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Starter edition is aimed at netbooks

Microsoft has announced that Windows 7 Starter edition will have features not previously found on starter editions of Windows XP and Windows Vista. According to Microsoft, previous starter versions of Windows only allowed users to run three programs simultaneously. The three program limit didn’t count background applications, wireless, Bluetooth, and system tools.

Microsoft points out that the expanded capabilities of Windows 7 starter edition will make the starter version attractive to netbook users, but the starter version isn’t the only version that will operate on netbooks.

Microsoft's Brandon LeBlanc wrote in a blog post that, "[Microsoft has] decided to make some changes compared to previous Starter editions."

He continued writing, "For the first time, we will be making Windows 7 Starter available worldwide on small notebook PCs. We are also going to enable Windows 7 Starter customers the ability to run as many applications simultaneously as they would like, instead of being constricted to the three application limit that the previous Starter editions included. We believe these changes will make Windows 7 Starter an even more attractive option for customers who want a small notebook PC for very basic tasks, like browsing the web, checking email and personal productivity."

Windows 7 Starter won’t include some of the basic features found in other versions of Windows 7 according to LeBlanc. Among the notable features that will be missing from the most basic version of Windows 7 are Aero Glass, personalization features, the ability to switch between users without having to log off, multi monitor support, DVD playback, Windows Media Center, Remote Media Streaming, domain support, and XP mode.

Users wanting all the features will need to opt for a more robust version of Windows 7. LeBlanc wrote, "Many of our beta users have installed Windows 7 Ultimate on their small notebook PCs and have given us very positive feedback on their experience."

Last week Microsoft unveiled a touch pack for Windows 7 that will make touch capable netbooks and notebooks better suited to touch control.



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Useable for gaming?
By sparkuss on 6/1/2009 10:29:26 AM , Rating: 4
If I could get a hold of a copy of this, would it be usable for gaming?

Would starter give me the same base that I end up with after I turn off and tweak all the non-gaming services/OS when I build my own gaming rigs?

Just a thought anyway.




RE: Useable for gaming?
By grvpuri on 6/1/2009 11:30:31 AM , Rating: 2
Surely if you play games that can be handled by a single core processor < 2GHz which has a TDP < 15 W like an AMD Neo or an Atom single core (Can an Atom play games ??? ) !!


RE: Useable for gaming?
By True Strike on 6/1/2009 11:40:41 AM , Rating: 2
Xcom UFO Defense and Total Annihilation FTW!


RE: Useable for gaming?
By sparkuss on 6/1/2009 2:50:37 PM , Rating: 2
Okay, I guess I was confused.

I didn't know the OS was going to "software-limit" the hardware that could be used. I thought the OS was going to be paired down to "be able" to run with limited hardware.

So no chance of loading starter onto a full-spec gaming hardware rig?


aero
By MadMan007 on 6/1/2009 1:03:04 PM , Rating: 2
So to be clear no Aero Glass means it has the look of Vista or Win7 just not the see-through-ness? Not really a major loss. The other stuff mostly doesn't matter for netbooks anyway, heck I could almost see it being acceptable for desktops aside from the lack of multimonitor but that doesn't matter to lots of people either.




RE: aero
By Spivonious on 6/1/2009 1:11:32 PM , Rating: 2
Yep that's right. But you also lose all of the Aero features, like Aero Peek, Shake, and Snap (Peek being the most useful, IMO).


RE: aero
By Justin Time on 6/1/2009 5:36:56 PM , Rating: 1
Biggest mistake IMO is the lack of ability to "personalize".

Not able to run aero is one thing, but not letting people do simple things like change the wallpaper ??


For netbooks?
By ertomas on 6/2/2009 2:39:05 PM , Rating: 2
I am running windows 7 Ultimate (RC) on my aspire one with only 1gb of ram and it runs great, however I ordered an aditional 1gb stick to make it run better.

The only issue I've had with it is the webcam driver not working.

I beleive the only benefit for netbooks would be in the price factor.




No DVD Playback?
By epyon96 on 6/1/09, Rating: -1
RE: No DVD Playback?
By Spivonious on 6/1/2009 10:25:16 AM , Rating: 4
Do netbooks even have optical drives? If excluding DVD playback lets MS chop $5 off the price, then I welcome it.


RE: No DVD Playback?
By amanojaku on 6/1/2009 10:28:23 AM , Rating: 5
I don't see how the loss of DVD playback is such a loss. You can just buy a USB DVD drive and it most likely will include the playback software. If not, just download VLC or something similar.


RE: No DVD Playback?
By armagedon on 6/1/2009 10:42:52 AM , Rating: 2
and in absolute necessity, "virtual"(iso) cd drive does the trick. Almost every one who has a netbook have another comp with optical drive to make the image.


RE: No DVD Playback?
By omnicronx on 6/1/2009 10:47:52 AM , Rating: 5
When they say no DVD playback I assume they just mean it does not natively support mpeg2 in which MS would save on licensing fees.. Just install VLC(free) or some other DVD program and you are set.


RE: No DVD Playback?
By Sulphademus on 6/1/2009 4:44:00 PM , Rating: 3
I thought that only Vista Home Premium & Ultimate (and maybe Enterprise) came with WMP DVD movie support?
Therefore, I dont see how this is any sort of change.


RE: No DVD Playback?
By omnicronx on 6/1/2009 5:11:29 PM , Rating: 2
Seems to be the case..

Heres a quote from the MS site:
quote:
If you are running the Windows Vista Home Basic, Windows Vista Business, Windows Vista Enterprise, or Windows XP operating system on your computer, you might need to install a compatible DVD decoder (also known as a MPEG-2 decoder) before continuing with the following activities.


RE: No DVD Playback?
By crystal clear on 6/1/2009 10:49:39 AM , Rating: 2
With the first Nvidia Ion netbooks hitting the scene -- netbooks that can actually handle 1080p high-def video, by the way -- netbooks will soon be able to do quite a bit more than get you online.


RE: No DVD Playback?
By crystal clear on 6/1/2009 10:41:50 AM , Rating: 1
As clearly said in the article-

We believe these changes will make Windows 7 Starter an even more attractive option for customers who want a small notebook PC for very basic tasks, like browsing the web, checking email and personal productivity." "


Also new restrictions apply-

Limiting screen size to a maximum of 10.2 inches (measured diagonally) as the defining boundary between a Small Notebook PC and a full-featured laptop.

Single core processors that :
• do not exceed 2 GHz frequency, and
• have a CPU thermal design power that is less than or equal to 15 W, not including the graphics and chipset.

Plus allows-

Expanding storage options-250 GB HDD or 64 GB SDD


Hopefully they'll think this thru
By marvdmartian on 6/1/09, Rating: -1
By haldiggs on 6/1/2009 10:27:34 AM , Rating: 5
lol... har har har, way to restate the whole purpose of the aticle dude. Now let's start a whole line of gripes about something they just corrected.

Who wants to be first?


RE: Hopefully they'll think this thru
By invidious on 6/1/2009 10:36:08 AM , Rating: 2
Is there any reason that you cant install your own dvd playback software? I mean seriously who uses baseline WMP for watching anything? Everyone installs their own codecs/players.


RE: Hopefully they'll think this thru
By Spivonious on 6/1/2009 11:23:26 AM , Rating: 1
If it's built-in, why install something else?


RE: Hopefully they'll think this thru
By the goat on 6/1/2009 11:57:13 AM , Rating: 5
quote:
If it's built-in, why install something else?

Why do women get boob jobs?


By Spivonious on 6/1/2009 1:10:11 PM , Rating: 3
Because they think it will make up for lack of self-confidence?


By saiga6360 on 6/1/2009 1:16:39 PM , Rating: 2
Because they were expecting their computer to play DVDs. Duh.


By omnicronx on 6/1/2009 12:19:18 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Is there any reason that you cant install your own dvd playback software? I mean seriously who uses baseline WMP for watching anything? Everyone installs their own codecs/players.
Not everyone, which is the reason that MS decided to package native mpeg2 decoding as of Vista, i.e you can play DVD's or any MPEG2 video out of the box on any piece of software that can play mpeg2 video. It is not limited to WMP, any player can make use of the native MS mpeg2 codecs (winamp etc). The main reason they did this is because of Media Center and its dependency on mpeg2, it used to be a nightmare setting up MCE correctly, and always having to worry about codec conflicts..

As I said previously, merely installing free software like VLC will solve your problem. This also leaves it up to the manufacturer to do what they will. There is nothing saying they cannot bundle a DVD player with the OS, just that MS won't support it natively.


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