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Microsoft to offer upgrades to Windows 7 for $30 to college students.
Its a good time to be a student, thanks in part to a sweet Windows 7 discount from Microsoft

Windows 7 is getting closer to its October 22 launch date.  With improved security, better compatibility, and a slick new look, the OS should please owners of both powerful and underpowered machines alike.  Microsoft has already offered hot pre-order deals, but now it has announced its sweetest deal of them all.

Students with a valid student email address are eligible to get a copy of Windows 7 Home Premium or Professional, 32-bit or 64-bit (your choice, presumably some might pick the lighter Home Premium for netbooks) for a mere $30.  And with one announcement, Microsoft has essentially matched Apple's OS price point for one of its most pivotal demographics -- students.

Apple beat Windows 7 to the market and has been loudly trumpeting that its Snow Leopard -- priced at $29 per license -- beats Windows 7 in prices.  However, students in the U.S., U.K, Australia, Canada, France, Germany, Korea and Mexico will now have their pick between the two competitors at virtually identical prices.

With Snow Leopard, students will get several key improvements (virtually all of Apple's core software was fine-tuned and sped up), but the release falls somewhere between a full Windows OS release and a Windows Service Pack.  For an equivalent price they can get Windows 7, a full OS release packing many features that have drawn rave reviews from early adopters.  The deal is sweet for users of traditional PC hardware and Macs alike, as even Mac users can take advantage of it to equip their Boot Camp Macs with Windows 7 for gaming and Windows-favored activities.

The deal is found on the win741.com site, a recently launched site from Microsoft, which calls the offer "too sweet to pass up."  The site proclaims, "For a limited time, eligible college students can get the sweetest deal on Windows 7 - for only $29.99 USD.  That's less than most of your textbooks! Hurry -- offer ends January 3, 2010 and 12 a.m. CST."

One major appeal of the deal is that with Windows 7 and a netbook, students get about the most portable and affordable bundle possible for a fully functional computer.

The move seems a smart one, given that Apple does have Microsoft beat on standard prices, with a copy of Home Premium (upgrade) retailing for $120 and $200 for a Professional upgrade (versus $29 for Snow Leopard).  With the price bar set nearly four times as high as Apple's, the pressure is on Microsoft to deliver a dynamite product -- which indications show it will.

Still, Snow Leopard's aggressive pricing has caused it to double the initial sales of its predecessor, Leopard, and quadruple the sales of Tiger.  Apple has also been much more aggressive in targeting school children, with programs such as "Field Trip to the Apple Store" in the U.S. and Canada.  Many schools continue to use Mac computers primarily.  All of this bodes well for Apple's long term success.  However, Microsoft is at last making a legitimate bid to seize this important demographic from Apple.



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Nice
By damianrobertjones on 9/18/2009 11:19:27 AM , Rating: 5
A great way to get great press and a perfect way to stick it to apple.

Well done MS.

Then again, I'm not a student. Dammit.




RE: Nice
By scooterlibby on 9/18/2009 11:26:00 AM , Rating: 3
Noob question here, but, because it is the upgrade, I cannot do a fresh install, correct? My understanding is that I have to first have Vista installed and then use the upgrade.


RE: Nice
By Protocept00 on 9/18/2009 11:45:12 AM , Rating: 2
I could also use some clarification on this. As I understand so far, an upgrade license is not the same as an "in-place" upgrade. An upgrade license is a cheaper price on a newer operating systems for owners of older Windows Software as specified by Microsoft. Correct me if I'm wrong.


RE: Nice
By orgy08 on 9/18/2009 12:24:38 PM , Rating: 2
I would like to know also. I'm planning on building a new computer in a couple of months, which means I would need the full version? I will most likely get the OEM full install, but if the $30 student version will help, I would rather get that.


RE: Nice
By damianrobertjones on 9/18/2009 1:12:45 PM , Rating: 2
RE: Nice
By damianrobertjones on 9/18/2009 1:16:05 PM , Rating: 2
RE: Nice
By TomZ on 9/18/2009 1:31:53 PM , Rating: 5
FYI, the DailyTech website already shortens the display text for long links, so there's generally no need to using tinyurl links.


RE: Nice
By damianrobertjones on 9/18/2009 4:28:09 PM , Rating: 4
Yay. ...But I like using tinyurl.com!?

Oh well


RE: Nice
By Lifted on 9/19/2009 4:27:24 AM , Rating: 5
Fair enough, but some people don't like to click on links when they don't know where they go. And installing an add-on to figure out where they go is not always an option either.


RE: Nice
By monkeyman1140 on 9/21/2009 4:28:48 PM , Rating: 2
Given the existence of websites like lemonparty and meatspin, i NEVER click on tinyurls...


RE: Nice
By JPForums on 9/21/2009 7:55:57 AM , Rating: 2
$30 would be great, but make sure you don't need Professional as I can't seem to find it there.

quote:
Students with a valid student email address are eligible to get a copy of Windows 7 Home Premium or Professional, 32-bit or 64-bit (your choice, presumably some might pick the lighter Home Premium for netbooks) for a mere $30.


I went to the website and all I see is Home Premium. If you can really get Professional, as the author suggests, please show me how. I can build websites, but it seems I'm incapable of navigating them properly.


RE: Nice
By JPForums on 9/21/2009 8:02:20 AM , Rating: 2
I should clarify that I do see some info regarding Professional, but when I click to buy, it takes me to a page where it asks for my e-mail address and shows Home Premium.

I could be that they give you the choice later, but I'd rather not submit my credentials until I know whether or not this will saddle me to Home Premium.


RE: Nice
By weskurtz0081 on 9/21/2009 12:40:50 PM , Rating: 4
I actually just found the Profession option. In a yellow bar below Home Premium, it asks if you need to join your school network domain, and if you click that Professional pops up instead. It seems they are trying to steer people towards Home Premium instead of Pro.


RE: Nice
By Jacerie on 9/21/2009 1:59:44 PM , Rating: 2
This is not such a big deal when you stop to think about how very few people need to actually join their computers to a domain. Seeing as how this deal is for students, I would highly doubt that the majority of them would ever need this functionality. Yes, there will be exceptions where you have CS/IS students with their own domains, and possibly being connected directly to one of the campus domains, but definitely not the norm.


RE: Nice
By weskurtz0081 on 9/21/2009 2:19:46 PM , Rating: 2
It's not a big deal at all, merely an observation.


RE: Nice
By sebmel on 9/18/2009 1:12:55 PM , Rating: 2
I'm interested in knowing if clear instals are possible with this upgrade disc, too.

Just a note: the Apple DVD is sold as upgrade but does clean instals without and serial number, LAN checks or internet/phone activation. So, is that what this what Microsoft offers too?


RE: Nice
By damianrobertjones on 9/18/2009 4:30:27 PM , Rating: 1
Then again, you can use the upgrade on any pc with many, many different configs. Does apple offer that as well?


RE: Nice
By Smilin on 9/18/2009 4:45:12 PM , Rating: 2
MS has always allowed a clean install with upgrade media. You just need to own the previous version. Nothing new here.


RE: Nice
By Diesel Donkey on 9/18/2009 5:04:21 PM , Rating: 3
I think it actually is different this time around. This time you need to have the old OS installed before you can upgrade. What I mean is that it's no longer enough just to enter the old serial number while installing the upgrade.


RE: Nice
By Spivonious on 9/18/2009 1:17:07 PM , Rating: 3
You can do a clean install with the upgrade but you will need Vista installed on the machine. A simple disc check no longer does the trick.

Although, the rumor is that the old Vista trick will work with 7. You clean install 7 without entering the serial number or activating. Then you install 7 again and it finds the existing 7 install as a valid upgradeable OS.


RE: Nice
By The0ne on 9/18/2009 1:26:54 PM , Rating: 2
What you've just stated isn't a "clean" install, but nice tips.


RE: Nice
By therealnickdanger on 9/18/2009 1:36:08 PM , Rating: 2
As I understand it, both Vista and 7 do a clean install even when upgrading. Unlike XP, Vista and 7 are both image-installations for starters. Both installers will completely overwrite the volume with the new OS and wipe leftover data, saving you the step of DBAN-ing (or whatever your preferred wipe method is). There is little to no benefit to performing a "clean" install.

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2089952...


RE: Nice
By Silver2k7 on 9/19/2009 3:18:49 AM , Rating: 3
"As I understand it, both Vista and 7 do a clean install even when upgrading."

"Both installers will completely overwrite the volume with the new OS and wipe leftover data"

So you still need to have an installed os.. would be better if you just had to enter your old serial number when installing the upgrade version.


RE: Nice
By therealnickdanger on 9/21/2009 5:21:19 AM , Rating: 2
Oh, I thought he was complaining that you couldn't do a clean install with the upgrade.


RE: Nice
By Nekrik on 9/18/2009 1:30:57 PM , Rating: 3
That's not accurate, the link posted above has the details on how to do a clean install. If you have Vista you can do an in-place upgrade, if you have XP or don't want to do an in-place upgrade you can do a clean install (save your data first). Here's the link from above with the info, it's about the middle of the article:

http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-s...


RE: Nice
By geddarkstorm on 9/18/2009 4:16:43 PM , Rating: 2
According to Ars, if you have Windows XP you can buy and use the cheaper upgrade version (what is offered here), you'll just have to do a fresh install rather than direct upgrade, which the "upgrade" version disc can do (called custom install). http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2009/02/upgr...


RE: Nice
By walk2k on 9/19/2009 3:36:37 PM , Rating: 2
Yes you must have Vista installed - OR- Windows7 RC but only if you buy the "Ultimate" version since that's what RC is (you can't upgrade from one tier to another, ie "Home" to "Business" etc).

You cannot upgrade from XP or earlier windows at all.


RE: Nice
By amandahugnkiss on 9/19/2009 6:11:22 PM , Rating: 2
That is flat out wrong information you are giving out. As several other people posted links above, here is how to do a clean install from XP with the Win7 upgrade disks:

http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-s...

If you already have Vista installed you can do an in-place upgrade, if you have XP you must do a clean install with the Win7 upgrade DVD.


RE: Nice
By hadifa on 9/24/2009 1:49:58 AM , Rating: 3
I went to the link and this seems to not be the upgrade version but rather the full windows 7 where you can do a clean install. Nowhere it says upgrade and the FAQ seems to be geared towards full version. For example:

From their FAQ:

My PC is running Windows XP. Can I upgrade it to Windows 7?

If you’re thinking about upgrading a PC from Windows XP to Windows 7, please download and run the free Windows Upgrade Advisor to see if your PC can run Windows 7 acceptably.

If you decide to install Windows 7 on a PC running Windows XP, you’ll need to do a custom installation. This is sometimes called a “clean install” because it erases the contents of your PC. To avoid losing anything, you’ll need to make copies of all the files, photos, and other information you want to keep. You’ll also need to have installation disks for all the programs you want to use.


RE: Nice
By koenshaku on 9/18/09, Rating: -1
RE: Nice
By BrandtTheMan on 9/18/2009 2:00:40 PM , Rating: 1
So no one has a true answer then? Come on D-T :)


RE: Nice
By TomZ on 9/18/2009 2:25:44 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
I am typing this on snow leopard too..
No need to apologize. :o)


RE: Nice
By blwest on 9/19/09, Rating: 0
RE: Nice
By hiscross on 9/18/09, Rating: -1
RE: Nice
By dark matter on 9/18/2009 2:29:39 PM , Rating: 5
Actually the really smart students wouldn't dream of using peer 2 peer to get their warez. Obviously I cannot condone piracy so I can't let you in on the secret. ;)


RE: Nice
By anotherdude on 9/18/2009 2:30:45 PM , Rating: 4
quote:
The Smart students use pirate bay and load windoze on the VM or bootcamp partition.


If by smart you mean 'thieving smug Mactard' then yes, very smart


RE: Nice
By SiliconAddict on 9/19/2009 1:51:56 AM , Rating: 1
I prefer iTards. It stays consistent with Apple's themeing.


RE: Nice
By Totally on 9/18/2009 4:30:43 PM , Rating: 2
Actually, Pirate Bay, totally dumb. Especially when round 3 of lawsuits are being doled out.


RE: Nice
By damianrobertjones on 9/18/2009 4:36:24 PM , Rating: 4
WHat a bunch of crap. Being smart has NOTHING to do with running a damn computer. Heck, a person may never have even used a computer and still be smart.

Sick to the teeth of all this rubbish. Waa, apple is better, waa MS is better. Waaahhh, XBOX360, Waaahh PS3

GET A LIFE. I must now also do the same :)


RE: Nice
By themaster08 on 9/20/2009 5:13:44 AM , Rating: 1
There's something that baffles me here...

You spend 3 grand on an underpowered, unproductive system, but can't find the extra $30 to make that clown of a computer something worth using.

You call that being smart?

Then again, smart people wouldn't choose a Mac at all if they needed to use Windows.


RE: Nice
By Entropy42 on 9/18/2009 4:36:42 PM , Rating: 2
Even with a .edu email address, note that they reserve the right to ask you for proof of enrollment (at least .5 credits) and charge you the difference between $30 and full retail if you can't/won't provide that proof.


RE: Nice
By jhb116 on 9/18/2009 6:12:43 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah but - It would have been fantastic if they would have gone to 28.98 and then poke Apple on their advertising. :)


Big Deal.
By 67STANG on 9/18/2009 10:56:08 AM , Rating: 2
Torrent sites have been offering Windows 7 to students for free.




RE: Big Deal.
By Visual on 9/18/2009 11:10:20 AM , Rating: 3
You're trying to be funny about it, but there are actually ways that students can get Windows 7 for free, and legally too.
Namely, students in universities with acm or ieee memberships have access to a lot of ms software for free, not just windows 7.
Also, even if your university isn't a part of the deal, you can get a pesonal membership for very cheap and still get access.


RE: Big Deal.
By 67STANG on 9/18/2009 1:33:28 PM , Rating: 1
Not trying to be funny, I'm just telling it the way it is. Students are tech savvy and are amongst the heaviest file sharers. You do the math.


RE: Big Deal.
By dark matter on 9/18/2009 2:16:42 PM , Rating: 5
I guess you miss his point.

You would rather obtain an illegal copy for free then ask your university for a legal copy for free?

No wonder our jobs are being outsourced with such sharp minds our students have.


RE: Big Deal.
By TomZ on 9/18/2009 2:50:32 PM , Rating: 2
Yes, not to mention the ethics of the students...


RE: Big Deal.
By mindless1 on 9/18/2009 3:09:42 PM , Rating: 1
Getting it off TPB is illegal but not unethical if they could also get it free another way legally.


RE: Big Deal.
By Suntan on 9/18/2009 3:28:25 PM , Rating: 2
So I can go to the store and steal any and all of the food I see that I could otherwise “plant and grow” for free?

-Suntan


RE: Big Deal.
By 67STANG on 9/18/2009 6:43:33 PM , Rating: 4
Your comparison is apples and oranges.


RE: Big Deal.
By seamonkey79 on 9/20/2009 10:13:02 AM , Rating: 2
Not really, but I suppose if you have no moral compass, one could see it that way.


RE: Big Deal.
By Taft12 on 9/21/2009 10:16:49 AM , Rating: 2
Fallacy, and shame on you because I'll bet you already knew it.

"Plant and grow" is not free and stealing food deprives the storeowner of a physical asset.

This is why illegal copying is not and never will be tantamount to stealing . I am not trying to say it is not unethical, just different.


RE: Big Deal.
By TomZ on 9/18/2009 4:41:34 PM , Rating: 4
quote:
Getting it off TPB is illegal but not unethical if they could also get it free another way legally.
You have an interesting view of ethics.


RE: Big Deal.
By mindless1 on 9/18/09, Rating: -1
RE: Big Deal.
By dark matter on 9/19/2009 7:05:53 AM , Rating: 3
Dude, seriously, if filling out a form is too complicated or finding out who and where to go to obtain it too much hard work can I take your real name so I never ever make the mistake of giving you a job.


RE: Big Deal.
By 67STANG on 9/18/2009 6:53:59 PM , Rating: 1
I didn't miss his point... Not all students can get free copies from their school. Also, it's much easier and faster just to download something than to requisition it-- ethics aside. The school I went to had a single copy of XP Pro floating around the campus that had to be installed on at least 300 different computers.

Also, "Sharp minds" have nothing to do with outsourcing-- economics does.


RE: Big Deal.
By seamonkey79 on 9/20/2009 11:48:25 PM , Rating: 3
"Ethics aside" is a major problem with colleges nowadays...


Tip of the Hat
By ThatNewGuy on 9/18/2009 11:05:13 AM , Rating: 4
Microsoft, I tip my hat to you.




RE: Tip of the Hat
By lightfoot on 9/18/2009 1:53:38 PM , Rating: 5
Wag of the Finger

Apple, I give you the finger.


RE: Tip of the Hat
By dragunover on 9/18/2009 3:29:58 PM , Rating: 3
Nice Stephen Colbert reference, lightfoot.


RE: Tip of the Hat
By blwest on 9/19/09, Rating: 0
RE: Tip of the Hat
By just4U on 9/19/2009 12:31:27 PM , Rating: 3
EVERYONE? Last I heard Apple wasn't offering their OS to the masses..


RE: Tip of the Hat
By Vile2600 on 9/20/2009 3:24:49 AM , Rating: 5
quote:
Why are you tipping your hat? All MS did was offer a discount to STUDENTS. Apple offers their OS to EVERYONE for $30.


You mean the $30 that Apple charges you for their latest Service Pack that they call "Snow Leopard"?


And for people who Pre-ordered for $50???
By KingstonU on 9/18/2009 1:07:19 PM , Rating: 2
So all of us students who pre-ordered at $65+tax (Canada, $50 US) all got screwed.




By TomZ on 9/18/2009 1:33:38 PM , Rating: 5
A good lesson you might not learn in school...preorders usually include the "early adopter tax."


RE: And for people who Pre-ordered for $50???
By cyriene on 9/18/2009 4:29:53 PM , Rating: 2
Sell that copy or cancel the pre-order. Quit crying about getting something cheaper than you would normally.

As for me, I have the pre-order and this copy for both of my computers. Win-WIn!


RE: And for people who Pre-ordered for $50???
By foolsgambit11 on 9/19/2009 3:27:03 AM , Rating: 3
Yes, two copies of Windows is a "Win-Win".

I hope you intended that pun....


RE: And for people who Pre-ordered for $50???
By cyriene on 9/19/2009 9:34:04 AM , Rating: 2
Maybe I did, maybe I didn't...

But if I did, I'd rather not be the douche that says "no pun intended"


"Field Trip to the Apple Store"
By Motoman on 9/18/2009 10:55:30 AM , Rating: 3
...someone please tell me that I'm sleeping and having a nightmare...




RE: "Field Trip to the Apple Store"
By HrilL on 9/18/2009 12:01:02 PM , Rating: 2
They probably give every kid a 10% off coupon as well.

What does the Apple store have to do with learning?


By kattanna on 9/18/2009 12:24:15 PM , Rating: 5
quote:
What does the Apple store have to do with learning?


it serves as an effective method of showing young people what not to grow up as


RE: "Field Trip to the Apple Store"
By acase on 9/18/2009 1:03:03 PM , Rating: 3
Almost as bad as "Field Trip to Neverland Ranch" was about 5 years ago.


Home Premium or Professional?
By AWeav09 on 9/18/2009 11:02:57 AM , Rating: 2
The store is only giving me the option of purchasing a Home Premium upgrade... not a Professional upgrade.

Don't get me wrong, it's still a great deal, and one that I will definitely take advantage of.




RE: Home Premium or Professional?
By ratbert1 on 9/18/2009 11:15:59 AM , Rating: 5
There is another link on the page that says something like "do you need to connect to a domain?". You click that and it takes you to the Pro page.


RE: Home Premium or Professional?
By AWeav09 on 9/18/2009 11:18:18 AM , Rating: 2
Ahhhh I really should have put two and two together when I saw that... thanks a lot though.


RE: Home Premium or Professional?
By CloudFire on 9/19/2009 5:21:26 AM , Rating: 2
Silly question, but I can't seem to find exactly where it is, can you specify a little more in detail ratbert? :) thanks!


RE: Home Premium or Professional?
By dagamer34 on 9/18/2009 11:18:17 AM , Rating: 2
You need to look for when it asks if you need to join a domain for your school. You have to have gotten an e-mail from Microsoft after giving them your e-mail address first. Don't worry, you'll be able to purchase Professional for $30.


And in Canada?
By HaZaRd2K6 on 9/18/2009 1:09:05 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
students in the U.S., U.K, Australia, Canada, France, Germany, Korea and Mexico will now have their pick between the two competitors at virtually identical prices.


How exactly do we get in on that deal? The win741 website is only for US students, so how do the rest of us get it?




RE: And in Canada?
By AnnihilatorX on 9/18/2009 1:24:28 PM , Rating: 2
Indeed. The site lists only US universities:

http://windows7.digitalriver.com/store/mswpus/Cont...


RE: And in Canada?
By gixser on 9/18/2009 4:02:18 PM , Rating: 2
RE: And in Canada?
RE: And in Canada?
By Dobs on 9/18/2009 8:51:35 PM , Rating: 2
Other Microsoft deals for Australian students are at http://itsnotcheating.com.au but it looks like the win741 site will host the win 7 offer as the countries drop-down has "United States" and "Others coming soon".


You have a typo here
By dragunover on 9/18/2009 3:28:19 PM , Rating: 2
"their pick between the two competitors at virtually identical prices."
What about people buying new computers?
Everyone knows Apple charges a huge premium for their mostly samsung/intel parts.




RE: You have a typo here
By Ananke on 9/18/2009 7:49:42 PM , Rating: 2
Best deal was to go to the MS Windows 7 developer show, which will happen in a dozen cities across the country in October, and get Win 7 Ultra developer package FREE :) plus some other interesting things. Of course, too sad that registration was over 30 minutes after the start a month ago :):):)


RE: You have a typo here
By puplan on 9/21/2009 8:53:09 PM , Rating: 2
You can still register for The New Efficiency event in some cities and get a free copy of Windows 7 http://www.microsoft.com/business/thenewefficiency...


RE: You have a typo here
By puplan on 9/21/2009 9:05:18 PM , Rating: 2
Or not. The list of cities shows available seats, but going to registration shows event full.


Incredible!
By Protocept00 on 9/18/2009 11:04:54 AM , Rating: 2
Absolutely incredible deal. This is perfect for me. I planned on upgrading to Windows 7 anyways, but since I'm a college student (Keiser University) I will definitely be getting this. Best deal in a long time!

Wow... thanks Microsoft. I never thought I would honestly say that.

I checked to see if it is compatible with my college. It is. lol YAY!




RE: Incredible!
By dagamer34 on 9/18/2009 11:20:15 AM , Rating: 2
Don't actual college campus stores get a much cheaper version of Windows than this? I remember when I was at UT Austin, I got a copy of Windows Vista Ultimate (full copy) for just $15 or so.


RE: Incredible!
By Protocept00 on 9/18/2009 11:33:53 AM , Rating: 2
Currently I get plenty of free trials that will last me awhile for the majority of Microsoft software, but I am not aware of any deals for Windows 7 at my college. I am sure the campus store will be selling it for cheaper, but I'm an online student, so I haven't seen what the store itself offers. Maybe they have an online store to, I don't know.


Moot point...
By jonmcc33 on 9/18/2009 1:50:25 PM , Rating: 2
Most people do not upgrade on their own. Not to mention upgrading an OS is mostly discouraged as you inherit any of the problems you might have had with the previous OS.

So even for a full price license you are still looking at a cheaper PC with Windows 7 as compared against a Mac with OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard.




RE: Moot point...
By dark matter on 9/18/2009 2:27:57 PM , Rating: 2
Well you can't upgrade from XP. So it would have to be a clean install.

I don't know how you come to assume that a windows 7 machine is always going to be cheaper than a Mac with OSX. I can certainly build an expense machine from components.

Or maybe you are saying I would pay substantially more for those exact components merely because they have an Apple sticker on the front. Aaah, now I understand your post. Well done sir.


RE: Moot point...
By jonmcc33 on 9/20/2009 12:24:42 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Well you can't upgrade from XP. So it would have to be a clean install.


You can't upgrade from Windows 2000 to Windows Vista. Why would you go back 2 generations and try to upgrade? Can a Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger with a PowerPC CPU be upgraded to OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard? Didn't think so.

Windows 7 is and always has been an upgrade from Windows Vista.

quote:
I don't know how you come to assume that a windows 7 machine is always going to be cheaper than a Mac with OSX. I can certainly build an expense machine from components.


It's not an assumption. It's a fact. For the same components (CPU, RAM, HDD, video card) I can have a cheaper priced PC with Windows 7. If I want to go with the same price as a Mac then I can build a much better PC with Windows 7. I still can't believe their $2500 Mac Pro only comes with a single quad core CPU, 3GB RAM, 640GB HDD and a GeForce GT 120. For that same price I can have 2 Xeon quad cores, more than 2X the RAM, a 3TB in RAID 5 and a better video card.

Mac = waste of money.


By StevoLincolnite on 9/18/2009 10:54:14 AM , Rating: 5
quote:
The move seems a smart one, given that Apple does have Microsoft beat on standard prices, with a copy of Home Premium (upgrade) retailing for $120 and $200 for a Professional upgrade (versus $29 for Snow Leopard).


You can't argue about the standard pricing, but -me- personally?

Windows all the way, it's a much more flexible Operating system, as a Gamer and Programmer, Windows provides me with the optimal Operating system with maximum compatibility and performance out of the box.

That to me is worth the Price Premium that Windows offers over the MacOS, plus splashing down 200 bucks on a piece of software that I will end up using 5+ hours a day for several years is worth it in my books.

That, and to use the MacOS without making a Hackintosh you need to buy a stupidly expensive system, which is VERY limited in it's upgrade potential. (I doubt you will be able to drop a Radeon 5870 X2 on release day and take advantage of it in Direct 3D games!)

Plus the aesthetics of the OS and the Apple Mac case looks like molasses to me, I would much rather a windowed PC case, decked out with UV gear, and Neons than glossy plastic.

What Apple needs to do, is open up it's Operating system so it's not limited to certain hardware, and then place itself in Microsoft's shoes and THEN discover how good Microsoft is at supporting the massive amounts of different hardware, software and driver combination's.




And for all other students?
By RjBass on 9/18/2009 2:13:35 PM , Rating: 2
I am wondering why they choose to only do this for collage students.

I teach in a K through 8 private school and technology is one of our biggest and most popular subjects. Our computer lab already has 6 computers custom built by the schools tech club and loaded with Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit. The other students in the school love the OS, and think it is better then any other OS they have tried to date.

This sort of deal would have worked wonderfully for all students from middle school and up as they are becoming more and more tech savvy.

While I tip my hat to Microsoft for the offer to collage students, I really think they could have taken it just a bit further and offered it to high school and middle school students as well, provided they could give proof that they are a student in school or a valid parent of a student in school.




RE: And for all other students?
By scooterlibby on 9/18/2009 10:30:30 PM , Rating: 2
Is it an indictment of our K-8 system that you twice spelled college students as "collage" students? Or is it just that I'm a dick? Probably both.


RE: And for all other students?
By RjBass on 9/19/2009 7:37:15 PM , Rating: 1
Prob a little of both, but mostly cuz your a dick.

I have never been good with spelling or the English language in general. My field is technology. And over the course of the past 15 years or so, I have been harassed for my lack of proper spelling skills by people like yourself who have nothing better to do then to correct other people on meaningless things that in the end will make no difference what so ever.

So if it really makes you feel good to point out the flaws in other people, then go ahead, but the rest of us will kindly move on with our lives. Thanks.


Slow Leopard
By rbfowler9lfc on 9/19/2009 11:05:11 AM , Rating: 2
Sorry, but that's what my brain reads right away everytime I catch my eye on that name. And now it's stuck in my mind...

"Slow Leopard"

Bad brain, bad!!




Very cool
By Josh7289 on 9/19/2009 2:29:11 PM , Rating: 2
This is very cool and I think I'll definitely tell people of this deal, but personally I've got MSDNAA access so I can get Windows 7 for free. :)




Where's Professional?
By Snow01 on 9/20/2009 12:58:45 PM , Rating: 2
I only see an option for Home Premium, and can't seem to be able to order Professional, as there's no option listed. I've been using the RC for a few months and it's great. I was holding off buying a copy hoping another deal would come along. You really can't argue with $30. Anyone else been able to order Professional and maybe tell me where it is?




By bravacentauri83 on 9/20/2009 11:15:09 PM , Rating: 2
I'd rather get the full version so I don't have to go through the hassles with my XP machine.




By monkeyman1140 on 9/21/2009 4:25:42 PM , Rating: 2
Buy your action figures ahead of time and you get an empty box!




Cool!
By BruceLeet on 9/22/2009 10:28:41 AM , Rating: 2
Students have to pay and I get a free upgrade from my OEM come October 22. I can wait for major bugs to be ironed out.

And Gee Whiz, I get back from tour in Afghanistan and people still pick on Mick? LOL




By lorddrace666 on 9/29/2009 2:41:47 PM , Rating: 2
the MS deal for college students of windows 7 is the upg version and it also a download....




Not logical
By blwest on 9/19/2009 11:56:51 AM , Rating: 1
How is MS sticking it to Apple?

Facts:
*Apple sells an OS upgrade for $30 to ANYONE
*MS sells an OS upgrade for $30 to ONLY STUDENTS?

Again, How is MS sticking it to apple?

Win 7 Prof Full $299
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8...

Mac OS Box Set $169 (Includes iWork and iLife)
http://www.amazon.com/Mac-Box-2013-Snow-Leopard/dp...

Presently, it appears apple is selling the FULL VERSION of Snow Leopard for $30, not just the upgrade.

Just laying out the facts for the uninformed to make a rational observation.




college kids
By Screwballl on 9/18/09, Rating: -1
RE: college kids
By Regected on 9/18/2009 11:06:57 AM , Rating: 2
Last time I checked, this covered community colleges and universities, but not tech schools.


RE: college kids
By omnicronx on 9/18/2009 11:17:04 AM , Rating: 3
Its pretty broad, considering most big universities and such would already be covered with MSDNAA. So I would try submitting your school email on the site to see if it works. Apparently this was done to reach those that do not have this kind of access. (although to be fair most people don't even know they do)


RE: college kids
By omnicronx on 9/18/2009 11:35:20 AM , Rating: 2
Ya funny thing, I don't even have full MSDNAA and I already have access to Windows 7 RTM with unique keys for both x64 and x86 (since I'm canadian I actualy get the french language too, so total of 4 keys). I haven't even been to school in 3 years haha. Good thing I checked, I almost paid the 30 bucks ;)


RE: college kids
By AnnihilatorX on 9/18/2009 12:53:40 PM , Rating: 2
My university is certainly big but it doesn't have MSDNAA subscription, what a shame.


RE: college kids
By Jeff7181 on 9/18/2009 2:03:41 PM , Rating: 2
Depends on the school... you'll have to check the list. I was able to buy a license with my tech school email address.


RE: college kids
By astrodemoniac on 9/18/2009 11:23:44 AM , Rating: 2
If I am not mistaken, you can only buy 1 license. At least that's how it was last year with the "Ultimate Steal".

...Anyway, this will be very welcome on my side :)


RE: college kids
By flurazepam on 9/18/2009 1:19:17 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Buy 10 licenses, get friends to buy 10 licenses, turn around and sell the unused licenses for $100 each and make a nice profit and money to be wasted on parties or a new computer to use Windows 7 on...


Wrong! Read the license agreement on the Microsoft website. Here's part of the agreement.

Program Description: Eligible students are allowed to purchase one license of the product below:
1. Microsoft® Windows 7 Home Premium
OR
2. Microsoft® Windows 7 Professional
Purchase Limitations: Eligible students may purchase no more than one license of Microsoft® Windows 7 per valid e-mail address or billing address .


It doesn't matter how many email aliases you have, you're still going to have the same name.

Link to the official Microsoft license agreement.
http://drh.img.digitalriver.com/store/mswpus/Conte...

PS - I think this is an awesome deal from Microsoft and will get a copy myself.


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