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Microsoft sees big sales for Vista although analysts aren't as optimistic

Microsoft is predicting that its Windows Vista operating system will mean big business when it is released early next year. The company expects that the adoption rate for the operating system in business environments will be double that of Windows XP after the one year mark. If numbers provided by IDC are any indication, that would mean that Microsoft is aiming for 20% penetration for Vista.

Despite Microsoft over enthusiasm for the release of Vista, analysts are less optimistic when it comes down to sales. ZDNET UK reports:

IDC expects a healthy adoption of Vista, Gillen said. "But we're not expecting it to be fundamentally different from previous releases of Windows," he said. IDC's projections suggest that 11 percent of business PCs that run Windows will be running Vista at the end of next year, Gillen said. Rival analyst company Gartner expects the installed base of Vista in large enterprises to be about 10 percent a year and a half after it ships. "We're not hearing companies say they're in a rush to get their users to Vista," said Gartner analyst Michael Silver.

The latest builds of Vista have gained quite a bit of praise from testers and the press. The operating system is feature complete and Microsoft is now working on polishing up the interface, ironing out the bugs and taking care of driver issues pointed out by testers.

Windows Vista will place a large emphasis on security seeing as how its predecessor was the victim of numerous attacks. Vista’s built-in security features which are there to protect the operating system have come under fire by a number of companies and organizations including Symantec. And as reported earlier today, Microsoft is also looking to bill Vista as a reputable gaming platform.



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Vision isn't reality
By AlexWade on 10/2/06, Rating: 0
RE: Vision isn't reality
By montgom on 10/2/2006 2:07:32 PM , Rating: 2
Everyone should have a dream, including MS about Vista. Some dreams may not come true.
Bob


RE: Vision isn't reality
By Murst on 10/2/2006 2:11:02 PM , Rating: 2
You really think people will "wait"? People will buy a new computer, and they will get the latest OS available. That will be Vista. The majority of the people out there could not point out the difference between 95, 98, ME, XP, Vista, nt, 2000, or 2003. Saying they'll "wait" for Vista is rather difficult to believe.


RE: Vision isn't reality
By Clauzii on 10/2/2006 4:12:10 PM , Rating: 3
Well, Win98se lives longer than even MS planned :)


RE: Vision isn't reality
By OrSin on 10/2/2006 4:24:54 PM , Rating: 1
Why do people always talk for from of people. I'm tester and althoguht Beta had it bugs it was beta. Right now I ahve 3 computers runing Vista RC1 and all perfectly stable. First thing you ahve to know is MS is nnot in charge of driver support. The hardware people are. So if you ahve something that dont work it your hardware vendor to blame not MS. Second I vista runing in an AMD 2500 with Nforce2 on board video and Audio (shuttle system) and it all working fine. Alittle slower then XP, but consider all the stuff running that xp don't have its fine.

And the big test is my GF is not computer savy at all she loves it. She have 5-7 gadgets running 2 spyware and 1 virus scanner on slow 5 year computer and no slow downs. And this is not even final release. One thing to know the gadgets are great for those people that uused to download weathbug and other crap. This gives them option to use let malware products that running more seemlessly. 3 weeks and my gf has not screwed the computer yet. Thats record in my book. Sorry but Vista is sweet.


RE: Vision isn't reality
By kextyn on 10/2/06, Rating: -1
RE: Vision isn't reality
By ZmaxDP on 10/2/2006 7:04:11 PM , Rating: 5
Despite what your english-centric life may have taught you, people from other countries have access to the internet (gasp) and to this site (double gasp)! It may get your panties in a wad when someone from another nation doesn't speak perfect english, especially when you visit said country, but then I'm sure you'll learn to deal with the idocy of others eventually.

Until then, console yourself with the fact that you have mastered one language fairly well while those fools in other places are trying to make due with two or even three. Seriously, the morons. Who needs to speak anything but english when it is truly the language of world domination. To heck with those nay-sayers that mention the vast majority of the population of the earth speaking other "languages." Who cares if english is only the main language of just a small percentage of the world's countries. It doesn't matter, english is THE language.

---satirical comments ending now---

Seriously, people post on these boards from all over the world. Many of them are learning english as they go, and should be applauded for the attempt even if they mess things up a bit. Be a pal and help them out rather than slamming them. Meanwhile all us mono-linguists should take a healthy dose of humility because we havnen't even bothered to try posting in a foreign language tech site.

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RE: Vision isn't reality
By Clauzii on 10/2/2006 7:22:41 PM , Rating: 2
This is to compensate for your postrating. The world needs more people like You :)


RE: Vision isn't reality
By ZmaxDP on 10/2/2006 8:14:15 PM , Rating: 3
Thanks!

(If it makes anyone feel better, I live in Texas, drive a pickup, own a home, only speak english, and have only gone outside the US a few times (maybe 5).)

(On the other hand, my wife is from Brasil, grew up in Spain, Mexico, Portugal, and New Jersey. She speaks 4 languages. So, it runs both ways at my house.)

A little tolerance goes a long way...


RE: Vision isn't reality
By oTAL (blog) on 10/4/2006 6:19:10 AM , Rating: 2
You get a +1 just cause you wife speaks Portuguese. ;)


RE: Vision isn't reality
By codeThug on 10/2/2006 10:50:16 PM , Rating: 2
Borat: Cultural Learnings of America for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan.

Opens November 3rd in the U.S.

Drop eight bux and get a clue...


Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.....
By edpsx on 10/2/06, Rating: 0
RE: Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.....
By FITCamaro on 10/2/06, Rating: 0
RE: Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.....
By Chernobyl68 on 10/2/06, Rating: 0
RE: Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.....
By retrospooty on 10/2/2006 3:32:10 PM , Rating: 3
Pick one that fits your system, its all cheap. Where have you been?

http://www.pricewatch.com/memory/


RE: Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.....
By QueBert on 10/2/2006 3:36:24 PM , Rating: 2
driver support is largely there? Depends on what hardware you run I suppose. Logitech is FAR off from releasing a Setipoint Vista driver, people claim you don't need drivers for that. My Logitech Bluetooth keyboard might work on one boot, not the next. Same with my smartphone when I try to sync it. I know Vista is RC1, but with my hardware driver support is about as poor as anything I've seen. Then we have Creative, I doubt I'll ever see a decent Vista driver for my Audigy card, oh well :)
I don't expect Logitech to have Vista drivers out by Vista's launch, and I don't expect Microsoft to have implimented ones that make my BT keyboard work right. So, I'll be staying away from Vista until this has changed, which I ain't holding my breath, as Logitech is slooooooow to release XP drivers.


RE: Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.....
By Flunk on 10/2/2006 4:08:21 PM , Rating: 2
I also have a Logitech Keyboard, but a wired one and it works perfectly with Vista even without setpoint. I think you might be having an isolated issue. I'm sure that you'll be fixed up by the time Vista launches. As for Creative, they have already released several beta drivers for the Audigy that work reasonably well. I'm prietty sure they are commited to creating new drivers for the Audigy because they still sell dirivatives that use the same drivers (Audigy LE, Audigy 2 ZS, Live! 24 bit)


RE: Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.....
By encryptkeeper on 10/2/2006 4:18:20 PM , Rating: 2
The biggest problem is that aside from a pretty interface, DirectX 10 support is really the only advantage for Vista. If you don't plan on using DX10, then don't trouble yourself with it, not even for a dual boot environment. Vista uses something called "Virtual PC" which supposedly eliminates the need for dual boot configurations.


RE: Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.....
By Xenoterranos on 10/2/2006 6:39:03 PM , Rating: 4
DX10 is the only feature?
Lets see.
UAC
IPv6 support
vastly imporved kernel-level security.
IE No longer integrated into the OS at KERNEL level.
no more GDI+ (whatever it's called)
better firewall
makes Norton/McAffe pissy :)

and thats just off the top of my head.


RE: Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.....
By hughlle on 10/2/2006 3:19:54 PM , Rating: 1
becaue i'm sure that they went to all this effort for a couple of sales. every item for sale was designed and sold because they thought there would be big sales numbers........


By theprodigalrebel on 10/3/2006 1:26:58 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Sure, people will buy windows vista, install it, and then reinstall XP shortly there after when they realize their hardware doesnt have drivers for it


The first few million people who will get Vista are:

1) Enthusiasts who know how to check the Hardware/Software Compatibility Wizard & Documentation on Microsoft.com (and also their hardware vendors' drivers page) before they plunk down $200 for a new OS (which has its own learning curve, surprises, hits and misses). These are the same people who will ask 50 other people on a forum before choosing between a Razer and Logitech mouse.
2) People who buy new OEM PCs with the Vista-Ready sticker: they should be good to go.
3) Corporations who have IT departments