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Mozilla plans on bringing "freedom to hundreds of millions", at the competitions expense -- or die trying.  (Source: Paramount Pictures)
Mozilla deploys messaging subsidiary to take on instant messaging, email markets

The non-profit Mozilla Foundation has made great inroads in the browser war.  As Microsoft exchanges heated words with it, Mozilla's Firefox browser has slowly been nibbling away at Internet Explorer's marketshare lead.  With the release of Firefox 3.0 impending and Internet Explorer 8 only on the distant horizon, it seems a very happy time for Mozilla.  Mozilla today announced more good news -- it's having a baby.

Mozilla has just launched a child company, Mozilla Messaging.  This new company will take up the development of Thunderbird 3.0 to coincide with the release of Firefox 3.0.  Being a separate entity, according to the Mozilla Messaging team, will allow them to better focus their efforts in creating a terrific email client to compete with Microsoft's Outlook client, and IBM's Lotus Notes, another popular business email client.  The new version of Thunderbird will feature integrated calendars with greatly expanded functionality, improved searches, and many other user interface and performance improvements. 

The small staff of Mozilla Messaging hopes to do big things, with the help of open-source developers around the world.  David Ascher, CEO, Mozilla Messaging, emphasizes that Mozilla Messaging intends to stay true to its open-source roots, stating, "We're excited to renew the focus of our open source community on the future of Thunderbird.  Every one of us is committed to building a great email product that people will love to use and that serves as the foundation for choice in a critical area of Internet software."

The Mozilla Foundation fully owns Mozilla Messaging.  Its board of directors includes a couple of former Mozilla Foundation executives, consisting of David Ascher, CEO, Mozilla Messaging; Christopher Beard, VP and General Manager, Mozilla Labs; and Marten Mickos, CEO of open source database vendor MySQL AB.

Marten Mickos, CEO of MySQL AB, the only outsider is extremely enthusiastic about the venture, stating, "Thunderbird email is a vital part of the Mozilla project which brings freedom to hundreds of millions of internet users worldwide.  By joining the board of Mozilla Messaging, I hope to help the world communicate better."

In a separate press release that is an interview transcript with David Ascher, Mr. Ascher hints that Mozilla may step into the instant messaging world.  He states,  "[The company is named] Mozilla Messaging, Inc., to reflect both that this is a Mozilla company, and that we’re focusing on the Internet messaging and communications space as a whole, not just email."

Mozilla Messaging is fully owned by the Mozilla Foundation.  For an interesting read on the field of unified messaging, a pertinent topic, please refer to DailyTech's analysis of the state of unified messaging today.


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Firefox.
By jadeskye on 2/19/2008 3:10:16 PM , Rating: 5
If it's half as good as their browser i'll switch from AIM overnight.




RE: Firefox.
By noxipoo on 2/19/2008 3:13:05 PM , Rating: 2
i use miranda for aim, msn and gtalk. tiny and fast.


RE: Firefox.
By GoodBytes on 2/19/2008 4:00:59 PM , Rating: 2
Trillian FTW... ok FINE! Trillian Astra (coming 2000-never) FTW!


RE: Firefox.
By eye smite on 2/19/2008 6:42:59 PM , Rating: 5
Trillian here as well since 2002. I'll give this a shot though, sounds like it might be worthwhile. If they put the same effort into it they have their browser, I'm sure it will be.


RE: Firefox.
By StevoLincolnite on 2/19/2008 9:45:57 PM , Rating: 2
I don't like Trillian, somehow it combined me and my friends, friend lists together, and now I get messages all the time asking "Who are you?".


RE: Firefox.
By CheesePoofs on 2/19/2008 4:27:50 PM , Rating: 5
Pidgin!! :)


RE: Firefox.
By phaxmohdem on 2/19/2008 6:06:31 PM , Rating: 3
You linux crazies and your birds :) (I <3 Ubuntu + Pidgin BTW)

On a more nostalgic note... I still remember watching my dad "messege" my deaf aunt on her TDD, using the family IBM PC-AT. You could watch individual characters pop up as fast as the lil 2400 baud modem could crank em out.


RE: Firefox.
By Zoomer on 2/20/2008 5:49:25 PM , Rating: 2
I somehow doubt anyone can out-type the Tx/Rx abilities of even a 2400 baud modem. That's at least 2400 bits/s, or 300 Bps.


RE: Firefox.
By GoodRevrnd on 2/19/2008 10:08:38 PM , Rating: 2
I have to whole-heartedly agree that Pidgin takes a crap (pun intended) on all the other IM clients.


RE: Firefox.
By Kougar on 2/19/2008 4:59:35 PM , Rating: 3
I couldn't stand Miranda's interface for long. Pidgin was great, but it simply doesn't offer multimedia support and used outdated IM protocols so file transfers between Pidgin users didn't often work or work smoothly outside of AIM. Trillian was also great, but file transfers with other Pidgin users still sometimes crashes it anyway. And as far as gAIM goes... well that is what turned into Pidgin.

I regret ever using MSN Messenger, but ICQ isn't really any better, not to mention there are not many good AIM clients left out there these days. Maybe I should just do myself a favor and stick to using Google Chat from my Gmail window...


RE: Firefox.
By noxipoo on 2/19/2008 8:51:53 PM , Rating: 3
You can skin miranda's interface, theres tons of addons and skins. It's meant to be plain jane with practically no features base.


RE: Firefox.
By Master Kenobi (blog) on 2/19/2008 3:15:48 PM , Rating: 3
Yea but if its like Thunderbird count me out. It was easy as pie to switch TO Thunderbird from another email client. However trying to switch FROM Thunderbird to another client was a pain in the arse. I switched to outlook 2007 and haven't looked back. Thunderbird is lousy in its current form, and Lotus is even worse. Maybe this will allow Thunderbird to finally improve over the old Netscape mail client.


RE: Firefox.
By jadeskye on 2/19/2008 3:18:18 PM , Rating: 2
thats a good point. i'm in desperate need to get a new email client as it is. my old version of outlook (2000 i think) is horrible when it comes to spam filtering. maybe mozilla will come through for us.


RE: Firefox.
By Nick5324 on 2/19/2008 4:31:32 PM , Rating: 3
I currently use Thunderbird, but tried out Windows Live Mail and thought it was a good alternative. It's free, give it a shot and see if you prefer it to Outlook 2000.

http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview


RE: Firefox.
By murphyslabrat on 2/20/2008 3:19:16 PM , Rating: 2
While you're looking at free webmail, try http://www.gmail.com (same as http://mail.google.com )


RE: Firefox.
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 2/19/2008 5:58:59 PM , Rating: 2
Have you found an easy way to export email messages from Thunderbird? I shouldn't have a problem with my IMAP accounts, but my Yahoo is POP and I have about two years or emails I'd like to export to another client.


RE: Firefox.
By kmmatney on 2/19/2008 8:09:24 PM , Rating: 2
Whoops - accidently rated you down instead or replying..sorry.

Heck - even exporting Thunderbird messages and re-inporting them into a new thnderbird installation is a pain in the rear. I reformatted and reinstalled windows and I remember spending hours trying to figure out how to get my emails back into thunderbird. How do they expect people to backup their email?


RE: Firefox.
By KristopherKubicki (blog) on 2/19/2008 10:09:48 PM , Rating: 2
Commenting nixes your votes for that article :)

I just tried Thunderbird going from Outlook for the first time -- it didn't work as well as I had hoped. I don't doubt that one day it will be the client of choice. I'm just glad someone is putting some pressure on MS to streamline rather than featurebloat


RE: Firefox.
By joemoedee on 2/20/2008 7:39:46 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
I just tried Thunderbird going from Outlook for the first time -- it didn't work as well as I had hoped. I don't doubt that one day it will be the client of choice. I'm just glad someone is putting some pressure on MS to streamline rather than featurebloat


I've tried the same, with similar results. Outlook 2007 is keeping me on board for the meantime. I too hope for more solid competition to Outlook, if not for price alone.


RE: Firefox.
By Oregonian2 on 2/19/2008 8:10:51 PM , Rating: 2
Isn't it the responsibility of the other programs to do the importing?

I've a zillion years of email in Thunderbird (from back in the Netscape ages). It's to about 8-GB or so. Probably not switching any time soon. :-)

P.S. - But it's been working fine for me so I have no reason to switch anyway.