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Sony say PlayStation 3 total sales surpass Xbox 360 in Europe, Microsoft refutes claim

The Xbox 360 has an undeniable strength in North America, but Microsoft’s hold on hardcore gamers isn’t quite as strong in other parts of the world. The Xbox 360 might as well not exist in Japan, but the console is doing okay in Europe.

Sony Computer Entertainment European chief David Reeves proudly announced to the media at the PlayStation Day conference that sales of PS3 have surpassed the Xbox 360 in Europe.

“I am delighted to be able announce today that we have sold more PlayStation 3s throughout Europe than Xbox 360 - even though they launched sixteen months before PS3,” Reeves said, adding that there are now more than 5 million PS3, 12 million PSP and 48 million PS2 in the territory.

“These numbers are a testament to the strength of the PlayStation brand throughout our region, the ever-increasing number of titles being launched, the rich content on offer and its appeal to different demographics and cultures,” he commented.

Meanwhile, Microsoft’s Xbox director of product management Aaron Greenberg had some interesting sales figures of his own, some of which run contrary to the ones Reeves mentioned.

“Today Xbox 360 has a 5-million-unit console sales lead on a global basis based on most recently public reported data from both companies,” said Greenberg, referring to Microsoft’s lead over Sony. “This includes more than double the installed base in the US according to actual NPD sell-through and over a 1-million-unit lead across Europe also based on reported sell-through from Chart Track and GfK.”

As for who is correct in their numbers, the unofficial numbers for VGChartz pegs the Xbox 360 with 6.4 million sales outside of Japan and North America, while the PS3 is at 5.4 million. Those numbers likely include Australia in the mix, a country with a strong Xbox 360 base, making the exact sales delta in Europe a little less clear.

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The Numbers game!
By StevoLincolnite on 5/10/2008 9:23:04 AM , Rating: 2
These numbers are not really telling a story at all, basically it's saying that someone is lying and that is all.

However in my small town in South Aussie I know:

1 Person with an Xbox 360.
1 Person with a PS3.
4 People with a DS.
And lost count on the many Wii's and PS2's floating around.
Mind you thats really not an indication to sales other than my circle of friends in a small town out in the middle of nowhere.

I was hoping there might be "Something" more the article, but alas I was wrong.
Anyway, let the wars begin on the:

Xbox 360 verses the PS3.

Xbox live verses Playstation Home.

Sales verses lack there-of.

Games library - To hardly any at all.

Blue-ray verses HD DVD/DVD/CD.

I would buy them all if they dropped to the 300 dollar mark.




RE: The Numbers game!
By Reclaimer77 on 5/10/2008 10:43:54 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
These numbers are not really telling a story at all


Yeah plus its for Europe. I'm trying to make myself care, but I just can't.


RE: The Numbers game!
By ImSpartacus on 5/10/08, Rating: 0
RE: The Numbers game!
By B3an on 5/10/08, Rating: 0
RE: The Numbers game!
By daftrok on 5/10/2008 1:34:30 PM , Rating: 1
What a colorful insult: Yanks. So I guess we should call you dirty redcoats with no dental? Hey if you're generalizing us to a New York baseball team we can generalize you to Britain.


RE: The Numbers game!
By christojojo on 5/10/2008 1:44:39 PM , Rating: 2
You know that Americans have been called "Yanks" for such a short time (over 200 years). That darn song we sing in elementary school called "Yankee Doodle Dandy" really enraged my grandfather enough to go fight with the Brits in WWII. My CoD4 unit won't allow Brits to join unless they apply. In matter of fact one runs the group and I am forced to call him friend out of his personality.

To the Brits, sorry for the thin skinned easily offended fellow Yanks. Swear at us we wont blink. Call us Yanks and we'll dump more tea.


RE: The Numbers game!
By Locutus465 on 5/11/2008 2:18:33 PM , Rating: 2
I had no idea there were american's that thin skinnd about being called "yank" :P

Personally I've never been all that upset by it, hell I moved to the south where I get called yankee all the time and I'm cool :)


RE: The Numbers game!
By lexluthermiester on 5/11/2008 5:02:01 PM , Rating: 2
Most people in the USA couldn't care less about someone calling them a "yank". But there are a few people so uptight and intolerant that the terms "yank", "honky" and "gringo" somehow upset them. daftrok seems to be one of those people that are so insecure that a more or less colorful label is found offensive.

So to those people, I say this;
Grow up, get a clue, chill out and get over it....


RE: The Numbers game!
By Drexial on 5/12/2008 11:17:06 AM , Rating: 2
you forgot cracker


RE: The Numbers game!
By AlphaVirus on 5/12/2008 11:31:03 AM , Rating: 3
I think the problem is the term of use.
The terms yank, honky, cracker, nigger, gringo, spick, wetback, etc. can all be used in a way that is offensive and even people with thick skin will become angered.

Some people will use it in a debatable manner, some people use it between friends in which the term is used as "Whats up 'friend'", and then there are the people who will use the terms to hurt, disrespect, or emotionally disturb others.

I have been called about half of those terms, and I don't think daftrok should have gotten upset. The previous poster did not seem to have malice in his post.

Heck, our Candian neighbords call us yanks/yankees. Every time I speak with them, they use one of those terms. Can't get mad because they do not use it with malice behind it.


RE: The Numbers game!
By ajfink on 5/10/2008 1:49:17 PM , Rating: 3
It's not really an insult, at least not outright. It's sort of tongue-in-cheek if it's anything, but generally, it's just a term they use for us. Sort of like people from the U.S. might refer to people from Britain as "Brits," though I think a lot of the world does that. It's just a term, not a derogatory one. As an American, I don't mind it.

And yes, we don't get the best phone technology, because no major phone companies are based in the U.S., I don't believe.


RE: The Numbers game!
By Reclaimer77 on 5/10/2008 7:13:13 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
It's just a term, not a derogatory one. As an American, I don't mind it.


Yes but its spoken with that typical British superiority. Thats why it sets some people off. When I say " brit " I'm just using an abbreviating. Not trying to say I'm better than somebody.


RE: The Numbers game!
By chsh1ca on 5/10/2008 8:37:02 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, you can definitely see his <superiority> tags.


RE: The Numbers game!
By Drexial on 5/12/2008 11:26:00 AM , Rating: 3
Typical british superiority... HAHAHA

yeah thats why. Us Americans are so humble. I mean, the comment "There is a reason everything comes out later in Europe" wasn't about superiority at all. The fact that we are the teenage nation that think we are so much better then our parents. Whats not so humble about that... I mean its probably just a phase.


RE: The Numbers game!
By Seemonkeyscanfly on 5/12/2008 12:53:25 PM , Rating: 2
I'm proud to be a Yankee... Are we perfect, no and anyone that claims they are perfect has some major issues.
“yes but its spoken with that typical British superiority”. First it was written, second I did not see any written marks to note a superiority complex, third you heard it in your own head (so the superiority issue is yours not someone else).
Finally what would you have someone else calling us USA'ains? Americans is really not good at all for it should be a insult to: Anguilla, Antigua and Barbuda, Aruba, Bahamas, Barbados, Belize, Bermuda, British Virgin Islands, Canada, Cayman Islands, Clipperton Island, Costa Rica, Cuba, Dominica, Dominican Republic, Grenada, Guatemala, Haiti, Honduras, Jamaica, Martinique Mexico, Montserrat, Navassa Island, Nicaragua, Panama, Puerto Rico, Saint Barthelemy, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia, Saint Martin, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Saint, Trinidad and Tobago, Turks and Caicos Islands, Virgin Islands, Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Ecuador, French Guiana, Guyana, Paraguay, Peru, Suriname, Uruguay, Venezuelz (sorry if I missed anyone); When you refer to an American as someone from the USA....For the people of all these other countries I just listed are American's too.
230 years we've been called Yanks...It's who we are.


RE: The Numbers game!
By afkrotch on 5/12/2008 1:11:48 PM , Rating: 2
I'm Asian living in the US (well...Germany atm), thank you very much.


RE: The Numbers game!
By MRwizard on 5/12/2008 3:13:01 AM , Rating: 2
Well in South Africa, we call the "brits" "poms". (just a quick FYI


RE: The Numbers game!
By theapparition on 5/12/2008 8:48:03 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
And yes, we don't get the best phone technology, because no major phone companies are based in the U.S., I don't believe.

Motorola is based in the US, however, their phones have never been the pinnacle of latest technologies.


RE: The Numbers game!
By B3an on 5/10/2008 5:51:20 PM , Rating: 1
What rock you been living under daftrok? ...is that why you have that name? i mean the rest of the world has only been calling you yanks for well over 100 years.

And it's not really an insult as the others pointed out.


RE: The Numbers game!
By spluurfg on 5/10/2008 2:24:39 PM , Rating: 5
quote:
..Yeah because Europeans have higher standards so companies like to make sure there products work well enough first. Especially when it comes to safety.


Really? I figured it had to do more with:

(a) None of the three major console manufacturers are European
(b) America is bigger market than Europe
(c) Distribution networks are more expensive and import tariffs are higher in Europe

Just as how there's a sensible explanation of why Americans get phone tech last -- two major carriers (Sprint and Verizon) use CDMA technology and 3g networks were not available until later. Plus the market isn't as competitive and Nokia wasn't willing to play the 'we'll customize our phone just for the network' game in the USA until recently.


RE: The Numbers game!
By BZDTemp on 5/10/2008 6:50:41 PM , Rating: 1
If America = US + Canada and Europe = EU then I think it's pretty much equal. As for import tariffs I think you are mistaken - the WTO makes sure that is not so.

I think the main reasons for Europe(EU) getting consoles later are the following.

1. Many languages. The EU laws require documentation and so to be provide in peoples native language so translation takes time.
2. Differences in electric wall sockets. This means either packing multiple power cables with each console our individual packing.
3. Higher standards of consumer protection. Everything sold to a consumer in the EU must come with a 2 year warranty (a little simplified) so that means any sensible company will limit their risk and start out in a place with shorter warranty.
4. A lot of distribution companies to make deals with which is part of the c that spluurfg wrote.


RE: The Numbers game!
By afkrotch on 5/12/2008 10:11:11 AM , Rating: 3
quote:
1. Many languages. The EU laws require documentation and so to be provide in peoples native language so translation takes time.


My Japanese and US 360 came with manuals for like 18 different languages.

quote:
2. Differences in electric wall sockets. This means either packing multiple power cables with each console our individual packing.


Provide a universal converter. My TV did. It uses a Japanese plug, but came with 3 converters.

quote:
3. Higher standards of consumer protection. Everything sold to a consumer in the EU must come with a 2 year warranty (a little simplified) so that means any sensible company will limit their risk and start out in a place with shorter warranty.


Don't all the consoles have at least a 2-3 year warranty?

quote:
4. A lot of distribution companies to make deals with which is part of the c that spluurfg wrote.


Because these companies obviously have never dealt with distributing their products in Europe...ever.

Europe just gets it last, cause Japan and the US are your most important markets. Japan, cause the more ppl buy it there, the more gaming companies will make games for your console. US because it's one of the biggest markets for electronic goods. The US has what? 50% of the 360 sales worldwide.


RE: The Numbers game!
By DFranch on 5/12/2008 11:03:44 AM , Rating: 2
No all consoles do not have a 2-3 year warranty. In the US the 360 started with a 90 day warranty which was extended to 2 year, the extended to 3 years but only for the rrod.


RE: The Numbers game!
By afkrotch on 5/12/2008 11:55:57 AM , Rating: 2
I was talking about Europe. I know the US likes to keep warranties low.

Guess wrong on that one. PS3 is a 1 year warranty and the Xbox 360 also launched with a 1 year warranty (2 years in some Euro countries for either console). 360 extended of course, due to it being crap hardware for a while.


RE: The Numbers game!
By Reclaimer77 on 5/10/2008 7:09:54 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
(c) Distribution networks are more expensive and import tariffs are higher in Europe


Higher ? Yeah, they are freaking outrageous.

Anyway my comment wasn't meant to be anti Europe at all. I just really don't care what sells how much in other countries. And to be honest, if I was European I wouldn't care how much of something sold in the USA :)


RE: The Numbers game!
By lexluthermiester on 5/11/2008 3:02:33 AM , Rating: 2
First, I have no issues being called a "Yank". The few friends I have over in the UK use the term in a most friendly and endearing manner.

Second, You are most correct about Brit's and Euro's requiring a high standard for the products sold to them. And the reason we yanks get cellphone tech last is because the manufacturers don't make any money on them. If the phone service providers in the U.S. quit requiring contracts to subsidize the phones they provide, we would have access to better phones sooner, but at the side effect of have to pay for said phones up front, which we cheap-angus yanks don't like paying...


RE: The Numbers game!
By afkrotch on 5/12/2008 9:50:18 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
..Yeah because Europeans have higher standards so companies like to make sure there products work well enough first. Especially when it comes to safety.

But having said that, you yanks always seem to get phone tech last.


Seeing as I've lived in the UK, Germany, S.Korea, Japan, and US, the Europeans have nothing to say about phone tech.

Euro phones are the same pieces of crap that the US has. I'm currently living in Germany, but went home for some vacation back in Feb. I went to look for a temp phone to use. Needless to say, exact same phones as Germany. Only difference is that majority of the ones in the states don't use a SIM card.

Would stick with using my old NTT Docomo phone, but the Japanese like to lock their phones down. Bought my old Panasonic P901is in 2005 and it's still years ahead of anything the Europeans could muster.


RE: The Numbers game!
By lexluthermiester on 5/11/2008 4:50:30 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I'm trying to make myself care, but I just can't.


Well you see, in order to care one has to have a clue...


RE: The Numbers game!
By boogle on 5/10/2008 10:51:51 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
basically it's saying that someone is lying and that is all.


I don't think anyone is lying, just selectively committing and including various territories.

It's like a US car manufacturer saying they have 60% of the market, and then in the small print saying 'United States only'. They haven't technically lied, but they have been misleading.


RE: The Numbers game!
By SlyNine on 5/10/2008 2:27:05 PM , Rating: 1
The act of lying is just a form of deception, not necessarily the act of making a false statement. You can tell the truth and still be lying if your statement is meant to deceive someone.


RE: The Numbers game!
By StevoLincolnite on 5/11/2008 3:28:51 AM , Rating: 3
It's Blatant lying, Bugger all this other fancy wording, and just call it for what it really is, There is no strings attached, and it doesn't damage your Vocabulary or I.Q to say it either.


RE: The Numbers game!
By Unknown Exile on 5/12/2008 6:10:25 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
I don't think anyone is lying, just selectively committing and including various territories.


I give you one of the many definitions of lying "Something intended or serving to convey a false impression. or An inaccurate or false statement."

Regardless if we are to look at this from a purely objective viewpoint, then it is highly likely that both Microsoft and Sony are lying in some form about their sales figures. However you bring up an interesting point with car sales, as you might know car manufactures will often sell a number of there cars to the dealers to be used as demo models however since this makes there sales figures look good, they sell quite a number to dealers to be used as demo or "Near/Used New" sales, these cars are actually sold and registered under the dealers. Its is likely both Microsoft and Sony (and I wouldn't put it past Nintendo either) sell a number of there consoles to there dealers under the guise of demo models, however these consoles then get sold to the public as either used or new, and maybe these consoles aren't sold at all, and all this serves is to make there sales figures look good.


RE: The Numbers game!
By SiN on 5/10/2008 10:55:43 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
1 Person with an Xbox 360.
1 Person with a PS3.
4 People with a DS.
And lost count on the many Wii's and PS2's floating around


I think that sums it up. Xbox 360 and PS3 are about equal, every month one sells more than the other. You'd think they'd stop this tit for tat by now. Both have good selling points. Both have strengths and weaknesses.

Whichever way you look at it, Nintendo are the undisputed champs of hardware sales.

Give it till January 2009, then tell me the stats. I might care!


RE: The Numbers game!
By Tsuwamono on 5/10/2008 6:22:35 PM , Rating: 2
Indeed, i prefer my 360 for gaming but as i move more towards TV and movies etc i sold my 360 for a PS3 so i could use it as a better media centre.. sorry but 20 gb HD just wasnt big enough. 320 is what im using now in my PS3 and its almost full.


RE: The Numbers game!
By ranger203 on 5/10/2008 11:00:00 AM , Rating: 2
All I know is that my buddy is trying to buy a Wii for Tiger woods '08, and they are nowhere to be found except jacked up on ebay.


RE: The Numbers game!
By StevoLincolnite on 5/11/2008 3:34:04 AM , Rating: 2
The Wii and accompanied games aren't exactly "Hard to get" here, but that could vary if you go elsewhere though, As there is only 1 place in about an 8 hour drive that sells consoles and games. - Personally, I'm waiting for more price drops which will probably happen during the Christmas season, And I can wait if supply becomes hard to get.

I'm not one of those people who will spend a price premium just to get it first, If I save a dollar by waiting, thats a dollar that is better off in my pocket than in these big company's :P


RE: The Numbers game!
By MADAOO7 on 5/10/2008 8:49:12 PM , Rating: 2
I'm a college student, and both companies prime target market. I am the only person I know who has a PS3, but I would need an extra hand to count the number of people who have a 360. I just don't understand why you would choose the PS3 over the Xbox 360. Gran Turismo is coming out sometime next decade and Final Fantasy was cool when I was in middle school. Metal Gear Solid, will be great, but that leaves you with a small handful of worthwhile games, most of which you are still waiting for. Get the 360 Arcade for $270, get Halo 3, perhaps some Madden action, and the better version of GTA4 that is actually in HD. I'm giving the PS3 to my parents who will probably use it for a glorified DVD player. Biggest waste of my money? Nah, but it's close...... Just my two cents.


RE: The Numbers game!
By afkrotch on 5/12/2008 11:03:48 AM , Rating: 2
Ppl choose a PS3 cause different ppl play different games. One console has more titles for a specific genre than another console. The Wii is the highest selling console. Does that mean you are going to go out and buy one?

Higher sales of one console doesn't make it a better console for your style of games.

Me, I found Halo 3 to be a mediocre fps with mediocre story. I hate Madden. GTA4 at 640p. Guess what? Halo 3 is also at 640p. Either way, more review sites have said that the GTA4 looks better on PS3 than 360.

http://www.ripten.com/2008/04/29/confirmed-gta-iv-...

I am not a one console person. I have a Japanese PS3, Japanese 360, and US 360. I hate being limited to one console as I like games on both console and from multiple regions.

Plays games, plays HD movies, has download service, and so on. I use all the features, minus the Folding@Home and Edy (Japanese PS3 feature).

I'd so much the same on the Xbox 360, but I wasn't going to pay $200 for an HD-DVD drive, I can't import my mp3s into the console, nor does the 20 gig hard drive have enough space. I don't know how many times I have to keep deleting items to be able to download new ones and the 120 gig drive is overpriced.

I still have much love for my 360. Enough to do this...
http://www.afkrotch.com/Random_Pics/360%20Modding/...

PS3 is still too costly for me to start modding it.


RE: The Numbers game!
By AlphaVirus on 5/12/2008 12:11:16 PM , Rating: 2
Did you mod the 360 yourself or was it a particular company? Whats up with the little girl on it, is she from an anime series or what?

I would love to mod my ps3 and 360 once I get one. Waiting for the Jasper model to come to the store, no way I was going to buy faulty hardware.

I love the clear case siding with blue led inside, nice! I would get red or some other darker color. The blue led on the PS3, that shows if a disc is in, is too bright in the dark.


RE: The Numbers game!
By afkrotch on 5/12/2008 1:10:00 PM , Rating: 2
I modded it myself. Just a dremel, cutting wheel, and grinder bit. The girl is Lacus Clyne ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lacus_Clyne ).
I couldn't find any Idolm@ster stickers around Akihabara, Tokyo when I did the mod, nor could I find any online.

The blue led is part of the fan. It's easy to purchase one of the fans from ebay or whatever.

I know how you feel about faulty hardware. That Xbox 360 in the picture actually died, even with the watercooling. It was my 2nd Xbox 360. I just pulled off the casing and threw it onto my 3rd Xbox 360.

I've been too lazy to go through all the hassles of putting the dvd-rom into the new 360, so it's using an unmodded dvd-rom atm.

I'm holding off right now on doing it, cause I'll probably buy a new HDMI Japanese 360 to replace it. Which I'll have to do some more dremel work, since the casing is different.

I'll probably repaint the old one blue, give it the Eternal Sonata or Blue Dragon faceplate and sell it on ebay. Still have all the crap for the Xbox 360 Blue Dragon bundle that was sold in Japan.


Who Cares?
By Trisagion on 5/10/2008 10:42:39 AM , Rating: 2
I for one am absolutely tired of reading these number stories. It's been more than a year since both consoles launched and we still get monthly numbers from Microsoft, Sony and other third parties. Seriously, who cares? You don't see this annoying behavior with other consumer electronics.

Not to mention the console fan boy posts...

I wish Dailytech would stop publishing 'number' articles unless some significant event happens such as PS3 overtaking the Xbox in global sales or something.




RE: Who Cares?
By BladeVenom on 5/10/2008 1:02:44 PM , Rating: 2
I care about them as much as a sports fan cares about the latest sport figures.

You wouldn't tell ESPN to stop publishing football scores every week would you?


RE: Who Cares?
By winterspan on 5/10/08, Rating: -1
RE: Who Cares?
By SlyNine on 5/11/2008 2:57:58 AM , Rating: 2
Yes we should all live just to take one breath after another. Or should we make acquiring objects the number one goal, maybe political power.

Chill out man we all need an outlet, something we can think about besides our own lives and something to get behind. These sports might be children sports to you, but the guys that play these games are the best their is at it. So it's fun watching them compete.


RE: Who Cares?
By Reclaimer77 on 5/11/2008 12:14:13 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I certainly would. In fact, I wish ESPN and the content it reports on didn't even exist.
How can ANYONE be obsessed with watching a bunch of grown men play childrens games. The whole professional sports "hobby" and all related activities including live games, watching television broadcasts, statistics tracking, etc has to be one of the greatest, most meaningless, and idiotic wastes of time and effort ever conceived by man.


Fag.


RE: Who Cares?
By omnicronx on 5/11/2008 1:34:17 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
I certainly would. In fact, I wish ESPN and the content it reports on didn't even exist.
How can ANYONE be obsessed with watching a bunch of grown men play childrens games. The whole professional sports "hobby" and all related activities including live games, watching television broadcasts, statistics tracking, etc has to be one of the greatest, most meaningless, and idiotic wastes of time and effort ever conceived by man.
Why are you going off an a tangeant about ESPN and sports? Go watch greys anatomy or something to cool off.


RE: Who Cares?
By walk2k on 5/10/2008 1:57:24 PM , Rating: 2
Fully agreed. Outside of not being able to find as many players online for PSN games as XBL I really don't care who's BAR is bigger than the BAR that other companies have...

At this point I think it's clear both consoles are going to do very well thru their life cycle.


Where are all the PS3s in Europe?
By jabber on 5/10/2008 11:52:59 AM , Rating: 2
I'm not seeing them. Out of all my 20-30 something friends on good incomes, not one of them has a PS3. I still dont know anyone personally that has bought one. Loads of 360's and a smattering of Wii's, thats it! The major part for the 360 was one of us bought it when it came out so we all bought 360's to go with the online gaming. Xbox Live is a good tool for buying in groups of friends. No one wants to be the console leper.
My brother is a huge PS fan but he has said he still doesnt think the PS3 justifies a purchase yet.
However, I'd take both Sony and MS's stats with a pinch of salt. Sales figures will change once these things start to hit saturation point (360 first) and the downturn in the economy hits harder.




RE: Where are all the PS3s in Europe?
By newcastlenellie on 5/10/2008 1:39:58 PM , Rating: 2
same here, i'm a foyrth year uni student in Newcastle, and I cant think of anybody I know who has a PS3, however I know of alot of student houses which have either a 360 or Wii, in many cases (including mine) the house will have both and good fun they are too. Nobody I know see's the point in loosing an arm and a leg to Sony in order to have a PS3


RE: Where are all the PS3s in Europe?
By Aloonatic on 5/12/2008 4:50:07 AM , Rating: 2
It does not come a surprise to hear that a students have bought the cheapest of the consoles available.

I have all 3 and I know a few people who have 360s, a couple have PS3s and 1 who has a wii.

So from that I can safely assume that all this talk of the wii being the highest selling console is complete nonsense?

Or maybe this is a generation of consoles that have been targeted at different demographics more than ever before?

The wii being the best games console for kids and all round cheap thrills fun.

The 360 being the best console of the "next gen" high def games consoles.

And the PS3 being the best "next gen" games console and HD media hub.

Chose which bracket you fall into, spends yr money and takes yr chances.

PS one thing that has really been telling in this and the main reason I bought a 360 is how well they've pushed the live online multiplayer.

My friends that have 360s are the people who play games the most so to play online I have to use my xBox most of the time and this leads more people buying the same console as their friends.

This has probably lead to more polarised clusters of console buyers, my girl friends little brother wants a PS3, even tho I advised a 360 but it turns out in his school most kids have a PS3 rather oddly.


By Aloonatic on 5/12/2008 5:05:39 AM , Rating: 2
Before all the spelling and grammar Nazis attack, I was on the phone to my boss whilst writing that last comment and accidentally pressed post rather than preview :-s


By piroroadkill on 5/13/2008 7:39:08 AM , Rating: 1
I have a 360, and live with 3 people who also have a 360.
I also know that there are 2 people in the house that have a Wii, and I know another friend that has a Wii, and countless others that have 360s.

I know a single person that has a PS3.

Does this mean anything? No, not in the slightest, anecdotal evidence with a small sample size like this proves jack shit


By Hoser McMoose on 5/11/2008 5:42:16 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
I'm not seeing them.

Well apparently there are 4 to 5M PS3 in Europe, according to this article. There are between 400 and 500M people in Europe. So really we're only talking about 1 console for every hundred people, not exactly ubiquitous. Also it's likely that some console sales have tended to cluster a bit for the very reasons you mentioned.

Beyond that though, my one big question is whether the sales numbers are for ACTUAL sales to end users or simply the number that have been pushed into the distribution channel? The former is usually quite difficult to gauge, so usually companies only track the latter (plus it makes their numbers sound betters). So it's possible that there are a lot of PS3s sitting on store shelves or in warehouses somewhere.


Prices in Greece
By xNIBx on 5/11/2008 7:01:10 PM , Rating: 4
xbox 360 arcade + 5 free arcade games : 200euro(309$)
xbox 360 premium + 2 free AAA titles(forza 2, viva pinata) : 270euro(417$)
ps3 40gB : 430euro(664$)
wii : 250euro(386$)

The prices above also include 19% VAT. I think the same prices apply for all of Europe, in other words Europe is getting ass raped. Also for some reason, Sony Greece decided to charge for the ps3 an extra 30$ over the rest of Europe.

Anyway, my point is that i really doubt ps3 is selling more than 360. MS lowered the prices recently and even though the playstation brand is a lot stronger in Europe(mainly because of ps2/ps1 and grand turismo titles), i am pretty sure that the 360 is selling more than the ps3. At least that's the impression that i get from the people that i know.

Also note how expensive wii is compared to 360 :P

PS 1euro = 1.54 US dollars




Consider the source?
By Mitch101 on 5/10/2008 12:40:29 PM , Rating: 1
Is any stats come from Sony everyone should be calling shins? Microsoft just called it first.

Cause Sony wouldnt lie would they?

Find a PS3 and receive $1200 from Sony? Still waiting for my $7200 check Sony.

Sony pays $1.5m over fake critic
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/film/4741...

Sony Slammed for Hidden CD Software
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2005/sony.ht...

That Guy Showing Off His Hot New Phone May Be a Shill --- New Campaign for Sony Ericsson Puts Actors in Real-Life Settings; Women Play Battleship at the Bar
http://tinyurl.com/5uwmjs




RE: Consider the source?
By Bigjee on 5/10/2008 3:14:39 PM , Rating: 2
Think Sony's the only one screwing up?

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=10434

Think again.


Does it really matter?
By joemoedee on 5/10/2008 10:49:45 AM , Rating: 2
All of the numbers will be spun a different way. (Number sold versus number shipped, etc.) There's no truly accurate way to pinpoint the exact amount sold worldwide.

The biggest thing, in a bit of a troubled economy, video game systems are selling. Be it PS2, PS3, Xbox 360, Wii, DS, PSP, whatever, they all seem to be doing quite well.

6th gen, there was an clear cut sales leader (PS2) with the two other consoles doing fairly well (GC and Xbox). I think we're seeing a bit of a mirror, except the Wii is the clear cut sales leader, with both the PS3 and 360 doing quite well now.

It shows the market can support multiple systems, and I'm glad to see it. Everyone is winning, as gamers get variety and choice whereas the system manufacturers and game developers are making money. Personally, I'm still playing my Xbox. :)




VGChartz
By deeznuts on 5/12/2008 2:04:01 AM , Rating: 2
I'm sorry, this article lost all credibility when it referenced VGChartz. You were so close too. It's not too late, you can still take it out!




vgchartz??
By Kiver on 5/12/2008 9:38:04 AM , Rating: 2
U should stop sourcing that website. I won't bother reading these anymore if u continue. It makes you look the fool.




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