The news marked the cancellation of
the special Windows
7 E edition, which was to be released in Europe and ship without
Internet Explorer. Microsoft issued a blog/press release on the
the developments. Microsoft writes, "(W)e are
committed to making Windows 7 available in Europe at the same time it
is available to consumers worldwide on October 22."
meet that goal, and in light of the Commission’s pending legal
inquiry of our inclusion of IE in Windows, we decided last month that
we would ship a unique version of Windows 7 in Europe—which we
dubbed Windows 7 “E”—that would not include a Web browser.
Instead, we decided to offer IE separately and on an easy-to-install
basis to both computer manufacturers and users who wanted the
Instead, the European Union will now
get standard versions of Windows 7. The balloting screen will
be delivered over the internet, according to Microsoft's proposal,
and will only be available in Europe. Vista and Windows XP will
also get makeovers to feature the ballot. In order to make the
ballot, browsers must have sufficient marketshare -- currently this
means Mozilla's Firefox, Opera, Apple's Safari, and Google's
Microsoft acknowledges that the move may cause Internet
Explorer to significantly lose marketshare in Europe. States
Microsoft, "This consumer ballot screen may result in some users
switching from IE to other browsers. It is unlikely to lead to
any users switching to IE, since the screen will not be presented to
Windows users whose default is Firefox, Safari, Chrome, Opera or any
The company, however, was not without
complaints about the EU's decision to force balloting upon it.
It somewhat bitterly states, "As you might imagine, it was not
easy for Microsoft to accept the idea that we would essentially
promote directly competing software from within our flagship product,
Windows. Still, we believe that this approach is better for all
concerned, including computer manufacturers and browser vendors—and
most of all consumers—than an approach focused on removing Internet
Explorer from Windows."
Microsoft hopes the EU will
accept its proposal and not push for more
antitrust fines/charges. In the U.S. Windows 7 will still
come with IE 8 installed as the default browser. Microsoft has
not mentioned whether the removal of the Windows 7 E edition will
have any affect on its EU
quote: I just think its alittle nutty that they are sticking their nose so deep into someone else's product (windows/ie.ect..) who is NOT even trying to force people to use only their product (ie browser)?
quote: You have that opportunity/choice. My mum and dad without anyone helping them? The vast majority of the home PC buying public? Not so much.
quote: If everything is free, then what is the problem? Why do MS care?
quote: So when a system is compromised because they chose a browser other than IE do they expect Microsoft to provide support?
quote: I am so against this because you know the video players like real, quicktime, etc are going to want to be included next.
quote: .but at least then MS was forcing
quote: It is in everyone's best interests that someone is looking out for you so that your understandable ignorance (it's unreasonable to expect everyone to know everything about everything) of certain things is not exploited.
quote: And if you're going to make ridiculous analogies, then by all means, why not compare a software installation that is EXTREMELY user friendly, Firefox for example, with, I don't know, creating the perfect fuel formula for the next generation space shuttles?
quote: And if MS destroyed the browser competition, then how is it possible that Firefox is gaining ground at such a fast rate? How is it possible that there are over one BILLION Firefox downloads since 2004? How was it possible for all those people to install Firefox several times, without EC assistance?
quote: And how in the world is it possible for Apple to get away with selling OSX in the EU without EC barking at their door? Does Apple provide a browser ballot?
quote: Get off your soapbox and install Firefox, or wait for your IT guy to come and rip you off while installing it for you...
quote: In more recent news, Mercedes was fine 15 billion Euros’ last night because they have the Mercedes Benz emblem on their cars, and they refused to allow the consumer to choose between the MB, BMW and AUDI emblems on their cars...
quote: And now, Ollie Williams with the weather.
quote: PS. it's spelled surely.
quote: I was simply pointing out that some people have neither the knowledge, nor the inclination to learn everything, no matter how simple or hard you may find it. As such, bodies are set up to protect us all from exploitation in virtually every market. I didn't think I was being super cryptic.
quote: MS destroyed browser competition years ago, back in the late 90s/turn of the Willenium. It's only very recently that Fire Fox has (somewhat fortunately) gained a foot hold, in part due to actions taken by bodies like the EU.
quote: MS isn't suppressing anyone by being first, being free, and offering their own decent solutions out of the box
quote: Now you're just talking out of your butt. The EU had absolutely NOTHING to do with the Firefox's meteoric rise in marketshare. Nothing.
quote: And what are the inclusion rules? Can a browser I make be included on the ballot or is there some popularity prerequisite? Do I have to contribute to some EU political campaigns? Will MS be required to list browsers that are even WORSE than IE? How will these supposed idiot users know which one is best for them, or do you expect some imbecile politician to accurately recommend what's best for them even though (a) they don't even know the person and (b) they do not continuously research the field of choices? The EU's only concept of what the "best" are is what people in the market have already chosen without them.
quote: Go back to Cuba, Castro.
quote: Browsers are free products after all.
quote: In the majority of cases it will be a lot easier to setup windows than it was before...
quote: So... how does one deliver this ballot screen without having IE installed off-the-bat?
quote: Microsoft acknowledges that the move may cause Internet Explorer to significantly lose marketshare in Europe.