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Establishing a permanent moon base is on the minds of many

NASA recently announced plans for a permanent base on the moon, which would begin once astronauts physically return to the moon around the year 2020.  The U.S. space agency is interested in constructing rockets and spacecraft that will be able to get people and supplies to the moon. 

The base will be built at one of the moon's poles, as the poles should offer a mild climate and more sunlight than other locations.  Four-person crews will initially spend short durations on the moon with teams constantly being rotated in and out, as with the current routine at the International Space Station.

The scientists and researchers stationed at the moon base would be able to use the moon's natural resources to help maintain the lunar outpost.  It is believed that the lunar base could be used as a stepping stone for future manned missions to Mars.  NASA has not released a specific cost estimate for the program.  NASA also plans on asking other nations and businesses to assist in the creation of the lunar base.

But before manned missions can be launched, NASA will launch a series of robotic missions to help study and analyze possible locations of lunar camps.  The lunar reconnaissance orbiter, scheduled to launch sometime in 2008, will create high-resolution maps to allow scientists to pick good landing sites while searching for natural resources.

Additionally, NASA anticipates to announce more details of Project Orion, the task to put American astronauts back on the moon by 2020, later this year.  Russia then pledged to put a mine on the moon by 2020, China has also announced that it plans to put a man on the moon by 2024, followed by JAXA in 2030. Although we're easily a decade before an actual space race, the moon is certainly shaping up to become the next backdrop for such an event.


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Nice news but sad
By cochy on 12/5/2006 3:30:56 AM , Rating: 4
Just saw this news on cnn.com. What's sad about it to me is that the space program moves at such a slow pace. Back in the Apollo days you could go from ZERO space program to landing a man on the moon in 10 years...now with our current technology it takes 20 years to even set foot there again??? lol I'd be happier if they just got rid of Nasa all together than fund them like a 3rd rate social program. *weeps* Can't any government realize that the future is in space? A nation with a huge head start will have a massive advantage. Meh I hope a rich nation like China will grab the ball.




RE: Nice news but sad
By GhandiInstinct on 12/5/06, Rating: 0
RE: Nice news but sad
By GhandiInstinct on 12/5/06, Rating: 0
RE: Nice news but sad
By Tyler 86 on 12/5/06, Rating: 0
RE: Nice news but sad
By KristopherKubicki (blog) on 12/5/2006 3:45:59 AM , Rating: 2
Everyone who has an account has the ability to moderate up or down. We've noticed a problem and are working on giving fewer points to members with lower post counts and lower post scores.

Kristopher


RE: Nice news but sad
By creathir on 12/5/2006 4:05:55 AM , Rating: 1
So now I actually get PUNISHED for being conservative?
;)

- Creathir


RE: Nice news but sad
By Le Québécois on 12/5/2006 9:26:25 AM , Rating: 2
It's not any worst than beeing punished because I bad mouth all the time against the comments system (Yes I know Kristopher you don't like it and even modded me up at some point because I was "under fire").

My rating is almost below the 1.5 mark because of that so sorry Kristopher but :
quote:
We've noticed a problem and are working on giving fewer points to members with lower post counts and lower post scores .


So because I got under fire so many times I will be punished too. I don't think it's right.

I don't think it's a good idea either. From what I can see the system is based(if not a complete copy) on the comments section of Anandtech articles. This system may works there but here I think it need a complete overhaul.

Like I said in a previous comments in another news last month I have plenty of ideas of how to make a better one so just e-mail me and I'll send you the whole thing.

I have some past experience in forums modding ( www.bahagon.com , a French Canadien online RPG game) I am sure I could be off some help in designing a good one for DailyTech. But there's no point for me to send it to you if you're not interested.

Until next time,

Le Québécois.


RE: Nice news but sad
By KristopherKubicki (blog) on 12/5/2006 3:21:57 PM , Rating: 2
It's a logical AND: meaning you have to have a low post count AND low post score. Neither you nor Creathir fall into that category.

We've been tracking the moderation and this would eliminate a good chunk of the unneeded moderations down.

Kristopher


RE: Nice news but sad
By Le Québécois on 12/5/2006 5:08:21 PM , Rating: 2
Ah the good old Boolean algebra logic. That was one of my favorite courses back in college.

I'm glad you cleared that out for me. Thanks because you frightened me when I first read about that sooner today.

It won't be perfect but now I think it's a pretty good idea. At least that way only active members will be able to rate many comments down when they don't feel like writing back. And it will also force people to think before writing thing so they don't get rated down all the time.

Now if only that system would have been in place before I was taken into(or started) that whole flame war about the comments system. But hey, you(meaning me here) can't have it all. At least I'm glad the system is improving.

Thanks again.

Until next time,

Le Québécois.


RE: Nice news but sad
By Dfere on 12/5/2006 9:45:17 AM , Rating: 3
Creatir,

You are not being punished.

It is simply a system in which he who yells the most with more support by the masses, gets to overshout your opinion, and you count less, without regard to subject matter, or experience. So if you don't yell all the time, and don't play to the masses, you don't count as much. Welcome to liberalism 101. Perhaps this is the basis for "minority rights"?

At least it is harder to classify someone here, so someone cannot play a race/sexism card as conveniently.......

Stand tall.


RE: Nice news but sad
By sbanjac on 12/5/2006 6:19:29 AM , Rating: 2
Has it occured to you that someone realy doesn't agree with your post?


RE: Nice news but sad
By Aikouka on 12/5/2006 8:35:17 AM , Rating: 2
What does that matter? I believe the link to moderate up and down does not say "I Agree" and "I Disagree" respectively. In fact, you may not have agreed with the two posts above, but they were on topic and presenting their opinion in a decent manner (not filled with chat speak or inane banter, etc).

Moderation was implemented to get rid of people making moronic posts like, "ZOMG FIRST" or responding to someone's comment with "NO UR SUTPID!" I remember reading DailyTech before the moderation system went in and every thread had someone going "First Post!" and now I think I've seen it... what... once?

So, in short, the concept of moderating isn't whether you agree, it's whether the post meets a certain level of quality.

Oh and ummm on topic... a moon base sounds interesting. I'd kind of like to see some artist sketches or something of that sort to stimulate the imagination ^_^.


RE: Nice news but sad
By Moishe on 12/5/2006 7:32:55 AM , Rating: 2
Geez man, if someone posts crap, it'll get voted down by anyone with a vote. Stop whining. The editors of DailyTech are people too and have just as much right to vote and hold their own opinions.


RE: Nice news but sad
By Hypernova on 12/5/2006 4:24:04 AM , Rating: 2
If there's one thing Apollo programme taught me on whether something is possible it's that IT'S NEVER THE TECHNOLOGY THAT MATTERS. All we need is commitment to the goal. If we really wanted to we could be on the moon by next Xmas. It's simply a matter of do the politicians want to and would the bean counters pass the budget.


RE: Nice news but sad
By FITCamaro on 12/5/2006 7:09:12 AM , Rating: 4
Yes....I feel oppressed by "dictator" Bush every day.....

I could write a novel on this but I'll keep it short.

Bush isn't perfect, neither was Clinton. He was handed the presidency as the economy slowed from Clintons watch and then faced the hardest thing since WW2. He's done alright. Don't agree with everything he's done, but thats inevitable. Get over your little fantasy of Bush is Hitler.

If we were prosecuted for free speech you'd be in jail now.

Big Brother is necessary and not any worse than what any other nation does. I've had handcuffs on (briefly) as a result of it and still find it needed and perfectly acceptable.

Do you vote in every single election there is? Sometimes you have to work. Yes its a problem that a lot of people don't vote but as long as the ones that don't vote don't bitch about who the leader is, I don't feel sorry for them. You didn't care when it was voting time so you can't care now.

For obesity and education, blame the parents. It's not the governments fault parents don't teach their kids to take care of themselves or to value education and do their fing homework.

And NASA does the best it can with the money it has. I love the space program and thinks its appalling at how much their budget has been cut. Clinton started it on its way to where it is now and the public largely doesn't care so politicians don't see a reason to either. It doesn't get them elected to support NASA.

Get over your little liberal attitude.


RE: Nice news but sad
By encryptkeeper on 12/5/06, Rating: -1
RE: Nice news but sad
By AxemanFU on 12/5/06, Rating: 0
RE: Nice news but sad
By encryptkeeper on 12/5/06, Rating: -1
RE: Nice news but sad
By Goty on 12/5/2006 10:48:07 AM , Rating: 3
Yep, they showed us. Got the senate majority by a whole seat. Damn, I wi