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First branded "4G" device from U.S. carrier other than Sprint

Depending on your political leanings, T-Mobile is offering an opportunity to celebrate or forget the results of the mid-term election November 2 by releasing the MyTouch 4G the next day. The news comes via T-Mobile's Facebook page and confirms not only the launch date, but the destined-to-be-controversial moniker of the Android 2.2-powered device we previewed a few weeks ago. 

A quick recap of the MyTouch 4G's specs tells us that it boasts comparable hardware to other top-tier Android offerings, with a 1 GHz Snapdragon processor, 3.8" WVGA touchscreen, dual cameras (front-facing VGA and rear-facing 5-megapixel), and comes pre-loaded with an 8GB microSD card. What really sets it apart, though, is the fact that it is the second smartphone (first being the G2) that supports T-Mobile's high-speed HSPA+ network, which the carrier claims delivers "4G"-like speeds.

"Designed specifically to deliver today’s 4G speeds on T-Mobile’s rapidly expanding HSPA+ network, the myTouch 4G will offer customers blazing fast access to websites, applications, videos, downloads and more," T-Mobile said.

This claim is sure to infuriate the other carriers, particularly AT&T, which has had gripes with T-Mobile's "4G" claims in the past. "I think that companies need to be careful that they're not misleading customers by labeling HSPA+ as a 4G technology. We aren't labeling those technologies as 4G," AT&T Spokesperson Seth Bloom told DT in May.

In fact, HSPA+ is generally labeled as something closer to 3.5G, considering it is an upgrade to existing 3G technology, and not a true fourth-generation system like LTE, which all the major carriers plan to eventually utilize. One caveat: In an independent study conducted by PhoneScoop, T-Mobile's HSPA+ network held up against and, in some cases, outperformed Sprint/Clearwire's WiMax, generally accepted as 4G. The logic follows, then, that if Sprint can brand devices as "4G," so can T-Mobile.

The MyTouch 4G is exclusive to T-Mobile and will retail at $199.99 after a $50 mail-in-rebate (with a qualifying two-year contract). It will be available in white, black, red, and plum.

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Nobody has 4G now or anytime soon.
By kelmerp on 10/28/2010 9:18:48 AM , Rating: 2

Basically you need second-gen WiMax and second-gen LTE in order to be officially labelled as 4G. YEs, that is very very confusing for most people, but Sprint and AT&T can't really say anything since they are nowhere near 4G.

RE: Nobody has 4G now or anytime soon.
By mcnabney on 10/28/2010 9:28:31 AM , Rating: 1
That writer is an idiot and completely wrong.

To meet 4G standards, downstream speeds for high mobility should peak at 100Mbit/sec for high mobility and 1Gbits/sec for low mobility.

Considering that 3G was .75 to 4mbs, I am pretty confident that the jump to 4G isn't going to require 25-50x the bandwidth. In fact, the writer clearly doesn't know anything about the technology. Unless the government shuts down all television broadcasting and gives the spectrum to the wireless carriers for free I don't see a gigabit ever being delivered wirelessly. That kind of bandwidth requires a hell of a lot of spectrum.

By Motley on 10/28/2010 10:38:07 AM , Rating: 2
You are obviously short sighted and don't fully understand the technology very well.

RE: Nobody has 4G now or anytime soon.
By sprockkets on 10/28/2010 3:06:02 PM , Rating: 2
That writer is an idiot and completely wrong.

So, we have the actual fact of 4G is defined as such correctly by Jason Mick , vs. your gut feeling as to it being wrong.

That's nice. What other things you think are wrong based on your gut?

By JakLee on 10/28/2010 4:34:52 PM , Rating: 2
That's nice. What other things you think are wrong based on your gut?

Not sure about you, but that burrito I ate for lunch is seeming kinda wrong about now.... and my gut agrees!

It can beat Sprint...
By mcnabney on 10/28/10, Rating: 0
RE: It can beat Sprint...
By seamonkey79 on 10/28/2010 9:23:08 AM , Rating: 1
But but but... If you're standing in that two square foot area where you DO get signal, think of how much cooler you'll be because you can claim you're on 4G because your phone's icon says 4G!!!!

RE: It can beat Sprint...
By mcnabney on 10/28/2010 9:31:40 AM , Rating: 2
Well, to be fair, the sweet spot is a little bigger. You just need to be within a mile of the tower and nothing like a building, a wall, or a hill can get in the way of the signal.

RE: It can beat Sprint...
By TheRequiem on 10/28/2010 1:42:16 PM , Rating: 3
Your all forgetting the simple fact that these are relatively new technologies that haven't launched yet or just barely launched. Sprint's 4G network for example, is located mostly in the hearts of major cities and that is where you will get good coverage... not out in the middle of the woods 10 miles out of rural land, hello... I know this to be the fact because I travel and I use 4G. I also live in Las Vegas, NV and I have consistently seen very good performance from point A to point B across the city and it's in fact faster then any other network here and by an aggressive margin... to call a 4G network "pathetic" is ridiculous, solely based on the simple fact that it's the fastest network available right now, lol. Verizon's 4G network is expected to be in the exact same range of speed as Sprint's and they supposedly won't offer unlimited 4G. So don't be fooled.

Another thing I have a problem with, is that ever since the ITU-R came out and said that WiMAX Advanced and LTE Advanced are the only true 4G network's is also a contradiction of the technology itself. WiMAX and LTE are Fourth Generation Technologies, period, end of story. I don't care about the ITU-R's poor definition system of wireless technologies. Here in the U.S., they are 4G technologies and will progress in delivering higher-end spec's as they grow, but it will still all be 4G technology, there is nothing to argue here.

T-Mobile's branding of HSPA+ as "4G" is simply wrong and a slap in the face for consumer's who don't know the difference. As Sprint's, Verizon's and AT&T's 4G grow into factual tested speeds of 100mbps+, T-Mobile's 4G will be limited to a "theoretical" 30 - 40mbps....

RE: It can beat Sprint...
By StormyKnight on 10/28/2010 4:59:05 PM , Rating: 3
Verizon's LTE under ideal conditions is supposed to be 37.5MB/s peak. Under real world conditions, it will most likely be half that at best, or about 500% faster than 3G.

I'd touch that body...
By quiksilvr on 10/28/2010 9:04:36 AM , Rating: 3
...Wait what is this article about?

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