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  (Source: CNET)
Accuses iTunes Developer of Adopting Distribution Practices Similar to Malware

Mozilla CEO John Lilly has a beef with Apple, which he made clear yesterday after he blasted the company on its decision to package its Safari web browser with the latest version of iTunes and Quicktime.

Specifically, Lilly laments Apple’s decision to bundle Safari in a way that users have to opt-out of its installation during an otherwise routine upgrade to iTunes. Pushing Safari on users who may not understand what they’re doing “undermines the trust relationship great companies have with their customers,” writes Lilly, “and that’s bad — not just for Apple, but for the security of the whole Web.”

He refers to Apple’s decision to include Safari in the latest batch of updates issued to Windows iTunes users via Apple Software Update, which lists Safari as a program requiring updates regardless of whether it’s installed or not. As such, claims Lilly, unsuspecting users are lead to install the browser when they might not be inclined to do so: “Apple has made it incredibly easy — the default, even — for users to install ride along software that they didn’t ask for, and maybe didn’t want. This is wrong, and borders on malware distribution practices.”

Apple’s decision to mimic the “malware distribution practice” – where spyware is bundled with a program’s installer for various reasons, usually to recoup development costs – is a problem because “software makers are trying to get users to trust [them] on updates.” When presented with Apple Update (or similar updaters from Java or Adobe), most users will simply click the “install all items” button, “which means that they’ve now installed a completely new piece of software, quite possibly completely unintentionally.”

“It’s wrong because it undermines the trust that we’re all trying to build with users,” writes Lilly, “because it means that an update isn’t just an update … maybe [it’s] something more,” ultimately undermining “the safety of users on the web by eroding that relationship. It’s a bad practice and should stop.”

Critics at The Register point out that bundling Safari may also erode Firefox’s market share, by using the power of defaults to force another browser on users – and going so far as to speculate that Safari could usurp the millions of dollars of search engine royalties that Google pays the Mozilla Foundation . In a follow-up posted Sunday evening, Lilly disclaimed that sentiment, noting “unequivocally” that “it isn’t about competition.”

“To the contrary: competition is good — necessary, actually … as a consumer, I want more competition,” wrote Lilly. “Firefox is better because there’s competition from Safari and others — that’s great, because it means that normal people can find the software that works best for them and make their own choices.”

Apple promised last summer that it would use iTunes to help crack Safari’s sagging 5 percent market share, with Steve Jobs noting that Apple receives more than 500,000 download requests per day for the Windows version of iTunes.



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By villageidiot111 on 3/24/2008 8:02:15 PM , Rating: 5
I currently have itunes installed on my computer, no other apple programs. Even though itunes wasn't even currently running, and update window popped up telling me that apple has new great software, safari, to offer me. It was extremely annoying and intrusive. If I had been playing a game it probably would have minimized the game or at least caused temporary lag.

I have itunes because I have an ipod. I didn't download it so that apple could start giving me spam popups for their other products.

If this happens again I will certainly seek out alternative programs.




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By onwisconsin on 3/24/2008 8:05:14 PM , Rating: 4
I have Quicktime installed and was getting that same popup. I haven't seen it since I turned off "Check for updates automatically" under Quicktime preferences. Otherwise it was asking to install Safari every day I booted my computer.


RE: popup
By dr4gon on 3/24/2008 8:20:43 PM , Rating: 5
I saw this yesterday and was like wtf .... pretty ridiculous of apple to stoop this low and bug the hell out of everyone.


RE: popup
By UNCjigga on 3/25/2008 12:40:19 PM , Rating: 4
Seriously, this is a very stupid move by Apple and quite serious when you consider the DOJ/antitrust implications. iTunes is a monopoly tied to Apple hardware and is being prosecuted as such in certain countries (France, EU?) Why would Apple want to steal out of Microsoft's browser integration playbook when we all know it leads to trouble with the DOJ? The update popup sure pissed me off and I uninstalled iTunes/Quicktime out of everything but my main music rig.


RE: popup
By Ryanman on 3/25/2008 2:59:31 PM , Rating: 2
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with Steve Jobs noting that Apple receives more than 500,000 download requests per day for the Windows version of iTunes


Funny, considering that nearly all of those are people trying to reinstally Apple's picky software. Great cause now they throw malware in there too!


RE: popup
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 3/24/2008 8:22:12 PM , Rating: 5
Your first mistake was installing Quicktime in the first place. If you MUST use Quicktime, install Quicktime Alternative -- it has just the basics and none of the bloat.


RE: popup
By Alexstarfire on 3/24/2008 8:34:22 PM , Rating: 5
Yep, QuickTime Alternative and RealMedia Alternative are God sends. I don't know what I'd do without them.


RE: popup
By StevoLincolnite on 3/25/2008 5:13:18 AM , Rating: 1
Probably VLC with a few Codec packs?


RE: popup
By Inkjammer on 3/24/2008 8:39:30 PM , Rating: 5
I've long held a beef against Quicktime.

Why? Because Apple, in its infinite wisdom, decided years ago such basic features as playing videos full screen was such a luxury that you should have to purchase the right to do so. Paying for just for the right to play a video full screen? I'd love to come up with some sort of witty metaphor as to how Apple's full screen "feature" relates to blah blah blah, but... well, I just can't think of anything that stupid to compare it to.


RE: popup
By ImSpartacus on 3/24/2008 9:13:00 PM , Rating: 5
Well, fullscreen is like a Lexus, and standard view is like a Chevy, lol.


RE: popup
By Xodus Maximus on 3/24/2008 11:06:10 PM , Rating: 3
Hey be careful, that is what we call "Pirks Bait".

Don't hold it in your hand, just place on the ground and step away, he'll devour anything in the vicinity when he sees it...

Its best to never have any with you ever again, the consequences just aren't worth it ;)


RE: popup
By jvillaro on 3/25/2008 9:23:27 PM , Rating: 2
JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA
Oh noooo here comes Sir Pirks of Appleshire, all of us wintel sheeps must run in fear! (Or drive away in our chevys)


RE: popup
By headbox on 3/25/08, Rating: 0
RE: popup
By afkrotch on 3/25/2008 4:21:40 AM , Rating: 4
Ya, .mov files are about as standard as .rm files. Quicktime the standard format. Ha, that makes me laugh.

Ever heard of mpeg? It's on cds, svcds, dvds, digital tv, hd-dvd, blu-ray, etc.

Every new version of Quicktime that comes out adds more support for the various standards of mpeg and does little or nothing for support of .mov.


RE: popup
By roadrun777 on 3/25/2008 6:40:51 AM , Rating: 3
Not to mention MKV files, the most excellent container file. You can encode almost any type of video or audio compression into an MKV file, along with embedded subtitles, alternate language tracks and even menus. All contained in one simple file.
I stopped using mov files a long time ago except for my camera which only stores in mov format (which I curse the developer for).


RE: popup
By wien on 3/25/2008 5:14:44 AM , Rating: 5
But I don't want all that. And I definitely don't want to pay for all that in order to gain basic full-screen capabilities.


RE: popup
By FITCamaro on 3/25/2008 8:52:55 AM , Rating: 5
Exactly. Windows Media Player offers the ability to play full screen. Why shouldn't Quicktime? Over the years I've grown to hate once simple programs. Quicktime used to be small and light. Same with Adobe Reader. Now both are a plague upon your computer. I've come to view them as similar to AIM.

As far as iTunes, don't own an iPod and never will. Nor will I be told what I can do with things that I purchase.


RE: popup
By oTAL (blog) on 3/26/2008 8:02:49 AM , Rating: 2
Try Foxit PDF Reader. It's awesome.
I still have Adobe's reader installed (for exactly the same reason I have IE7) but Foxit has been my default PDF reader for some time.


RE: popup
By Jack Ripoff on 3/25/2008 1:14:11 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
"Get your facts straight. Quicktime Pro is a very powerful media conversion tool. You can even do basic video editing with it. There are plugins that allow interactively viewing 3D models. This is not simply a media player, and that's why quicktime is the standard format in the entertainment industry."


Free very powerful media conversion tool: http://www.ffmpeg.org/

Free basic video editor: http://avidemux.sf.net/