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Looking past initial high priced Origami devices, Microsoft plans ahead to Vista-based UMPCs

It looks like Microsoft's Origami project will turn out to be a bit heavier on consumer pockets than the technology giant was hoping it would be. The initial high prices of the first UMPC devices was probably due to manufacturer's hardware specifications and the additional features added into each particular UMPC.

The original Origami guidelines worked a version of Windows XP into the option for the operating system but Microsoft is now looking at the future with Vista being the choice for the new devices. The so-called "Vistagami" devices are the successors to the Windows XP-based UMPC devices which we probably won't see out until after Microsoft's Vista operating system is launched.  However, Microsoft representatives say UMPC Vista devices based on the should be ready for a simultaneous platform launch with retail desktops and notebooks.

According to News.com the Vistagami devices will require the Home Premium, Ultimate or business versions of Vista because the devices will utilize tablet features those version will have built in.

Pricing on these devices is a major concern to Microsoft as they were hoping to see devices based on the Origami design at around $600, but we have yet to see manufacturers offering products priced anywhere close to that. Samsung's Q1 was recently seen on preorder at both e-tailers and brick and mortar shops for over $1000. And though these devices are being launched with an abundance of features the pricing reflects this.

Microsoft also hinted at launching variations of the original UMPC platform at WinHEC with models designed specifically for certain tasks such as playing back media, educational use, mobile solutions for businesses which require information on the go, as well as a design that showed similarities to the XBOX 360 console in a UMPC package. Could Microsoft's video game division be planning on getting into the portable gaming market afterall?


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The Next Bestseller..
By crystal clear on 5/28/2006 3:14:16 AM , Rating: 1
I see in this product the next best seller on the way after
X Box 360.
Yes Apple & Sony will jump in with their competing versions.
The potential for this technology is immense from gaming to
cellphones-from business applications to home use.
If pricing is the factor it could be solved by grading the product(features etc) ultra high end,high end,medium,low end etc.
Add in Nvidia technology to this product to give it the final punch.
Some thing exciting on the way




RE: The Next Bestseller..
By Deadalus on 5/28/2006 4:48:50 AM , Rating: 2
Yes, Sony could release some kind of portable gaming, music and video device! :-)


RE: The Next Bestseller..
By jtesoro on 5/29/2006 12:43:06 AM , Rating: 2
Sony already has the PlayStation and since this new device will be carried around, they can call it PlayStation Portable or something :)


This is what will happen:
By Cunthor01 on 5/28/2006 6:36:42 AM , Rating: 2
Apple will come along and make a UMPC, everyone will notice it due to Apples 'hip' marketing, and the whole world will be convinced that Steve Jobs invented the wheel (possibly right after he concieved the idea of 'fire')

I hope this becomes around the same price as a high end HDD based video player (like Epson P2000)or less.



RE: The Next Bestseller..
By dice1111 on 5/29/2006 10:56:26 AM , Rating: 2
I think I'd like see ATI tech in this product. Considering their huge push into the mobile market and partnering up with the likes of Nokia, we would easily see more feature rich and power efficient imaging hardware then Nvidia's current offering.


If at first you don't succeed...
By phisrow on 5/28/2006 5:27:21 AM , Rating: 2
Try, try again...




RE: If at first you don't succeed...
By tuteja1986 on 5/28/2006 5:46:43 AM , Rating: 1
Did they even made any money out of the Origami project :? It really bad device that has battery issue , didn't have a keyboard and didn't have mobile function. It was too big and couldn't do one thing perfectly which was major reason for its failure.


Also when media asked Microsoft PR about what market were they targeting with Origami and they couldn't even answer that question properly.


RE: If at first you don't succeed...
By crystal clear on 5/28/2006 5:54:07 AM , Rating: 2
A product review by Anand on his website or Daily tech will clear all issues if good or bad or pros & cons etc.
I prefer to wait before jumping to conclusions.


By ToeCutter on 5/29/2006 1:15:17 PM , Rating: 2
Crystal Clear sounds a little hazy.

There have been dozens of reviews of the UMPCs that have been released so far, I'm not sure what you're waiting to discover?

The UMPC design was to offer a small form factor PC priced between a notebook and existing PDAs. This never happened. In fact, UMPCs are actually priced considerably higher than entry level notebooks. The Sony UMPC is priced at nearly $2000 retail, almost 4x the cost projected my Microsoft when they first started discussing UMPCs.

The sad truth is that at these prices, UMPCs are competing directly with notebooks, which offer far more functionality. OEMs will never be able to offer them at lower prices as they'll never be able to acheive the volume neccessary to reduce production costs.

This platform was stillborn on arrival. It'll never succeed in penetrating the mainstream, regardless of Vista.


Buy a laptop
By peternelson on 5/28/2006 5:26:26 AM , Rating: 2
"Showed similarities to the xbox 360"

No, I don't think so, it doesn't have three powerpc cores running 6 threads.

It looks like a PSP to me.

And why would I want one of these when I could have a proper laptop for $600 - even with a keyboard!




RE: Buy a laptop
By crystal clear on 5/28/2006 5:47:34 AM , Rating: 2
Personal choice/preferences is a deciding factor for any piece of hardware.You like a laptop others may not.

Surprising to say this but there are many who feel laptops are slow at start up,bulky,not so convinient etc & many more reasons against it.It all depends who is the user & what he wants.
We are not all the same


By Heatlesssun on 5/28/2006 11:51:27 AM , Rating: 2
Like the Tablet PC, I think most are having an issue with price of these devices. If they were running at say $500 for something like the Samsung Q1, these things would sell themsevles. $500 for a full PC that's more mobile than a laptop, though a little underpowered, is a good deal.

I'd love on of these things, as its pretty mobile and I can tether it to my cell phone for anywhere broadband, with a far better display than that of a Pocket PC.

These things have the potential to be big if they can make them half the price and get some kind of gaming platform on them. A though task, and maybe a long road, but I think that Microsoft is committed to this platform. It doesn't really have a huge cost to them since this technology is now rolled into the OS anyway, just a matter of price, and I think that's simply just a matter of time.




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