything.
SEGA: RIGHT TH- oh, never mind. It's gone. You believe me right?"




Congrats NASA
By afkrotch on 3/5/09, Rating: -1
RE: Congrats NASA
By B166ER on 3/5/2009 9:32:08 AM , Rating: 2
Yous'a a hata, playa....


RE: Congrats NASA
By theslug on 3/5/2009 10:03:13 AM , Rating: 2
I am absolutely baffled as to how someone actually rated this asinine post up.


RE: Congrats NASA
By theapparition on 3/5/2009 10:11:40 AM , Rating: 5
Spoken like someone without a clue. Good job!

While this discovery may have little impact on our lives, the technology improvements that were utilized to make this discovery may lead to major accomplishments. Improvements on optics and detection algorithms could lead towards the discovery of new inhabitable worlds far away. Or for that matter, just improvements in optics could lead to narrower laser focusing and higher capacity optical drives. Applications may be endless.

Most space exploration has yielded very few directly tangeble results, while providing a myriad of intangibles. Doubt a minute goes by in your life where it hasn't been touched by a science funded by the space program.

But what they hell, when we spend hundreds of billions yearly on entitlement programs, that lousy pitance of tax payers money that NASA gets could certainly be better served going towards more welefare mothers trips on Jerry Springer.


RE: Congrats NASA
By afkrotch on 3/5/09, Rating: -1
RE: Congrats NASA
By JediJeb on 3/5/2009 12:14:24 PM , Rating: 2
Of course back when this project was built and launched, no one was even thinking about the end of the shuttles or a recession. Right now this would not be a project that would have top priority, but then it did. And if NASA did just shut it down not because there are other things to think about, that would be a huge waste of the money that had already been spent.


RE: Congrats NASA
By afkrotch on 3/5/09, Rating: -1
RE: Congrats NASA
By maven81 on 3/5/2009 2:06:56 PM , Rating: 3
You can almost picture afkrotch yelling to Columbus in 1492... "what's the point! We already know a route to India! And the money that was used for this expedition could have been better spent on building churches! our citizens need them!"

Shall I list the reasons you are incredibly blind?

1)Science for science sake is how we develop technology. We didn't have to dive to the bottom of the ocean either, but the craft built to get there sure taught us a lot. Just building the cassini spacecraft alone is interesting all by itself as it adds to our experience in navigation, making electronics that can survive radiation, making redundant systems that don't fail easily, writing software with a rudimentary level of AI that can run a craft with no input from us, etc...

2)Cassini isn't there just to count moons, which should be obvious. It's there to do a complete survey of the saturnian system... that includes Titan, which with it's nitrogen rich atmosphere is one of the closest analogs to earth in the solar system, and can show us what earth might look like if the temperature was over a hundred degrees below zero. It's also there to study planetary weather systems, magnetic fields, the solar wind and a million other things you obviously don't have a clue about.

3)There is plenty of historical evidence of what happens when budgets are decided by people like you, and none of it is positive. This is why projects like the particle accelerator in Texas were canceled, and we've basically ceded cutting edge science to Europe. Though I guess that's not a big deal to you either.

4)Asking questions is what makes us human. And that kid with a telescope? For all you know he could grow up to be the next einstein, but hell... he's just wasting his time in your eyes. Why even bother to explore at all then? If you have food on the table and a roof over your head you'd be content to never look out the window? Come on...


RE: Congrats NASA
By maven81 on 3/5/2009 2:16:45 PM , Rating: 2
Oh and...

It could have also been possible to simply hand it over to the DoD to turn the telescope into a spy satellite. Then we can see things like how many hairs Kim Jong-Il has on his right buttcheek.

You got it backwards... the camera on Cassini uses a 7" telescope and a 1024x1024 sensor. Nothing to write home about. The DOD on the other hand has probably dozens of satellites the size of hubble. Might be fun to point even one of them to the sky instead.


RE: Congrats NASA
By afkrotch on 3/5/2009 3:56:07 PM , Rating: 1
1. We have vacuums with rudimentary level of AI and it didn't require my tax payer money to fund it. $8.2 billion spent. Ya, I cause they couldn't have figured out how to do all that you mentioned for a hell of a lot less. Science for science sake is hardly how we develop technology. Science for profit is how we develop technology.

2. And yet we haven't figured out our own planet. We can't even figure out Earth's weather patterns. The hell we need to know about some other planet's weather patterns. Once you figure out Earth's weather patterns, then by all means. Study other planets.

Yes, it's interesting to learn all about some other planet an all, but is it $8.2 billion dollars worth?

3. Particle accelerators. Something we can use to learn and make progress for us. CRT tvs, x-ray machines, etc. Very useful accelerators. Knowing about some moon on a different planet billions of kilometers away. Not so useful.

ceded cutting edge science to Europe. Umm...the world's largest particle accelerator in Europe will be used by Americans. The one in Texas would just be redundant. Hell, the US dumped $513 mil into the thing.

I to would have cancelled the Texas project.

4. The odds of that kid growing up to be the next Einstein is a lot lower than the odds of that kid growing up to leech money off society.

Majority of your advancements today have not come from these national organizations. They come from the public sector. That or the military sector.

You mentioned Columbus. Even he was wasn't fueled by scientific advancement. He was fueled by profit. He guessed that it'd be shorter and more direct to sail westward than going through the overland trade route. Faster trade, faster money.

Organizations like NASA are more about increasing our knowledge. Not advancing our technology. I simply think more of their budget should be used to increase our knowledge of what affects us.

Saturn's moons, rings, debris, radiation, etc hasn't done much to affect me. Cept take my tax money and create this article.


RE: Congrats NASA
By maven81 on 3/5/2009 6:15:03 PM , Rating: 2
We have vacuums with rudimentary level of AI and it didn't require my tax payer money to fund it."

The AI in that vacuum is nowhere near the level of AI in a spacecraft that can execute a complicated mission and report the results. And that AI technology did not come from thin air too you know.

"$8.2 billion spent. Ya, I cause they couldn't have figured out how to do all that you mentioned for a hell of a lot less."

Where did you get that number from? The mission cost is 1.2 billion if I remember correctly, and while operational costs aren't cheap, they certainly aren't in the billions. To put things in perspective a single B2 bomber costs more.

Science for science sake is hardly how we develop technology. Science for profit is how we develop technology."

Utter nonsense. I've pointed this out in another thread, but the team that invented the transistor were not working on a product, they were doing basic research. The laser was also invented purely for research... in fact at first there was resistance to publish the findings because no one could see the usefulness of this discovery! X-rays? discovered by accident. Radar? also an accident as radio operators realized radio waves were bouncing off objects... The list is massive.

"And yet we haven't figured out our own planet. We can't even figure out Earth's weather patterns."

Hate to break it to you, but physics works exactly the same on earth as it does on saturn. The discoveries about hurricanes you make there could tell you something about hurricanes here. And we're already studying the earth, it's not like we've used our budget to study saturn instead.
Your lack of curiosity also makes me wonder why you'd even post on a site called dailytech to begin with.

"Knowing about some moon on a different planet billions of kilometers away. Not so useful."

I already told you that it's not the only thing cassini is doing, but you don't seem to grasp that.

"Majority of your advancements today have not come from these national organizations. They come from the public sector. That or the military sector."

Who do you think works on these government projects? Could it be... private contractors? And you're wrong anyway, the NSF sponsors a lot of interesting research, and when it comes to space the military and NASA overlap (the shuttle was used to haul military cargo for example).

"You mentioned Columbus. Even he was wasn't fueled by scientific advancement. He was fueled by profit. He guessed that it'd be shorter and more direct to sail westward than going through the overland trade route. Faster trade, faster money."

Wrong... Spain may have benefited financially from that discovery, but it's not like he would get a royalty from each person that traveled on his route. As an explorer he was motivated by the same things as all explorers are, the desire to find something new.
Just like the person who invented SCUBA gear wasn't trying to become a millionaire but rather was trying to dive deeper to see what it's like.

"Organizations like NASA are more about increasing our knowledge. Not advancing our technology."

Right... that's why in the early 60s they bought half of the country's entire supply of chips... Think about that for a second.


RE: Congrats NASA
By DeepBlue1975 on 3/6/2009 7:51:29 AM , Rating: 2
Don't waste your time explaining, dude.

Most people simply don't know that something called LONG TERM exists.
And what's worse, those are the same that never recognize the small steps ahead that knowledge keeps making...
But yet are there to rip the benefits every time a long and slow-but-steady chain of knowledge accumulation processes ends up allowing for a practical technological application than can be used in daily life.


RE: Congrats NASA
By bankerdude on 3/5/2009 10:33:45 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Seriously, WTF does this accomplish, aside from siphoning money off tax payers?

Well, for one thing it provides fodder for ignorant fools who have a very limited viewpoint to spew their pearls of wisdom all over this thread.


RE: Congrats NASA
By hduser on 3/5/2009 1:57:28 PM , Rating: 4
Without NASA we wouldn't have known that there were rings around Uranus


RE: Congrats NASA
By deeznuts on 3/6/2009 3:07:20 AM , Rating: 2
It didn't take NASA to find the moon around Uranus


RE: Congrats NASA
By wordsworm on 3/6/2009 5:51:45 AM , Rating: 3
ugh... when will the Uranus jokes cease? I can't wait until they finally rename it Urectum to end the tasteless humor.


RE: Congrats NASA
By callmeroy on 3/6/2009 9:29:48 AM , Rating: 2
The funny thing is everyone that pronounces it so the joke makes sense is saying it wrong.

Of course it doesn't help with how its spelled, but its actually should sound like "UR-A-NUSS", with the "NUSS" part rhyming with "fuss".

Aside from that this joke is so long running it breaks the first rule of comedy : "Don't wear out a joke"


RE: Congrats NASA
By callmeroy on 3/6/2009 9:25:19 AM , Rating: 2
I concur, congrats to you sir.....you are currently in the lead for making the most pathetic and moronic (as well as clueless) post on Daily Tech for the year 2009.

Let's see if you are knocked out of the running over the rest of the year....


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