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If Mobile Safari crashes on me one more time...

My Mobile Safari Woes

I've always had my eye on Apple's iPhone, but have resisted the temptation to actually purchase one. I have a rather cheap LG phone for my personal use and a relatively reasonable rate plan with 1,000 minute per month -- making the move to the iPhone wasn't exactly what I considered to be sound financial move for my needs.

So I went to the next best thing that would suit me: an iPod touch. I currently have in my possession a 32GB iPod touch 2G that I carry everywhere with me -- a device that my fiancé thinks I probably spend too much time with. I love everything from the built-in speaker, to the slim and light profile, to the dozens of apps that I have downloaded from the Apple App Store, to the gorgeous 3.5" display.

I use it my car, when I'm on an airplane, I use it to look up important information on the go, I use it as my sole internet device when I'm lounging around the house, and in other places that shall remain nameless...

But there is one thing that irritates the hell out of me about the iPod touch and its iPhone brother. It's not the lack of copy and paste (although I want it, I've learned to just live without it) and it's not the lack of flash support -- it's the awful Mobile Safari web browser. If I had a dollar for every time that Safari has crashed on me, I could probably have bought another iPod touch 2G to give to my fiancé for Christmas.

Mobile Safari shows no mercy and will crash on me at the most inopportune time at random. There's no specific pattern to the crashes, it just chooses to do so whenever it wants. I could have one tab open and a relatively simple site like eBay or Craigslist and it will crash. I could be browsing my favorite car forum like The Car Lounge which is mostly text-based and watch Safari crash in the most polite way: by simply fading to black and kicking me back to the Home screen.

Mobile Safari has another, more devilish side (from my own personal experience) that burns me up even more. About once a week, Mobile Safari will decide to crash harder than Billy Joel into the side of a house. It will crash as usual and then lose the cookies for all 100+ sites I visit. And you know what that means; I must re-enter my login/passwords and preferences for every single site after the crash.

Using “the Google” to search for help on the topic has done nothing to solve my problems, because most people seem to hate Mobile Safari with a passion due to the crashes. I've tried everything from doing a full restore to trying to run my iPod touch in its most base form with no third-party applications installed to no avail.

I was, however, delighted to see that Apple decided to tackle Safari issues with its latest 2.2 firmware update. The update proclaimed that it "Improved stability and performance of Safari." Ummm, nope! Same crashing problems.

Which leads me to this -- in the words of Kennan Thompson of Saturday Night Live, "FIX IT!



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Good luck with that
By amanojaku on 11/27/2008 11:35:00 AM , Rating: 3
When I had my G4 Mac I loved its sexy design, capable hardware and (if you know where to look) diverse software library. The one black eye to the OS is the damn built-in browser. I HATE Safari. It seems limited compared to Firefox and IE, but most importantly it ain't stable. I thought Firefox 2 was bad with its memory leaks (thank you, 3!!!) I thought IE was bad with its faulty ActiveX controls. Safari doesn't stay up long enough to HAVE those problems. MacOS, Windows, it doesn't matter. Apple needs to get Firefox on there. Or Opera.




RE: Good luck with that
By omnicronx on 11/27/2008 12:25:36 PM , Rating: 2
Anyone can download Firefox if they wish, the same as you can on windows. A mobile OS that crashes all the time is the issue, as it is the only choice available for the iPhone.


RE: Good luck with that
By mmntech on 11/27/2008 3:57:59 PM , Rating: 2
I don't use Safari on my Mac. I use Firefox and I have since day one. It's just a better browser. I noticed mobile Safari on my iPhone 3G did crash occasionally with Firmware 2.1 but I haven't noticed any issues with 2.2.

I've found that the iPhone does tend to have a mind of its own. I had terrible call dropping issues, which were solved by simply resetting the network under settings. It still has some quirks that Apple needs to iron out.


RE: Good luck with that
By robinthakur on 12/3/2008 11:34:37 AM , Rating: 2
I dare say that things have moved on a tad since your G4 days. Back in those days, its worth pointing out that IE5-6 rendered most XHTML/CSS pages incorrectly whilst Safari was way more accurate. For that reason alone and the unquantifiable heaches that IE gave me back in the version 6 days for unapologetic compatibility and bugs in the rendering of pages I cannot completely bash Safari, I'm afraid.

I use safari now from time to time on Leopard and on Windows Vista at home when I'm testing sites, and don't experience the crashing you mention, it seems as stable as IE 7/8 beta. Far from a black eye, I still use Safari when I want to see how a page *should* look without vendor innacuracies creeping in. The Black eye, at least in its Windows version is the way its covertly installed along with the Mobile-Me control panel, in my mind.

Bottom line is that if it were my only option I wouldn't complain too much.


Not Normal
By JazzMang on 11/28/2008 5:04:41 PM , Rating: 2
Hmmm, I find this puzzling. While my family's ipod touches (2 1G 16GBs and 2 2G 32 and 16GBs) suffer from the occaisional safari crash, I have never seen it crash and burn in a manner in which you describe.

I assume you have done a clean restore of the ipod firmware via recovery mode, so barring any other weirdness, I'd venture to say you have a defective unit!

You may be surprised!




RE: Not Normal
By HrilL on 12/2/2008 2:54:36 PM , Rating: 2
I have the iPhone and it crashes so much. Before 2.2 it crashed on almost every other use. After 2.2 it is a lot better but still crashes at random. Even more so when you have music playing. If you can't listen to music and brows on a phone that is designed to do that then apple needs to fix something. Playing music definitely makes it crash more I'd say 10 times more is a safe bet.


RE: Not Normal
By robinthakur on 12/3/2008 11:24:43 AM , Rating: 2
I'm not disputing what you're saying but I browse while listening to music every day for about an hour on my commute and whilst safari does crash periodically, it certainly isn't a regular occurence as you seem to be experiencing, and the iPhone 3G itself has only crashed once since I got it on release. Some pages crash more than others (like IGN which is treacle slow even on my desktop) I'd reset it to factory and restore if I were you or better yet, get Apple to swap it over if this doesn't help.


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