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All members of the Surface 2 family -- including the latest LTE model -- get a price cut

The Surface Pro 3 may be the latest and greatest tablet from Microsoft — and one that the boys from Redmond are pitching hard against the Apple MacBook Air family — but the company still has another line of tablets that are aimed at more price-conscious buyers. The Surface 2 family was first announced in September 2013 and is now getting an official $100 price cut.
WinBeta reports that all models of the Surface 2 are receiving the $100 price reduction, including the LTE model that was launched back in March. That means that pricing stacks up as follows:
  • 32GB Surface 2: $349
  • 64GB Surface 2: $449
  • 64GB Surface 2 LTE: $579 

Unlike its more expensive Surface Pro 3 brother, the Surface 2 features an ARM processor and runs the more limited Windows RT instead of Windows 8.1. And instead of the 12” 2160x1440 resolution display found on the Surface Pro 3, the Surface 2 makes do with a 10.6” 1080p display.
The new, lower pricing is currently in effect at the Microsoft Store and at authorized retailers like Best Buy.

Source: WinBeta

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By Manch on 8/25/2014 2:50:50 AM , Rating: 3
RT Tablet...even with that discount...nope

RE: RT=meh
By StevoLincolnite on 8/25/2014 3:45:24 AM , Rating: 3
Not to mention there is no Surface 3 with Windows RT, yet... But as far as I know, Microsoft hasn't announced anything on that front, which means RT could be dead in the water for future Surface devices.

On the other front you have the Lumia tablets which fills the void of Windows RT (I.E. The Lumia 2520.), however considering the insignificant amount of marketshare that RT has garnered thus far, general App support is fairly lacking currently, for now.
Although, to Microsoft's credit it's fast improving on that front, mostly thanks to Windows Phone and cross-platform development tools/support.

I think what really needs to kick RT to the next level is more OEM support and a knock-out hit, aka. The Lumia 520 effect, the interface is fantastic, the devices are solid, it's the 3rd parties that we are waiting to come to the table.

RE: RT=meh
By Arsynic on 8/25/2014 1:07:43 PM , Rating: 2
Not really. Surface 3 is aimed at the MacBook Pro market while the Surface 2 is still aimed at the tablet market. While I do agree that RT is a stop gap until Windows 9 comes, you're comparing apples to oranges.

RE: RT=meh
By GulWestfale on 8/25/2014 1:47:50 PM , Rating: 2
yeah i was just at the local staples here in montreal... surface tablet for 400 bucks? looks mighty tempting, until you realize it has an nVidia chip instead of an x86 CPU, so your windows tablet cannot actually run windows applications... what is the point?

RE: RT=meh
By Ktracho on 8/25/2014 5:19:11 PM , Rating: 4
My wife's iPad can't run Mac OSX apps either, yet she paid more for it than what the Surface 2 costs. Also, the display isn't as nice, either, though it's a couple years old at this point.

RE: RT=meh
By ritualm on 8/25/2014 6:16:59 PM , Rating: 2
you're comparing apples to oranges.

And that's what you're doing with the opener:
Surface 3 is aimed at the MacBook Pro

Surface 3 is aimed at Macbook Air, not Pro. The latest MS ads don't show the Pro at all - MBPs are far more powerful than the stuff used on most ultrabooks.

RE: RT=meh
By chizow on 8/25/2014 9:47:40 PM , Rating: 1
Surface (non-Pro) still has a chance once we see Threshold, which is supposed to unify all Windows platforms under the same NT core and also give developers the ability to write code once and then compile it to any of the Windows platforms, regardless of what ASIC its running on. Whether this applies to old x86 programs running on any of the platforms remains to be seen.

Personally, I think Microsoft should just ditch ARM in their non-Pro line and replace them with Intel Atom-based x86 parts. With the exception of the recent Tegra K1, Baytrail has shown to be very competitive with current Android ASICs in terms of both performance and power consumption. That would be the homerun Microsoft is looking for in the sub-$500 market to compete with the Androids and iPads in the marketplace.

As for the Surface Pro 3, just picked one up myself recently. Great device, anyone looking for something to replace their tablet and laptop should look into one. With student/teacher pricing at BestBuy or Microsoft, or with the 15% tech coupons at Staples, they're at a great price point. ~$600 for the entry-level 64GB model at BestBuy, hard to beat that.

RE: RT=meh
By Visual on 8/25/2014 5:27:11 AM , Rating: 3
As a porting exercise, RT was actually incredibly impressive.
If only MS had been more open with regards to developing for it, instead of forcing users to hack it, it'd have a significant amount of software by now too, and be very popular among certain tech circles.
And with a slight price decrease, it would have gained some decent market share too. Maybe. Well, if not the initial crappy resolution revision then at least the followups had some hope.
But no, MS decided they do not want any of that.

RE: RT=meh
By domboy on 8/25/2014 9:19:11 AM , Rating: 2
Agreed. The original Surface RT with the "jailbreak" is a really good device, but I'd have never bought it if the jailbreak hadn't been available (and I refuse to "upgrade" to RT 8.1 for the same reason).

It could have been even better without the API lockdown, because as you say, software developers could have ported over existing software. We might even have Java by now (enabling Minecraft, which is something I've seen a lot of people asking about in relation to Windows RT devices.)

RE: RT=meh
By corduroygt on 8/25/2014 8:49:33 AM , Rating: 4
It's a perfect tablet for moms and other computer illiterate people, just like the iPad they can't mess it up with viruses unlike regular Windows and all the apps they'd need (read: facebook) are on it. And it's a good deal cheaper and even has Office on it.

RE: RT=meh
By Meredith on 8/25/14, Rating: -1
RE: RT=meh
By chµck on 8/25/2014 9:55:18 AM , Rating: 3
I almost expected your comment to end with "and I make $9400 a month working from home! [suspicious URL]"

RE: RT=meh
By Meredith on 8/25/2014 9:59:39 AM , Rating: 2
Lol! Nope...but I do happen to office from home most of the time. I just lost it a little at the generalization.
I gave birth and my brains stayed intact! Imagine that.
As an additional aside I don't Facebook! I'm just the exception to every rule apparently.

RE: RT=meh
By Flunk on 8/25/2014 10:03:53 AM , Rating: 2
I think the whole Mom thing has become a generic thing because most of our (software developers) mothers are not very technical. I don't think you should take it personally, we don't really think that being a mother and being a technical person are mutually exclusive.

RE: RT=meh
By Spuke on 8/25/2014 3:42:09 PM , Rating: 2
I don't think you should take it personally
This. You are a RARE exception.

RE: RT=meh
By Reclaimer77 on 8/25/2014 4:19:51 PM , Rating: 2
I gave birth and my brains stayed intact!

Aaaaaand, I'm spent!

RE: RT=meh
By Reclaimer77 on 8/25/14, Rating: 0
RE: RT=meh
By name99 on 8/25/14, Rating: 0
RE: RT=meh
By corduroygt on 8/25/2014 4:45:16 PM , Rating: 2
(a) I personally could not care less about how well MS is doing as I don't work for them or own stock.
(b) It's much cheaper, bigger screen, better aspect ratio for watching movies, built in kickstand, Office, split-screen multitasking, real background processes.

RE: RT=meh
By Flunk on 8/25/2014 10:01:53 AM , Rating: 2
I want a copy of Windows Server for ARM, a box with a bunch of small ARM cores would make a great web or database server (or any other very parallel operation).

It would be easy for people running .NET web applications (like the company I work for) to roll out servers running Windows Server for ARM because the software is already architecture agnostic.

RE: RT=meh
By Reclaimer77 on 8/25/2014 10:22:29 AM , Rating: 1
RT is a fine OS (if you like Metro) but the app market is completely DEAD, so the entire ecosystem is dead as far as I'm concerned.

RT/Windows Phone looks like it's failing, hard.

Time to go back to the drawing board here.

RE: RT=meh
By retrospooty on 8/25/2014 2:06:39 PM , Rating: 2
"RT/Windows Phone looks like it's failing, hard. Time to go back to the drawing board here."

MS is really racking up the frequent flyer miles going back to the drawing board on thier mobile strategy. I have been hearing that same mantra from MS since Windows Mobile 5 back in 2005. This time it's different, because they actually do have a some really good products... But still no-one is buying it in any significant #'s. Not Surface pro, not RT, not WP phones either. Lucy, Charlie brown and the football comes to mind.

Hmm...this is getting tempting
By Wolfpup on 8/26/2014 1:56:39 PM , Rating: 2
I gave a Surface 1 to a parent who uses it as a desktop, and it's a really nice tablet. A 2 for $350 is pretty darned tempting. It doesn't have full Windows, but it does have a lot of tablet "apps", having a real desktop, browser, flash, and office area all awesome...

If there was a Marvel Unlimited app for Windows 8 I'd probably buy it for sure. As it is it's tempting, but I can't help but think for $300 more I can get a Surface Pro 3...

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