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Microsoft could develop its own rival to Apple's popular iPod

After continually getting its butt kicked by Apple in the portable media player market, Microsoft has finally wised up and could be considering its own branded entry according to BusinessWeek. Bill Gates once had a very different idea on what Microsoft's approach should be to the iPod dominated market. Here's a clip from a February 2005 ABC interview with Mr. Gates:

It's their, only their one music store, only their device. What we're doing is providing choices. So it's like the Apple computer versus the PC. With the PC you can buy from many companies so you get cheaper prices, you get more variety and here with music devices we're coming in with the same. But they're a strong leader in the space and I think as we gain share, people will be surprised.

Well, Bill's hopes didn't pan out and Apple saw its share of the music player market explode from 52% in 2004 to 67% in 2005. To combat this growing phenomena, Microsoft's only choice may be to put its marketing muscle behind its own entry into the already crowded field (which it helped to clutter).

The question though is how would Microsoft market such a device? The company could lump it under the Xbox brand, but that may limit its appeal and relegate it to being labeled as just a gadget for gamers. The company also runs the risk of alienating its partners that already use Windows Media technology on their portable media players. The stakes in this market are high, but Microsoft has money to burn as can be witnessed by the original Xbox. Will they do it? Your guess is as good as ours...



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hmm... lets see here...
By Saist on 1/27/2006 12:49:59 AM , Rating: 4
lets see here...

Creative, who for all practical purposes, owns the hardcore gaming scene with Audigy, has tried to tackle Ipod with it's Zen Devices.

Iriver has sent numerous devices with better interfaces, more supported file types, and better overall audio capabilities such as live recording, with lower prices per drive space, up against the Ipod.

Rio for all intents and purposes created the portable MP3 player market, hasn't been able to breach the ranks of Ipod.

Sony, known for making portable Tape-Decks and Portable CD-Decks a reality, has assulted Ipod with an updated Walkman AND with the Mighty Playstation Brand using the Playstation Portable.

So has Phillips.

So has Samsung.

Actually, the only major home entertainment corporation to not take on the Ipod I think has been Pioneer.

The point is, none of these companies have succeeded in taking down, or even taking on, the Apple Ipod.

... so why in the World does Microsoft think that they can?

I'm sorry, but it's not like Microsoft has a good history in home electronics either. It's Xbox console is still dead last in console sales worldwide. The Xbox 360 continues to get trashed by the Nintendo Gamecube in sales, in all 3 major markets (US, Europe, Japan). Yeah, part of that can be layed at the feet of Microsoft beta-testing the console last year.

And what about Microsoft's other branches outside of X86 Windows and X86 Windows Office? Smartphone? Still dead last. PDA? Still dead last.

Actually, the Home and Entertainment section of Microsoft has never, ever, posted a real profit, and only gets close when Microsoft can convince partners to delay payments in order to make events like the Halo2 launch seemingly succeed in making money.

Sorry, but the idea of Microsoft developing an Ipod Killer is to me as Ludicrous as Going Plaid in Hyperspace.




RE: hmm... lets see here...
By Xenoterranos on 1/27/2006 1:04:22 AM , Rating: 4
Dont forget, they did actually go plaid after all...

Wait and see, when all is said and done, they'll overshoot the iPod by a week and a half!


RE: hmm... lets see here...
By mxzrider2 on 1/27/2006 1:49:34 AM , Rating: 2
yeah too bad they arent dead last in either of the smartphone or pda categories. i am pretty sure palm thinks so too as it now too has a windows based pda. i in fact have a windows smart phone. out of all the "smart phones" the ones that are labeled as such are almost alsways windows based


RE: hmm... lets see here...
By modestninja on 1/27/2006 11:27:32 AM , Rating: 2
Well, if having a better player (see iRiver and Rio) didn't work, why not try an inferior (because how much does M$ know about portatble music devices) and throwing tons of money behind it (M$ has plenty of that).

Anyway, I think more competition is always better, but I don't see anyone matching the cachet that goes with the iPod name so all the little teenagers (and others who are still sheep at heart) will continue buying iPods because it's the cool thing to do, not because it's better suited to their needs.


RE: hmm... lets see here...
By Homerboy on 1/27/2006 12:15:37 PM , Rating: 2
Maybe becuase MS has billions of dollars to invest in such a project? Immense marketing dollars, not to mention the OS that 99% of the population utlizing portabel Mp3 players runs on their desktop? If your John Q public and your going to buy a mp3 player, are you even going to LOOK at something made by "Rio" or "Creative" other brands? Not at all. MS is a name that everyone knows and for the most part trusts.

Think about the majority of (ignorant) users. Not well informed geeks that visiti dailtech.com


By kilkennycat on 1/28/2006 9:44:58 PM , Rating: 4
It is vitally important for Microsoft's future viability to stay away from hardware products as much as possible. Any such product from M$$ is likely to be a design and reliability nightmare.

The Xbox360 is a hardware-design disaster. Only hardware-amateurs like Microsoft would be blind to the fact that high-density internal heatsinks on extremely-hot parts totally inaccessible for user-cleaning (without special tools and violating warranties)is not a very bright idea. This design-stupidity is compounded by the presence of dual-fans without any input filters. A guaranteed recipe for future flakiness, hard-fatalities and returns-for-exchange under extended warranties-- when those user-invisible heatsinks fill up with household gunk. Also those heatsinks jammed up right next to the DVD-drive are nicely cooking the drive internals -- another recipe for failure. Xbox360 discs become discolored after long periods of time in the machine --- I wonder why ? Going to 65nm (or 45nm)parts for the CPU and GPU would certainly help without changing the physical design of the product, but that's likely to be at least a year or two out........




By Enoch2001 on 1/28/2006 11:30:21 AM , Rating: 2
...just as long as it supports FLAC. In fact, if my iPod/iTunes supported FLAC I wouldn't even be looking elsewhere.




By sprockkets on 1/28/2006 5:00:35 PM , Rating: 1
Never will. Microsoft has their own lossless format. Why do you think they do not support any open source format in WMP? Because they all make their proprietary formats (which cost money) look bad.


By Xenoterranos on 1/27/2006 12:45:38 AM , Rating: 2
I hope for damn sure they try! I think windows CE is the best OS they have to offer, and if they could encorperate that, some video playback, maybe visualizations too...who knows. With enough storage space and a big enough screen, i'd buy pretty much anything I could still carry in my pocket. They should just develop a palmtop, sell it at a loss and rake in the music money via an iTunes clone.




Doesn't make sense...
By android1st on 1/28/2006 6:44:19 PM , Rating: 2
How much money is there in this market? Obviously it's a pride issue, and it's certainly spawning a new generation of Mac-heads, but seriously, it doesn't make sense for Microsoft to spend a ton of money on marketing to play catch-up at this stage of the game. I think the next big thing in consumer electronics is headed this way, and MS would be wasting its time chasing a market that has already peaked. Apple has shown that innovation is not its strong suit. MS' opportunity is in the next generation of consumer electronics. DRM content be scr*w*d, let's move on. MS should spend time getting podcasts and vlogs on WMP.




At the risk of stating the OBVIOUS...
By Beenthere on 1/27/06, Rating: -1
Microsloth
By AppaYipYip on 1/27/2006 8:42:57 AM , Rating: 2
Microsoft will try, and they will fail.


RE: Microsloth
By MrSmurf on 1/27/2006 10:11:51 AM , Rating: 2
I will concur with this statement.


RE: Microsloth
By NagoyaX on 1/27/2006 12:41:41 PM , Rating: 2
I dont know bout them failing...
I mean sure the 360 didnt do as well as most would have though, but seeing how much of the market PS3 has had I'm pretty suprised @ what M$ has done.
I got a 360 myself and im quite pleased with it. 90% chances are im gonna get a PS3 as well

My point is diversity is good. I dont personally have an Ipod but i got a creative zen, which will one day be replace. If M$ does it job right i might get their MP3 player whatever they call it like i did with the 360.

Mind you the xbox 360 can hurt the PS3 if M$ markets it right and gets the right games. Same goes with their MP3 players. IF M$ get a good design and markets it right then chances are they will not fail!


RE: Microsloth
By Evilkoala13 on 1/27/2006 5:15:43 PM , Rating: 2
I think it would be kinda cool if they created a digital media player that you could use with your xbox 360 as an external hard drive. that way you could use all your tunes in the games you play, use it for extra storage for the game system (it has already been stated that if microsoft wants to actually deliver game content over the net, they're going to need a much bigger hard drive) and possibly even copy your media center recordings onto it. it would also be nice to always have your games and settings with you wherever you go. they could make it have a similar look to the 360 (aka, justified ipod clone, b/c it goes with the colors and curves of the 360) and i think it would be darn sexy. just my 2 cents.


RE: Microsloth
By Evilkoala13 on 1/27/2006 5:20:47 PM , Rating: 2
and they could call it the mBox... for music box... or microsoft box.


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