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Microsoft says book scanning no longer fits with the company's search goals

Microsoft’s MSN search engine is lagging well behind category leaders Yahoo and Google. Microsoft has a long history of trying to copy what other search companies are doing to add to its own service.

Such was the case when Microsoft announced that it would begin offering a book and academic journal search service that would scan full text of books and publications in the public domain to a service MSN book search site. Microsoft opted to scan only books in the public domain, no doubt in part due the many law suits that a similar service from Google that scanned copyright protected works generated.

Microsoft announced that it is now stopping its book scanning and search operations.

Satya Nadella, senior vice president of Microsoft search and advertising wrote in a blog post, “Digitizing books and archiving academic journals no longer fits with the company's plan for its search operation.” Nadella said that Microsoft would focus on verticals with high commercial intent.

Microsoft came into the book scanning in 2005 when it contributed material to the Open Content Alliance, which interestingly is an industry group founded in part by Yahoo. Yahoo and Microsoft recently made headlines when the two companies had drawn out talks for Microsoft to acquire Yahoo ultimately leading to Microsoft walking away when Yahoo asked for more money.

Microsoft said at the time that it could get to where it needed to be in the search market alone, but buying Yahoo would get it there much faster. Some see Microsoft cutting its book search business as an indication of it getting into fighting shape to better take on Google and Yahoo in search.



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Death clock for Microsoft
By Lord 666 on 5/27/2008 1:20:26 PM , Rating: 2
Not to be one of those anti-MS fanatic, but I am the only one getting the feeling that Microsoft is slipping? My career was started with Microsoft products and owe them for beginning my livelyhood, but its hard to miss

1. WHS having the corruption issues
2. Vista debate
3. "Failed" Yahoo negotiations




RE: Death clock for Microsoft
By Lord 666 on 5/27/2008 1:22:28 PM , Rating: 2
4. Zune
5. Xbox 360 (RROD, BR Support)


RE: Death clock for Microsoft
By amanojaku on 5/27/2008 1:51:13 PM , Rating: 5
I'm no fan of MS, but MS "slipping" is debatable. For the record the first OS I used was Solaris, and UNIX/Linux/BSD in general is my preference, including the MacOS. If it weren't for games I probably wouldn't use Windows, but MS' products are nowhere near as bad as they used to be, either.

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1. WHS having the corruption issues

Now this is DEFINITELY a problem of QA, but MS is a large company. This problem is limited to one product, and a 1.0 product, at that. Don't be fooled by the 5.x version number; marketing strikes again.

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2. Vista debate

How quickly we forget how XP sucked at first release, along with 2000, NT, 98, and 95. Service packs and patches fixed the majority of our problems. And what OS or application doesn't have issues on first release? Gone are the days when a product worked perfectly until the next version provided new FEATURES and not BUG FIXES or PERFORMANCE ENHANCEMENTS.

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3. "Failed" Yahoo negotiations

Yahoo! f'ed this up, not MS. And it looks like that was a blessing in disguise for MS: a partnership is cheaper and will focus MS' attention on what it can use instead of trimming Yahoo!'s fat.

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4. Zune

It's hard to compete with an established player, but MS is doing a decent job of it. I believe the Zune is the #2 MP3/Video player after the iPod, beating out other companies that have been doing it longer, like Archos and Creative.

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5. Xbox 360 (RROD, BR Support)

Again, MS is a huge company and the Xbox is one product. I think it's disgusting the kind of failure rate the 360 has, but every company that manufactures products en masse suffers from manufacturing defects at one point or another. Think back on Maxtor and Western Digital in the 90's.

BTW, I work for a competitor of MS, and we aren't sleeping when it comes to designing and testing our products. MS might be a sleeping giant, but the damage it can do when it's awake is enormous. With MS there are just as many ups as there are downs. It's bank account shows there are more ups.


RE: Death clock for Microsoft
By chsh1ca on 5/27/2008 4:58:26 PM , Rating: 2
You can only say "it's limited to one product" so many times you know, eventually it isn't any longer limited to one product.

I see Microsoft's chief problem is that of diversity. Rather than focus on the couple of things they did really well (Consumer OSes, Office Suite, Developer Tools) they've become such a diverse company that they no longer do any one thing all that well, and the occasional time they do something well it's plagued with implementation problems (see XBox 360, Windows Vista) or is slow to market with great features plenty of competitors have (Visual Studio, IE, Zune).

They branched out too fast for their own good, and desperately need to refocus themselves on their core business, if they can even see what that is anymore.


RE: Death clock for Microsoft
By mindless1 on 5/27/2008 9:28:56 PM , Rating: 2
1. The problem is not limited to one product, the problem is the method and policy that allows things like this to happen, and that does effect most if not all products.

2. We don't quickly forget, we apparently remember better than you. Never has there been such a backlash towards the contemporary OS.

3. Yahoo didn't f-up anything, a company is not compelled to be bought. They felt their value was higher than the market reflects and without a crystal ball we will have to wait and see if they were right. The income potential from future web services is larger than the past income pool, there is no reason Yahoo can't make more money even with Google having taken a large share of their search business away.

4. Forget iPod, the neo-hippy market is saturated. Zune is behind Sansa the last I heard and it is likely to stay that way because Sandisk is pricing players at levels the public wants. It was the early adopters that paid the premium, too soon all the Chinese junk will have gotten good enough that they'll all be depreciated anyhow.

5. You write MS is a big company as if that's an argument against a failure, but it is the opposite in that they have so many more resources and clout to get things done right, and yet didn't. Overheating issues like that are such a basic basic fundamental design blunder that it's even strange that it happened in this day and age with a complete system versus modular componentry.

On the other hand, MS has done a lot of things right, obviously, but we aren't of the same consumer mindset as we used to be where introduction of some milestones seemed like boldly innovative neat toys. These days it's pretty much evolutionary refinements and these in ways not everyone likes.

Ultimately it was bound to happen, a company makes product refinements so it'll sell well, but eventually it becomes refined enough that people aren't left wanting anymore. Then there's entropy, the more complex the system the more likely to break down or the harder to fix it.

MS is slipping, in public perception at least. Their bank account is no indicator of anything except the lack of competition in this monopolized market. This is not written as some "I hate MS" sentiment, the market is better off with MS in it - their contribution to personal computing is monumental, but that market would be better off with some other competition too. Some people seem to object to this idea as if I'm wanting to take their windows away from them - not at all, you are entitled to buy and run whatever you like.


RE: Death clock for Microsoft
By Belard on 5/27/2008 3:57:47 PM , Rating: 1
6 - Games for Windows (lack of)
7 - illegal trade & business practices
8 - EULA - Creator of the legal mess of using software you paid for.
9 - Crazed Monkey Dance
10 - BOB

MS makes so much money off of Windows & Office, that they more than cover the losses in other divisions of Microsoft.


RE: Death clock for Microsoft
By jonp on 5/27/2008 4:51:52 PM , Rating: 1
11. anyone for Millenium Editon (Windos ME)?


RE: Death clock for Microsoft
By jonp on 5/27/2008 4:52:19 PM , Rating: 1
11. anyone for Millenium Edition (Windos ME)?


RE: Death clock for Microsoft
By greylica on 5/27/2008 1:37:27 PM , Rating: 1
slipping ?

It's sinking, very slowly but it's finnaly sinking...

:)


RE: Death clock for Microsoft
By ThePooBurner on 5/27/2008 2:22:33 PM , Rating: 3
It certainly appears that way. If they had bought yahoo they would have had to barrow money to do it for the first time in it's history. Since when does MS have to barrow money to do something it wants? I'm not an MS fan, but there really isn't anything else out there that grandma can use out of the box, you know? I have been meaning to make the switch to Linux, but having a thousand flavors to choose from makes it a bit of a daunting task. Especially when having to research which graphics system to go with. Gnome or KDE? Want to run something on your computer? Learn to recompile everything every time you change the hardware a little. Everyone points to Ubuntu, but needing to download daily updates? I hate having to update crap. Anyway i'm just ranting now. I don't like MS, but they do need to stay at least somewhat in the market and not sink totally.


RE: Death clock for Microsoft
By HeelyJoe on 5/27/2008 3:48:16 PM , Rating: 2
You do not have to recompile everything when you change hardware, and you do not have to download updates every day. You also don't need to research the desktop environment, since it comes pre-installed with Ubuntu.

And borrow is spelled borrow, not barrow.


RE: Death clock for Microsoft
By ThePooBurner on 5/28/2008 7:05:46 AM , Rating: 2
Actually, Ubuntu comes in both flavors so, yes, i would have to research the environment. And if linux was as plug and play friendly as windows is do you really think it wouldn't have taken over the entire desktop space yet? And i wouldn't know about the daily updates since i don't use it, but i was going off word of mouth. From people who do use it. On these boards.

Pointing out a phonetically similar word mis-use makes you a big man doesn't it? Watch out for the big-man! He is obviously better than us in every way.


RE: Death clock for Microsoft
By theapparition on 5/27/2008 3:58:31 PM , Rating: 5
Funny how a company with record profits and tons of cash reserves can be considerd "sinking".......

They've had thier mis-steps, as every company has. Tell me, were you one of the same that thought Intel was "sinking" too in the Prescott days? The talk back then was that AMD was so superior and Intel could never catch up to the Athlon's better architec.........whoa........what's that you say? Core? Oops.

MS is doing fine. Vista is a very good OS. I've had far fewer issues with Vista than I had with XP. You just have to upgrade your hardware.


RE: Death clock for Microsoft
By overzealot on 5/27/2008 11:04:40 PM , Rating: 1
Down, fanboi.


RE: Death clock for Microsoft
By BadAcid on 5/27/2008 4:26:32 PM , Rating: 3
Some day there will be 2 major OS's, and some games will only work on one or the other, like XBox vs. Sony exclusive titles. Then you'll be looking back and saying "I miss the monopoly."


RE: Death clock for Microsoft
By ioannis on 5/28/2008 4:43:19 AM , Rating: 1
the only reason things don't run across platforms is because of monopolistic strategies.

Adhere to standards and you'll never have such problems, no matter how many platforms are out there.


RE: Death clock for Microsoft
By jvillaro on 5/27/2008 3:42:54 PM , Rating: 2
I don't think your the only one. But I do think that, to think so is a little bit naive, and none of the points you mention are/could be the issues that bring MS down.
It does appear (or at least some try to make it appear) with all the bad press and bad mouthing MS is in a "Bad" time, but even so they've been reporting record earnings and such.


RE: Death clock for Microsoft
By rippleyaliens on 5/27/2008 4:32:01 PM , Rating: 4
/Yah right..
1. however much you hate Win-xp It works.
2. Vista- Absolutely rocks on a laptop- finally a Latop friendly OS
3. XBOX- hmm, they have outsold Sony... WII- Different type of gamer, yet XBOX is indeed making money
4. ZUNE- hmm, who cares
5. MSN- MEMBER for over 10 years now. still works
6. Yahoo- GLAD they didn't sell. that would have been bad.. nothing yahoo has is worth $39 a share. MS can actually mimick yahoo, for FREE!!!! they have the talent
7. OS Patches- glad MS is doing it, Linux which rocks, BUT!!!! i buy PC's for a-work, b-play c-avaliabliity....
Most hardcore computer guys, do the opensource BUT!!! i dont want to have to google everything on how to get sound/AND OR PLAY A GAME..
8. Powerusers, make up less than 5% of the world market.
9 -- lets not even mention Win2k/2k3/2k8 (MAKES IT folks, a TON of money!!!!!) Linux is cool, but other than a openoffice, and mozilla, what else does it offer..(yah yah yah, web servers, yah yah yah) I mean real world apps.. MAC's the same, fast, powerful, sweet, BUT no real world Applications. No corporate APPS.. which= lamborghini, in rush hour. Defeats the purpose of owning one, when trying to get to WORK!!
10. Most important.. MS is failing on attempts, that 95% of the companies are just tooooooo afraid to jump on.. What happens when MS gets upset, and spends 20Billion on its next project??? Very FEW companies, Google included can even think of such a task...


RE: Death clock for Microsoft
By jvillaro on 5/27/2008 5:12:59 PM , Rating: 2
MMM I was actually not in agree with the original post. And I sort of agree on your points (just not in a some what angry way you came across), just to lazy to right about them one by one...
And on #4... I have a zune and I love :)


RE: Death clock for Microsoft
By Rookierookie on 5/27/2008 5:36:37 PM , Rating: 3
I nominate the MSN Messenger for one MS product which is a total success, and not for want of competition.