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RIP Family Pack discounts, we hardly knew thee...
Is company playing the Grinch or just sticking with the gameplan -- and is there still a chance the discounts could be reinstated?

Windows 7 is the hottest operating system of the holiday season.  It has seen significant traction, besting Windows Vista by as much as 234 percent in initial sales.  One key factor that contributed to this success was the plethora of deals offered.  From Windows parties (which gave you a free copy of Windows 7 Ultimate edition) to the pre-order program, there were plenty of ways to get a free copy of Windows 7, or at least one at a bargain.

However, one of those bargains has just now unexpectedly terminated, just as the holiday shopping season was picking up.  In the U.S., the "Family Pack" -- a special bundle deal that offers three Windows 7 Home Premium upgrade licenses for $149.99 -- is now listed as "sold out".

Many customers are confused as they expected the deal would last longer.  Microsoft did, however, initially indicate that the deal would only last for a limited time, "until supplies last".  Apparently in each country where the family pack was offered, Microsoft allotted a set number of units, and once that number was sold the deal was pulled.  Still, that hasn't stopped holiday shoppers from stating that the discontinuation is ruining their holiday shopping plans.

Other countries that have received or will be receiving the offer include "Austria, Canada, France, Germany, Ireland, Japan, Luxembourg, The Netherlands, Sweden, Switzerland, and the UK."  Australia also is receiving the Family Pack, which has only now begun shipping, a month and a half after sales started in the U.S. and elsewhere.

The discontinuation is triggering an influx in sales of priced up backstocked or imported packs (from countries where there's still availability).  While legitimate retailers like Amazon.com, Buy.com, and Newegg.com aren't having a part in such nonsense, on smaller sites, packs are being offered from between $250 to $290 with shipping to the U.S.  That's still a good deal, considering three normal upgrade licenses of Home Premium will cost approximately $360.

Competitor Apple has traditionally offered permanent bundled license discounts on its operating systems, including its new OS Snow Leopard.  Of course, Apple updates on a shorter cycle, meaning that you'll by more OS upgrades over a five year period, and its operating systems lack certain features, such as the ability to play most modern video games.  Microsoft had raised some people's hopes of a permanent bundle discount, though, when Windows 7 team members said that they would consider making the deal permanent based on feedback and response to the temporary offer.

It's still possible that the deal could be reinstated at some point.  The Windows 7 team has not commented on the discontinuation on their blog yet, but they've always urged users to voice their mind, so feel free to leave a comment for them here if you have an opinion.

Students can still pick up a single, much cheaper license of Windows 7 Home Premium or Professional for only $29.99 via win741.com.



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got mine...
By ratbert1 on 12/7/2009 9:29:23 AM , Rating: 2
at Costco for $124 last month.




RE: got mine...
By BruceLeet on 12/7/2009 9:39:40 AM , Rating: 1
Got my Home Premium x64 for free (^^,)


RE: got mine...
By Hieyeck on 12/7/09, Rating: 0
RE: got mine...
By sebmel on 12/7/09, Rating: 0
RE: got mine...
By ratbert1 on 12/7/2009 11:26:31 AM , Rating: 5
yea, you had to have 10.5 already to do that. Funny, I never paid for a service pack upgrade.


RE: got mine...
By Souka on 12/7/2009 12:10:07 PM , Rating: 1
+1 for you.... same here, I didn't pay for a .x upgrade either. :)


RE: got mine...
By theapparition on 12/7/2009 12:29:33 PM , Rating: 4
Funny, because Win 7 is exactly that, Windows version 6.1. Vista was version 6.0.

However, there is signifigantly more value in Vista->Windows 7 than there is in Leopard->Snow Leopard.


RE: got mine...
By Mr Perfect on 12/7/2009 12:45:06 PM , Rating: 3
And XP was 5.1 to 2000's 5.0. I don't think I'd call either of them service packs though.


RE: got mine...
By theapparition on 12/7/09, Rating: 0
RE: got mine...
By Proxes on 12/7/2009 5:36:56 PM , Rating: 5
Microsoft kept the version number 6.x for compatiblity between Windows 7 and applications specifically written for Vista.

Some apps look for the Windows version directly and if they saw version 7.0 they would refuse to run.

It's Microsoft trying to keep the transition to Windows 7 as easy as possible.


RE: got mine...
By fangwoo on 12/7/2009 7:50:40 PM , Rating: 2
bingo.


RE: got mine...
By teldar on 12/7/2009 5:50:48 PM , Rating: 3

Windows 7 was what Vista grew out of. As in Windows 7 was under construction before Vista was ever thought of.
Vista should have theoretically been more like 5.99 and win7 should have been 6.0.

I'm not going to rehash it as it's been rehashed enough on here that Vista was not originally supposed to be a product. It was a stop gap measure much like Me. Which was even worse than Vista ever could have dreamed of being.


RE: got mine...
By Belard on 12/7/2009 5:59:54 PM , Rating: 1
Lets do a bit of math. But before that, Apple does do updates which *IS* part of their OS. Some of these apple updates are hunrdeds of megabytes.

So your "SP" angle doesn't apply. Apple does a revised version of the OS about once every 18 months (They are up to 10.6 in 10 years). These add features and new functions. SP1 are mostly just that... A big-o-box of bug-fixes. The functionality difference between XP-SP2 and SP3 is pretty much none. Same for vista SP1 / SP2.

MS is going to try and stick with a 3 year life cycle for their OS to prevent the stagnant issues with XP.

So... for $100~150 per "upgrade" disc every 3 years... you're paying $33~50 a year to use MS-OS. And these discs require you to go through hoops now. Want to upgrade an XP? What if after you upgrade - you lose your HD and don't have your old XP installer disc (most people dont - thank you OEMs). So many of us buy the $150~300 retail version or the OEM versions.... which means still... $33~100 a year.

Apple OS upgrade doesn't have the odd-ball "must have this or that" BS is $30 (used to be $100) for a single computer and $50 for 5 systems! WOW!

So...
MAC = 5 computers for 1~3 years = $3~10 a year.
WIN = x computers for 1~3 years = $33~100 a year.
(Since MS has no volume discount for home users - it doesn't matter).

After 10 years
MAC OS upgrades for a family of 3 = $300
WIN OS upgrades for a family of 3 = $900

And while some people say "Thats just their OS - which comes with their computer" - keep this in mind.

Apple sells FAMILY paks for almost all of their software!
Even bundles. OS+Office+Multimedia.

MS, one of the most profitable companies in the USA - even in this economy - Rapes us again.

Screw you billo & monkey man!

PS: I have 3 PCs with Win7RC with plans on buying the 3 pak.

I will revert 2 back to XP. Not worth it to me to spend $330... vs $150.


RE: got mine...
By fangwoo on 12/7/2009 7:54:24 PM , Rating: 4
the problem with your argument is that you left out that osx is shitty. :)


RE: got mine...
By Belard on 12/8/2009 5:10:01 PM , Rating: 1
Er... That is based on what? Vista is a shitty OS too, but plenty of people will disagree on that one as well.

ALL operating systems have their issues.

But I do love this Mac love/hate video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHeN4kzi_Ts


RE: got mine...
By EasyC on 12/8/2009 12:12:10 PM , Rating: 2
You also forgot to mention that I can install windows on my netbook, my htpc, my custom built regular computer, my carputer, hell even my old athlon xp 3200+ barton paperweight. So while the cost of the os is more... I don't have to buy specific hardware.

Oh and I can do alot more with windows than OSX...things like play games, etc.


RE: got mine...
By Belard on 12/8/2009 5:14:03 PM , Rating: 2
Really? So? $110~300 per computers... thats fine. Anyone can install Linux on 3, 5, 10, 50 computers for $0. Hell, even on an OLD Pentium III 800mhz!

And the way things are going... how many games is that?
Look at Microsoft's game website, wow - soo many titles that ARE NOT for PC!

Halo 3 (sorry)
Gears of War 2 (poor baby)
Crimson Skies 2 (not an AA title, still no cigar for us)

So if Windows only function is a support systems for MS-Office, then the need for Windows goes down for home users.


RE: got mine...
By Alexstarfire on 12/8/2009 1:47:40 PM , Rating: 2
Ignorance is bliss, isn't it?


RE: got mine...
By kamel5547 on 12/7/2009 11:59:00 AM , Rating: 2
So how many updates in the past 5 years? I'll wager the cost is the same or greater if you do all the updates compared to the MS side. Price wise the comparison is skewed if you only look at one update ;) Typical price in the past was $130 per upgrade comparable to Windows, with a shorter release cycle. If you look at the feature list there may be a reason 10.6 was $29.

1. The fact you don't input a serial number doesn't mean there isn't one ;)
2. Yup, of course I hardly see an actual benefit to this unless you are a pirate.
3. Eh? Not sure where you are going with this one
4. Same with all copies of windows upgrade or not....


RE: got mine...
By damianrobertjones on 12/7/2009 12:03:51 PM , Rating: 2
Does everyone get the same $29 price or is that different for other people with different specs/releases?

I already know the answer.


RE: got mine...
By KCjoker on 12/7/2009 8:13:09 PM , Rating: 2
Win7 Professional for $30...student discount FTW.


RE: got mine...
By totallycool on 12/8/2009 3:47:33 PM , Rating: 2
W7 Ultimate for free - Microsoft Effeciency Persentations FTW..

So did I win the InterWebs?


I Solved those price problems.
By greylica on 12/7/2009 9:55:48 AM , Rating: 1
Already using Ubuntu ...
Okay out of the Box, some problems with audio (manufacturers remarketed audio chips to blame), but already solved.




RE: I Solved those price problems.
By damianrobertjones on 12/7/2009 12:06:29 PM , Rating: 5
Cool. Good for you as you're ever so very clever.

Could you talk my Father through the install...


RE: I Solved those price problems.
By bupkus on 12/7/2009 3:53:15 PM , Rating: 2
I have 2 desktop pcs under my computer desk.
One has Win7 Pro, the other has Ubuntu (an older pc) both are still dual cores.
The one with ubuntu was amazingly simple and easy to install. It was installed from a cd so the unit wouldn't have even needed a DVD drive. I have a networked Brother HL-2170W laser printer that Ubuntu found and installed the drivers for, easier than with Windows 7 which required a download.
Ubuntu allowed/offered the install of drivers for my discrete nVidia 8800 GT GPU which works just fine although admittedly I haven't tried installing any games. You can download the educational package (Edubuntu) through the ubuntu menu system (easy) and you'll find all kinds of cool programs.
If you're still using Win7 RC and using the entire hdd in a single partition, Ubuntu will install itself after shortening the Win7 partition allowing a dual boot and once again it is easy as pie.
In my eye it's not an either/or but a fun opportunity to see some cool stuff. To quote General Motors ads from years past... "this isn't your father's Oldsmobile/Linux."
Try it and enjoy.
Disclaimer: Of the several times Ubuntu did shorten a Windows OS partition for me I think I recall one time it failed. Hmm.. can't recall for sure.


By Spivonious on 12/8/2009 11:04:52 AM , Rating: 2
I tried Ubuntu last Spring. Install was quick and easy. But it had no support for my sound card, my wireless card, or my printer.

The interface looked like a cheap copy of Windows 2000 (KDE).

It took over a minute to boot and almost a minute to shutdown(!).

Sorry Linux fans. It will never be mainstream.


That's too bad.
By wushuktl on 12/7/2009 10:38:55 AM , Rating: 2
There are a lot of homes out there with multiple computers. Microsoft would arguably benefit more to ensure that all computers in a house are upgraded to Windows 7 rather than just one by keeping this deal alive. But to offer it for a while and then take it away definitely doesn't win them any favors. Luckily I got mine before this was pulled.




RE: That's too bad.
By rvd2008 on 12/7/09, Rating: 0
RE: That's too bad.
By damianrobertjones on 12/7/2009 12:04:41 PM , Rating: 3
Why not switch now and save everyone from reading?


RE: That's too bad.
By Belard on 12/7/2009 6:04:05 PM , Rating: 4
Because this is a public forum for people to share their ideas and opinions.

This is HOW we know what people think. Rather than live in some fantasy world in which everyone thinks JUST like you... and nothing gets better.

In many countries (like middle eastern) where you're opinion doesn't count can get you killed... you have no progression of thought or improvement of life.


A little overblown, Jason?
By MrTeal on 12/7/2009 12:07:16 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
Still, that hasn't stopped holiday shoppers from stating that the discontinuation is ruining their holiday shopping plans.


Those shoppers whose plans are ruined need to step back and relax a little.




RE: A little overblown, Jason?
By InvertMe on 12/7/2009 12:41:14 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah I don't think anyones plans have been "ruined" by this. I mean seriously....


RE: A little overblown, Jason?
By NaughtyGeek on 12/7/2009 12:57:50 PM , Rating: 1
Actually, I have several customers who had intended to purchase this pack after receiving holiday bonuses. I wish I had known this was coming as I would have bought a few of them as I've just lost a substantial amount of post-holiday business due to this change.


Uh-oh
By Spivonious on 12/7/2009 9:45:46 AM , Rating: 4
I'm waiting for the complaints from customers buying the Austrian version of the Family Pack and wondering why everything is in German.




I still ...
By x26 on 12/7/2009 11:58:49 AM , Rating: 2
Well I run 2 Home pc's and 2 laptops. I won't spend more $$ to upgrade...




RE: I still ...
By Taft12 on 12/7/2009 1:25:30 PM , Rating: 2
You know, you are allowed to leave one of the 4 without Windows 7 installed....


Well MS - YOU SUCK!
By Belard on 12/7/09, Rating: 0
RE: Well MS - YOU SUCK!
By fangwoo on 12/7/2009 7:58:35 PM , Rating: 3
lol, raging. osx is still an assy OS.


RE: Well MS - YOU SUCK!
By Belard on 12/8/2009 5:15:27 PM , Rating: 1
Sassy?

That sounds odd.


Working as intended
By webstorm1 on 12/7/2009 9:43:27 AM , Rating: 2
I have little doubt they tried to get an influx of new users, then the deals will dry up for awhile. Probably the plan is to get good word of mouth from the early adopters then reap the reward of full price thereafter.




By barrychuck on 12/7/2009 10:13:52 AM , Rating: 2
please...
By Kyanzes on 12/8/2009 3:45:12 PM , Rating: 2
"Competitor Apple"

:))))




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