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Yahoo is looking pretty good these days in Microsoft's eyes, despite the pair's rough history

Microsoft chief operating officer Kevin Turner, in an interview with The Times, stated, "[Yahoo has] a new CEO, and she’s formulating her business plans.  We’ve certainly made her aware and the Yahoo! board aware that if they are ever interested in an opportunity to partner with them on search, we’d like to sit down and at least have the conversation. It has to make economic sense to both parties."

Such comments represent the clearest sign yet to date that Microsoft is finding a post-reorganization Yahoo -- or at least certain parts of it -- rather desirable. 

For those who haven't followed Microsoft and Yahoo's rocky past relations, it all started in January 2008.  Yahoo, in bad financial shape and losing search market share to rival Google, was looking for a way to regain a competitive footing.  Microsoft approach Yahoo with what seemed a generous merger proposal

However, former Yahoo CEO Jerry Yang refused the deal, demanding more money.  Microsoft caved offering more money -- $47.5B USD in stock and cash -- but Mr. Yang and Yahoo's board still weren't satisfied and demanded yet more money.  At that point, the fire in Microsoft's heart died and the pair parted ways in a not-so-friendly manner, with each accusing the other of ruining the possibility for a relationship.

Fast forward a year and Yahoo has ousted Yang and installed a new CEO, Carol Bartz -- an outsider who is massively revamping Yahoo's management ranks.  Microsoft and Yahoo are in no better shape in the search market, and now have been further battered by a bad economy.  So in these trying times, with the major obstacle to a relationship (Mr. Yang) removed, Microsoft appears to be once again considering making a pass at Yahoo.

The one big holdup preventing such an entanglement is Microsoft's own projects it has been working on while Yahoo was away.  Microsoft has been working hard try to improve its search offerings and rise to be more than a bit player in the market.  It has been privately testing a new search engine codenamed kumo.com which may replace LiveSearch.

Any offer to Yahoo or potential partnership would have to reconcile how to incorporate these additions to Microsoft's search platform into a combined strategy, and how to make the large expenditure Microsoft's own search projects not for naught.

On the other hand, the greatest factor increasing the likelihood of a new offer is simply numbers.  Google, by the latest estimates holds approximately 63 percent of the search market.  Yahoo is hanging on at 21 percent, and Microsoft is holding out at 8.5 percent.  Together they might be able to make a legitimate challenger to Google, but separate, in their current form they seem unlike to pose a serious threat to Google virtual search monopoly.  With trends leaning in Google's favor, a turnaround seems unlikely without a partnership.

Microsoft believes one possible alternative is to create an iPhone-like Microsoft branded phone, and use it as a platform for Microsoft products, including bundling in its search offerings.  However, according to Mr. Turner, it has no current plans to make such a move.  He states, "Sure, we think about it, and, sure, it’s on the table.  But that’s not our direction today. For now we’ll work with our partners. After all, we’re going to sell 22 million copies of Window’s Mobile this year."

So with no "game changer" in sight for Yahoo or Microsoft -- other than Microsoft's new engine or Yahoo's reorganization -- its last January all over again.  Both companies are struggling to define themselves in the search market.  And they're once again finding each other increasingly attractive.



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Why is Yahoo desireable?
By v3rt1g0 on 3/10/2009 2:34:09 PM , Rating: 2
I still think the whole situation was an elaborate ruse to help drive Yahoo into the ground. What does Yahoo offer that a similar amount of money injected into Microsoft search R&D wouldn't accomplish?

Yahoo is a has been in the search market.




RE: Why is Yahoo desireable?
By TomZ on 3/10/2009 2:43:14 PM , Rating: 2
It's about market share. By purchasing Yahoo, Microsoft goes from 8% share to nearly 30%, almost instantly, and with little risk. That's valuable.


RE: Why is Yahoo desireable?
By bjacobson on 3/10/2009 3:23:16 PM , Rating: 2
Why? It's just an epeen contest if you can't make any money with it.


RE: Why is Yahoo desireable?
By nycromes on 3/10/2009 4:07:36 PM , Rating: 3
Advertising makes money. Secondly, you can pump billions of dollars into R&D and not gain marketshare. You can't force people to come to use your services, they need to choose it.


RE: Why is Yahoo desireable?
By phxfreddy on 3/13/2009 9:04:35 PM , Rating: 2
The original comment here reminds me of a friend when we would do NurdWorks projects. No matter what was mention and no matter how complex his reply would be

"A nuclear reactor -- why we can build that!"

It was always a pain to convince that part of the team that simply buying a used gadget off of ebay would suffice. Its always easy to sit back and say this. It is quite another to have to WAIT for the fools to build the gadget with all the unexpected delays and endless travails because within each "think that we can build" there are nested lists of "other things we can build".

As an engineer let me tell you if you can buy it instead of engineer it ....BUY IT!

Engineers are expensive and time is a wasting!


RE: Why is Yahoo desireable?
By Spivonious on 3/10/2009 3:41:08 PM , Rating: 2
I agree, but last I checked, MS had about 0.8% share in the search market.


RE: Why is Yahoo desireable?
By JasonMick (blog) on 3/10/2009 4:41:06 PM , Rating: 2
You must not have checked recently :)

Microsoft has been holding steady at about 8 something percent for the last year and a half -- a bit player for sure, but a player nonetheless.

It is somewhat ironic, though that Microsoft's cash-for-search initiatives yielded little growth -- apparently even bribes can't convince users to switch search engines. Shows the value people place on a good search!


I'll tell you why its looking good to them...
By quiksilvr on 3/10/2009 2:32:29 PM , Rating: 3
Because now they can buy the company for less than 1/2 of what they were offering before.




By Motoman on 3/10/2009 8:51:05 PM , Rating: 1
Less than half? Probably less than a tenth.


Don't get picture
By androticus on 3/10/2009 10:42:46 PM , Rating: 2
I don't get the picture of the hot guy -- who is he and what is the connection to the article? (And to be clear, Bill Gates is NOT the "hot guy"!!!)




RE: Don't get picture
By Pandamonium on 3/11/2009 12:41:36 AM , Rating: 2
Your "hot guy" is (was?) a character on the fad TV show "The O.C.". That character and Mischa Barton's character (I think that's how it's spelled) had a teeter-totting relationship, much like the MSFT/YHOO one.


By rizki0309 on 3/10/2009 11:10:22 PM , Rating: 2
even at 30% market share with current algorithm.... They still far2 away from Google....

Why people like google, not because the brand... because we love their search result...




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