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AnandTech puts "Penryn" to the test

Intel’s quad-core Penryn processors are just a quarter away from launching, but the company already has plenty of samples floating around. Hardware analysis site AnandTech managed to snag a dual-core Wolfdale based Penryn processor clocked at 2.33 GHz to run a slew of tests. AnandTech puts the 2.33 GHz Wolfdale up against the Core 2 Duo E6550, similar to the previously released Wolfdale benchmarks by HKEPC.

DailyTech previously reported Intel’s Penryn receives upgrades to its L2 cache. In addition to the larger cache size, Penryn processors have a 24-way associative. Conroe and Kentsfield processors have a 16-way associative L2 cache. The cache enhancements reduce the overall latency of the L2 cache, taking off a single clock cycle, when compared to Conroe.

AnandTech computes an average performance increase of close to 5%, when compared to Conroe. The most notable performance boost is with DivX 6.6 using Xmpeg. With an unoptimized build of DivX 6.6, AnandTech observed a 10.5 percent performance boost. Wolfdale also shows notable performance improvements in 3D rendering applications such as Cinebench and Lightwave – 9.1 percent and 6.7 percent, respectively.

Gaming improvements are all over the place, ranging from 0.4 percent to 8.5 percent, in Oblivion and Lost Planet, respectively. However, none of the benchmarks ran were optimized for SSE4, which showed a 116 percent performance lead in DivX 6.6.

Intel slightly reduced power consumption with its 45nm fab process. Although idle power consumption between Wolfdale and Conroe are quite similar, Wolfdale sips 20 watts less power than Conroe under load.

With a new 45nm process, Wolfdale overclocks fairly well. AnandTech managed to raise the front-side bus to 460 MHz, bringing the clock speed up to 3.22 GHz.

Expect dual-core Wolfdale to show up in 2008, in Xeon and Core 2 Duo variants.


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Barcelona Where is it?
By jdun on 8/22/2007 2:48:16 PM , Rating: 1
Where is AMD's Barcelona numbers because Intel will roll over them two months from now.




RE: Barcelona Where is it?
By Martimus on 8/22/2007 3:05:19 PM , Rating: 4
The benchmarks show that Penryn isn't much better than Conroe. (On average ~5%) So if Penryn would roll over Barcelona, so would Conroe. After seeing these benchmarks, I am pretty confident that Barcelona will be competitive to Penryn. I am not really worried anymore that Intel will have a vastly superior chip to Barcelona by the time it is released.


RE: Barcelona Where is it?
By Martimus on 8/22/07, Rating: 0
RE: Barcelona Where is it?
By johnsonx on 8/22/2007 10:03:30 PM , Rating: 1
I've seen that a couple of times too... The moment I click 'Post', it shows up as a 1 rather than a 2. No one could possibly have read it that fast and clicked 'Not Worth Reading'. Besides, ALL of my posts are Worth Reading!


RE: Barcelona Where is it?
By TomZ on 8/22/2007 10:28:15 PM , Rating: 1
I've noticed that once before, too.


RE: Barcelona Where is it?
By johnsonx on 8/23/2007 7:47:00 PM , Rating: 1
You've only noticed ALL my posts are worth reading once? You should notice it EACH AND EVERY TIME!


RE: Barcelona Where is it?
By wordsworm on 8/23/2007 8:06:17 AM , Rating: 2
Yeah, I've had that happen to me.


RE: Barcelona Where is it?
By wordsworm on 8/23/2007 8:09:48 AM , Rating: 2
I tried to rate you up Martimus... but it didn't get recorded for some reason. I hit 'worth reading', but your 0 stayed at 0. I think there's a bug at DailyTech. I guess the rating system isn't reliable. They should look into it.


RE: Barcelona Where is it?
By Martimus on 8/23/2007 10:35:15 AM , Rating: 2
It's not really a problem for me. I just thought it was strange, and felt like mentioning it. Thank you for trying to help though.


RE: Barcelona Where is it?
By MrBungle123 on 8/22/2007 3:24:57 PM , Rating: 2
Except Intel already has a vastly superior chip, and given AMD's recent history of price cut after price cut after loudmouth claim after delay after paper launch after more loudmouth clams, you should be worried.

It's time for AMD to put up or shut up. Their chip is supposed to drop in a couple weeks and we still haven't seen any concrete numbers (the dailytech cinebench test as the only exception) and Intel is already letting people run tests on their chips that won't be out for a couple months. I'm starting to think that barcelona will be another HD 2900, yeah it will be quick, but it won't be earth shatteringly fast. I'm guessing it's something that would have been competitive a year ago when conroe launched, I'm thinking it will end up being vanilla a bunch of hype around something we've seen before... except in this case about a year ago.


RE: Barcelona Where is it?
By Martimus on 8/22/2007 3:38:05 PM , Rating: 2
I'm also guessing that it will be about equal to Conroe, at similar speeds. But that should make it competitive with Penryn at similar speeds as well, if these benchmarks are any indication.

Either way, I am not upgrading my computer until next year when I get my taxes back, so I will be able to tell which platform to get by then. I have always liked getting AMD processors in the past, because I could get so much more for the money, but now Intel processors are also very cheap. We'll see which is the best buy in February when I have the cash to spend though.


RE: Barcelona Where is it?
By aguilpa1 on 8/23/2007 4:50:16 PM , Rating: 3
Barcelona has to be more than "competitive" to have a chance. Consider this, a Q6600 priced at $270 will easily overclock to 3.2Ghz and with some good cooling and a little more voltage boost will get it to 3.6Ghz and higher. The barcelona has to be able to "compete" with that to win any footing in the enthusiast section. I know this because my Q6600 is running smoothly at 3.5Ghz with only minor voltage bump. Benchmarks are through the roof and with two 8800GTX easily hits in the mid 17000's for 3Dmark06 scores.


RE: Barcelona Where is it?
By mrdelldude on 8/22/2007 3:29:00 PM , Rating: 1
The benchmarks will also change once BIOS have been tuned for this chip.

Also, Barcelona when released will "only" be around 2GHz. The mobile Penryn's will be launched at similar speeds.

This 2.33 sample is one of the slower versions of the Wolfdales. The dual-core Xeons will be up to 3.33 and the quads are upto 3.1GHz. The reviewer was able to take this early sample to 3.22GHz.

I don't think that Penryn will stomp all over Barcelona once AMD ramps up the speed. But by the time that happens we'll be seeing Dailytech's previews of Nehalem.


RE: Barcelona Where is it?
By MrBungle123 on 8/22/2007 3:37:34 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Also, Barcelona when released will "only" be around 2GHz. The mobile Penryn's will be launched at similar speeds.


except Barcelona is supposed to be AMD's "high end" server chip, moble Penryn and Barcelona aren't aimed at the same market.


RE: Barcelona Where is it?
By omnicronx on 8/22/2007 4:08:07 PM , Rating: 2
not only that barcelona is not the mainstream desktop variant, its the replacement for the opteron. When the agena core comes out expect max clocks of 2.6-2.8 ghz.


RE: Barcelona Where is it?
By Vanilla Thunder on 8/22/2007 5:07:17 PM , Rating: 4
Thank you. I get so tired of hearing the Barcelona vs C2D comparisons. Granted, the Agena is the desktop variant of the Barcelona, they are not the same chips. I just don't think it's fair to put the 2 up against each other(C2D vs. Barcelona) when they're aimed at such different markets. Also, it's all hypothetical until the benchmarks are released. So let's be patient, and see if AMD can't pull one from their arses. I for one, am hoping they do. It will benefit us, the end user, more than them falling on their faces.

Vanilla


RE: Barcelona Where is it?
By mrdelldude on 8/22/2007 5:18:29 PM , Rating: 2
My intended point was that server chips usually - exception being low voltage versions - are clocked higher than mobile chips. Obviously as they deal with higher loads - database, virtualization, etc - they are higher powered. The systems they are in are also typically are better ventilated than a laptop system - many times those system have quite a few redundant fans.

The launch of Barcelona - AMD's new flagship and halo chip - will be released at similar clock speeds as Intel's mobile chip.


RE: Barcelona Where is it?
By Brockway on 8/22/2007 5:38:21 PM , Rating: 2
Uhh, no. Server chips ship at lower clock speeds than desktop variants. Stability is way more important on a server. The ghz wars are over anyways, its all about performance per watt. Lets see those mobile chips run in a multi socket environment.


RE: Barcelona Where is it?
By mrdelldude on 8/22/2007 5:56:13 PM , Rating: 2
A) I was comparing clock-rates of the soon to be released Intel mobile vs Barcelona. I was not refering to desktop chips.

B) If I go to dell.com for example:

Laptop - fastest is a dual-core, which usually have a faster clock speeds than a quad core, at 2.33GHz for Intel and 2.0GHz for AMD.

Server - Quad Core from Intel 2.66GHz, dual core from Intel 3.0GHz, and dual core from AMD at 3.0 GHz.


RE: Barcelona Where is it?
By TomZ on 8/22/2007 7:17:08 PM , Rating: 2
Small correction, you can get 2.4GHz dual-core in Dell laptops, e.g., Inspiron 1720.