quote: if Nintendo hadn't tried to pull a fast one on Sony
quote: the fastest hardware can be brought to its knees by a few lines of inefficient code.
quote: PS4 = Faster CPU + Faster and better equipped GPU
quote: I personally will never grant access of a high resolution camera in my home to a company I don't control.
quote: Nor will I submit to the unacceptable requirements Microsoft makes in it's EULA. Sony understands and for the most part respects the rights of the end user.
quote: Sony?! The same company that was installing rootkits on people's PCs? The same company that was suing P2P users? The same company that was the last and most resistant of the four major record labels to sell DRM-free music? What has MS done that is even remotely comparable to that?
quote: If you go to VGleaks, they had some internal docs from our competition. Sony was actually agreeing with us. They said that their system was balanced for 14 CUs.
quote: Why is it that every time I read about console gaming, it's just MSFT vs Sony? Nintendo is completely forgotten about
quote: Given that Sony does not appear to do this
quote: A lower resolution generally means that there can be more quality per pixel.
quote: (anybody remebmer the early XBox 360s & the red ring of death those had?)
quote: I.E. Max graphics with no compromises
quote: LOL... Okeedokee. You keep thinking that.
quote: Regardless, I think you are mistaken to think PS4 will always render natively in 1080p and still have all the bells and whistles
quote: I don't recall making any points about the PS4
quote: I don't think there is an objective, blanket answer to that question
quote: They aren't having trouble. You guys are baffled is all.See, they are offering developers the choice of 720P _internally_ scaled to 1080p, or 1080p. I don't care if you have Quad-Titans, you can apply more per-pixel processing to a 720p source than you can a 1080p.
quote: So the fact that they allow this does not mean it lacks the power to put out 1080p with "all the eye candy", whatever that means.
quote: The PS4 has a marginally higher theoretical performance, but in real life it's going to come down to the games and the developers as well as who can optimize better.
quote: If they're rendering in 720p then scaling to 1080p, it's a quality loss compared to doing both rendering and output in 1080p.
quote: There is nothing uncertain here; 1080p is superior to 720p in all ways...
quote: Text That's the choice MS gives to developpers and Sony doesn't.
quote: The Playstation 4 has the grunt to deliver the resolution AND the pixel quality. Which is why you don't see Sony constantly being apologists for their own device like Microsoft here.
quote: I'm saying you and Reclaimer are full of it for suggesting that you both somehow know the extent of both consoles before either are released or any games are even available.
quote: I'm not defending anything.
quote: The entire Internet knows the "extent" of these consoles at this point.
quote: Right, you just attack anyone who says the slightest thing unflattering about the Xbox. Even if it's 100% factual. Not a defense at all...
quote: The only people who can know this are, as I've stated, graphics devs who are currently working on a cross platform title.
quote: I'm simply stating that it's far better to allow the developers to have high quality shading at 720p @60hz than force everyone to hit 1080p and run at 30hz or worse.
quote: I think both consoles are relatively cheap and powerful. You just can't build a computer for $400-500 and get comparable specs.
quote: No, because exactly what you meant was $200 on a graphics card and $200 on a CPU equals a $400 console. Don't try to backpedal now.
quote: Microsoft's design uses 12 compute units (CUs) versus 18 CUs in the PS4 chip
quote: we found that going to 14 CUs wasn't as effective as the 6.6 per cent clock upgrade that we did.
quote: Why is choice suddenly a bad thing?
quote: I think anyone with a brain would choose higher resolution.
quote: All things being equal. There's no indication that the Xbox will have "higher quality" pixels than the PS4 either. To even suggest that would qualify someone for the looney bin.
quote: They are stating that given the hardware's power, you can either up the resolution and sacrifice pixel quality, or lower the resolution and gain higher quality shaders.
quote: The statement by Microsoft has nothing to do with PS4
quote: The XBO GPU is quote a bit slower than PS4 and the video RAM is ridiculously slow. They are spinning, plain and simple.
quote: You are more arguing over semantics and dancing around the point than you are making any valid points here.
quote: And to boot, he claims he's NOT trying to defend MS.
quote: huh?http://www.dailytech.com/CommentUser.aspx?user=935...What are you even talking about downrated?
quote: Instead of requiring developers to render at 1080p, they have relaxed requirements to allow the game devs to decide the pixel quality vs resolution they want.
quote: A lower resolution generally means that there can be more quality per pixel. With a high-quality scaler and antialiasing and render resolutions such as 720p or '900p'..."