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Sony says Microsoft's claim of Xbox 360 outselling PS3 "are way off"

Microsoft revealed yesterday that it sold 310,000 during Black Friday week, which will likely contribute to the strongest week of the year for Xbox 360, perhaps rivaled only the week of the Halo 3 launch.

While there is little argument that Nintendo won the overall sales number game during the Thanksgiving shopping week with 350,000 sold, Microsoft boasted to Next-Gen that it outsold PlayStation 3 by a ratio of 2:1, citing unspecified retail estimates.

Using Microsoft’s numbers, it would mean that Sony sold 155,000 PlayStation 3 consoles throughout last week – which would be a fair performance given that only 121,000 PS3s were sold during the entire month of October.

Sony, however, is taking exception to Microsoft’s estimates that propose PlayStation 3 selling only half as well as the Xbox 360. SCEA spokeswoman Kimberly Otzman sent an email to Todd Bishop’s Microsoft Blog refuting Microsoft’s claim.

“It's (Sony Computer Entertainment America) policy not to disclose our unit sales numbers until NPD numbers are officially released which will be December 13th,” wrote Otzman. “However, I can assure you that Microsoft's estimates of our PS3 unit sales numbers are way off and they did not outsell PS3 2:1 during Black Friday week.”

One thing that can be assumed from the SCEA representative’s comments is that, even though PS3 may have not have been outsold by a 2:1 ratio, the Xbox 360 still managed to outpace Sony’s latest console – a fact that SCEA is not disputing.

Those interested in the actual sales ratio between the two competing consoles will likely have to wait until NPD releases its figures in two weeks.

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By Murst on 11/30/2007 10:16:51 AM , Rating: 3
I assume the MS claim is about the USA only, where they appear to have outsold the PS3 by a pretty significant margin 298k to 174k (not really 2:1 though).

Since no country is really specified, Sony could claim that they outsold the 360 9:1 (for Japan, anyways).

Either of the two above are rather silly though, and the consoles are about equal in sales when you compare their total sales for the week.

MS should be happy that they're consistently outselling Sony worldwide (even though the margin has declined), while Sony should be happy that they're not totally blown away by the 360 considering they have nothing that can match the caliber of Halo3/Bioshock/Mass Effect.

RE: Where?
By Spivonious on 11/30/2007 10:34:06 AM , Rating: 5
Since Black Friday is a strictly U.S. event, it wouldn't make any sense to compare other countries' sales.

RE: Where?
By Murst on 11/30/2007 11:10:33 AM , Rating: 5
Do we really need a press event every time a sale happens?

How is this any more significant than New Years in Japan? Do we need to have Sony announce how much they outsold the XBox 360 in japan on that holiday?

RE: Where?
By BladeVenom on 11/30/2007 12:07:05 PM , Rating: 5
It's is more significant here because Black Friday is the biggest sales day.

I would expect a Japanese site to post New Years sales number.

RE: Where?
By 9nails on 12/1/2007 12:50:38 AM , Rating: 2
I doubt that Sony would post figure on how well the PS3 preforms against the Xbox 360 in Japan. Especially since Xbox 360 sales in Japan typically mark the bottom of the graphs. (And are probably can be correlated to the presence of American GI's in the country!) The Japanese culture is highly nation oriented and gravitate strongly towards products made in Japan. Juxtapose to the Japanese position, other territories tend to purchase from the heart and make fewer cerebral decisions regarding product origin. These other territories mark truer reflections of a products mass appeal.

RE: Where?
By sweetsauce on 11/30/2007 10:44:10 AM , Rating: 2
You don't even need to mention halo3 and bioshock. Mass effect says it all. Amazing game. Besides, the fanboys will say bioshock isn't exclusive since its on the pc. I think microsoft didn't hype mass effect as much as it should have. I've already convinced 5 friends who play casually to buy it since they never heard of it.

RE: Where?
By therealnickdanger on 11/30/2007 11:08:46 AM , Rating: 2
It is a stellar game - no pun intended. Mass Effect is proving to be a real treat to play. I only wish you had more direct control over your squad when you are in combat.

RE: Where?
By aos007 on 11/30/07, Rating: 0
RE: Where?
By Oregonian2 on 11/30/2007 1:59:42 PM , Rating: 3
.. or it could be that the 360 outsold them by 3:1. If so, it'd still be correct to say that uSoft's claimed 2:1 is wrong. :-)

RE: Where?
By dl429 on 11/30/2007 2:23:03 PM , Rating: 4
My PS3 is just collecting dust. With games like Halo 3, Mass Effect, and COD 4 with xbox live who needs a PS3? If it wasn't for my blu-ray movie collection the PS3 would be sitting in the used section at Gamestop...

RE: Where?
By Mach Omega on 11/30/2007 4:53:01 PM , Rating: 1
Then you obviously haven't heard of Ratchet and Clank or Uncharted, both of which are easily in the class of Bioshock and Halo3. Don't know much about Mass Effect.

RE: Where?
By BansheeX on 12/1/2007 8:49:38 AM , Rating: 1
Those aren't futuristic shooters, though. MS fans need a gun-toting warrior in a suit of armor for a game to be cool. GoW, Halo, Mass Effect all fit the bill. I'm afraid your foolish genre variety and imagination are obsolete.

Opportunity for a Pay per view
By FITCamaro on 11/30/2007 10:04:40 AM , Rating: 2
Head of the 360 division going head to head with the head of the PS3 division in a no holds bar cage match. I'd watch it. Anyone else? We'll have Dwayne Johnson (The Rock) referee.

RE: Opportunity for a Pay per view
By Chris Peredun on 11/30/2007 10:33:04 AM , Rating: 2
Steve Ballmer was spotted before the match, pumping his fists and screaming that he was going to "[expletive] kill" his opponent. The broadcast ended shortly thereafter as a chair struck the cameraman.

RE: Opportunity for a Pay per view
By MrTeal on 11/30/2007 11:44:05 AM , Rating: 3
As long as he doesn't promise to "eat his children"

RE: Opportunity for a Pay per view
By Rampage on 11/30/2007 8:49:01 PM , Rating: 2
and give praise to allah? :P

RE: Opportunity for a Pay per view
By yost007 on 12/2/2007 11:54:10 AM , Rating: 2
Someone was on Digg watching the Tyson clips. "I don't talk to women unless they fornicate with me".

By Moishe on 11/30/2007 10:01:12 AM , Rating: 2
To see the verbal sparring :)

and I'm sure it will be funny to see the fanboy flame-war on both sides! I know that I personally am looking forward to reading the threads that ensue!

RE: funny
By akugami on 11/30/2007 11:03:16 AM , Rating: 3
How about more Sony lies? Sony has (as has Nintendo and Microsoft) trumpeted sales figures before something like the NPD or it's equivalent in other regions put out sales numbers.

A simple "no comment" would have suffice and while the fanboys would have continued with their little arguments at least Sony doesn't look like a fool (yet again).

Who cares
By PAPutzback on 11/30/2007 11:40:33 AM , Rating: 4
How about some news worth reading. Like, where can I find a WII in stock and when will the 3870s drop down to there original price at newegg. There is no way I am paying 8800GT price for a 3870. It is a sad day when NewEgg gouges.

By BansheeX on 11/30/2007 12:27:27 PM , Rating: 2
...Britney Spears outsells a great band you've never heard of. Britney fans rejoice that she is the best.

RE: Meanwhile...
By Malhavoc on 11/30/2007 1:15:49 PM , Rating: 2
When I read this, I was thinking WOW, just what I was reading all of this Wii vs 360 vs PS3 crap.

Half of 350k is not 155k
By shaunbed on 11/30/07, Rating: 0
RE: Half of 350k is not 155k
By shaunbed on 11/30/2007 10:13:30 AM , Rating: 2
I retract my comment.. I wasn't reading carefully. 350k is Nintendo's number.

MS vs Sony
By Bioniccrackmonk on 11/30/2007 11:17:22 AM , Rating: 2
MS: Our system outsold your system by 2:1.

Sony: We are rubber, you are glue, whatever you say bounces off us and sticks to you.

MS: (sticks tongue out and makes pppphhhbbbttt sound)

Sony: Real mature.

MS: Your mom.

Both: Wrestles around until one lands a shot and both go home crying foul.

This will continue until both systems are under $200 and then we can start at adolescence again with the next generation.

By Haltech on 11/30/2007 5:54:31 PM , Rating: 2
they did not outsell PS3 2:1 during Black Friday week

It was 3:1
hahahaha jk

In other related news ...
By Chris Peredun on 11/30/2007 9:59:43 AM , Rating: 2
Cats and dogs continue fighting, and oil and water show no signs of reaching an agreement. Story at 11.

RE: In other related news ...
By mmntech on 11/30/07, Rating: -1
I don't think so.
By Sungpooz on 11/30/07, Rating: -1
The real reason...
By MaceDew on 11/30/07, Rating: -1
RE: The real reason...
By Moishe on 11/30/2007 10:13:27 AM , Rating: 2
hahaha! Congratz on being the first fanboy post (of many!)

*grabbing the popcorn*

RE: The real reason...
By Chaser on 11/30/2007 10:19:17 AM , Rating: 2
HA HA HA HA! I'm a PS3 fanboy I guess but dude thats over the top. I can't stop laughing. But that was stupid.

RE: The real reason...
By MonkeyPaw on 11/30/2007 11:35:32 AM , Rating: 3
The funniest part is that he posted the exact same thing in another DT report regarding 360 sales. Strangely enough, it has the exact same rating of -1.

DT has a +6 for really good posts, perhaps they should introduce a -6 for really bad ones.

RE: The real reason...
By MaceDew on 12/1/2007 12:16:16 AM , Rating: 2
That's what I get for not look at what article I am under before I post. Plus I knew my post would get a rise out of someone. So I have -1 oh well. I guess that I will have to pick my words better before I post again.

I guess better luck next time.

RE: The real reason...
By StevoLincolnite on 11/30/2007 10:25:01 AM , Rating: 3
So where is this "3D mark for consoles" to show us the performance of these consoles? - So far there has been none to tell the exact performance differences of either machine, for all we know the Xbox 360's GPU is twice as fast as the PS3, and the PS3's CPU is twice as fast as the Xbox's.

Or the Commodore 64 Kicks them both in the butt.

RE: The real reason...
By MaceDew on 11/30/2007 10:34:12 AM , Rating: 2
I'm just going to go get a Famicon and call it quits with all this bickering about who is out selling who. Just take you contollers and go home.

RE: The real reason...
By Moishe on 11/30/2007 11:03:57 AM , Rating: 2
if you wanna go old school all you need is a stick or two and maybe a rock. :) that's what I played with when I was growing up.

RE: The real reason...
By Vanilla Thunder on 11/30/2007 11:04:34 AM , Rating: 2
Get with the program a Jaguar.


RE: The real reason...
By sweetsauce on 11/30/2007 10:46:36 AM , Rating: 1
Oh yeah... Well my dad's xbox360 has better games than your dad's ps3.

RE: The real reason...
By vitul on 11/30/07, Rating: 0
"If a man really wants to make a million dollars, the best way would be to start his own religion." -- Scientology founder L. Ron. Hubbard
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