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269,000 Xbox 360 HD DVD drives sold to date in North America

Buried in November’s NPD video game sales data is an interesting bit regarding the make-up of HD DVD hardware owners. According to the tracking firm, the Xbox 360 HD DVD add-on drive accessory has sold a collective 269,000 units in the U.S., making for a 3.4 percent attach rate with the console.

Microsoft does not openly share its sales figures on its accessories, though a company representative did say in June that it had reached 155,000 units sold – showing a slow but steady adoption rate of the HD DVD add-on.

The HD DVD Promotional Group announced in November that it had sold more than 750,000 HD DVD players, including the Xbox 360 accessory, in North America.

The updated numbers from NPD, if accurate, show that Xbox 360 owners with the HD DVD drive account for more than one-third of all hardware owners of the high-definition format.

On the other hand, while standalone players are the majority of HD DVD hardware, it is the gaming console that is leading the way for Blu-ray Disc players. According to data released earlier this month, around 74 percent of all Blu-ray Disc players in North America are PlayStation 3 consoles.

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Whats this mean?
By Maximilian on 12/16/2007 3:25:56 AM , Rating: 2
Is this good or bad for hd dvd?




RE: Whats this mean?
By Manch on 12/16/2007 3:44:40 AM , Rating: 2
I think it is. It's one of the cheaper ways to get into HD movies. Plus it means if people are buying them it's because they want an HD-DvD player.

Sony has effectively pushed the bluray player into the market with their PS3 and it's working for them. It's starting to pay out for them too.

I'm waiting still. I only have a 720p projector so there is no need for me to get an HD player. My DVD player upconverts and I think it looks great as it is.


RE: Whats this mean?
By Jedi2155 on 12/16/07, Rating: -1
RE: Whats this mean?
By soydios on 12/16/2007 4:11:48 AM , Rating: 4
1080i doesn't cut it for you?


RE: Whats this mean?
By Jedi2155 on 12/28/2007 5:46:18 AM , Rating: 2
Nope....I actually sit about 6 feet from my 50" plasma....I also use to use a 15" LCD laptop with 1600x1200 resolution. I love my resolution.


RE: Whats this mean?
By daftrok on 12/16/07, Rating: -1
RE: Whats this mean?
By TMV192 on 12/16/2007 12:04:34 PM , Rating: 1
what are you talking about?
"technically" 720P and 1080i are two different things, you're probably just confused because most 720P TVs can display 1080i


RE: Whats this mean?
By daftrok on 12/16/2007 12:16:01 PM , Rating: 2
Its 720p AND 1080i omg. The reason why he didn't want HD DVD PLAYERS (NOT the add-on) is because its 720p but its ALSO 1080i meaning if you plug it into a 1080p television with 1080i to 1080p conversion capabilities, you can have a close to true (and some times right on true) 1080p picture.


RE: Whats this mean?
By Pandamonium on 12/17/2007 3:37:18 AM , Rating: 4
720p displays (at least LCD based ones) can't display native 1080i video.

It's always been my understanding that 720p is 1280x720 resolution images for each frame, 1080i is 1920x1080 resolution images that update odd lines and even lines on every other frame, and 1080p is 1920x1080 resolution images that update each frame. Have I been mistaken or am I misunderstanding what you guys are talking about?


RE: Whats this mean?
By timmiser on 12/17/2007 4:53:12 AM , Rating: 2
You can have a 720p/1080i player that processes a 1080i signal but a 720p TV can't display 1080i or 1080p because of the native resolution of the TV.

Any TV that lists it's spec as 720p/1080i is actually incorrect. This was common early on but most TV manufactuers have corrected the specifications to reflect 720p only.

1080i/p is 1920x1080 and a 720p TV cannot output 1920x1080.


RE: Whats this mean?
By omnicronx on 12/17/2007 10:04:04 AM , Rating: 3
PLEASE.. lets stop arguing this. Counltess other articles have had the same debates. Almost any 720p tv is compatible with 1080i input, it just has to convert to 720p before it is displayed. As for the whole 1080i business, we already know its essentially the same as 1080p on current sets. Right now unless you spent tons of money on a TV that can handle 24hz, 1080i and p are practically identical.

Moral of the story is, if you like Sony buy BD, if you like toshiba, buy HD-DVD, but don't be giving others bad advice saying one is by far inferior than the other.


RE: Whats this mean?
By theapparition on 12/17/2007 12:27:46 PM , Rating: 3
Amen.

1080i/60 is the exact same thing as 1080p/30. Exact. Not close, no artififacts, but exact. 1080p/24 is something different, and is worthless unless you have a TV that supports 1080p/24 input (rare).
Most HDTV's are fixed resolution displays, meaning that some have 720 vertical pixels, and some have 1080 pixels. Obviously, sets with 720p have to interpolate the results to display 1080i/p resolution down to 720p. 1080 doesn't have to do this (but has to upconvert 720, so there is some loss if the origial picture is 720).
As for the technology, DLP/LCD/Plasma/LCOS all are progressive displays. They display pixels at once, and do not "scan". Because of this, all interlaced media is automatically converted to progressive. If the input source of interlace material is 60Hz, then the resultant picture will be displayed at progressive 30Hz. So for all those who think 1080i isn't "true HD", well, then go believe what you want. BTW, I have a bridge to sell in Brooklyn, but this is the "true" bridge title, not like those fakes out there.


RE: Whats this mean?
By afkrotch on 12/17/2007 1:04:12 PM , Rating: 1
720? 1080? Who cares? It all looks good. Just not as good as 2560x1600. :p


RE: Whats this mean?
By omnicronx on 12/17/2007 1:35:22 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
720? 1080? Who cares? It all looks good. Just not as good as 2560x1600. :p
sure it does, as only pc monitors have resolutions that high, and there are no too many of these over 30 inches I would have to say 720 would look almost exactly the same when watching movies on a 27 inch TV.

Just thought I'd give a stupid answer to a stupid question/statement.. just seemed fitting


RE: Whats this mean?
By timmiser on 12/18/2007 6:07:42 PM , Rating: 2
What device can capture digital video at that resolution?


RE: Whats this mean?
By Fallen Kell on 12/17/2007 4:33:20 PM , Rating: 2
Not as "rare" as you think. Sharp and Samsung both have several models which are 120Hz refresh sets which is the coup de grace of video output devices. Almost all major name brands have proper inverse telecine support (Panasonic, Philips, Sony, Sharp, Samsung) and have had them in sets for the last few years.


RE: Whats this mean?
By jconan on 12/16/2007 10:22:49 PM , Rating: 1
maybe you should consider getting a hybrid drive. they're out and you're not limited to hd-dvd or blu-ray. http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/lgs-hybrid-blu-...
and i think you do a search on pricegrabber for competitive pricing... for the price of the hybrid drive it's like getting 2 players for one and the quality depends on your software player and graphics card as well as your cpu


RE: Whats this mean?
By jconan on 12/16/2007 10:31:06 PM , Rating: 1
my mistake on that model, it's like 600 to 1k. However for the less expensive version LG Electronics GGCH20L it's around 300 to 390. http://www.tweaktown.com/news/8641/index.html


RE: Whats this mean?
By retrospooty on 12/17/2007 12:28:32 PM , Rating: 2