quote: And it's still indisputable that there are tens of millions of people out there who have no access to broadband.
quote: Tens of millions of customers. Who simply CAN'T use the product you're offering, because of a very bad decision you made that locks them out while offering no one any benefit.
quote: 1. Physics dictates that it must have massive lag. Guess what? It has massive lag, and is all but useless for playing online games or streaming any content.
quote: 2. All satellite things have data caps
quote: So in the end, once you use up your 2-10Gb of data, you're done for the month.
quote: There categorically are tens of millions of Americans with no access to broadband internet.
quote: Do you seriously see things moving AWAY from the Internet because an increasingly smaller minority of the population chooses not to have it?
quote: Okay I don't think you get it. Just because the console might require a connection and a log-in initially, DOESN'T mean it will require good pings and lots of bandwidth. You're confusing "always on" with "always playing online".
quote: Sounded like FUD, so I Googled. There are tons of unlimited data options for satellite internet.
quote: And, again, if you're just playing single player games you will NOT be using much data! What about this aren't you understanding?
quote: Then they either need to move, get satellite, or just frankly screw off. Why should we have to suffer because of this? Internet isn't just going away.
quote: Look the writing is on the wall, as a society and technologically things are going to continue to move in this direction. Nothing is going to stop it or even slow it down. So what are you going to do?
quote: I'm just baffled at the argument you're trying to make here. What gives?
quote: “We apologize for the inappropriate comments made by an employee on Twitter yesterday. This person is not a spokesperson for Microsoft, and his personal views do not reflect the customer centric approach we take to our products or how we would communicate directly with our loyal consumers. We are very sorry if this offended anyone, however we have not made any announcements about our product roadmap, and have no further comment on this matter.”
quote: Wow you're dense.
quote: These people don't choose not to have broadband internet. They can't get it. And no, "move to the city" isn't a valid response.
quote: Patches for the console and games will take up massive amounts of your tiny data allotment
quote: You're wrong. There are ZERO options for unlimited satellite internet, unless you can prove me wrong by linking them here.
quote: What I'm not understanding is what you're f%cking problem is. If you're just playing single player games, for what POSSIBLE reason would one even *want* to have their console connected to the internet?
quote: THERE IS NOTHING BUT DOWNSIDE TO ALWAYS-ON. There is no upside. NONE. How is it that you are trying to find a way to defend such a categorically moronic idea?
quote: Fine since you've eliminated satellite as even being an option simply because of pure stubbornness, fine, they don't have a choice. Hold on while I play the worlds smallest violin for these people.
quote: Did you even look before you said this? http://www.broadbandblue.com/plan-pricing Even the cheapest plan is 40 gigs. Sure the unlimited one is expensive as hell, but oh well. You never said it had to be cheap, you simply said "available". Well this is available, and you know what, high latency broadband is better than none at all!
quote: What does that have to do with "always on" again? So you're saying you would, if you had the choice, simply not patch games or the console? Huh? Are you on Mars or something, NOBODY does that! Wtf? You sound more like a Luddite every post.
quote: What you aren't getting is that Internet access is now no different than electricity or running water. Its' a necessity. And if you don't have it, well, you need to do whatever it takes to get it. Or else guess what? You're getting left behind! Thems the facts, deal with it.
quote: What the...do you even USE a console?
quote: Friends lists
quote: instant messages
quote: bonus content
quote: I mean holy crap, I can take all day listing the benefits to being connected to the Internet, but apparently you're a cave man!!!
quote: I'm sure people said the same thing when Internet access evolved from dial-up modems to Ethernet NIC's that were "always on". Seriously...just wow, this discussion has severely lowered my opinion of you when it comes to technology.
quote: Now it's Doctor Phil time.
quote: How hard is it to see that it's not in Microsoft's best interests to force their console to be online all the time, when by necessity that cuts tens of millions of potential customers out of their available market?
quote: Let's what 6% of the population is.... 18 million potential customers.
quote: The problem with that is broadband is very well distributed in the US.
quote: Broadband adoption rates currently stand at 68.2%Rural communities have adoption rates of around 60%28% of all Americans do not use the Internet at allAround 10% of Americans lack access to even the most basic broadband
quote: The NTIA also announced new broadband adoption information Thursday. About 68.2 percent of U.S. residents subscribe to broadband now, compared to 63.5 percent a year ago
quote: It doesn't say that 68.2% of the 90% of Americans who have computers have broadband, as you've imagined. It says 68.2% of Americans have broadband...period. No ifs, ands, or buts.
quote: The actual fact is that probably around 15% of Americans
quote: Your first thing, from a study by "Leichtman Research Group" (whoever the f%ck they're supposed to be) is pretty obviously wildly off the mark...like in saying that only 2% of US households don't have access to broadband. That's so obviously wrong it isn't even funny. But that report says that 90% of people have broadband...
quote: Nevertheless, in the last three broadband progress reports, the Commission found that “advanced telecommunications capability” was not being deployed to all Americans in a reasonable and timely fashion.15 The Commission found that “advanced telecommunications capability” at a minimum must permit an end user to download content at speeds of at least 4 megabits per second (Mbps) and to upload content at speeds of at least 1 Mbps over the broadband provider’s network (4 Mbps/1 Mbps or benchmark).16 Most recently, in the 2012 Eighth Broadband Progress Report, the Commission found that despite the expansion of broadband, approximately 6 percent of Americans—nearly 19 million people—remain without fixed broadband service meeting the benchmark.17 The data also indicate that people living in rural and on Tribal lands are disproportionately lacking such access and that 80 percent of E-rate recipients say that their broadband connections do not fully meet their needs. Based on these and other results, we concluded that broadband was not being deployed to all Americans in a reasonable and timely fashion.18 The Commission also noted that consumers’ uses are changing and higher speeds and capacity are necessary to continue driving innovation.