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Microsoft officially launches its 64GB, LTE Surface 2

We reported last week that Microsoft had plans to introduce an LTE version of its underdog Surface 2 tablet. Today, Microsoft confirmed those plans, and officially announced the 64GB tablet that is currently tied to AT&T’s LTE network.
 
According to Panos Panay, Corporate VP for Microsoft Surface, LTE connectivity has been a much-requested addition to the Surface 2. “Many of you have told me that you’d like the capability to be online, even when Wi-Fi isn’t available, so you can work, play, share, and communicate wherever you are,” said Panos in a blog post.
 
“In simple terms, we are CONTINUOUSLY being asked for a Surface that allows you to use mobile broadband.”

 
As previously reported, the LTE version of the Surface 2 commands a $130 price premium over its W-Fi-only sibling, making for a price tag of $679.
 
Microsoft says that its latest tablet will be available starting March 18 from Best Buy/BestBuy.com and Microsoft Retail Stores/MicrosoftStore.com.

Source: Microsoft



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130$ premium?
By Manch on 3/17/2014 12:07:23 PM , Rating: 2
Whats wrong with just tethering a regular RT to your phone?

Never mind, I answered my own question....RT

I have a Surface Pro and a Dell Venue 8 Pro. Both have their uses and both run full on Windows. I just dont see the point in RT especially with all the bay trail tablets out now.




RE: 130$ premium?
By Mitch101 on 3/17/2014 12:33:31 PM , Rating: 3
I don't have much faith in RT's lifespan because Im under the impression that Microsoft will port the Windows Phone OS over to replace Windows RT when version 9 becomes available. If true then I might be interested if the price is right but I suspect we might see BayTrail/Pro tablets finally threaten the low end before RT/9 could possibly gain traction.

Microsoft needs to come clean with their road-map for RT and whats required for Windows 9 Mobile OS.


RE: 130$ premium?
By Manch on 3/17/2014 1:06:08 PM , Rating: 2
I picked up my dell V8 Pro for $200 and the Surface Pro (First Gen) for $500 on sale. I think you can get them for 600$ even now which is still a better deal than a 650$ RT tablet. I use the Pro as an ultra-lite with minor tablet use. The dell I use primarily as a tablet and @ $200 its much cheaper/better than RT. Even if you dont use the desktop or traditional applications on it.

The combination of baytrail and lackluster sales driving down the price of 8 has all but killed the RT market.


RE: 130$ premium?
By NellyFromMA on 3/17/2014 4:40:33 PM , Rating: 2
Battery life on ARM and x86 variants of Surface hasn't had the displeasure of reflecting an LTE connection thus far.

As such, yes, MS has gotten battery life numbers on Surface 2 and Pro 2 to good ranges, but I am somewhat pessimistic as to what those numbers will look like when feeding power to a dedicated LTE modem and its usage starts being put in par with phone and tablets also doing the same.

I think ARM is going to continue to thrive exactly where it has: the low-power realm.

ARM has enough entrenchment in markets begging for power-efficiency where if Intel cannot reduce the gap in this unit of measure by several magnitudes even still, the RT version of Windows continues to have a purpose form the company's perspective. It already has the RT OS, I'd be surprised to see it altogether discontinued as of Win9. Maybe afterwards if ARM power efficiency gains dip AND Intel keeps winning gains.

I do think the WP OS is going to be folded into the Surface / WinRT tablet OS though. My last understanding was that these two OSes continue to be distinct implementations as of the latest released versions of the respective platforms. Having both is just... unnecessary...


RE: 130$ premium?
By SpartanJet on 3/17/2014 12:38:28 PM , Rating: 2
I own a Venue Pro 11 and I hardly find myself using the desktop (other than Office) in day to day work. These bay trail tablets are fantastic but for true tablet use the modern UI is much more convenient. Those same modern UI apps that run on our bay trail with full Windows 8.1 also run on RT which is why I can still see a future for RT (not at its current price range though).

The app situation imho is even better than those toy OS's because it hasn't been infested with micro transactions. I hardly notice any missing apps but if there happens to be one you can bet there is usually a website that will work as it should which isn't the case with ios or ad-droid.

The RT tabs just need to hit the $150-250 range and have the bay trail with at least 4gb+128gb storage hit the $400-600 range.


RE: 130$ premium?
By Manch on 3/17/2014 1:15:04 PM , Rating: 2
I rarely use the desktop on my V8 Pro either. Only a couple car applications I use for data-logging require the desktop. If I do need the desktop, I use the mirracast. I havent had issues like so many people say they do. Lucky on that front I guess.

The thing is Baytrail has crushed tablet prices. $200 for full Windows or pay more for RT? umm Ill go with full.

What you said about the browser is one of the few bennies of RT. Like it's desktop brethren pages load normal unlike android. Still that wont save RT.

Either RT or WP9 are going to push the other out. I think RT will go away and WP9 will take over.


sigh...
By domboy on 3/17/2014 1:24:34 PM , Rating: 2
... And still missing is what people actually are asking for... VPN access! Great, now we have an RT tablet with broadband access so we can work anywhere... but still can't actually VPN to our work network to work! How about freeing the required (and already present) APIs so vendors can recompile their VPN clients for RT? That's something that would actually be useful.




RE: sigh...
By Manch on 3/17/2014 2:03:25 PM , Rating: 2
goto search. type VPN

What do you use for your VPN access at your work?


RE: sigh...
By domboy on 3/17/2014 4:09:50 PM , Rating: 2
Cisco AnyConnect (for example) client cannot and will not be available on Windows RT as long as Microsoft refuses to allow third-party developer access to APIs other than the WinRT API, at least in its current state.

Yes I know there is a built-in Microsoft VPN client, but that doesn't work with many VPNs, especially SSL type VPNs. It also is missing features that IPSec VPNs need...

My statement still stands. Go search the Microsoft Community forms for Windows RT and VPN and you will find several long threads with many people pleading for this... but all this has fallen on deaf ears... but supposedly people have been loudly requesting an LTE version of the Surface?


RE: sigh...
By NellyFromMA on 3/17/2014 4:41:34 PM , Rating: 2
LOL what? I VPN to work from my Surface 2 all the time. It's built in...


RE: sigh...
By domboy on 3/17/2014 5:04:22 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
LOL what? I VPN to work from my Surface 2 all the time. It's built in...


Then you are one of the fortunate ones... your place of employment uses a VPN that works with the built-in VPN client. See my above post. Many others aren't nearly so lucky...

Again my comment still stands. Since SSL VPN implementation isn't standard, there is no generic client that can work with them... correct me if I'm wrong.


RE: sigh...
By eek2121 on 3/18/2014 12:21:45 AM , Rating: 3
If VPN is hosted on a Cisco firewall, you aren't. Luckily most companies use Windows for VPN hosting. However quite a few do it through the Cisco.


Holy balls
By Motoman on 3/17/2014 12:39:17 PM , Rating: 1
This thing isn't worth half that price. Especially considering it's RT, and therefore isn't actually Windows.

If it was real Windows, it might be worth half that price. But when I can get quad-core Android 10.1" tablets for ~$150 you're going to have a real hard time convincing me why I'd pay $300 for a Windows tablet...let alone $679.




RE: Holy balls
By Manch on 3/17/2014 2:56:13 PM , Rating: 2
Do a search for either Lenovo miix 2 or Dell venue 8 pro android. Have the best of both worlds for $200


RE: Holy balls
By Motoman on 3/17/2014 4:48:44 PM , Rating: 2
Well...firstly the cheapest I see either is $250. Secondly, I can't really see the point in a 8" tablet. Especially if I wanted to run actual Windows programs like Word or Excel and do anything.


Who is dumb enough to pay $679???
By jnemesh on 3/17/2014 12:21:36 PM , Rating: 2
Almost $700 for an RT tablet??? Who is smoking what over in Redmond? And can I have some please?

Why not just buy a "Pro" for that kind of money and tether it to your phone? It may cost a couple hundred more for a pro, but at least there is software that is actually useful on it!




RE: Who is dumb enough to pay $679???
By Manch on 3/17/2014 1:16:48 PM , Rating: 2
Actually it's $80 cheaper for a Gen 1 Pro with 128GB
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/surface-pro-with-128gb...


Surface Pro is cheaper...
By tayb on 3/17/2014 12:32:35 PM , Rating: 2
You can get a Surface Pro for $599 right now. If you wait for a sale you can get it for $499. I think the Surface 2 offers good value compared to an iPad but not at all when compared to the Surface Pro.




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