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Windows Vista activation 'unlocked' with OEM BIOS hack

Tool released by TEAM PARADOX used to emulate OEM BIOS information

Windows Vista Ultimate as activated using OEM BIOS emulation method
Leaked OEM BIOS files lead to Windows Vista activation bypass

Microsoft last week confirmed the existence and effectiveness of a method to bypass Windows Vista activation. Microsoft senior product manager Alex Kochis posted on the MSDN Windows Genuine Advantage blog details of Microsoft’s OEM BIOS-based activation system and how it can be used to illegally activate nearly any version of Windows Vista.

This form of product activation is also known as OEM Activation or just OA,” Kochis wrote. “Back at the launch of Windows XP when Microsoft introduced Windows Product Activation, we recognized that as easy as end-user activation is, it still represented an extra step.

“In an effort to reduce the impact of even that extra step but maintain the overall effectiveness of product activation, Microsoft worked with OEMs to develop an implementation that would work best for them and their customers while keeping the goals of product activation clearly in focus. As we looked to develop a solution, it was important to ensure that product activation technology could still deliver an acceptable degree of protection, while at the same time, reduce the need for an extra step by the end user.”

Large system builders who tend to ship large numbers of PCs with Windows preinstalled have the ability during their manufacturing processes to identify systems that will ship with Windows pre-installed. Sales numbers are reported to Microsoft, who partners with such OEMs to place a marker in the BIOS of the system’s motherboard to identify PCs that were to be pre-installed with licensed copies of Windows XP or Vista. Kochis said that the special BIOS marker enables a copy of Windows verify that it is properly licensed without the need for activation.

The most recent OEM BIOS hack in question applies to Windows Vista, where a hacker group known as “TEAM PARADOX” obtained the hardware-embedded BIOS information from OEMs Asus, Acer, HP and Lenovo to emulate on illegitimate systems for the purpose of activation.

According to the documentation released along with the hacking software tools by TEAM PARADOX, “the basic concept of the tool at hand is to present any given BIOS ACPI_SLIC information to Windows Vista's licensing mechanism by means of a device driver. In combination with a matching product key and OEM certificate this allows for rendering any system practically indistinguishable from a legit pre-activated system shipped by the respective OEM.”

The OEM BIOS hack, exposing the special BIOS from various OEMs is acknowledged by Microsoft. Kochis responds, “While this method is easier to implement for the end user, it's also easier to detect and respond to than a method that involves directly modifying the BIOS of the motherboard.”

Microsoft said that the same hack can also be carried out not only in software emulation, but also by modifying the hardware with reprogramming the BIOS. The latter method, however, is less of a concern to Microsoft, as the company deems that it “doesn't scale well to large numbers of systems, which makes it less of a threat.”

The Microsoft senior product manager said that the hack is nothing new. “Over the years we've seen examples of BIOS editors that, with some work, allowed people to make an edited BIOS appear to be an OEM BIOS. In Windows XP this kind of BIOS editing wasn't as difficult as it is in Windows Vista and frankly, because there were easier ways to pirate Windows XP, I don't think much attention was ever paid to it,” explained Kochis. “However, because Windows Vista can't be pirated as easily as Windows XP, it's possible that the increased pressure will result in more interest in efforts to hack the OEM Activation 2.0 implementation.”

Although Microsoft is well aware of the effectiveness of the OEM BIOS hack, the software giant does not appear to have plans of curbing this apparent exploit. “We focus on hacks that pose threats to our customers, partners and products,” Kochis wrote. “Our goal isn't to stop every 'mad scientist' that's on a mission to hack Windows. Our first goal is to disrupt the business model of organized counterfeiters and protect users from becoming unknowing victims.”

Another publicized hack to avoid Windows Vista activation is stopping the grace period countdown timer. Those who do not wish to introduce unknown files to their machines but still wish to stave off activation can do so with a simple command, which can extend the trial period to as much as a year.

In February, Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer said that piracy was to blame for the slow initial sales of the new operating system. Then in March, the software company announced that the sale of Windows Vista licenses more than doubled those of Windows XP during its first month of availability.

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Contradicting information?
By ProxyOne on 4/16/2007 9:07:42 AM , Rating: 2
The guy says

“While this method is easier to implement for the end user, it's also easier to detect and respond to than a method that involves directly modifying the BIOS of the motherboard.”

But the article says the hack is transparent and later goes on to say that Microsoft isn't looking to stop this???

RE: Contradicting information?
By aftlizard01 on 4/16/2007 9:26:57 AM , Rating: 2
What they forgot to say is they arent looking to stop this right now. Imagine in the future, like the XP Pro hacks, thousands if not millions of little pirates and other people wake up one fine morning, grab their coffee log onto Vista to read the latest at anandtech and you get a little message that says your VIsta is not Genuine and you will not be able to use anything except access the internet to make your Vista genuine. You attempt the activation work around and it doesnt work, so now you are left with a severely crippled OS. Many users will face the prospects of either having to purchase a legal copy's key or formatting the drive to install another OS while their precious game saves, movies and media files are stuck on the hard drive(assuming that the average user has no clue on how to recover that info). Microsoft can be very sneaky sometimes.

BTW: Please excuse any spelling and grammatical errors, my coffee hasnt kicked in yet, also I am using Vista(and love it) and it is a legal activated copy.

RE: Contradicting information?
By RODOX on 4/16/07, Rating: -1
RE: Contradicting information?
By BMFPitt on 4/16/2007 1:45:09 PM , Rating: 2
I was like to subscribe to your newsletter.

RE: Contradicting information?
By Oregonian2 on 4/16/2007 2:04:35 PM , Rating: 5
Without being so verbose, I'd agree. I wouldn't install a free copy of Vista Ultimate if given to me (my hardware is "qualified"). It has serious problems that I already know of (for my personal uses anyway). Friend of mine got a new machine with Vista installed. He gave up on getting his applications to work on it and took it back to have Vista removed and XP put in. He's much happier now.

In the future when an OS change is forced for some reason, it REALLY opens up the door for changing to some other company's OS. "Switching lanes" becomes much more practical when the compatibility reason for staying the course is broken.

RE: Contradicting information?
By thebrown13 on 4/16/07, Rating: 0
RE: Contradicting information?
By Aikouka on 4/17/2007 9:18:53 AM , Rating: 2
I think you may be warranted to mention what software he was having an issue getting to work, Oregonian. Because I've been running Vista since it came out and the only software that I've had a problem with was installing Acrobat (insert "You should've used some freeware app here") Reader. Although, I figured out why it wasn't installing and I worked around it. But I use a large amount of applications and haven't had an issue. The two types of applications that I've heard have had the most trouble are optical writing software (i.e. Nero) and Anti-Virus (i.e. Norton junk). I've installed AVG on my Vista machine but I haven't installed any optical burning software as I've had no need (most of my files exist on my server, so it has burning software).

But I'd love to know what made it so bad? I've had a fairly alright time with it so far and the only application that I've had crash was Windows Calendar and I forget what I did to make it crash... something fairly weird if I remember correctly.

RE: Contradicting information?
By irev210 on 4/16/2007 3:11:16 PM , Rating: 2
I dont see how microsofts DRM is much different in XP over VISTA in regards to protecting its IP from counterfeit copies, still a rather similar online-to-verify scheme.

What other DRM restrictions where there? There is nothing windows vista wont let you play because there is DRM.

At least they give you a choice. DRM is most known for the bluray/hddvd HDCP copyright protection scheme, and vista allows you to play both encrypted and decrypted files, whats the issue?

I think many people get confused what DRM even means. It just means "digital rights management" which is an umbrella term for copyright protection schemes, not specific to one thing. HDCP/fairplay/playsforsure/etc are all examples of DRM technology.

While I dont support DRM technologies, because most of them prohibit what I consider fair use. I think it is insane that I cant make backups of my own media. Anyone that has kids+dvd's knows that the shelf life around disney dvd's is very short.

Again, over time I think you will piss off enough customers that business will realize that DRM technology such as HDCP only inhibits market growth, adaptation, and ultimately profits.

RE: Contradicting information?
By aftlizard01 on 4/16/2007 4:09:27 PM , Rating: 2
I would like to know what you were doing that caused Vista's DRM to pee you off so much. I actually havent found anything that I have downloaded from bit-torrent or any other file sharing network to not work, the only thing that DRM has kicked in is video downloads from movielink, rentals BTW.

There is something more to the story you have told. I won't accuse you of anything though.

RE: Contradicting information?
By RODOX on 4/16/2007 9:19:31 PM , Rating: 1
Just trust me when I tell you if you have Vista installed and run a torrent or fileshare network and attempt a download that Vista thinks your not suppose to have (DRM License)it just aint gonna happen . . .

RE: Contradicting information?
By RODOX on 4/16/2007 9:35:23 PM , Rating: 2
Oh btw, even Bill Gates admitted that the drm in Vista is too frankin restrictive. And just for the record, i'm NOT a DRM hater. It just does not work on stopping ANYTHING and only makes it more difficult for people who DO pay for stuff, which makes a an incredibly dumb #*@ idea . . .

RE: Contradicting information?
By AaronAxvig on 4/17/2007 12:22:54 AM , Rating: 3
Out of the 5 posts of yours on this article so far, this is the closest to a REAL reason that you think Vista is so bad. Apparently you are trying to download a file that you don't own and that has DRM? I would be really surprised if Vista stopped you from doing that. Can you please explain in more detail? Are you trying to play the file, or just downloading it?

I understand that there could be some cases in which you own the DRM rights for the file on another computer and would like to play that file on your Vista machine, and it won't let you. In that case I doubt it would play on a different XP machine anyways. Such is the mess caused by DRM (yes, I think it is a bad idea, and would just as soon not have it).

I do however, respect some of the things that DRM gets me. Specifically, the ability to play my games on Steam from any computer that I am logged into. While it would be entirely possible for Valve & partners to just post DRM-free games online and ask people to only play them if they paid for them, we can both see where that would go. So I accept the system that they have in place, because it easily meets my needs (and their's too of course).

Regarding your point that Vista runs slower than XP: yes I would say it does, especially on systems without an Aero-class GPU. Such is the price of indexing, helpful thumbnails that show the document/picture, etc. Sure, some of these things are eye-candy, but some eye candy can be genuinely useful (and the slowdown caused by it on my computers is gladly traded for the increased functionality I see). Most people will gladly throw faster hardware at it, and you should encourage this, as it leads to the development of faster hardware for everyone. :)

But yes, please do share your DRM experience.

RE: Contradicting information?
By fastriser on 4/18/2007 3:09:50 PM , Rating: 2
I bought a 20 gig arcos jukebox mp3 player and it works like a champ. I just drag my songs to the mp3 player and they play fine. Later, I bought a 40 gig Toshiba gigabit mp3 player and it has some type of DRM issues. If you drag the songs, they will NOT play. You have to use their proprietary software or napster to get your songs on their. It encrypts the files, which adds overhead and takes up more space. I can not copy the songs, even if I own the CD, to another computer, etc. You have to delete the songs in a weird way too. Devices with DRM can be inconvenient and prevent 'legitimate users' from using what they bought

RE: Contradicting information?
By mindless1 on 4/19/2007 5:09:24 AM , Rating: 2
Uh, no. The nonsense about indexing and thumbnails is not the difference. Vista is slower than XP period, including most useful enhancements to it.

RE: Contradicting information?
By Lakku on 4/16/2007 7:21:16 PM , Rating: 2
So you can't pirate as easily, and you are crying like a big baby about it? I don't personally use it right now, as I am waiting on DX10 games and more polished drivers, but I did put it on an older computer I sold to my brother. It had a Athlon X2 3800+, 2 gigs, 7900gt, stripped raid array and installed in about 30 mins. It also ran perfectly fine for most applications, juding from my two days of use. It may be slower at times to some people I guess, but not having my whole desktop become unusable because Firefox or IE decided to lock up and remain overlayed on the screen was nice.

RE: Contradicting information?
By RODOX on 4/16/07, Rating: -1
RE: Contradicting information?
By Russell on 4/16/2007 10:06:34 PM , Rating: 2
What DRM restrictions? Besides activation, I haven't yet encountered a single one.

I think its more likely that you're either an idiot or you're just on the "talk shit about Vista even though you've never used it" bandwagon.

RE: Contradicting information?
By RODOX on 4/16/07, Rating: -1
RE: Contradicting information?
By Aikouka on 4/17/2007 9:23:28 AM , Rating: 2
I'm not sure exactly what you're complaining about here, RODOX. Like I mentioned in another comment, I've been using Vista for over 2 months now and I've had no issues like you've been spouting off. I'll admit to downloading quite a number of various things, yet I've had no issues with Vista telling me what I can and cannot download...

Is it slow? Yeah, it's slower than XP in Windows Classic mode. But that's like me expecting an older gutted-out (i.e. lighter) car to be just as heavy and responsive as a newer car with more gadgets that uses the same engine. I never liked Windows XP's Luna skin and I always turned it off; however, I like Windows Vista's Aero skin, so I leave it on. I don't expect everything to be "as fast" as when I ran Windows XP Professional.

Although, my comparison of stats are a bit different because I'm running a relatively new machine, so someone with an older machine may have more problems with the speed than me.

RE: Contradicting information?
By codeThug on 4/18/2007 9:35:24 PM , Rating: 2
I tend to agree. I'd also like to know who keeps mod'ing these Vista posts down. Microsoft spammers perhaps?

RODOX has very valid points that many people agree with. Past OS upgrades from MS have had their challenges, but were generally a solid step in the right direction from the start.

But with Vista.....

RE: Contradicting information?
By shawn85 on 4/16/07, Rating: -1
RE: Contradicting information?
By Moose1309 on 4/16/2007 7:31:20 PM , Rating: 4
I agree, windows vista is light-hearted, playful, self-assertive and vivacious. :/

RE: Contradicting information?
By goatfajitas on 4/21/2007 10:36:24 AM , Rating: 2
not unless they detect it is being used widely I'd guess.

64 bit
By blppt on 4/16/2007 8:16:53 AM , Rating: 1
Yet another thing that apparently does not work on 64 bit Vista. ;-)

RE: 64 bit
By Master Kenobi on 4/16/2007 9:16:11 AM , Rating: 2
64-bit vista is far more secure than 32-bit. Kind of nice to have that security.

RE: 64 bit
By Belard on 4/16/07, Rating: -1
RE: 64 bit
By thebrown13 on 4/16/2007 2:47:01 PM , Rating: 2
64 bit has Patchguard, which 32 does not. So, yes, it is more secure.

RE: 64 bit
By fastriser on 4/16/2007 12:53:44 PM , Rating: 2
I have heard that the 64-bit versions of Microsoft operating systems are more secure because Microsoft did not engineer them to be backward-compatible with all the Microsoft 32 bit OS (95B,98,ME,NT,2000,XP,2003) When they designed the 64 bit OS, they could pretty much start from scratch and lock the kernel down.
Is this true?

RE: 64 bit
By thebrown13 on 4/16/2007 2:54:15 PM , Rating: 2
No. But it does not have 16 bit compatability, as the 32 bit version does.

RE: 64 bit
By Moose1309 on 4/16/2007 7:37:31 PM , Rating: 2
In a sense it is true. Patchguard just means the kernel can't be modified with any user-mode processes. Which does tend to break a lot of old apps, especially drivers, A/V, and other programs which modify the kernel (which not all drivers or AV do).

So certain apps and drivers have to be rewritten from the ground up for the 64-bit version. OTOH it addresses one of the biggest complaints people have about MS products - security or lack thereof.

RE: 64 bit
By fastriser on 4/18/2007 3:02:12 PM , Rating: 2
Thank you for validating what I said.
Now obviously you can not install a 64 bit OS on a pentium
as you could not install NT or 98 (32) on a 16 bit cpu 286

can you install a 16 bit os like DOS or 95a on a 64 bit cpu?
I have heard different answers.

better yet, can you install the 32 bit version of exchange 2003 on a computer with a 64 bit cpu running a 64 bit OS (like 2003 server 64 bit or 2000 AS 64 bit limited edition)?

my colleague says there is no 64 bit ISA (firewall) which makes me wonder how you will install it if Microsoft is only going 64 bit on the server os from now on

By dagamer34 on 4/16/2007 11:03:59 AM , Rating: 2
In reality, Microsoft doesn't want to go after these hackers now, because if they get fed up with Vista, they will easily go back to XP. It is the people that hack Vista now that really want it the most. So Microsoft is going to wait until it is impossible to go back to XP (because it will be too old to use) before they invalidate their copies of Vista and force them to pay up.

Like Bill Gates said, they don't care about making them pay now, but making them pay in the future. That's why they'd rather have people pirate their software that switch to Linux or a Mac.

RE: Entrenchment
By threepac3 on 4/16/2007 12:36:42 PM , Rating: 2
How does that make sense? The longer Microsoft waits the more people knowingly or unknowingly use the hack. Its better for Microsoft if they cut any loses now before Vista because another XP.

RE: Entrenchment
By bpurkapi on 4/16/2007 4:31:44 PM , Rating: 2
The point is that Microsoft will have to work with the OEM's still using these bios and make new ones and offer a string of updates before they can really do anything to stop the hack. Microsoft knows its an issue, but they can't really do much about it, and therefore act as though they don't care. At the same time they are glad to have people going to great leaps to use their OS, it is a show of popularity and will hopefully lead to others buying the OS. Think of the article and the bios hack as viral marketing for Microsoft.

RE: Entrenchment
By xsilver on 4/17/2007 4:02:27 AM , Rating: 2
Also I think the reason why microsoft may not be so worried about this hack is that it still requires the end user to source out this hack, download it, run it etc.

whereas the main problem with pirated copies of xp was that the corporate edition floating around bypassed all security checks and an unsuspecting gimp could buy a pirated copy thinking it was a legit copy and not know it.
At least with vista, you cant buy a pirate copy and not jump through some hoops to get it working like the real thing.

RE: Entrenchment
By Fritzr on 4/18/2007 9:44:43 PM , Rating: 2
It's called bait :)

You get your victim using your proprietary product "free" or for very little cost, then when they're used to the way you do it, their data is in your proprietary format and their library of custom software is tied to your system you pull the rug out from under and suggest they buy the legal copy if they don't wish to flush their investment in your system down the toilet.

Bill G may say he dislikes DRM in general, but MS finds delayed enforcement of OS DRM quite profitable. Also by supporting audio/video DRM he is locking out any OS that doesn't pay to include the DRM license. Linux for example is GPL licensed so is very unlikely to ever offer AACS decoding legally ... of course MS will gladly play your DVDs for you until someone markets a commercial AACS compatible DVD player for Unix compatible systems :)

RE: Entrenchment
By jconan on 4/19/2007 1:32:38 AM , Rating: 2
* Direct OEM and retail Windows XP license availability ends January 31, 2008
* System Builder (i.e. smaller OEM) Windows XP license availability ends January 31, 2009

Piracy may actually benefit microsoft here
By Allen Iverson on 4/16/2007 9:38:05 AM , Rating: 2
Here me out.

1) all manufacturers, e.g. dell/hp/etc etc are throwing vista down our throats. we all know that microsoft makes its money out of oem sales and all the piracy is in the retail boxes of software.

2) computers aren't getting replaced as quick as before - after xp came out, there was real performance gains. but these days, processors are fast enough for most people. therefore, people won't be updating their machines as often as before.-->PROBLEM!! vista isn’t going to get adopted (i.e. % market share) as fast as it would be liked

3) There’s increasing competition from other OSes, i.e. apple (sorry linux is still a distant hope - as much as I hate to say it)

4) And what has history told us about success of an OS? windows didn’t succeed because it kept crashing, had viruses..It succeeded because of it being the dominant OS
therefore, higher adoption of vista is good.

5)people who would go and do all these hacks to make vista work aren’t the type of people who would pay for vista at all. simple economics..their willingness to pay is 0, and Microsoft’s cost per OS is zero (definitely 0 for pirated copies). therefore they don’t harm windows

6)BUT, pirates help increase adoption of vista. as by point (4), this is good!

therefore, piracy is helping microsoft!

RE: Piracy may actually benefit microsoft here
By BMFPitt on 4/16/2007 11:14:37 AM , Rating: 1
Microsoft makes just as much money off of a license for XP as they do for Vista. And it leaves open the chance to get paid twice when the user decides to upgrade. Whether you upgrade or not, they will only support XP for so long, and then you pretty much have to move up to Vista (or its successor) if you want security updates.

Piracy certainly helped Microsoft get into the dominant position they are currently in, but now that they're there they want to clamp down a bit. Though thankfully not to the extent that they horribly inconvenience their customers and cripple their product. (I'm looking at you, RIAA.)

RE: Piracy may actually benefit microsoft here
By Belard on 4/16/07, Rating: 0
By thebrown13 on 4/16/2007 2:45:58 PM , Rating: 3
You need that DRM to watch AACS encrypted discs, sherlock. If Microsoft removed that, there would be a whole new group of whiners.

RE: Piracy may actually benefit microsoft here
By Talcite on 4/16/2007 11:33:15 AM , Rating: 2
Your logic is almost as flawed as the "girls = evil" proof.

Piracy does NOT help a company. Just because the marginal cost of making another copy of Vista for MS is nearly zero, the R&D costs of developing it are NOT zero. Even if their market share rises to 100% using piracy, only 10% is legit, then they only recoup costs as if they had 10% market share. End result? No R&D money -> Vista's successor will suck even more.

What are the chances that a person with a pirated copy of vista will move to a legit copy in the future? Not very good.

This case is represented in the pharmaceutical industry as well.

Besides, I have no problem with people going Linux and Mac. I hate MS and Vista, but I still know that piracy isn't the right thing.

By just4U on 4/20/2007 2:45:11 AM , Rating: 2
We currently have two published ways of bypassing Vista activation confirmed by Microsoft. I dunno guys, I think Microsoft is doing all that on purpose. It sort of makes sense you know? They already have the early adopters .. and those who are buying oem's but how to snag a large portion of the rest of the computing world hmmm... Lets see, Here's another way that worked well for XP ...

It just makes sense is all. Since MS gets their money out of most end users eventually.

By Runiteshark on 4/16/2007 1:57:52 PM , Rating: 1
On the first topic of discussion, Paradox owns. I love them as much as I love PANTHEON...

Anyway, I don't see why Microsoft doesn't want people to pirate their OS. With Windows XP they didn't mind so much because it just meant a larger installed userbase for them, piracy is the best way to spread your nice shiny new OS, and rapidly get a larger userbase.

RE: Paradox
By bpurkapi on 4/16/2007 4:37:40 PM , Rating: 2
I agree, and when noobs get fed up from downloading fake or corrupted Vista torrents, they will go buy it. The main point is that pirating shows desire for a product, and therefore means that your product is the next "hot" thing. Microsoft stated that they only wanted to make pirating a little more difficult, and at the same time not lose their OEM circuit. When you realize that Microsoft is making a killing from each sale of Vista you will start to understand that pirates put very little dent in their business. The people who use the bios method are but a small segment of the market, and MS is more worried about vendors in China who pirate en masse and take away from the sales.

RE: Paradox
By herrdoktor330 on 4/16/2007 7:42:45 PM , Rating: 2
I'd be one to say that Microsoft wants to maximize their profits off the sales of this operating system. I'm sure their intended goal is to have 0% of the installed base of OSes be pirated. An unachieveable goal, since we're all reading the same article.

I look at it this way: I'd be more inclined to buy a copy of Windows Vista if they were charging a fair and reasonable amount for it. The "Basic" is as much money as a mid-range video card and doesn't even have the wiz-bang features we're all hoping for. And I don't believe that your Operating System should use more of your precious system resources. I put that power there to run my applications, not to make my computer work.

Personally, I've made the Linux switch at home and couldn't be happier. I'm using dated hardware that in my mind is still viable for tomorrow. I watch media on my TV using Linux. I surf the Internet safely and with no fear of spyware thanks to Linux. I can work with documents and spreadsheets at home with no problem. And... Linux doesn't cost $250 and still comes jam packed with features. Yes, Linux has a learning curve. But anything new to you is going to. It's just like the days I first played with Windows... but it's easier now because I have a point of reference. My only draw to Windows is the next gen PC games. But then again, it's amazing what you can do with Wine and Cedega these days. It's only a matter of time before there's DX9 simulation with DX10 to follow. And I still have lots of current gen games to play.

Once Microsoft can offer a better value for the price point, then I'll consider using their operating system. Until then... I'm with the Penguin.

RE: Paradox
By gramboh on 4/17/2007 2:21:45 AM , Rating: 2
FYI to the article author, 'Team Paradox' isn't a person it is a cracking group.

Thanks for the heads-up anandtech
By gersson on 4/16/2007 7:04:22 PM , Rating: 2
Works as advertised :-)

By ProxyOne on 4/17/2007 10:37:16 AM , Rating: 2
The Paradox one works? There's a better OEM activator out there. It has more features than the Paradox version. I'm not going to say what it is but you should be able to find it with relative ease.

RE: Thanks for the heads-up anandtech
By dm0r on 4/18/2007 12:22:39 AM , Rating: 2
lol !

By threepac3 on 4/16/2007 7:31:35 AM , Rating: 2
NOTE: There is one thing this article does not fully spell out. This hack gives VIsta the ability to be varied successfully by Microsoft Genuine Advantage. And all the updates and free software that comes with that.

RE: Hmm.
By Spivonious on 4/16/2007 9:26:42 AM , Rating: 1
verified - from the root ver: truth

varied - from the root var: change

RE: Hmm.
By bohhad on 4/16/2007 5:22:31 PM , Rating: 2
captain obvious to the rescue

XP 64bit
By Quiescent on 4/16/2007 9:33:30 AM , Rating: 2
Well, I can definitely say I don't plan on getting Vista anytime soon. I still love XP 64bit, and the fact it's built on Windows Server 2003. What more can one have? Who needs eye candy when you have WindowBlinds?

There are some great things Vista has, but I'm sticking with XP 64bit for quite awhile.

RE: XP 64bit
By thebrown13 on 4/16/07, Rating: -1
RE: XP 64bit
By KaiserCSS on 4/16/2007 10:49:58 AM , Rating: 4
Sorry, I just have to do it...


Vista has only two uses
By GlassHouse69 on 4/17/07, Rating: 0
RE: Vista has only two uses
By drwho9437 on 4/17/2007 1:43:44 PM , Rating: 2
It does some things better, such as finding networked devices and automagic installs of them. It certainly isn't worse in most respects. I remember people saying similar things about XP vs win2k. I continued to use win2k as I was no need to upgrade. Same thing is still true here, but XP was better than 2k and vista is better than XP in the grand scheme I think.

By allst1 on 4/23/2007 4:35:02 AM , Rating: 2
I'd go and buy a copy if someone here would clarify these for me!

Vista: No firewall Vista (firewall )(Upgraded Security *cough*)
Umm yea so there aren't any commercial firewalls available for this piece of eye candy as of yet, and it's touted as the most secure MS OS as of date. So does that mean if I turn my Internet on switch of my router plugin in my modem direct to my running vista OS that the inbuilt firewall will protect me from all sorts of intrusions?

So all those trojans and rootkits are ineffective on Vista?

What exactly did it do with 15+GB of my hard drive? I still have to download most of the functional drivers to get anything working from what I've gathered, and gee my desktop doesn't look like it's had 15GB of make over.

Does it make it more secure than my antivirus and firewall and antispyware currently protecting my XP box?? Or is this really a load of bull? What about it's Permissions and so forth how advanced is it's protection compared to XP at the end of the day.

If someone with indepth knowledge could answer this I'd get my self a copy of Vista, but as far as I can discern Vista is just a clickable annoying interface that asks you to confirm every action. Heck I get on that XP except its called a HIPS system, that remembers what you allowed on your pc..

SO is this really going to offer me enhanced protection with it's newer internal design from previous threats I faced on XP??

Meh They advertise this OS all so much but really ever go into any details of what the hell they've done to improve the OS for "advanced pc users" to make a reasonably thought out choice on upgrading to it.

So much advertising on a new OS with so little DETAILED insight for advanced users on what they've truly done to make me satisfied with my update.

So who has the techy details, yea you users... with insight that can give me reasons why this is worthy of my purchase??

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