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Brandon Hill (Blog) - October 6, 2006 2:10 PM
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Microsoft reveals the last interim release of Vista before RTM

It's been a long road for Microsoft's next generation operating system, but things are finally winding down and the light at the end of the tunnel is visible. DailyTech reported earlier this week that Microsoft was putting the finishing touches on Vista RC2 and today it has been released to testers. Windows Vista RC2 (or build 5744.16384 as it's known internally) is available to Vista beta testers via the Microsoft Connect site.

Microsoft’s Jim Allchin had this to say about the last interim release of Vista to testers:

People asked for it, and here it is, Windows Vista RC2!  We wanted you to be the first to get these bits; next week they'll be available to a broader set of customers via MSDN and TechNet.

All your great feedback has helped us focus on nothing but bug fixes over the past month since RC 1 - each and every day.  There are thousands of quality improvements since Windows Vista RC1.  You'll probably notice improvements in performance, application compatibility, as well as fit and finish work.  We will continue improving quality until RTM.  If you are an ISV, please use this build (certainly at least RC1 or later) to get certified.  Visit www.innovateonvista.com for more information on logo certification.

You are integral to this creation and refinement process.  We are just around the corner from RTM and shipping this great product to the world. This will be the last build made available prior to RTM, so please keep the feedback coming so we can hit the finish line.

With all systems go with Vista, Rick Sherlund, an analyst for Goldman Sachs, believes that the operating system will ship on time for businesses (November) and retail customers (late January). As a result, he rated Microsoft as a "buy." Microsoft shares were up 1.83% on the news yesterday.

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Still kills me...
By DigitalFreak on 10/6/2006 2:29:23 PM , Rating: 2
that Microsoft is releasing this to businesses first. Like any sysadmin worth his/her salt would install this within the next two months...




RE: Still kills me...
By webdawg77 on 10/6/2006 2:34:58 PM , Rating: 4
True, but you should have probably said client services / support since sys admin generally only deal with servers, and the server version of Vista won't be out for a while longer yet.

We are still in the process of upgrading all clients to XP from 2K. I seriously doubt we'll turn around in another 6 - 12 months to install Vista. Maybe on a few test boxes, but that will be it for now.


RE: Still kills me...
By stromgald on 10/6/2006 2:41:47 PM , Rating: 1
Yeah, my company is doing a Win2k to XP migration over the next 5-6 months. I hate internal IT support, they suck and they're slow. It really should be outsouced, but my company is slow and quite conservative.

Many companies won't switch over within the next few years at least because 1) its costly, 2) you don't mess with what isn't broken, and 3) they need to wait at least 6 months for all the initial bugs/drivers to be worked out.


RE: Still kills me...
By Spivonious on 10/6/2006 3:52:55 PM , Rating: 1
We're still in the process of upgrading NT4 machines to XP. That, and getting rid of all the old 386 machines. Yay for non-tech companies! :-/


RE: Still kills me...
By Hypernova on 10/6/2006 4:51:38 PM , Rating: 1
Beside a nostalgia and a taste for antiques is there any other reason they are still around? The only instance of continual use I heard is because they are operating equipments equally old.


RE: Still kills me...
By michael2k on 10/6/2006 5:00:09 PM , Rating: 2
Third reason:
They work

Do you throw away working things because newer things exist, as a rule? Like a ten year old car, or a five year old TV, or a six month old pair of shoes?


RE: Still kills me...
By MonkeyPaw on 10/6/2006 5:26:22 PM , Rating: 3
It's not quite the same. Just because a machine "works" doesn't mean that it isn't hampering productivity. I have seen a 486 machine powering a nuclear reactor (at a university), but I imagine this is because the reactor systems don't require anything faster. On the other hand, if you gave me a 486 at the office, I would probably go insane.


RE: Still kills me...
By Scorpion on 10/6/2006 6:27:56 PM , Rating: 4
What you all fail to realize is that a lot of these machines that are "controlling" things, and are running programs specifically designed for that purpose on THAT platform. I've seen this many times and I'm not a regular IT person, but I have seen this many times in the world of engineering.

It's literally a combination of "it's not broke so why fix it" and "it may be too costly to upgrade it" just for better integration into the rest of the network model.

I have seen software packages that were written for Win95/98 using highly outdated programming platforms/libraries. These programs will not run on newer operating systems. Sometimes the companies that wrote these go out of business or stop supporting them and they are never upgraded to run on newer platforms. Sometimes another vendor will pick up support or offer a way to migrate the system to interface with their software on a newer platform. But these are highly complex and expensive, and depending on the function of the machine, the downtime or interference required for migration may not be acceptable. There are just many many reason why these old "things" are still around.

Fortunatly we've shifted programming methodologies and practices to be more friendly to future adaptations. This is most noticable in the Open Source movement. By building applications within a framework that can be easily adapted to newer platforms, in the future we will see less of this old style of writing proprietary undocumented unsupported software which only works within a rigid framework.


RE: Still kills me...
By TomZ on 10/6/2006 7:42:29 PM , Rating: 3
Open source doesn't solve this issue at all. For example, suppose you design an app based on a complex open-source library, and then the developers of that library lose interest and move onto something else. The learning curve in this case could be big enough to create the same situation as what you describe with COTS. I've seen this happen a number of times already.


RE: Still kills me...
By Ringold on 10/7/2006 3:19:08 AM , Rating: 4
I dont know enough to say TOO much here, but I have followed a few open source game projects enough to know what you say is true.

In some cases, it's a game from scratch. Dev loses interests, others have the code but because the dev didn't spend half his time making notes and its fairly complicated, project dies.

Alternatively, some people CAN understand it, but either out of vanity or simply it being easier, they carry on the project by starting over from scratch, again. Some times in entirely different programming languages -- just for fun.

No, open source itself isn't a solution at all.


RE: Still kills me...
By KashGarinn on 10/9/2006 6:07:27 AM , Rating: 2
Alot of older computers are doing specific tasks which solely run on those machines, and run just fine on those machines.

I wouldn't recommend upgrading them, same as I wouldn't recommend you upgrade your router just because there's a new type available.

I also would not recommend people upgrade their workstations or home computers to vista if people are comfortable with their setup just as it is. Vista is a very slow operating system compared to XP or 2k, so in alot of computers who have less than 1GB memory, or 2.5GHZ or less cpu, or a 128MB vidcard or less, your experience will suck, and productivity will lessen because of that, not increase like they lie about (why the goddamn marketers think they have the right to lie in their ads, I've no idea).

Plus it'll be buggy, you'll be annoyed by the crap user-safety-warning which take incredibly long to appear after the screen goes black (yes, when a security warning comes up, the screen goes black for half a second, then the window comes up with the rest of the gui as greyed out [as a 'security measure' you can't do anything else], then when you finish clicking 'yes' for the thousandth time that session, the screen goes black again for half a second and normal window pops up again). Don't think it'll be a big deal? Yes it will.. it's seriously annoying and the time needs to be downcut down to 0.1 second for each black screen before people will think it's acceptable.

Oh, and that new aero thing? It's crap as well.. programs need to support it and lots, and I mean lots of programs do not.. and that means it'll switch from 'cool' aero to 2d aero each time you start one of those, and that jars the experience, and it's slooooow switching between them as well as being sluggish.

So my advice, don't switch to vista. you will be disappointed, your productivity will lessen, and you will have to splurge money sooner on a new computer than you would just staying with winxp or 2k.

If you're still interested in vista and would like to switch, I recommend you wait until the lifetime on your current computer runs out, then just buy a pc with vista.


RE: Still kills me...
By TomZ on 10/9/2006 9:45:14 AM , Rating: 3
I just loaded Vista RC2 on my 850MHz/512MB 5-year old laptop over the weekend, and I have to disagree with everything you said about Vista. It runs just as well as XP did on that machine, and I haven't run into any issues at all. It even loaded my legacy XP drivers without any problems and runs all my apps just fine. Seems like you just have some kind of axe to grind - it is clear you are not being objective.


RE: Still kills me...
By smitty3268 on 10/6/2006 4:56:04 PM , Rating: 2
We just finished our migration from Win2000 to XP last month. Sometime I'll have to ask someone why we even did it. Seems like we could have stuck with 2000 another 2-3 years and then upgraded straight to Vista.


RE: Still kills me...
By andrep74 on 10/6/2006 7:02:31 PM , Rating: 2
Vista has some pretty hefty requirements compared to Windows XP. Also, from a support standpoint Windows XP is much more similar to Windows 2000 than Vista is.


RE: Still kills me...
By bob661 on 10/6/2006 3:17:50 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
We are still in the process of upgrading all clients to XP from 2K.
You guys are just now doing that? XP was proven stable and reliable two years ago. Was it not in the budget?


RE: Still kills me...
By jelifah on 10/6/2006 3:22:20 PM , Rating: 2
Holy crap, so I'm not the only one? I work for a large Government Organization and we are in the pre-prod and test phase to roll from Windows 2000 to Windows XP.

quote:
Was it not in the budget?
Dude, it's never in the budget.


RE: Still kills me...
By UNCjigga on 10/6/2006 4:02:23 PM , Rating: 2
LOL, I work for a major Fortune 500 company in a headquarters business office, and our execs are just being upgraded to XP over the next few months. Its a painful process--I think all new client machines installed over the past year+ have been XP (mine included) but getting the existing users to upgrade is always a hassle.


RE: Still kills me...
By MonkeyPaw on 10/6/2006 5:31:23 PM , Rating: 2
Same thing where I work. We migrated from NT4.0 to XP last year. Yes, I had a Pentium 4 on my desk running Windows NT. The sad thing is, the machines were equipped to run NT, having a mere 256mb of RAM (which it shares with the IGP). For NT, this was all well and great, but for an XP install with several monitoring services running in the background, it's a working nightmare. Heck, even an 8mb database can give it fits.


RE: Still kills me...
By webdawg77 on 10/6/2006 8:49:04 PM , Rating: 3
Budget was not the reason. The reason is with all the different applications to test including in-house apps, VPN connectivity, biometrics, wireless technology, and various other concerns.

Also, with 100s of clients to update and no automated system in place, the sheer amount of time it takes to update all of the clients (desktops and notebooks - getting people to actually bring them in) is a major concern.

Finally, being state government, we have 3 main bosses who don't care that something is all nice and new. They care that they can get things to work like before. You don't change something on them unless you are 100% sure. Otherwise, you'll be looking for a new job :).

And as I recall, SP2 came out 2 years ago and caused quite a few headaches. Also, it was only recently that you could no longer get 2K SP4 preinstalled on a PC.

True, I'd love it if they were all updated to XP, but some things don't happen as fast as we'd all like :).


RE: Still kills me...
By therealnickdanger on 10/6/2006 2:39:46 PM , Rating: 3
I'm willing to bet that Microsoft is doing that because they probably did more (i.e.: any) research on the market than anonymous posters on the Internet. They wouldn't do it arbitrarily, a high degree of people must want it. A company as successful as MS didn't get where they are by releasing products that no one buys.


RE: Still kills me...
By webdawg77 on 10/6/06, Rating: -1
RE: Still kills me...
By GreenEnvt on 10/6/2006 3:05:20 PM , Rating: 2
My office is about 50 pc's, 3 servers. I'll get Vista running on some test boxes as soon as I can get it, and if I don't find any major issues, start loading it on new pc's as we purchase them.
Out office is totally XP machines (and servers 2003) now other then some public use laptops still on 2k as I don't feel like upgrading them :)

Our current PC's I wouldn't want to run Vista on, they are all P4's with 512mb ram, but several laptops will run it quite well.

RC1 was pretty good, so here's hoping RC2 also is.


RE: Still kills me...
By KingViper on 10/6/2006 4:41:54 PM , Rating: 3
Lets not forget that although a business may not install this on all of their machines. It is likely that they will purchase at least one copy, to begin testing their ERP and other software for compatablity. Connecting it to the network, seeing how it responds, etc. Also, Microsoft knows that companies will do this, so it more than likely wont be a big deal if there are a few minor bugs remaining. This gives them enough time to fix those bugs, before the product hits consumers.

Kind of like another level of testing for the OS before the important release.


RE: Still kills me...
By Locutus465 on 10/6/2006 5:49:31 PM , Rating: 2
Actually.. any sysadmin worth their salt would install it! On test PC's, to find out if they are going to have issues down the road migrating to vista. Though not company wide, no.


RE: Still kills me...
By zombiexl on 10/6/2006 6:50:39 PM , Rating: 2
Any software company will have this intalled on at least a few machines for testing before their clients start filtering vista machines into service.

That said it make perfect sense to ship this to partners, and developers (MSDN) early.


RE: Still kills me...
By Wwhat on 10/7/2006 2:38:07 PM , Rating: 1
Currently Vista is releasing new version once a week, I don't think sysadmins would need to bother with that unless they are bored and want to find bugs for microsoft.


RE: Still kills me...
By stubeck on 10/6/2006 8:43:34 PM , Rating: 2
They will, they need to test it first and they also get discounts. Every new OS since 95 I have heard they give the betas to companies first to see how it works out, they're doing the same thing here since its so complex.


RE: Still kills me...
By INeedCache on 10/7/2006 9:26:08 AM , Rating: 2
Any sysadmin worth his/her salt would be loading it up on a standalone machine to be checking it out. At least, any sysadmin in my company. You never really know when the edict will come down the pike to upgrade, even if it isn't being openly discussed presently. I wouldn't want my sysadmin behind the curve.


RE: Still kills me...
By Wwhat on 10/7/2006 2:36:31 PM , Rating: 1
Does vista have any advantage for businesses? apart from as of yet unknown holes and bugs.


RE: Still kills me...
By Wwhat on 10/7/2006 2:47:22 PM , Rating: 1
I know it was suppose to have that encryption of everything, which migh be useful,but I assume they removed that too along the way heh.


RE: Still kills me...
By TomZ on 10/7/2006 3:30:00 PM , Rating: 2
A good place to start is Microsoft's selling points for business:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/businesses/d...

I would expect most businesses to upgrade to WinXP during the Vista phase (those who haven't already), and I would bet it will take another 2-3 years before you see Vista widely used in businesses.


dl link
By nfin1ty on 10/6/2006 7:39:45 PM , Rating: 4
RE: dl link
By Alaa on 10/6/2006 8:37:49 PM , Rating: 1
Where can I get a key from?


RE: dl link
By UserDoesNotExist on 10/6/2006 10:24:57 PM , Rating: 5
Go to www.microsoft.com/vista and click around until you find the Customer Preview Program, and go to the download section. It'll be for RC1. Sign in, and click a couple of buttons, then you'll get a CD key and a download link for RC1. Ignore the download link. The CD key provided will be usable for RC2.

It seems that the webpage for RC2 is still around, I was just able to access it.
http://download.windowsvista.com/preview/rc2/en/do...

If the site does go down, here's the download links and the checksums:

Downloads:

32-Bit
http://download.windowsvista.com/dl/preview/rc2/en...

64-Bit
http://download.windowsvista.com/dl/preview/rc2/en...

Signatures of the ISO files:
32-Bit
MD5 hash: 83cee5f1642d094670147c5350c57762
SHA1 hash: 067CA4F94D001DE6276F08F76EF0780592B64BFD
64-Bit
MD5 hash: 23b213d7342b2e957b3db1d98c0ee3e6
SHA1 hash: 5D8C4BCEE51F6912801800E534F6DB5A22F654AE


RE: dl link
By johnsonx on 10/6/2006 11:05:37 PM , Rating: 2
for a guy who doesn't exist, you have good info.

Funny about that webpage: I'd tried guessing that URL based on past URL's, and I'm 99% sure I tried that exact link before and it didn't work for me. But now that you've posted it, it works fine!

I'm already 600 Megs into a direct download, or I'd probably switch to the Akamai downloader. My download is slowing down, but it's still going; I suppose if it drops below 50% speed, I'll cancel it and switch.


RE: dl link
By Alaa on 10/7/2006 12:12:31 AM , Rating: 2
I went to the customer preview program signed in and can't find a way to register in order to get a key and every time I try to download from there I get an Error message... Do I have to get the Key or It's just optional?


RE: dl link
By Ghostdog on 10/7/2006 5:04:07 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Go to www.microsoft.com/vista and click around until you find the Customer Preview Program, and go to the download section. It'll be for RC1. Sign in, and click a couple of buttons, then you'll get a CD key and a download link for RC1. Ignore the download link. The CD key provided will be usable for RC2.
So the key I got for the RC1 build will work for RC2 as well? I haven´t used the key yet, haven´t gotten around to install Vista yet.

Sorry to be careful - I´m going to try out RC2 while doing a systems upgrade, I don´t want things to go wrong.


RE: dl link
By johnsonx on 10/7/2006 11:53:23 AM , Rating: 2
Yes, any key you get for Vista will work for any release of Vista. I got my keys in June when I signed up for Beta 2. Those keys have worked for Beta 2, Pre-RC1, RC1, RC1-Update and now RC2.



RE: dl link
By Alaa on 10/7/2006 7:27:02 PM , Rating: 2
ya I found and older key and it works :D


RE: dl link
By Chillin1248 (blog) on 10/7/2006 8:42:03 AM , Rating: 2
To get one go to this site and follow the instructions:

http://www.jkg.in/34-how-to-obtain-the-windows-vis...

That is one of the last places you can still get a key from, I personally have several in reserve in case I need them.

Cheers,
-------
Chillin


RE: dl link
By Wwhat on 10/7/2006 2:40:45 PM , Rating: 1
I think microsoft developed vista to trick people into getting a live account, and only for that.


RE: dl link
By johnsonx on 10/6/2006 10:15:39 PM , Rating: 2
anyone have a verified MD5 checksum for the ISO image?


RE: dl link
By Heron Kusanagi on 10/7/2006 12:14:12 AM , Rating: 2
Can anyone tell me how to exactly to do a checksum on the ISO image?


RE: dl link
By tolgae on 10/7/2006 2:50:57 AM , Rating: 2
cpp?
By johnsonx on 10/6/2006 7:20:39 PM , Rating: 2
Any word on when or if RC2 will be made available to the public via the Customer Preview Program? The CPP website still only talks about RC1.




RE: cpp?
By johnsonx on 10/6/2006 10:22:58 PM , Rating: 2
ok, replying to my own post....

The DL link given above seems good. I'm downloading it now; only getting 225KB/s (about 75% of normal speed), but it's moving along.

Presumably the Beta 2 keys I got when I first signed up for the CPP will work fine with this release as they have on Pre-RC1, RC1, and RC1 Update.

oh, the download link for anyone who missed it above:

http://download.windowsvista.com/dl/preview/rc2/en...

Someone will probably post a better link the gives access to the (in)famous Akamai download manager, as well as the 64-bit version and other languages. But 32-bit english is all I want, and the direct download is working fine.


RE: cpp?
By GreenEnvt on 10/7/2006 10:53:19 AM , Rating: 2
Oh man, I love my cable internet...
Currently downloading direct from MS, at 1053kb/s. Estimated time is approx 40 minutes.


RE: cpp?
By TomZ on 10/7/2006 3:32:41 PM , Rating: 2
I'm surprised you're able to get such a high DL speed. My download averaged 80-100KB/s for this release, which is just a fraction of my Internet connection's available bandwidth.


Is this RC2?
By fergitech on 10/6/2006 7:21:45 PM , Rating: 2
There is no mention of RC2 on the connect site. The site only says build 5744. When you first log into the connect site it actually calls it Windows Vista RC1 build 5744, not RC2.




RE: Is this RC2?
By johnsonx on 10/6/2006 10:57:14 PM , Rating: 2
This page:

http://download.windowsvista.com/preview/rc2/en/do...

Seems to confirm that build 5744 is indeed what Microsoft is considering RC2.


RE: Is this RC2?
By TomZ on 10/7/2006 8:34:57 PM , Rating: 2
After installation, this build is labeled "RC2" on the desktop.


i'm sure there are alot of people who think
By S3anister on 10/6/2006 2:43:06 PM , Rating: 3
that this next OS will be crap, i don't think so. and personally i'm glad that there is FINALLY really new tech coming out. (vista, dx10, better physics) etc...




By RussianSensation on 10/6/2006 4:29:17 PM , Rating: 2
...the same was probably said when windows switched from 95 to 98 from 2000 to xp. The bottom line is most people resent change. My first personal system build included XP to start with. I used 95 on my dad's PC and 98 and millenium on my friends' PCs over the years. I cannot provide an expert opinion, but there is no comparison between the user interface, the ease of detecting new devices and layout of various menus and options on Windows XP compared to the older windows OSs. XP is simply better.

Even if Vista is not the best operating system out there (vs. Linux, Apple's OSs) for everyone, it will most likely be better than XP in almost all respects. Plus, if you want to play DX10 games, it's not like you have a choice.


Two Months!!!
By mlittl3 on 10/6/2006 4:29:09 PM , Rating: 2
All you guys complaining about Vista for business being released early are being a little absurd. The difference in release dates is two months. TWO MONTHS!!! Come on. We've been waiting six years, I think you can wait two months.

Besides, just imagine the tech support, roll out program, etc. for the consumer version right before Christmas. MS has had some pretty remarkable launches but they can't perform miracles. Christmas PCs with a stable, proven OS (WinXP) with the option to upgrade as the user sees fit one month later. Sounds very rationale to me.




RE: Two Months!!!
By cgrecu77 on 10/6/2006 5:07:21 PM , Rating: 2
this is a genius move from MS, most people purchase computers on christmas and they will all come with XP. A significant portion of those users will want to upgrade to Vista in less than a year after seeing all the eye candy and being bombarded by marketing campaigns. This way MS will sell both XP and Vista to the same users within a year (even though vista is an upgrade). Some users might decide to wait until Vista comes out, but they will be a small minority, most people who know about vista launch date are not buying their computers from Dells so for MS they don't care (not to mention they probably don't buy their software as well ... :).


Hmm...
By Locutus465 on 10/6/2006 5:48:01 PM , Rating: 2
Not up on MSDN yet... Perhaps it's delayed from this source?




RE: Hmm...
By sotti on 10/6/2006 6:02:22 PM , Rating: 2
yeah MSDN usually lags to monday.


decent
By medavid16 on 10/8/2006 2:01:08 PM , Rating: 2
I've tried the Alpha a long ways back.

I couldn't really see where Microsoft was going with it.

RC1 didn't work on my setup (Intel945, Core2Duo E6700, XFX 7950GX2, 2GB 1066MHZ), happy to report RC2 does actually work, I have a 5.9performance Index, system is very smooth, Aero is what people say it is.

Speech recognition works awesome, despite the demonstration a while back.

Only worry I have are video gaming performance/system drivers, which I have yet to test. Will post as soon as I get a chance.




RE: decent
By BitJunkie on 10/8/2006 7:32:30 PM , Rating: 2
Spent the weekend testing RC2 and can say the following:

1) Fresh install works fine, upgrade over existing xpsp2 is a bit of a mess still - due to compatibility issues between software and drivers

2) The experience is great if you stick to office apps and media centre. If you try gaming it might get a bit flakey. Although the bundled chess game is very cool :)

3)I have a problem where my NF4 NIC keeps "forgetting" it's driver and locking up when I try to use P2P downloads.

4) GF7950 GX2 is still a pain - can't get it to recognise the second GPU and it keeps locking up in certain games.

I'm guessing the last two are nvidia driver issues. There's an option to install old software in a compatibility mode...for xpsp2 for example...that worked with some legacy drivers, but only to hack a solution, I guess it's not recommended by MS.

I cried when I uninstalled it so I can get a reliable gaming experience again. Got to say I love the feel of the UI and the overall experience now - first time i've taken a look since beta 2. Yeah, I'll be buying a copy when I can get my hands on it.


Rc2 no longer
By electriple9 on 10/12/2006 11:32:50 AM , Rating: 2
You cannot download Rc2 anymore
Thanks




RE: Rc2 no longer
By johnsonx on 10/12/2006 12:19:19 PM , Rating: 2
Yep, the RC2 links all re-direct to the Vista home page.

I get the impression Microsoft prefers that the builds other than RC1 only be used for short-term testing. If you want to run Vista on a daily basis, they seem to push you towards RC1. When I downloaded RC1-Update and RC2, they had a note basically saying that they may not support it much via Windows Update, and that you may not be able to upgrade to retail from anything other than RC1.

It all makes me wonder if I did the right thing by putting RC2 on two systems; perhaps I should go back to RC1.


3 D desktop
By crystal clear on 10/7/2006 7:44:23 AM , Rating: 2
This is for those testing Vista RC2-
Any changes/improvements on 3D desktop -gaming in mind.
Interested to hear on this.




RC2
By zsdersw on 10/7/2006 9:11:05 AM , Rating: 2
Well, last night I downloaded both the 32-bit and 64-bit versions of RC2.. and this morning I installed the 64-bit version over the top of my 64-bit build 5728 installation. Compared to build 5728 (RC1 Update 1), I don't see anything significantly different. Maybe, and this could just be a percepted difference and not an actual difference, the system seems snappier.. but that's about it. If you're going from RC1 (build 5600) or anything prior to RC2 you'll probably notice more differences.

Of course, this is all done with another hard drive.. so I can boot back into XP if I want to or need to.




interesting
By valkator on 10/9/2006 4:10:36 PM , Rating: 2
For most companies and the company I work for in IT, they will wait until the first major service pack comes out. Once that has come out for Vista, then companies will usually check out the licensing or buy volume licenses to the OS. Which I believe is the best way to do it. Although, like said before, why spend half a mil on licensing if XP/2k is working well right now? They must do quite a bit of convincing to get Vista or Microsoft will start making software Vista exclusive. HA!




Great I can finally try it out.
By chenbenjamin on 10/6/06, Rating: -1
RE: Great I can finally try it out.
By FITCamaro on 10/6/2006 3:27:28 PM , Rating: 1
You tested it in Alpha and got a bad taste.....have you yet figured out how dumb that is? It's Alpha. The beginning. AKA, nothing really works. Thats like testing a game in Alpha and deciding not to buy it then and there because it has bugs.

I tested Beta 1, Feb CTP, July CTP, and Beta 2. Each one got a little better but even in Beta 1 it was usable.

Gotta love people who make decisions of products on not even beta versions.


By Hypernova on 10/6/2006 4:48:47 PM , Rating: 3
Alpha's are by definition crap, sad to see that some one actually forms an decision on that experience alone.


Very good news!
By kibets on 10/6/06, Rating: -1
RE: Very good news!
By UserDoesNotExist on 10/6/06, Rating: -1
RE: Very good news!
By Rage187 on 10/6/2006 3:10:51 PM , Rating: 2
probably cause he's advertising for his or his buddies site.


RE: Very good news!
By kibets on 10/6/06, Rating: -1
RE: Very good news!
By cnimativ on 10/6/2006 3:42:14 PM , Rating: 2
why try to advertise sites :S


RE: Very good news!
By mb on 10/6/2006 5:44:21 PM , Rating: 2
Demetri Martin is hilarious, but WTF does that site have to do with Vista besides the icon on the bottom left?


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